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I have gotten a few private messages plus some people have posted on the threads with the updates.
Do NOT update to 5.1.1 if you want to maintain root.
After days of tinkering, here are your possible outcomes (none of which are what you want):
A. Continuous soft reboot after upgrading via FlashFire updates.
B. Use ODIN to flash the system/boot partitions or properly done FlashFire update... Hoorah! You're on 5.1.1, but your fingerprint sensor and LTE are dead - plus no root.
C. You try to downgrade after B, and you no longer have signal under any circumstance.
Personally, I am now just going to flash the OI2 ODIN files in full and be done with it until a new root method is available. Sorry guys, I have tried everything that I can think of. As you can see above that something in the 5.1.1 kernel/system images require the latest bootloader which is what allows us to downgrade and get root from OE2 using PingPong.
There is a possibility of a new solution soon enough... see progress here for other models of S6: UniKernel
Yeah I ended up tripping knox in my attempts at working something out. Fortunately I was able to revert but thats only because I didn't dare try and flash the bootloader or modem. Man this is like a sick mind-game. I wish I would have had more experience with Samsung and AT&T before I bought this damn phone. This is my first phone on AT&T and my first Samsung. It was the perfect **** storm... I never anticipated this bull****, after this long... And I can't even get rid of the damn thing. Nobody wants it.
wesgarner said:
I have gotten a few private messages plus some people have posted on the threads with the updates.
Do NOT update to 5.1.1 if you want to maintain root.
After days of tinkering, here are your possible outcomes (none of which are what you want):
A. Continuous soft reboot after upgrading via FlashFire updates.
B. Use ODIN to flash the system/boot partitions or properly done FlashFire update... Hoorah! You're on 5.1.1, but your fingerprint sensor and LTE are dead - plus no root.
C. You try to downgrade after B, and you no longer have signal under any circumstance.
Personally, I am now just going to flash the OI2 ODIN files in full and be done with it until a new root method is available. Sorry guys, I have tried everything that I can think of. As you can see above that something in the 5.1.1 kernel/system images require the latest bootloader which is what allows us to downgrade and get root from OE2 using PingPong.
There is a possibility of a new solution soon enough... see progress here for other models of S6: UniKernel
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Forgive my ignorance here...I've not kept close track of the progress of unikernel. But it was my impression that without a custom recovery option, we are entirely SOL regarding custom kernels. Am I misunderstanding things, or did something change? I didn't see anything in the recent posts there that got my hopes up...
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Well technically you can flash the kernel using FlashFire however a screen will stop you from booting.. Says something about at&t detecting modified software on your device please take to repair center blah blah
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Well technically you can flash the kernel using FlashFire however a screen will stop you from booting.. Says something about at&t detecting modified software on your device please take to repair center blah blah
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Lol. Well not bootable is not useful! ?
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Gah! I don't even use custom roms. Stupid Textra App has this ****ty ghost notification that does not work on 5.0.x android. I would go to 5.1 unrooted but I just can't stand the thought of not being able to get rid of annoying notifications (wifi, etc). Plus all the custom easy hacks. So lame. Never going AT&T again. Why do they make it so difficult anyways? Tmobile doesn't.
They make the majority of their money from enterprise customers. These customers desire the locked bootloader as to avoid security risks. Since this is AT&T's main source of profit this is their main consideration. In short this phone and its software was not designed with our consumer use cases in mind. We are merely an after thought. I have waited too long I am jumping ship, just ordered a Moto X Pure and as soon as it gets here I am leaving this phone behind. Had it since launch and haven't been able to accomplish my original intention since then. Never buying from AT&T and also I am staying far away from anything with an Exynos chipset. Touch Wiz is a lag fest nightmare. For this to be pretty much the most powerful chip in the mobile space and to experience such a lag on it is truly unnerving. Samsung is all too eager to jump the Android band wagon all together and probably intend to do so as soon as they feel their tizen offerings stack up. And I sincerely hope they fail miserably. They are a good hardware company but they should just give up on software. They just don't get it at all.
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Yeah I ended up tripping knox in my attempts at working something out. Fortunately I was able to revert but thats only because I didn't dare try and flash the bootloader or modem. Man this is like a sick mind-game. I wish I would have had more experience with Samsung and AT&T before I bought this damn phone. This is my first phone on AT&T and my first Samsung. It was the perfect **** storm... I never anticipated this bull****, after this long... And I can't even get rid of the damn thing. Nobody wants it.
