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I found a german site that has the android M beta, i havent tested it, but someone should probably post guide and links for updating to the beta
in short there is also now a B508->B550->803 update. i think its the version from india, but according to my understanding of the german site from google translate, it seems to work in europe as well.
im gonna test it later on today and let you know how it goes. )(
erkkiboy83 said:
Hey all!
I found a german site that has the android M beta, i havent tested it, but someone should probably post guide and links for updating to the beta
in short there is also now a B508->B550->803 update. i think its the version from india, but according to my understanding of the german site from google translate, it seems to work in europe as well.
im gonna test it later on today and let you know how it goes. )(
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i can now confirm this is working on H60-L04, updated with unlocked bootloader but needed to go back to stock recovery for my B521 install.
i can't remember the policy on posting links here, so i will refrain from this until clarified.
the basic is as always: (usually a backup isnt required, but better safe than sorry)
1. back up your phone to computer(with hi-suite) or SD-card, or use titanium if rooted.
2.restore to stock recovery
3.install update.app(which in this package will downgrade to B507(previous beta)
4.then local restore the update.zip which will install the B803.
(5.) restore backup if needed
experience:
they have removed the option to downscale the screen which might impact battery life. (at least in 5.1.1 the difference between 1080p and 720p was as much as almost 30% or for me charging once a day to two times a day...im really the power user so if you usually have a battery the whole day or two days, then...well...). The battery drained pretty much like normal for me yesterday, but i didnt activate/open all of my 80+ installed apps. (about 20 of them i use on a daily basis, the rest about weekly use).
there is some errors entering recovery mode(when pressing the buttons for entering recovery during startup it tries to install some update, but is unsuccessful and reboots), but i will se if im able to flash CWM recovery later. any battery issues i experience now might be due to unwiped cache.
Android M in general doesnt appear to be a giant leap forward, but i clearly notice that some apps do run a lot better on android M. (especially the google apps and google fit but this is to be expected)
apparently it also appears on my device that some notifications and the "push" functionality they have tried to copy from ios doesnt work as smoothly as i had hoped, but again, this IS a beta, perhaps even an early one.
the only noticeable, or possibly a bigger bug, is a bit more laggy menus and slower animations in MIUI 4.0 compared to the MIUI 3.1 . it just doesnt feel "snappy" when browsing through menus like before.
let me know and i will put together a guide to install this beta! (if you dont know what a BETA version is, dont install it)
There's already a few topics about the testing versions in the General section.
The screen displays "No upgrade file!", but the file update.zip I put it in the folder "dload". How can I fix?
Lollo97 said:
The screen displays "No upgrade file!", but the file update.zip I put it in the folder "dload". How can I fix?
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Update.app should be put in dload folder
Hi! I am starting this discussion / poll in the hope that people will think twice before upgrading (unofficially) to Nougat. So far, what I see is 3 outcomes: 1) Device gets bricked 2) Unofficial Nougat has major bugs and people decide to downgrade back to Marshmallow 3) Upgrade is successful and user is pleased. I think that the latter scenario is actually quite rare and I feel for inexperienced people who brick their device. My question, before you try to upgrade unofficially: is it worth it?
People who brick their device doesn't follow the steps as there are written.
for example t hey flash the b370 version without the additional package and they reply 'bluetooth isnt working'
i encourage people upgrading to nougat because of the new ui, the better battery/ram management and the appearance of drawer
i rollbacked too many times to marshmallow, upgraded to nougat without any problem or brick, just follow the steps and the installation is successful.
StrangerWeather said:
Hi! I am starting this discussion / poll in the hope that people will think twice before upgrading (unofficially) to Nougat. So far, what I see is 3 outcomes: 1) Device gets bricked 2) Unofficial Nougat has major bugs and people decide to downgrade back to Marshmallow 3) Upgrade is successful and user is pleased. I think that the latter scenario is actually quite rare and I feel for inexperienced people who brick their device. My question, before you try to upgrade unofficially: is it worth it?
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I have two p9 lites,and they are both running on b370,updated trough hicare (1.99gb),and it works perfectly.Battery life,camera,bluetooth,everthing works amazingly compared to older nougat betas.
L-31 P9, Battery life is much better used to get only 4 hours on screen time watching videos now i get 6 with 25% left so easily 7 (my screen is always at 60% brightness) I'm not rooted because i didn't flash it after but i will root soon using a PC (I'm new to rooting (came from IPhone) yet i can easily do it probably because I'm a very techy person) anyway it seems faster my camera and everything works fine i used to get 1.8gb 4am max now i get 2.2 (with no apps running) also split screen works very well and is not laggy at all, one complain i have is the live wallpaper i used for some reason stoped working after i updated (black hole stock love wallpaper) i went into settings to re apply it as it's happened once before on MM but i said there was no wallpapers at all not even still ones, if someone could give me a link to the live wallpaper I'd really appreciate that but other than that no complaints at all it's much better than MM it even has a F.LUX like function built in to reduce blue light levels to help late at night so you're not wide awake , the pull down menu has Many and i mean Many more functions not just 5-10 there's probably 20+ and you can have more than 5 at one time, notifications are good and work well, everything seems overly big to me but thats probably because i used to have my phone on a 300 DPI before de-rooting and updating, like i was saying it has almost no drawbacks it's very polished If you install it correctly (one package before the other and it only takes 20 mins max and you data is not deleted i used tarp not the one from this forum but it works the same i got logged out of apps and that's all that's happend when i updated)
simo255 said:
People who brick their device doesn't follow the steps as there are written.
for example t hey flash the b370 version without the additional package and they reply 'bluetooth isnt working'
i encourage people upgrading to nougat because of the new ui, the better battery/ram management and the appearance of drawer
i rollbacked too many times to marshmallow, upgraded to nougat without any problem or brick, just follow the steps and the installation is successful.
