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When Xposed for ART?

When Xposed available for ART? Today has left the Android SDK 5.0

Available whenever you make it work. We are all waiting on you. Hurry please.
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Nice initiative Sheyla96. Do you have an ETA? I'm waiting too

It isn't an nice initiative at all. @rovo89 has said several times that it will come when it will come, he's doing this on his free time, jeez some people should just take a chill pill. ART hasn't been the official runtime for longer than 3 days and you're already starting, there isn't even a device running lollipop yet for god's sake! Sit down relax and wait for rovo to make his magic! @Sheyla96 @respider

I haven't seen any final version of ART yet, all just beta and preview versions. Even the version included in the latest emulator image (labeled "Android 5.0 / API 21") is at least a month old, or at least didn't include some of the commits of the master branch. Speaking of source code: It's still changing a lot. I wasn't able to build libart.so from source for the emulator as the included commit range is unclear (actually their Lollipop branch might be different from master, so knowning a date might not be enough). It's pretty hard to shoot such a fast-moving target. I hope that once a final version is out and the source code for is published (with a proper branch), changes will slow down a bit - and hopefully, vendors will use it pretty much unmodified.
I think I mentioned before that I had an early proof of concept for ART working in December. As I expected, many things had to be changed for the first L preview, and even then it didn't work. ART != ART. You may also have noticed that I haven't been here and didn't work on Xposd for the past three months for various reasons. I still don't have time and motivation to work on Xposed as I used to, but I'm slowly starting again (no promises though).
Last weekend, I started to try out a different approach, where I would make a few changes in the ART source code directly. This seems to be working much better and cleaner than trying to hack it from outside (especially because ART is much more complex and using many classes, templates etc. which are hard or impossible to work with). It also ensures control over the many variants it can be compiled with. The downside is that this would require replacing libart.so and libart-compiler.so on the system, and nobody knows whether vendors will build their ROMs with source code that is similar enough to AOSP to make this exchange possible. Then again, a library compiled against AOSP source probably wouldn't work with those ROMs either, as offsets etc. would be different.
Keep in mind that most of you are mainly interested in getting Xposed for Lollipop. ART is not the only new thing there, also SELinux is much stricter there, blocking many things required for Xposed. Not sure if there will be a different solution than disabling SELinux or exchanging the policy, both of which would probably require flashing a custom bootimage/kernel. But I'm not even thinking about this in detail yet, nor about different ways of installing Xposed (might be rather manually for the beginning). And I have no plans to use the Material Design anytime soon.
When I find the time and motivation, I will try to work on ART support. I will probably not be here and report about it though. When I think the time is right, I will publish my work-in-progress source code for others to help me (which requires a good understanding of advanced topics such as assembler/bytecode, so I'm afraid there won't be many people who can help). I consider everything I have done with ART so far as training - getting familiar with the source code, experimenting a lot, getting frustrated because it doesn't work most of the time. On Kitkat, ART is more or less a gimmick, most important it's optional. I might build an Xposed version that supports ART on Kitkat later if it can be maintained with little additional effort. If it's too different from the final ART, it will stay a proof of concept.
So in short: Wait until the final images and source code drop. Then wait again until it's ready. I can't give any estimation when that will be the case, it depends much on my personal situation. Chance are pretty low that it will be within a month after Lollipop release, and will get higher once I start thinking about flashing a Lollipop ROM myself (which would probably be CM12, and I think these guys won't give us a timeline either, for good reasons). I'm still not 100% sure Xposed for Lollipop will work, but I hope that in some way it will, even if it might not be as compatible with most ROMs and as easy to install as it is for Android 4.x.

TheHawk002 said:
It isn't an nice initiative at all.
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I was just continuing @beren28 's joke assuming @Sheyla96 would implement it
sorry if looked like I was really asking for ETA

respider said:
I was just continuing @beren28 's joke assuming @Sheyla96 would implement it
sorry if looked like I was really asking for ETA
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FWIW, I thought yours and @beren28's posts were hilarious, and surprised that they could be misunderstood.
@rovo89: Thanks a lot for giving it to us straight and taking the time to explain. Xposed is a miracle that has allowed great customization, even on stock ROMs, and it will be hard to give up. Knowing where we stand at least let's us make informed decisions about whether to upgrade to Lollipop or not.
On the positive side, several of the Xposed modules I use, are for tweaks and features that are included in Lollipop, so there is that too.