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Amen. Well said. Bravo.... I feel your pain. My first real SmartPhone was the Fire Phone with AT&T, exactly a year ago, and I took its enema for 10+ months before I finally decided to just add payments for the S6 and finally have a good phone I could root. So now I'm paying for both, and the more I search for help and answers on here, the more I feel like my kind aren't welcome. Not by the community, but by ATT and Samsung. Gee thanks.
Well, at least I have a new phone... I'm totally down to build and burn a 5.1.1 effigy with you, if you want.
Well I have already given up on this phone. See my post above. My sister has already agreed to take over the line and the phone payment and I just bought a Moto X Pure outright yesterday. Just waiting for it to arrive now.
I've been thinking of just doing an Odin back to stock (unrooted) and OTA update up to the newest 5.1.1 on my 925a for a week or so now. For anyone that is already on OI2, how is it working out for you? Is the phone still slow at times? Does the memory issues still exist?
I recall seeing an app a little while ago that is able to freeze/disable apps without root. What was that app? Has anyone tried doing something like this? How did it work out?
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I've been thinking of just doing an Odin back to stock (unrooted) and OTA update up to the newest 5.1.1 on my 925a for a week or so now. For anyone that is already on OI2, how is it working out for you? Is the phone still slow at times? Does the memory issues still exist?
I recall seeing an app a little while ago that is able to freeze/disable apps without root. What was that app? Has anyone tried doing something like this? How did it work out?
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Package disabler. Works like a charm.
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Package disabler. Works like a charm.
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Thanks! Is it the "for Samsung" one? or do you have another one in mind?
How is OI2 working out for you?
Don't have oi2, I have an s6 active, no update yet.
I'm on cataclysm right now and I miss Pie. I'd like to be able to keep Android Pay if possible, but I would give it up for a stable ROM with Pie. Any suggestions?
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I'm on cataclysm right now and I miss Pie. I'd like to be able to keep Android Pay if possible, but I would give it up for a stable ROM with Pie. Any suggestions?
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have u tried LMT? but this app requires root.. and as of the moment android pay is not working with rooted devices..
Android pay is working on cataclysm. I never flashed SuperSU. It's a great feature, but I still need a cc at 75% of the stores near me, so I'm not attached. I've tried LMT, but it's been a while. I've tried a few apps on the playstore that mimic Pie. I really like how the original looks and feels, though. I'm having trouble finding a stable ROM that has it. New to this phone and it's quirks. Thinking of trying resurrection remix next.
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especially with recent updates blocking the new supersu that doesn't modify system... I think your gonna be hard pressed to find ANY rom that has working android pay... Let alone one with android pay and pie controls.
If what you have now works with android pay and LMT, hold on for dear life.
Has BLU committed to a 7.0 update in any way? That would make it a nice value.
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Has BLU committed to a 7.0 update in any way? That would make it a nice value.
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BLU does not have a very good track record with maintaining or updating their devices... If not for Amazon that variant would still be stuck on 6.1.... But it is a nice phone for the price.... We would stand a better chance of getting Nougat if everyone that bought the device contributed to a fund, and paid Tinno to develop it....
Never mind Nougat! I want the damn voLTE update that they promised and never delivered. http://forum.xda-developers.com/r1-hd/how-to/amazon-reviews-influence-blu-to-release-t3470582
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Never mind Nougat! I want the damn voLTE update that they promised and never delivered. http://forum.xda-developers.com/r1-hd/how-to/amazon-reviews-influence-blu-to-release-t3470582
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Well you know technically we could sue them for false advertising and not going through with promises made to the end user. However, that is more hassle than its worth.
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Has BLU committed to a 7.0 update in any way? That would make it a nice value.
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They promised Android 7.0 last I heard .
Autolounge said:
They promised Android 7.0 last I heard .
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Source?
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Source?
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I'm not too sure. I'll look into it and see if I can get the source.
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Has BLU committed to a 7.0 update in any way? That would make it a nice value.
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I don't think so, the only phones receive the Android 7.0 OS Update are of Nexus, Samsung, LG, Motorolla, HTC and OnePlus. There is no mentioning of BLU. But if you want to see in detail then here is the source :
Name of site :- Techtimes.com
Topic name :- Android 7.0 Nougat: Here's A List Of Phones That Will Receive The Android 7.0 OS Update
I am a newbie on Xda and unable to insert the link in the post that's why I do like this but anybody who see this can give a link
I'm really liking some of the nougat feature modules coming out for xposed framework. Like Android N-ify and Assistant Enabler.
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I'm really liking some of the nougat feature modules coming out for xposed framework. Like Android N-ify and Assistant Enabler.