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I agree 100%.
Upgrade to newer version of OS, official or unofficial, is one of the best thing of Android. But people need to be careful with their device, if it's not an OTA update obviously there are some steps to follow.. every device is different and just flashing whatever without attention may cause problem. Reading the steps to follow takes only 1 minute.
I'm on B132, is there a quick way to upgrade to B370? I've tried hi-care app but says no updates
Thanks
simo255 said:
People who brick their device doesn't follow the steps as there are written.
for example t hey flash the b370 version without the additional package and they reply 'bluetooth isnt working'
i encourage people upgrading to nougat because of the new ui, the better battery/ram management and the appearance of drawer
i rollbacked too many times to marshmallow, upgraded to nougat without any problem or brick, just follow the steps and the installation is successful.
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sirjohnrl said:
I have two p9 lites,and they are both running on b370,updated trough hicare (1.99gb),and it works perfectly.Battery life,camera,bluetooth,everthing works amazingly compared to older nougat betas.
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bghyt said:
L-31 P9, Battery life is much better used to get only 4 hours on screen time watching videos now i get 6 with 25% left so easily 7 (my screen is always at 60% brightness) I'm not rooted because i didn't flash it after but i will root soon using a PC (I'm new to rooting (came from IPhone) yet i can easily do it probably because I'm a very techy person) anyway it seems faster my camera and everything works fine i used to get 1.8gb 4am max now i get 2.2 (with no apps running) also split screen works very well and is not laggy at all, one complain i have is the live wallpaper i used for some reason stoped working after i updated (black hole stock love wallpaper) i went into settings to re apply it as it's happened once before on MM but i said there was no wallpapers at all not even still ones, if someone could give me a link to the live wallpaper I'd really appreciate that but other than that no complaints at all it's much better than MM it even has a F.LUX like function built in to reduce blue light levels to help late at night so you're not wide awake , the pull down menu has Many and i mean Many more functions not just 5-10 there's probably 20+ and you can have more than 5 at one time, notifications are good and work well, everything seems overly big to me but thats probably because i used to have my phone on a 300 DPI before de-rooting and updating, like i was saying it has almost no drawbacks it's very polished If you install it correctly (one package before the other and it only takes 20 mins max and you data is not deleted i used tarp not the one from this forum but it works the same i got logged out of apps and that's all that's happend when i updated)
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Potato997 said:
I agree 100%.
Upgrade to newer version of OS, official or unofficial, is one of the best thing of Android. But people need to be careful with their device, if it's not an OTA update obviously there are some steps to follow.. every device is different and just flashing whatever without attention may cause problem. Reading the steps to follow takes only 1 minute.
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I take your points but looking at the answers and questions forum again today, I still think the number of people bricking or downgrading is quite high. I love Nougat too, but I am warning newbies that it might be worth waiting for an official update or if not, concentrating on what you're doing. My penny's worth...
StrangerWeather said:
I take your points but looking at the answers and questions forum again today, I still think the number of people bricking or downgrading is quite high. I love Nougat too, but I am warning newbies that it might be worth waiting for an official update or if not, concentrating on what you're doing. My penny's worth...
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I updated to B370 but had to downgrade to mm because my camera wasn't working, but overall it was a great experience. Can't wait to get an update where my camera works.
Sent from my HUAWEI VNS-L31 using Tapatalk
I see a lot of people have camera issue on l31 but for l21 everything seems to be OK. I have B370 on my l21 and I don't even think about rolling back to MM. Newest firmware is (at least in my opinion) stable and for now it runs flawlessly
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I see a lot of people have camera issue on l31 but for l21 everything seems to be OK. I have B370 on my l21 and I don't even think about rolling back to MM. Newest firmware is (at least in my opinion) stable and for now it runs flawlessly
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I have not managed to update my phone to Nougat. Everytime i try to use firmware finder or Hi suite , it keeps downloading the 1,24GB package and not the 1,99GB so i end up with a generic a15 Test Key phone
kourkoubas1981 said:
I have not managed to update my phone to Nougat. Everytime i try to use firmware finder or Hi suite , it keeps downloading the 1,24GB package and not the 1,99GB so i end up with a generic a15 Test Key phone
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Try the TWRP method.
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Try the TWRP method.
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I think that you must be bootloader unlock and rooted to use TWRP method . Too complicated for me :/
I have L21C900B170 after the fifth or sixth failure to go to 370 .
Whatever I try through Firmware Finder or HiSuite it keeps downloading the 1,24GB file and not the 1,99 Gb upgrade so I always and up with ND90 test key .
Something is blocking it but no one knows what
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I think that you must be bootloader unlock and rooted to use TWRP method . Too complicated for me :/
I have L21C900B170 after the fifth or sixth failure to go to 370 .
Whatever I try through Firmware Finder or HiSuite it keeps downloading the 1,24GB file and not the 1,99 Gb upgrade so I always and up with ND90 test key .
Something is blocking it but no one knows what
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It's really not all that difficult and there are several guides around here. Unlocking the bootloader and rooting MM is pretty much without risks. I'd say go for it.
kourkoubas1981 said:
I think that you must be bootloader unlock and rooted to use TWRP method . Too complicated for me :/
I have L21C900B170 after the fifth or sixth failure to go to 370 .
Whatever I try through Firmware Finder or HiSuite it keeps downloading the 1,24GB file and not the 1,99 Gb upgrade so I always and up with ND90 test key .