Is there any possibility of asking Google for official help on this project. I'd imagine with the help of some Android engineers, things would become a lot simpler. That is of course if Google even agrees in the first place, I don't know their stance on projects like this.
IMO Xposed is the shining highlight of dev projects on Android, it opened up so much for so many without needing a whole new rom, and Rovo89 cannot be expected to shoulder the burden himself now that L makes things much harder. We have so many talented devs here, can we have a call to arms in the open source community to help out?

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Is there any possibility of asking Google for official help on this project. I'd imagine with the help of some Android engineers, things would become a lot simpler. That is of course if Google even agrees in the first place, I don't know their stance on projects like this.
IMO Xposed is the shining highlight of dev projects on Android, it opened up so much for so many without needing a whole new rom, and Rovo89 cannot be expected to shoulder the burden himself now that L makes things much harder. We have so many talented devs here, can we have a call to arms in the open source community to help out?
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I think any help from Google would at best be hard to get. But if it works I think it would make integration with 5.0 easier.

rovo89 said:
So in short: Wait until the final images and source code drop. Then wait again until it's ready.
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First I just want to say thank you so much for all the work you've done! Xposed has turned my Moto G into an even more awesome device.
But to clarify: if we decide to upgrade to Lollipop, does that mean we need to only disable the activated Xposed modules in the meantime, or do we need to completely uninstall the Xposed framework?

But to clarify: if we decide to upgrade to Lollipop, does that mean we need to only disable the activated Xposed modules in the meantime, or do we need to completely uninstall the Xposed framework?
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With Xposed Installer on Neuxs 5, I never could use OTA updates, so when you flash the factory image, it overwrite the system partition, so Xposed is uninstalled. And when you'll try to reinstall it, it will display an error message.

rovo89 said:
... So in short: Wait until the final images and source code drop. Then wait again until it's ready. I can't give any estimation when that will be the case, it depends much on my personal situation. Chance are pretty low that it will be within a month after Lollipop release, and will get higher once I start thinking about flashing a Lollipop ROM myself (which would probably be CM12, and I think these guys won't give us a timeline either, for good reasons). I'm still not 100% sure Xposed for Lollipop will work, but I hope that in some way it will, even if it might not be as compatible with most ROMs and as easy to install as it is for Android 4.x.
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Thanks for the update. Note that current ART has still not compiled for older armv6 architecture. It will have to in order to port Lollipop to such devices. Unless it will still be possible to use a Dalvik JVM in which case, good old Xposed will still be available.

Hello rovo89!
I just wanted to let you know that Xposed is genius and, unfortunately essential for me.
I'm one of the few unlucky people who are using Android with a MVNO, so I need to use XPosed with the National Roaming module to be able to use my Smartphone without the annoying roaming messages.
So with this post I want to say thank you for all the work you did yet!
Of course I'm hopeing that Sony will bring out 5.0 soon to my Z1 and I'm also hopeing that you will find a solution for all the upcoming problems with ART and I'm pretty sure you'll gona solve them!

Probably stay with 4.4.4 and xposed
I have my Nexus 4 set up just the way I want with xposed, gravity box and a couple other modules along with a slew of paid programs that open up lots more functionality that rooting affords . Battery life is as good as it will ever be and when the battery needs replacing, then I will replace it as I have no plans on getting a N6 any time soon. Even though I cheated by rooting with towel-root, I have grown accustomed to using the extra functionality that xposed and rooting has given me. Going to 5.0 will be a royal PITA to get the darn phone back to the way I want, if ever and I don't like the new material theme either - blech! I like xposed and am not truly convinced that lollipop will be better than what I have now.
However, I am an old timey linux user and I have learned long ago, to let others do the "bug-testing" and wait for the first update to the new OS before upgrading, so (5.1?). I remember the chorus of howls that went up when KK came out.
Now I do have a bone-stock unrooted Nexus 7 that will get upgraded to lollipop, so at least I have that to play with and if the new OS is that spectacular, then I will go the route of upgrading (maybe?).