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How did you get the assistant enabled ? I tried but no go ;(
I don't know if this article is right but I hope it is: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...2KHnKai9JXiPC2yeQ&sig2=yVlX8vvx2WrBa4TUEXzyIQ
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How did you get the assistant enabled ? I tried but no go ;(
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Those are the names of the two Xposed modules that I installed.
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I don't know if this article is right but I hope it is: http://thegadgetsfreak.com/blu-r1-hd-is-a-budget-smartphone-upgradable-to-android-nougat/
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Better not expect it. Marshmallow still respectable, especially for general users who don't care if their phones got current version.
Not holding my breath
Would be nice. Sucks to buy a new phone only to find the NEXT android OS version comes out with new functionality like google assistant right after, and the phone MFR is all "sorry not upgrading that model" :silly:
Yeah, but it's much easier to take lack of updates on a $60 phone than a $600 phone!
Lenovo dropped updates on my, then $230, Moto G LTE xt1045 only 10 months after it was released. And that update from kitkat to lollipop was reported to have lots of problems.
Really? It's a 60 dollar phone it's already a heck of a value. It's not like 7 has any must have feature.
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Not yet xD
BLU did promise (actually "with a guaranteed update to Android 7.0.") to Android Authority during an interview about the BLU r1 HD, http://www.androidauthority.com/blu-r1-hd-announced-700951/
"US based, BLU Products, announced a new budget smartphone to its lineup for the US market. The BLU R1 HD is sold unlocked, backed by a 2500mAh battery and is currently one of the few devices yet, confirmed to run the upcoming Android 7.0 Nougat when it arrives later this year."
Will be interesting if we actually see Nougat since we haven't even seen LTE band 12 yet and that was promised by both Amazon and BLU R1 HD (shortly after release) 5 months later no update yet.
I would expect an CM rom or something to be completed and working perfectly before BLU officially releases a Nougat update.
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BLU did promise (actually "with a guaranteed update to Android 7.0.") to Android Authority during an interview about the BLU r1 HD, http://www.androidauthority.com/blu-r1-hd-announced-700951/
"US based, BLU Products, announced a new budget smartphone to its lineup for the US market. The BLU R1 HD is sold unlocked, backed by a 2500mAh battery and is currently one of the few devices yet, confirmed to run the upcoming Android 7.0 Nougat when it arrives later this year."
Will be interesting if we actually see Nougat since we haven't even seen LTE band 12 yet and that was promised by both Amazon and BLU R1 HD (shortly after release) 5 months later no update yet.
I would expect an CM rom or something to be completed and working perfectly before BLU officially releases a Nougat update.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2016/11/blu-r1-hd-update-adds-support-t-mobile-volte-band-12-lte/
There's the new band. So have faith!
I'm thinking buy this phone this week, it will recieve a Nougat's update ?
I want update my device to Android Pie.
But Xposed Framework doesn't work.
Please support it for 9.0.
Thanks.
@rovo89
It took over a year for Nougat to be supported... Don't hold your breath, and don't ask for an ETA.
If @rovo89 want to, and if it can be done, it'll be available eventually. Just don't go pestering him about it. It'll happen when it happens, not a second sooner.
Is there a thread or subforum that these Pie questions can accumulate in? I suspect this is going to keep popping up as more and more phones gain support for 9.0.
JD
The version for Oreo hasn't even left "beta" yet. Even if it stable enough, rovo hasn't updated it since january, I doubt he's going to jump into Pie without working on an stable version for Oreo first. I wish it was not this way but rovo seems very inactive lately
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The version for Oreo hasn't even left "beta" yet. Even if it stable enough, rovo hasn't updated it since january, I doubt he's going to jump into Pie without working on an stable version for Oreo first. I wish it was not this way but rovo seems very inactive lately
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He was active three months bud, he built a test framework for emui 8 users on GitHub. Update from Oreo to pie isn't huge.
Time to pitch a tent in 8.1.0 land...I'm not going anywhere without my GravityBox and Exi.
I upgraded my Pixel 2 XL to 9.0 foolishly without doing my homework first on Xposed compatibility, but thankfully was able to flash the factory image back to 8.1.0 and restore a TWRP backup I had saved to my PC before unwittingly upgrading to 9.0. Phew.
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He was active three months bud, he built a test framework for emui 8 users on GitHub. Update from Oreo to pie isn't huge.