Something is blocking it but no one knows what
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First this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/root-root-recovery-bootloader-unlock-t3457564
Then this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/nougat-official-firmware-t3512932
Looks like there is a majority of successful upgrades after all!
Well I did an upgrade and although at first I thought I 'borked it' - the build I have is 'NRD90M test-keys'
But I have to say after manually installing google keyboard and getting a few play store updates installed, it feels like an absolute rocket compared to the old EE B132 version
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First this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/root-root-recovery-bootloader-unlock-t3457564
Then this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/nougat-official-firmware-t3512932
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OK i managed to do the unlocking of bootloader - root but the first try of upgrading went me again to N90RDM test keys something :/
During the installation of the b370 files throught TWRP i got a message that there is /system
kourkoubas1981 said:
OK i managed to do the unlocking of bootloader - root but the first try of upgrading went me again to N90RDM test keys something :/
During the installation of the b370 files throught TWRP i got a message that there is /system
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Did you flash both files?
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Did you flash both files?
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If he made the same mistake as me then he didn't flash the second file, doh!:silly:
i'm thinking of trying to get twrp back on and having another go......
I've been using my Doogee X5 Pro (not Max) since its release, it came with stock android 5.1, there was only problem with the alarm clock (when you changed the phone's default volume down, the alarm's volume got damped every time but never up), so after a while I was trying out random rom across the web, almost every single one of them had some issues from 5.1 to 7.1 like calls were noisy, battery life wasn't correctly shown and camera flash doesn't work, can't connect to PC, wifi problems etc. In the meanwhile doogee released an Official stock rom 6.0 and so for like a year and a half I had that on my phone but for a few months I am getting really aggressive popup ads on the phone, disabled com.android.snap and deleted/disabled every chinese app that might cause this, so far it works until I have to restard the phone for some reason? then I have to do it all over again.
Trying and testing every single avaiable ROm for just one phone would take tremendous ammount of time.
So I am curious, Is there any ROM that worth the effort to be bothered with and provide a final solution? At least until another cheap and powerful micarle phone arrives from china (back in 2015 it was a wonder IMO) in about 1-2 years.
See the last post on this thread,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/doogee-x5/how-to/doogee-x5-max-pro-root-recovery-ota-t3501830/page4
Still not 100% clean but the best I've had yet.It's for the 32 bit version.
Doogee X5 Pro Android Go?
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See the last post on this thread,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/doogee-x5/how-to/doogee-x5-max-pro-root-recovery-ota-t3501830/page4
Still not 100% clean but the best I've had yet.It's for the 32 bit version.
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Thanks!
In the meanwhile I get to know about Android Go, I am still looking info about it, but this might actually would be the best if the Phone supports it.
Official, clean, takes up less space, etc. I am not sure about a couple of things in this topic.
rohirka said:
Thanks!
In the meanwhile I get to know about Android Go, I am still looking info about it, but this might actually would be the best if the Phone supports it.
Official, clean, takes up less space, etc. I am not sure about a couple of things in this topic.
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Just thought I would let you know I've found what seems to be a Stable malware free Rom for my Doogee X5 Max pro(at last).I've been testing it today after your post.
It's the .rom made by or for Xiaomi phones.MUI 8
I've not got enough posts on the forum yet to post the links
Installed with TWRP installed and Superuser rooted.
It took between 5 and 10 mins to load on first boot after flashing so be patient after TWRP install.After that pretty normal reboot times etc.
I did a Factory reset before installing the .rom
Then after the first boot I did another Factory Reset just to make sure it was installed super clean.
Some apps played up and it stated that it pre-installed,"Gapps" but it didn't.After research I found and installed this one and it works,
The Installer.apk didn't work but loading the MM-gapps-fixed-signed.zip loaded via TWRP works.
It's a very nice rom and looks like a,"Keeper" but time will tell.Scanned with Eset and no problems.
If you use TWRP to make a Nanroid backup before you try it you can easily go back to your present .rom if you don;t like it.It will take time to set it up right as a few things are different to find but nothing too bad.
I don't like stock file managers so quickly installed my fave,"total Commander" which I keep copies of on the SD card and my Laptop along with other apps/apks to save download times.
I don't know if I'm allowed to post links via Private message so it you want them PM me and we'll try
Just thought I would update.Although the Xiaomi phones.MUI 8 rom seems stable and half decent out-of-the-box there are some niggles when I used some of my Fave apps.Total commander file manager is slowed down.I couldn't change the Wallpaper unless I uninstaleld,"Holo Launcher" my fave launcher.
I decided to go back to my previous post Stock/modded rom.
[However.I've installed and been testing
How To Install Lineage OS 15 For Doogee X5 Max Pro (Development)
put it into a search engine as I can't post links.
The 14.1 Lineage is running Fantastic.Totally clean so far and no problem with any of my apps.
If it keeps up like this this is how a DooGee X5 Max Pro should be :good:
Note:Yet again on first boot it took over 10 mins to come online so be patient but then acts normal.
Also I like to use a Different Keyboard so for any Lineage 14.1 users it's hidden away a bit on how to change.
Install your fave keyboard then
Settings
Languagea & Input
Virtual Keyboard
+ sign Manage Keyboards.May require a reboot after selection.
Lineage 14.1 keyboard change<solved>
R1ffR4ff said:
Just thought I would update.Although the Xiaomi phones.MUI 8 rom seems stable and half decent out-of-the-box there are some niggles when I used some of my Fave apps.Total commander file manager is slowed down.I couldn't change the Wallpaper unless I uninstaleld,"Holo Launcher" my fave launcher.
I decided to go back to my previous post Stock/modded rom.