@rovo89
Thanks so much for that clarification of the current status of things. I know what the deal is with Xposed development and would never have dreamed of querying (nagging) you for a status update, though I must admit I have been googling "ART xposed" quite frequently for the past months'ish, eager for any progress reports/updates. Sort of hoping that I would be able to hold off for ~"a couple of weeks" with upgrading to L and then do so with xposed running on ART. Knowing now that it'll be substantially(?) more than the aforementioned couple of weeks, I'll go ahead and take the leap once the final/public release of L drops (since I'm a latest-version-junkie, ho, hum), and I've got until then to adjust to the idea of not having my oh so beloved Xposed modules that have become an integral part of my Android experience. While I'll keep googling "ART xposed", I'll now (soon) be doing so not stuck on KitKat.
And I offer you my respect, admiration and gratitude for what you have created with Xposed (along with the module developers), for what it has done for my stock Nexus 5 and how it has changed my user experience. If Xposed for ART takes a month, a year, or never materializes, I applaud and salute you (and the module developers) for the work you have done so far. Thank you, most sincerely, thank you!
And should you change your policy on taking donations for Xposed, I've got some beer money with your name on it (unless you already have, in which case, what's your paypal?).. Regardless of what the future holds.
While this might probably be one of those posts that could fall under the category of "pressing the thanks button instead of writing a post that spams the thread when the thanks button would have been sufficient", I feel that this is a case of when the thanks button won't express my gratitude enough. And so I'll take my chances.

BathroomTile said:
But to clarify: if we decide to upgrade to Lollipop, does that mean we need to only disable the activated Xposed modules in the meantime, or do we need to completely uninstall the Xposed framework?
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Definitely uninstall the framework (and anything else you may have installed on /system) if you'll be running the Lollipop OTA.
Personally I'll be using the opportunity to do a clean install. This is a big update.

Sorry for the spam, @rovo89, but I just wanted to thank you personally in words - I literally cannot use a device without Xposed any more! Guys like you inspire me to hack a bit on my own too! Cheers!

rovo89 said:
I still don't have time and motivation to work on Xposed as I used to, but I'm slowly starting again (no promises though).
When I find the time and motivation, I will try to work on ART support. I will probably not be here and report about it though.
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What if there were some sort of donations available for your work on updating Xposed?. I know xposed is free, but could you set up a donation by app in Google Play store or through PayPal which would be directly for the work of xposed for Android L/ART? I'm sure there would be a lot of people who would be willing to put in some support for the work that you do. Just a suggestion

Give us Xposed now! No excuses! Just kidding, take your time but as mentioned many times, some people (including myself) only need the art framework to completly switch to art, that's the only thing what's holding us back. I not understand the argument art is beta, I guess if you see it that way the whole android is beta because there are almost daily changes.
If you need any help, testers and such let us know, but it's hard without any concept, so I hope you can show us some source and concepts soon.
Thanks for your hard work. We all waiting for 'final' sources to get our hands on.

Well, whether or not we'll ever see Xposed from Lollypop on, I must say that I understand your demotivation, and as much as I'd love to see it going forwards, what I have to give you is nothing but a big and warm thank you for giving Andoid users even more power over their phones and creating the most flexible framework there is. Kudos.

Advantages of rooting/custom ROM Android 7.0+ before Xposed release?

Hey guys,
Long time xposed module user from android 4 through 6. I just got a new (used) Nexus 5X and am considering downgrading to Marshmallow so that I can get xposed back.
Why do people even bother hacking 7.0+ if you can't run xposed? I get that you can use custom firmware with some nice customization, but I feel like 90% of the value of rooting my phone is in xposed. Minminguard, for example, is something I can't live without; adblocking apps is probably the nicest feature I can imagine. Several other custom xposed-only apps as well.
So... what do you all think? Run android 7+ without xposed while waiting for someone kind enough to release xposed module for it, or stay android 6.0 forever to take advantage of the amazing app library within xposed module?