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Well, look at XDA's last activity. How he has abandoned any "stable" oreo version then? If he was minimal active he would release beta3 renamed as stable and done, if he thinks so. Otherwise he's either completely silent but working at it, or not working at it at all. And we know perfectly that when rovo's silent, he uses to come back months later with "I was very busy with job and I may start porting this now". It is respectable, I'm just pointing and that he has never been silent and suddently appear and "version for lollipop/marshmallow/nougat/oreo sudden release!", he always explained progress, and when he didn't there was no progress made, in his own words.
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I want update my device to Android Pie.
But Xposed Framework doesn't work.
Please support it for 9.0.
Thanks.
@rovo89
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I'm waiting too much this version of xposed, we hope that rovo89 is going to work but besides him there is no one else able to create a beta for sdk 28 ????
You can use virtual xposed for now
I don't think it will ever be released, Xposed is dead
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I don't think it will ever be released, Xposed is dead
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folks said the same thing about xposed for nougat.
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folks said the same thing about xposed for nougat.
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Rovo hasn't updated GitHub for more than a year now
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Rovo hasn't updated GitHub for more than a year now
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The latest update from Rovo was published January 29th 2018.
I genuinely feel for the guy having so many demands when he has an outside life.
But he just needs to open source the project and let the community keep on top of it. I know it's his baby, but still, there's such demand and he has every right to not be able to stay on top of it alone.
I'm been using exposed too since as long as I can remember. I've also donated 2 times so maybe everyone should pitch in to get back the motivation
Will there be xposed support for Android Pie @rovo89
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I genuinely feel for the guy having so many demands when he has an outside life.
But he just needs to open source the project and let the community keep on top of it. I know it's his baby, but still, there's such demand and he has every right to not be able to stay on top of it alone.
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Open sourcing an app like this is not a good idea. The whole trick is apps can't tell how it is hiding it. Making it open source removes that and apps would just update every time it did. So it would never work for long. This is why Super User never went open source either. With apps like that there is a huge risk. With the source code I could easily make a packages that could do what ever I want without you knowing or interacting. I, would just have to get you to flash it. And to be honest. That wouldn't be too hard with most of the users here.
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It took over a year for Nougat to be supported...
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nougat version is still buggy and no update since 8 !!! month
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folks said the same thing about xposed for nougat.
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and the nougat version is still very buggy.
this is the cause why so many devs stop the apps
Just assume that Xposed is dead, until @rovo89 proves otherwise. Because until he says so, it is a dead project.
taboo_ said:
I genuinely feel for the guy having so many demands when he has an outside life.
But he just needs to open source the project and let the community keep on top of it. I know it's his baby, but still, there's such demand and he has every right to not be able to stay on top of it alone.
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@rovo89 - Please consider this. Either update, or open it up. There are A LOT of people waiting for a Pie update.
Hi, I am willing to do whatever it takes. I would like to create a phone with only the apps I have currently installed on my S10 that won't be leaking any kind of data (all of them can work offline). I don't care about any future updates and etc. I just want a phone with all the apps I have that I can continue using for the foreseeable future. I don't want any bloatware on it either. (The only app it would be hard for me to lose is google maps but I still would consider it). I also heard it is possible to use your Android device without a google account.
Any help is appreciated.
Thank you
look into microg/nanodroid ... not sure of compatibility with current s10 development, but I know at least nanodroid is in constant development...do your reading...there is no shortage of reading on this subject
Just saw this:
https://fossbytes.com/linux-based-smartphone-volla-phone-protects-anonymity/
If you come to the conclusion that your current phone just isn't going to get the job done.
To go truly without google apps (gapps) and still enjoy android, you need to install Lineage OS with the Gapps. Though do read through their post and learn more about it. You will lose samsung specific features like samsung pay and the camera app will be generic and warranty will be void. Though you will get faster updates as compare to Samsung.
If he has a U or U1 Galaxy phone, lineage OS won't work due to the locked bootloaders.
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If he has a U or U1 Galaxy phone, lineage OS won't work due to the locked bootloaders.
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How do I check?
For people who mentioned that I will lose updates. I don't need anything. I just need the apps that I have to remain working forever.
BuyXRPnow! said:
How do I check?
For people who mentioned that I will lose updates. I don't need anything. I just need the apps that I have to remain working forever.
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Phone model, the last phrase.
If it's U, U1, then you may never get what you desire.
I found it extremely daunting to install Lineage OS on my Galaxy S10. It was bootloader-unlockable but I only managed to go as far as rooting. After that I was completely lost. If anyone is willing to guide me I would probably gather enough energy to give it another try but I got really traumatized by the experience. For 3 days I just couldn't get my phone to be usable, total nightmare. I rolled everything back and now I am a bit afraid trying it again.