[However.I've installed and been testing
How To Install Lineage OS 15 For Doogee X5 Max Pro (Development)
put it into a search engine as I can't post links.
The 14.1 Lineage is running Fantastic.Totally clean so far and no problem with any of my apps.
If it keeps up like this this is how a DooGee X5 Max Pro should be :good:
Note:Yet again on first boot it took over 10 mins to come online so be patient but then acts normal.
Also I like to use a Different Keyboard so for any Lineage 14.1 users it's hidden away a bit on how to change.
Install your fave keyboard then
Settings
Languagea & Input
Virtual Keyboard
+ sign Manage Keyboards.May require a reboot after selection.
Lineage 14.1 keyboard change<solved>
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Hey! Thanks!
I will look into it next weekend! After black friday.
rohirka said:
Hey! Thanks!
I will look into it next weekend! After black friday.
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It will be worth it I think.I've been setting it up how I like it and not one crash or problem I can 't sort so far.I didn't even have to install Gapps.I just used my WiFi to install Google stuff and gmail/google drive.
The DooGee isn't my main phone now as I got fed up of the Malware/Adware rubbish but it's now going to make a fine backup phone :good:
PS
I keep TWRP Nandroid backups on my Laptop so I can easily re-install quick once setup .Also the TWRP backup time is less than 200 seconds compared with over 300 for the other roms so it's a super slim rom
R1ffR4ff said:
It will be worth it I think.I've been setting it up how I like it and not one crash or problem I can 't sort so far.I didn't even have to install Gapps.I just used my WiFi to install Google stuff and gmail/google drive.
The DooGee isn't my main phone now as I got fed up of the Malware/Adware rubbish but it's now going to make a fine backup phone :good:
PS
I keep TWRP Nandroid backups on my Laptop so I can easily re-install quick once setup .Also the TWRP backup time is less than 200 seconds compared with over 300 for the other roms so it's a super slim rom
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Installaed TWRP 3.2.2.0 and LineageOS 14.1 with ARM Gapps (pico). From this site-- getdroidtips dot com/lineage-os-14-1-on-doogee-x5-pro/ -- there is a link which leads to 4 different LineageOS 14.1, sadly the oldest one installs without any problem. With the 3 latest one I get the STATUS CODE 7 error in TWRP, googled the problem, edited the updater-script.txt with notepad++ for the latest one and tried again after that I get the error that the "updater-script" missing from the path or something like this. Didn't have time to check the others. (Before all I installed XenonHD for Doogee X5 Pro without any problem but I want LineageOS). Also on the installed LineageOS the networking doesn't seem to work well. Will open a new thread about the whole problem.
rohirka said:
Installaed TWRP 3.2.2.0 and LineageOS 14.1 with ARM Gapps (pico). From this site-- getdroidtips dot com/lineage-os-14-1-on-doogee-x5-pro/ -- there is a link which leads to 4 different LineageOS 14.1, sadly the oldest one installs without any problem. With the 3 latest one I get the STATUS CODE 7 error in TWRP, googled the problem, edited the updater-script.txt with notepad++ for the latest one and tried again after that I get the error that the "updater-script" missing from the path or something like this. Didn't have time to check the others. (Before all I installed XenonHD for Doogee X5 Pro without any problem but I want LineageOS). Also on the installed LineageOS the networking doesn't seem to work well. Will open a new thread about the whole problem.
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Have sent you a PM
Hello,
I bought a 9T Pro in Europe for my wife and until it arrives I'm trying to research and come up with a low effort process of keeping the stock ROM up to date and rooted for her. I'm confident in manually installing and updating custom ROMs, rooting and dealing with custom ROM issues, but she is not. Therefore I thought the best thing is to use the stock ROM - not custom - since it may be the most stable experience and for me to update and re-root it for her regularly. root is mandatory because we need AdAway and other things. As I understand it, as soon as we unlock and root the phone, OTA updates for stock are impossible and maybe even dangerous. I've tried researching here but am bit struggling to come up with the right infos and I'd be glad for any advice.
Of course I have seen the great thread about unlocking, rooting, etc, but It seems that that deals with non-standard Chinese firmware pre-installed, which is probably not the case on our device. Since it's bought in Europe, I think it will probably come with some Global or EU ROM. And it doesn't answer some of my other questions.
So far my idea is roughly like this:
Phone arrives
Immediately update it via built-in OTA to latest official stock ROM
Unlock, install TWRP, root with Magisk
Use the phone
Whenever a new stock ROM comes out, download it from XDA
Flash new ROM in TWRP and root again with Magisk
Repeat 4-6 as new stock ROM versions are released
Of course regularly backup with Titanium Backup and TWRP
First of all, would this work or did I misunderstand something fundamental?
How does low level firmware / modem update come into play? Would that be included in the stock ROM packages I find here? Or do I need to manually update that separately? How do I know when I have to, since there is no custom ROM maintainer telling me when it's needed?
Is there an easier way of doing this? This process requires me to regularly check for a new stock ROM, then borrow the phone from the wife for some time to backup, update, re-root and so on. Not that convenient but it would work if there is no better way.
Sorry for the long post, but I'd be very thankful for any advice or ideas. I did quite some research, but if all this info is already available and I missed it, my sincere apologies. It's a lot of info about a new device to take in. :silly:
derfraenk said:
Hello,
I bought a 9T Pro in Europe for my wife and until it arrives I'm trying to research and come up with a low effort process of keeping the stock ROM up to date and rooted for her. I'm confident in manually installing and updating custom ROMs, rooting and dealing with custom ROM issues, but she is not. Therefore I thought the best thing is to use the stock ROM - not custom - since it may be the most stable experience and for me to update and re-root it for her regularly. root is mandatory because we need AdAway and other things. As I understand it, as soon as we unlock and root the phone, OTA updates for stock are impossible and maybe even dangerous. I've tried researching here but am bit struggling to come up with the right infos and I'd be glad for any advice.