Plenty of advantages. The Google assistant is available without xposed on 7.0 and 7.1 roms. You can now reply to text messages from your notification screen, and delete emails even when you have multiple messages there. Xposed will be great once we get it, but there's plenty of stuff about nougat that makes it worth it.

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Plenty of advantages. The Google assistant is available without xposed on 7.0 and 7.1 roms. You can now reply to text messages from your notification screen, and delete emails even when you have multiple messages there. Xposed will be great once we get it, but there's plenty of stuff about nougat that makes it worth it.
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Any other benefits? Im on the same boat as OP, dont see much benefit without xposed atm.

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Hello, I´m on the same boat than you, I updated to Nougat just to give it a try but I come back to Marshmallow only for Xposed, all the features from Nougat are not enough for me without Xposed.

Yeah, yeah, wait for Xposed Nougat. Will be realeased in 2195.
People, let's get real! There won't be any Xposed for Nougat. Even if will be released, it will happen so late it would be useless - Android 8 will be the word by then and everyone will ask for Xposed Oreo.

varioventus said:
Yeah, yeah, wait for Xposed Nougat. Will be realeased in 2195.
People, let's get real! There won't be any Xposed for Nougat. Even if will be released, it will happen so late it would be useless - Android 8 will be the word by then and everyone will ask for Xposed Oreo.
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People have been saying this since 5.0. Xposed for Nougat is basically done already, just needs small fixes.

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Wow.. How did you take such a long screenshot? Looks awesome!

Greatness_GH said:
Wow.. How did you take such a long screenshot? Looks awesome!
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ABotelho23 said:
People have been saying this since 5.0. Xposed for Nougat is basically done already, just needs small fixes.
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Small fixes every month.

Greatness_GH said:
Wow.. How did you take such a long screenshot? Looks awesome!
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With S7 is also possible.
Sent from my S7.
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Yeah, yeah, wait for Xposed Nougat. Will be realeased in 2195.
People, let's get real! There won't be any Xposed for Nougat. Even if will be released, it will happen so late it would be useless - Android 8 will be the word by then and everyone will ask for Xposed Oreo.
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There will be an Xposed for Nougat! You think it's easy to make Xposed working on new Android versions why don't you make it yourself then? Even Samsung and other manufacturers need months to update to new Android versions because of the many changes Google added. If it works good Rovo release it if you don't want to wait no problem but then why are you in an Xposed thread? You have no respect to Xposed dev while he does it for free.
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robuser007 said:
Small fixes every month.
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You do understand the source code is out there right? If you're so impatient you should to and make it compatible yourself. This isn't a paid product from a commercial company; you literally have NO right to complain.

FlemishDroid said:
There will be an Xposed for Nougat! You think it's easy to make Xposed working on new Android versions why don't you pake it yourself then? Even Samsung and other manufacturers need months to update to new Android versions because of the many changes Google added. If it works good Rovo release it if you don't want to wait no problem but then why are you in an Xposed thread? You have no respect to Xposed dev while he does it for free.
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Thank you. Couldn't have agreed more.

There will be an Xposed for Nougat!
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Not very probably. Google constantly makes changes against Xposed and other hacking tools...

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With S7 is also possible.
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There will be an Xposed for Nougat! You think it's easy to make Xposed working on new Android versions why don't you make it yourself then? Even Samsung and other manufacturers need months to update to new Android versions because of the many changes Google added. If it works good Rovo release it if you don't want to wait no problem but then why are you in an Xposed thread? You have no respect to Xposed dev while he does it for free.
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Please, keep your respect lessons for your kids.
I presume you're personal with Robert, you've called him and he told you he's working hard on Xposed Nougat.
Robert have the right to live a life, outside of xposed. That means he have the right to NOT realese any new version of the framework if that would require an amount of work too heavy for one single developer.

If anyone is interested you could use DualBootPatcher to test things out. I'm using DualBootPatcher with stock MIUI based on MM as primary ROM and Lineage 14.1 as data slot ROM, so I can test it out. So far Lineage seems nice but a lack of Xposed is very limiting.

ABotelho23 said:
People have been saying this since 5.0. Xposed for Nougat is basically done already, just needs small fixes.
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ABotelho23 said:
You do understand the source code is out there right? If you're so impatient you should to and make it compatible yourself. This isn't a paid product from a commercial company; you literally have NO right to complain.
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I mean google makes (security) changes every month.
The dev's have to face new issues every month this way!

robuser007 said:
Small fixes every month.
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You know it was hollydays for christmas and new year, right?
Rovo have a life outside Xposed...
Just wait by march tops it's out..

ABotelho23 said:
People have been saying this since 5.0. Xposed for Nougat is basically done already, just needs small fixes.
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...and you would know this how?

justaway2 said:
...and you would know this how?
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Devs last update stated hooks were generally working, which is the core function of what Xposed offers to modules. Of course it's partially an assumption, but we also have to consider he's got a life and isn't getting paid for Xposed.

[PSA] [WARNING] rovo89 does NOT encourage the use of Xposed on Nougat

https://github.com/rovo89/Xposed/issues/230#issuecomment-316560803
His official and technical stance on this.

Wait other 9 month to his release then..

bill_kevin said:
Wait other 9 month to his release then..
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9 months? First N build appeared last August, so more like 11 and very close to an entire year have passed.
At his pace, it will probably take years, and to be honest I don't expect him releasing anything else anymore (I'd be gratefully surprised).

riahc3 said:
https://github.com/rovo89/Xposed/issues/230#issuecomment-316560803
His official and technical stance on this.
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I respect Rovo, but ppl should do what ever they want in a opensource environment.
Even though he point out all the issues and technical details to call it a hack (i call it a fork though) i failure to see the harm of ppl to use it.

i dont think people should be discouraged to try the unofficial build..
after all its their own device to try.. and its the risk they decide to take (though i suspect many of them do not know enough to realise that)..
but, they should be warned..
i would view the statement from rovo89 a kind of disclaimer, so that those blind idiots (i dont mean all those who try are, but undoubtedly a handful among them are eligible candidates) would be alerted who not to blame after running into trouble..

I tried Xposed with Android N and I can tell you that a lot doesn't work. Everything keeps crashing all the time, at least for me. You should not be surprised when your ROM keeps failing everywhere. I use my phone on daily basis so for me it was a no go, but still always test just out of curiosity I always make a backup and test for fun so I can go back to my stable build

It sounds funny that @rovo89 is discouraging people from using that Xposed Nougat fork due to its "reliability", being Xposed itself not as reliable as everyone wants - at least its installation, there's always that risk of bricking the phone.
I mean, everyone here respects @rovo89 for his work on Xposed, but I think people installing that fork know they're playing at their own risk: it hasn't @rovo89's quality check, it is not an official release, it's unstable...
Yes, people should be warned, it's nice from him to remind that to that fork's developers, but don't discourage people for doing what they want. After all, that's how they got to Xposed in the first place. And he should remember that if he's having a hard time on getting ready Xposed for Nougat, is because Google is discouraging all things that are supposed to be a risk for our phones - that includes Xposed Framework.

by the time the first xposed was launched i installed it
my phone got 1/10th of it's performance
I had to press it 3 times to unlock once
I had to download a new app to answer the phone
almost all updates bricked my phone
some settings from modules bricked it too
and it was my daily driver
and I didn't stop
I know, out there that there are a lot of persons willing to do sacrifices like me
this release is for us

Hm. To be honest, I somehow didn't believe in Xposed for Nougat anymore. Maybe Xposed is really done with after Marshmallow and we simply have to accept that.

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Hm. To be honest, I somehow didn't believe in Xposed for Nougat anymore. Maybe Xposed is really done with after Marshmallow and we simply have to accept that.
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How is it done if it has a alpha for N?