Of course I have seen the great thread about unlocking, rooting, etc, but It seems that that deals with non-standard Chinese firmware pre-installed, which is probably not the case on our device. Since it's bought in Europe, I think it will probably come with some Global or EU ROM. And it doesn't answer some of my other questions.
So far my idea is roughly like this:
Phone arrives
Immediately update it via built-in OTA to latest official stock ROM
Unlock, install TWRP, root with Magisk
Use the phone
Whenever a new stock ROM comes out, download it from XDA
Flash new ROM in TWRP and root again with Magisk
Repeat 4-6 as new stock ROM versions are released
Of course regularly backup with Titanium Backup and TWRP
First of all, would this work or did I misunderstand something fundamental?
How does low level firmware / modem update come into play? Would that be included in the stock ROM packages I find here? Or do I need to manually update that separately? How do I know when I have to, since there is no custom ROM maintainer telling me when it's needed?
Is there an easier way of doing this? This process requires me to regularly check for a new stock ROM, then borrow the phone from the wife for some time to backup, update, re-root and so on. Not that convenient but it would work if there is no better way.
Sorry for the long post, but I'd be very thankful for any advice or ideas. I did quite some research, but if all this info is already available and I missed it, my sincere apologies. It's a lot of info about a new device to take in. :silly:
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I didn't keep stock MIUI long enough to know definite answers, but from what I remember, this is my understanding.
OTA will still work and shouldn't cause any issues, just that you will lose TWRP and root whenever you do this.
The steps you give are the normal way to update with TWRP and root.
However, OrangeFox recovery (a heavily modified version of TWRP) is often used instead of TWRP in this circumstance. It is built specifically for MIUI devices and with a little bit of work, I believe that it is able to survive OTA updates. Have another dig around for OrangeFox in this forum section and hopefully you'll find details on how to set it up so that you can still take OTA updates.
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Found this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...efox-recovery-mi-9t-pro-t3980579/post80480669
It seems OrangeFox it's a bit hit and miss.
Also Xiaomi.eu ROMs are another alternative to look into.
Robbo.5000 said:
I didn't keep stock MIUI long enough to know definite answers, but from what I remember, this is my understanding.
OTA will still work and shouldn't cause any issues, just that you will lose TWRP and root whenever you do this.
The steps you give are the normal way to update with TWRP and root.
However, OrangeFox recovery (a heavily modified version of TWRP) is often used instead of TWRP in this circumstance. It is built specifically for MIUI devices and with a little bit of work, I believe that it is able to survive OTA updates. Have another dig around for OrangeFox in this forum section and hopefully you'll find details on how to set it up so that you can still take OTA updates.
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Found this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...efox-recovery-mi-9t-pro-t3980579/post80480669
It seems OrangeFox it's a bit hit and miss.
Also Xiaomi.eu ROMs are another alternative to look into.
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Wow, that's a lot of helpful info, thanks a lot for pointing me into these directions. I will definitely look into Xiaomi.eu, I that sounds promising!
Get phone. Apply for unlock. Unlock.
You can use my guide bit.do/raphaelguide
Use orangefox 10.8 use magisk.
You can flash eu ROM. Stable version. From xiaomi.eu
Eu rom installs official twrp after install. You are familiar with that
Once you have eu ROM ( same as stock, better performance, minimal bloat, no ads, no tracking)
Eu ROMs gets OTA, keeps root. This is exactly what you want. Just press update in settings as normal ota. It'll do normal ota update by itself, no titanium, migrate hassle.
Join telegram group if you want or on me for any help.
Sandeeep Kiran said:
Get phone. Apply for unlock. Unlock.
You can use my guide bit.do/raphaelguide
Use orangefox 10.8 use magisk.
You can flash eu ROM. Stable version. From xiaomi.eu
Eu rom installs official twrp after install. You are familiar with that
Once you have eu ROM ( same as stock, better performance, minimal bloat, no ads, no tracking)
Eu ROMs gets OTA, keeps root. This is exactly what you want. Just press update in settings as normal ota. It'll do normal ota update by itself, no titanium, migrate hassle.
Join telegram group if you want or on me for any help.
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Amazing, I have taken a look at Xiaomi.eu already and decided to try that. But what you're saying sounds even much better than what I expected. Thank you very much too, I will definitely go that route.
Hi guys,
I'm a bit concerned about my mi8. Since several weeks now the phone is getting so slow to boot, even into recovery mode !
For exemple, today before starting to see the havoc logo spinning I count more than 20 spins. Months ago it took only 5 or 6, 2 weeks ago : more than 8... Etc.
When phone is started first apps tha usualy open really fast (Viper4fx, gsam battery monitor, magisk notifications) are so slow to open. Some other apps same thing the moment I open them.
What do you think about that ? At first I thought my battery is dead. It charges as fast as usual. Discharging is like before I'd way. Not worst for sure So I hope Its nor that.
I'm using battery charge limit (the app, nor from havoc sertings) to stop at 81% and charge it always when the minimum reaches 40%. So for battery life I think I'm doing things well.
I'm still on pie. Please, see the attached picture to look at my version.
I'm wondering what could cause this big issue.
I'm used my make lot of backups with twrp 3.3.1-1. Sometimes 2 per days, sometimes none in 2 or 3 days and so from the day I unlocked the phone and installed my first and only rom : havoc. Sure I installed several updates but no other ROM and I stopped updating it cause it worked really as I expect it should. So...