I dunno when rovo89 release his xposed nougat or when he can fix all the bugs
But , If you , a noob , cant build xposed or make commit in github by yourself , then enjoy unofficial build by ErnyTech .
It is really stable . No bugs found . No crashes apps . No random reboot .
Almost bugs fixed
His build is a really good choice for you while wait for rovo89 official nougat build

I understand, that rovo89 is not happy about an unstable buggy version of Xposed for Nougat. This is comprehensible, because he's a perfectionist, but it also leads to problems. He doesn't accept somebodys help.
Don't get me wrong, rovo89 deserves so much respect for creating Xposed, such an awesome piece of software! But because of his perfectionism, it takes so long until an official release of Xposed for a new Android version, but the people want it now. Even though this sounds ungrateful, the consequence is, that other capable developers give a try on their own unofficial builds, this is comprehensible.
We already had such a case back in the time of Android Lollipop. Android 5.1 Lollipop was released for some time, but there was only an official Xposed for 5.0 Lollipop. So romracer came along and released an unofficial Xposed for Lollipop 5.1, which was very stable. So the people used it and loved it.
rovo89 doesn't want to incur liabilities, that's OK. But he's also very reticent, too reticent in my opinion. Maybe he should accept help and not blame others for unofficial releases.
These are just my thoughts about the situation.

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How is it done if it has a alpha for N?
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Read Rovo89's statement.
It doesn't seem a project he has any time for, and the alpha versions right now seem mighty unstable and lacking months of work.
I am happily proven wrong.

Sörnäinen said:
Read Rovo89's statement.
It doesn't seem a project he has any time for, and the alpha versions right now seem mighty unstable and lacking months of work.
I am happily proven wrong.
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Any alpha is unstable, but it's working but need heavy polish.
As Rovo work.. i understand he doesen't have the time anymore.. but the forks are there to eventualy replace it if Rovo just can't have the time anymore.

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Any alpha is unstable, but it's working but need heavy polish.
As Rovo work.. i understand he doesen't have the time anymore.. but the forks are there to eventualy replace it if Rovo just can't have the time anymore.
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Exactly.
I don't think it will happen, but if rovo89 doesn't have time or motivation anymore, the whole Xposed project maybe could fade over to the community.

Bounty for Xposed on Pie

I'm putting up a $1000 bounty right now for Xposed on Pie (have a Pixel 3) in the next 2 months.
If someone knows where I can deposit that in escrow, let me know. Otherwise it's here and sitting to be grabbed.
Don't know if it will help but it's a carrot on a stick to start

Awesome, I'm adding another 25 dollars

chrisf8657 said:
I'm putting up a $1000 bounty right now for Xposed on Pie (have a Pixel 3) in the next 2 months.
If someone knows where I can deposit that in escrow, let me know. Otherwise it's here and sitting to be grabbed.
Don't know if it will help but it's a carrot on a stick to start
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Awesome, I'm adding another 25 dollars
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I'm broke so I can't donate all that much but for those that can, here's the official Xposed donation link. Hopefully it's okay with @rovo89 for me to post this.

chrisf8657 said:
I'm putting up a $1000 bounty right now for Xposed on Pie (have a Pixel 3) in the next 2 months.
If someone knows where I can deposit that in escrow, let me know. Otherwise it's here and sitting to be grabbed.
Don't know if it will help but it's a carrot on a stick to start
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Go here
https://www.bountysource.com/

You know that the code for Xposed for Oreo has not been published right? Bounty is not going to change anything because no one will write Xposed for Pie from scratch. Nobody except rovo89 can do something about it unless he publishes the source code. It would be better to contact him, check if he is still on it and then donate to him directly.

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You know that the code for Xposed for Oreo has not been published right? Bounty is not going to change anything because no one will write Xposed for Pie from scratch. Nobody except rovo89 can do something about it unless he publishes the source code. It would be better to contact him, check if he is still on it and then donate to him directly.
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He does not have the time. He that that money is not the issue. Better would be if he releases the code.

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He does not have the time. He that that money is not the issue. Better would be if he releases the code.
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He won't release the code, because the last time he did (for M), romracer and others built a half-assed version for N (which HELPED port all modules to N before the official release). He wants total control and this is not only meaning that Xposed is dead unless he returns full motivated, it also means that the latest releases sources are not available and who knows if rovo sold the mod to some malware deliver company (I believe and hope not, but this is just an scenario), which could use xposed as a malware rootkit (it has potential).
I mean, in the end, rovo has no time/motivation for this project and doesn't want to share it, so we're better off asuming it is dead forever.