Also, making twrp backups are Soooo slow. Generaly it tooks depending of the size, between 90 sec and 140. Now it takes more than 6 min !!
So before doing a last backup and do anything I wanted to ask what you all think about that before doing a clean install update/upgrade.
Do you think it worth the try ?
I tried to clear caches (both) in twrp. Nothing :/
I'm afraid I killed my phone memory or battery. Don't really know.
Last thing, maybe an important one but don't know why it would... I installed notify & fitness and sleep as Android for my mi band 4 and I noticed my phone getting slow during this period. About N&F it was on 12.27.2019.
The firmware was updated way after that issue... And of course I cleaned all app caches manualy, not using some weird app to do the job.
Sorry me for this long SOS, and please forgive my bad english. I'm starting to being crazy. OK, the phone works but oooh boy, Its slow.
Cheers
Your rom software is out of date. if you truly want the best experience on a daily basis. There is no doubt in my mind that Xiaomi.EU is still the absolute best experience overall.
It is light years better than the Global stock Rom, all of the bloat has been removed and it has some of the Pixel AOSP features integrated into the Rom. but yes it's still miui. For me that is a good thing because I am a fan. It sounds like you have never tried Xiaomi.EU so give it a shot. I guarantee, that if you keep it installed for a few days, you will not want anything else unless you are just bored. Wait until the new update comes out, it should be late today or tomorrow. by the way, you will average about 7.5 -8.5 hours SOT.
On the other hand, if you are content with Havoc, then migrate to the latest, Its pretty great but the battery SOT time is bad right at 4 hours. This can be improved by changing the kernel. I tested the LawRun_x5.0-60hz kernel and it improves SOT to 5.5 hours, and the OS gennnerally runs better. Other Roms are also good, but lack the abundance of features that Havoc has. A comparable heavily feature rich rom is CRDroid.
If you want to stay on your current rom, then clean your caches, and at least upgrade the kernel. That alone may be enough to improve your recent performance. i dont think you phone is going bad. You likely just have some corruption, or too many processes running in the background.
@tsongming Hi and cheers for replying.
To start, I forget to mention that I'm using a global version.
That being said, I did clean all caches including from all my apps. Manualy of course.
I did use Xiaomi MIUI for very long time. Since I got my first Redmi Note 4. As you well said, I did switch to custom ROMs for what you said.
Regarding SOT... And the reason why I didn't update anything on my Mi8 its because with this version of havoc and this kernel. Gsam bat monitor tells me now : 9h41 (5h58 Max) and before my issue it was 11h !
So, to answer you : before asking here I also trying to update the Rev kernel but lot of things didn't work anymore. Like unlock the phone with my fingers and I think its pretty much normal as Havoc as evolved so kernel did the same and is not compatible with older version I think. At least, mine...
Honestly I tried lot of things to make my havoc super speed, smooth with a great battery and I was happy with that
I do hope I answered to all your questions.
I don't know what to do cause I'm not 100% sure that starting from clean MIUI or custom rom will fix it. What if not ? I'll "forced" to reinstall "everything" (I'm aware of backup apps but dont wanna use them) even if I saved all important stuffs
And if I badly revert to the last MIUI (I never reinstalled MIUI after a custom ROM. I know there is good tuto, but...) I could break it and I'll loose everything. For now it works, slowly OK ^^' but I rather that than taking a risk and found what is the cause of my problem.
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@tsongming Hi and cheers for replying.
To start, I forget to mention that I'm using a global version.
That being said, I did clean all caches including from all my apps. Manualy of course.
I did use Xiaomi MIUI for very long time. Since I got my first Redmi Note 4. As you well said, I did switch to custom ROMs for what you said.
Regarding SOT... And the reason why I didn't update anything on my Mi8 its because with this version of havoc and this kernel. Gsam bat monitor tells me now : 9h41 (5h58 Max) and before my issue it was 11h !
So, to answer you : before asking here I also trying to update the Rev kernel but lot of things didn't work anymore. Like unlock the phone with my fingers and I think its pretty much normal as Havoc as evolved so kernel did the same and is not compatible with older version I think. At least, mine...
Honestly I tried lot of things to make my havoc super speed, smooth with a great battery and I was happy with that
I do hope I answered to all your questions.
I don't know what to do cause I'm not 100% sure that starting from clean MIUI or custom rom will fix it. What if not ? I'll "forced" to reinstall "everything" (I'm aware of backup apps but dont wanna use them) even if I saved all important stuffs
And if I badly revert to the last MIUI (I never reinstalled MIUI after a custom ROM. I know there is good tuto, but...) I could break it and I'll loose everything. For now it works, slowly OK ^^' but I rather that than taking a risk and found what is the cause of my problem.
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The current version of Havoc already uses the Revolution kernel, and its part of the current problem so use something else. The Law kernel that I mentioned is extremely good. but so are the others latest release such as Mipa and Twisted. and no fingerprint issues with these kernels.
As a longtime user you do know that anytime you switch the kernel that you should remove all passkeys, screenlocks, face unlock etc.? This could explain the slowness, you have encryption issues.
Android 10 is much improved over pie, except for the battery 11 hours SOT is unheard of on Android 10. Except for 1 guy claiming 11 hours on the ION rom. I tried the rom and it is good. but I am only getting 7 hours Sot, and the Rom is like Lineage, just the basics. No fingerprint issues.
You truly need a full clean install, including formatting storage. just backup your files first.
Xiaomi Miui? Did you mean Xiaomi.EU? if not Xiaomi.EU , then you really should try it, you wouldn't know from a past experience. This is Miui 11 on Android 10 and its flawless.
thx again @tsongming
Yep, I note all what you said to me. But to be honest last year anytime I switched from kernels to kernels I never had to reset screenlock etc. Last year cause as I said once I found the kernel which suits me I stuck with it.
So I can state its note related to that cause I didn't change it since month trust me, just tried the last kernel one or week ago to be sure if it was the cause or not. Just installed and uninstalled apps since.
look at this screenshot you'll see what I meant about SOT which was better month ago. :/ Maybe I didn't explain well...
I'm not against trying any roms including xiaomi.eu perhaps (I do have links for this I think but any link is appreciated just in case. I just download the lastest stable 11 from xiaomi.eu if its what you have in mind) but I want to be sure if it'll fix what I'm facing. You know ?
I'm afraid that doing a clean install with any rom won't fix my beautiful Mi8 ^^
Erpe7 said:
thx again @tsongming
Yep, I note all what you said to me. But to be honest last year anytime I switched from kernels to kernels I never had to reset screenlock etc. Last year cause as I said once I found the kernel which suits me I stuck with it.
So I can state its note related to that cause I didn't change it since month trust me, just tried the last kernel one or week ago to be sure if it was the cause or not. Just installed and uninstalled apps since.
look at this screenshot you'll see what I meant about SOT which was better month ago. :/ Maybe I didn't explain well...
I'm not against trying any roms including xiaomi.eu perhaps (I do have links for this I think but any link is appreciated just in case. I just download the latest stable 11 from xiaomi.eu if its what you have in mind) but I want to be sure if it'll fix what I'm facing. You know ?
I'm afraid that doing a clean install with any rom won't fix my beautiful Mi8 ^^
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You posted a question asking for help, but then you dont want to try anything because you tried things before. Yes, its true that Magisk is sometimes persistent, but it depends on the release. it is safer to remove the passkeys.
But if you really think about it, what would cause the phone to cool down, ignore the battery stats especially from Gsam it's often very wrong, I use it too, for years and in your case you are getting good SOT because you have a zero % for the phone. It's almost like a Sim card isn't installed? Every rom will provide extremely fantastic SOT when a sim card isn't being used. If you have an active sim card then something is wrong with the monitoring because Gsam is showing 0%, it should show something even if you havent made a phone call for days.
Do whatever you want it's your phone:
I still think that you have encryption or corruption issues and its bad enough for your to make a post about it. FYI : The battery dying doesnt slow down the phone. Yes, some stock roms, notably Apple intentionally by choice changed the kernel core settings automatically on aging batteries. Hence the huge controversy a couple of years ago, that isn't happening to you.
A dying battery doesn't slow down the phone, evn cold solder joints do not slow down the phone, they keep a phone from booting to system and to recovery. The only thing left is corruption or thermals, which on this phone good luck editing thermals because they are mostly encrypted. The remaining possibility is corruption, post your log files and lets see what's actually going on.
Again, what would slow down your phone even in recovery?
It's always thermals, or corruption. Slow to start up, even in recovery.: We can rule out thermals unless your battery temp or cores temps are extremely high. This leaves corruption. if its slow while booted into the system, then you may have apps or processes crashing and you are not aware of it. If that is true, then eventually the phone may stop booting up altogether. If its thermals causing overheating you should truly resolve this issue immediately before actual heat damage occurs. Did you ever flash display refresh rate mods? If so your DTBO partition could be the issue....corruption.
Use this program to provide an app list : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.onyxbits.listmyapps ( Weed out any unknown programs that you may not realise are installed. Post the list along with complete logs. Once you see these crashes, that I am sure the logs will show: Do as I suggested earlier: wipe and "format" your phone. Then later use best practices and remove passwords before changing kernels
Cheers. I'll try what you suggest.
I might have some questions in the future regarding format and some other things.
Never flashes display refresh rate and never noticed any overheat issue on my phone.
Sure, I'll do something like you said as soon as possible.
PS : you said "before remove passwords". You mean in the parameters of the phone like schema/diagram, pin, etc ?
Cheers
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Cheers. I'll try what you suggest.
I might have some questions in the future regarding format and some other things.
Never flashes display refresh rate and never noticed any overheat issue on my phone.
Sure, I'll do something like you said as soon as possible.
PS : you said "before remove passwords". You mean in the parameters of the phone like schema/diagram, pin, etc ?
Cheers
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You could remove password under data/system/locksettings.bin But it's better to just go the settings//security/ *.* < remove whatever you have setup : prints and face unlock first before, pattern or pin.
Another good practice for Android 10, should you go there is :
Extract the boot image from the rom
Place it inside the downloads folder.
When ready to flash root, patch to the boot image first, ( this links the existing system binary credentials into the boot image)
Boot to recovery flash boot to boot
Then flash magisk > then boot to system and you will have no issues whatsoever with root.
Afterwards, if you decide to flash different kernel, Magisk is more likely to stay stay persistent.
I hope everything is good from this point forward take care.
@tsongming Thanks for reminding me the locksettings.bin thing because I used it once on my old phone and I forgot that.
Never installed 10 yet. But I take carefuly your advice.
Hello!
Did you fix it? Because it's happening to my Mi 8 too. It's exactly the same issue, the phone takes a long time to boot up, to open apps and even to boot into TWRP
I have that issues on my mi8
I had this problem with me before and I solved it by flashing the last official ROM, Now the problem happened to me again and I do not know what is the reason behind it @tsongming
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I have that issues on my mi8
I had this problem with me before and I solved it by flashing the last official ROM, Now the problem happened to me again and I do not know what is the reason behind it @tsongming
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I recently had some issues with my phone as well. I was able to get my phone back to normal functioning by flashing the latest stable fastboot rom using the flashall.bat method. (dipper_global_images_V11.0.3.0.QEAMIXM_20200118.0000.00_10.0_global)
I kept everything stock for a few days even recovery, to ensure once that everything was back to normal.
Next I flashed the latest OrangeFox beta recovery, and I highly recommend the latest beta build over any other version of Recovery, it will decrypt when official Twrp will not. It is now more up to date than the LR Team version, and all of the bugs have been solved by DarthJabba. In fact, he even added a script to work around poorly designed startup scripts, which are suprisening not consistent between the wide range of custom roms for the Mi8.
Today, I am still using Orange Fox, ( OrangeFox-R10.1_002-Beta-dipper) and the latest stable Magisk. I no longer have freezing, unexpected shutdowns, slow starts, or poor battery life. My issue was without a doubt corruption, and bugs with the mid february version of Xiaomi.EU. The last 2 releases have been solid.
Since this weekend I face the same problem. Every action seems to bit slower than before. And I don't know what I did that resulted in this problem. The last thing I remember I installed was the new Miui12 live backgrounds. But I deleted them again.
I'm on stock since some weeks.
But I don't want to install everything from the beginning again.
Do you know how to solve the problem without wiping everything?
Edit: As I think about it, it seems as if the caching of the apps doesn't work as good as before and the killing of apps is too aggressiv.
But what did affect it?
Edit: I found the solution for my problem.
With Android Battery Historian was able to find the process that made the trouble.
It was the Miui wallpaper carousel app. After deleting it the problems were gone.
Erpe7 said:
Hi guys,
I'm a bit concerned about my mi8. Since several weeks now the phone is getting so slow to boot, even into recovery mode !
For exemple, today before starting to see the havoc logo spinning I count more than 20 spins. Months ago it took only 5 or 6, 2 weeks ago : more than 8... Etc.
When phone is started first apps tha usualy open really fast (Viper4fx, gsam battery monitor, magisk notifications) are so slow to open. Some other apps same thing the moment I open them.
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it's a hardware issue and it's going to keep coming back, i spent the last two months trying to resolve it but i gave up.
it seems that UFS chip malfunctions on a lot of F1 and mi8 phones.
danielnavarrowo said:
Hello!
Did you fix it? Because it's happening to my Mi 8 too. It's exactly the same issue, the phone takes a long time to boot up, to open apps and even to boot into TWRP
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Sorry for repling only now guys...
Thx to all who proposed to solve my issue, I will tell you what I did to fix my mi 8.
I did a crystal clean flash :
- downloaded & installed last miui image using miflash
- used "clean all" at the bottom right (be careful to not choose something else like "lock boot loader ")
- then you'll need to flash recovery (twrp), then format data by typing yes. Then copy from where you want your custom rom, flash it flash magisk and boot.
I did this several months from now and my phone is like just new!
No issue at all since.
I guess installing lot of different kernels like I did before must have broken something and hopefully this could help if you dont have more serious issues.
Ps: battery is more than ok and there is no hardware problem.
Thx again to Dexer125 for his help!
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Erpe7 said:
Sorry for repling only now guys...
Thx to all who proposed to solve my issue, I will tell you what I did to fix my mi 8.
I did a crystal clean flash :
- downloaded & installed last miui image using miflash
- used "clean all" at the bottom right (be careful to not choose something else like "lock boot loader ")
- then you'll need to flash recovery (twrp), then format data by typing yes. Then copy from where you want your custom rom, flash it flash magisk and boot.
I did this several months from now and my phone is like just new!
No issue at all since.
I guess installing lot of different kernels like I did before must have broken something and hopefully this could help if you dont have more serious issues.
Ps: battery is more than ok and there is no hardware problem.
Thx again to Dexer125 for his help!
Sent from my dipper using XDA Labs
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I can confirm this.
I have been unrooted on stock for a few months now and have had no problems since then.
Hello, I have the slow issue (Androbench app with poor performances) after several dates when I have rooted my phone: Mi8 Chinese version with stock global ROM.
After unroot the phone, several days after, the phone works fine with Androbench app with good performances.
I need root my phone to use Magisk hide for Google Pay in order to avoid the Google block for contactless payment.
Can anybody help me about the understanding of this behaviour?
I do not know the reason why the phone is slow after root and why the phone works fine after several days after rooting.
Thanks in advance. Regards
roberbas said:
Hello, I have the slow issue (Androbench app with poor performances) after several dates when I have rooted my phone: Mi8 Chinese version with stock global ROM.
After unroot the phone, several days after, the phone works fine with Androbench app with good performances.
I need root my phone to use Magisk hide for Google Pay in order to avoid the Google block for contactless payment.
Can anybody help me about the understanding of this behaviour?
I do not know the reason why the phone is slow after root and why the phone works fine after several days after rooting.
Thanks in advance. Regards
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Hi,
Mine has hardware issue (rooted).
Didn't try to unroot it if there is a difference like you describe.
Can't help you with magisk hide. I don't use it.
I have this issue with my mi 8 guys, just happened yesterday
So flashing the latest official rom via miflash is the way to fix it?
Irish_Dude said:
I have this issue with my mi 8 guys, just happened yesterday
So flashing the latest official rom via miflash is the way to fix it?
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Hello, yes in my case. Sometimes, with wipe all, internal storage included, the problem it solved.
Recently I have the issue again without root: only with custom rom flashed. Several times the issue was reproduced out of my habitual site during vacances.
Thanks