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He won't release the code, because the last time he did (for M), romracer and others built a half-assed version for N (which HELPED port all modules to N before the official release). He wants total control and this is not only meaning that Xposed is dead unless he returns full motivated, it also means that the latest releases sources are not available and who knows if rovo sold the mod to some malware deliver company (I believe and hope not, but this is just an scenario), which could use xposed as a malware rootkit (it has potential).
I mean, in the end, rovo has no time/motivation for this project and doesn't want to share it, so we're better off asuming it is dead forever.
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All i know is that most moved on already. The only module i miss on my main phone is Kmod

@Pupet_Master is right imo! Only the "hardest" of the harcore users of android still want xposed.
People learned to live without it and the reality is that devs are losing interest in mantaining support for the "nevercoming" updates.
Dont get me wrong, I think that xposed gave kitkat, lollipop and marshmallow a much richer experience and performance, but after nougat, android itself started to implement thoose missing features so xposed started to be pointless, at least for me.

littlejonny17 said:
@Pupet_Master is right imo! Only the "hardest" of the harcore users of android still want xposed.
People learned to live without it and the reality is that devs are losing interest in mantaining support for the "nevercoming" updates.
Dont get me wrong, I think that xposed gave kitkat, lollipop and marshmallow a much richer experience and performance, but after nougat, android itself started to implement thoose missing features so xposed started to be pointless, at least for me.
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It is not about features. I could do without every module except xprivacylua. I won't ever use Android without it. We clould try to gather a huge bounty to get somebody create something from scratch.
I would also donate at least 150$.

HyperCriSiS said:
It is not about features. I could do without every module except xprivacylua. I won't ever use Android without it. We clould try to gather a huge bounty to get somebody create something from scratch.
I would also donate at least 150$.
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I guess you do not have confidence in the apps that you have installed on your phone but yeah, maybe that's the most valid excuse for using xposed.

littlejonny17 said:
I guess you do not have confidence in the apps that you have installed on your phone but yeah, maybe that's the most valid excuse for using xposed.
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It is also a principle thing. These days you shouldn't trust anyone that has the possibility to collect data.

HyperCriSiS said:
It is not about features. I could do without every module except xprivacylua. I won't ever use Android without it. We clould try to gather a huge bounty to get somebody create something from scratch.
I would also donate at least 150$.
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Sorry but i don't get the logic of that.
First, bounty will mean nothing if the modules devs already moved on. 2nd let's face it, bounty also means nothing of no one is in touch with the only person that can make it happen, Rovo.
Also, custom ROMs do almost everything that Xposed used to do now days. Not to mention that Xposed isn't perfect. It allow modules to expand the framework of android, how ever, it bog down the performance.
There is an app called Wakeblock that do everything that an Xposed module would do but is stand alone. I see the old devs from Xposed modules moving on to this sort of thing.
I still, to be honest, don't get the logic of need Xposed and never use android without it if you literary miss no module from it except one that any LOS ROM based already do by default.

Any news on Xposed Pie, I'm missing great modules like exi, edge etc. I think I should downgrade to oreo
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I'm not going to donate that money as one poster posted, it's a bounty. Gets paid when someone does the job and claims it , but according to much more knowledgeable posters no source is available.
The only thing I miss is the gravity box tweaks. I'm rooted so any alternatives?
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I have many xposed modules that I can hardly live without. Instant face unlock is the one I used the most.

There is one thing that is impossible with Magisk, to the best of my knowledge, that is critical for me: Setting device locale (language) on a per-app basis. No, changing it before launching and then switching back on close is not an option. No, setting multiple locales does nothing useful, pretty much no apps use this feature, and especially the ones I need it for do not.
And no, custom roms can't do that either, and Google has been ignoring numerous requests to do that for a decade, because they discriminate against multilingual people, since multilingual people are not a nationality, which apparently makes it okay.

Ed Xposed can be used on Pie.Although some modules have compatibility issues. Link: https://github.com/solohsu/EdXposed

magisk does not have xposed module ?

chrisf8657 said:
I'm not going to donate that money as one poster posted, it's a bounty. Gets paid when someone does the job and claims it , but according to much more knowledgeable posters no source is available.
The only thing I miss is the gravity box tweaks. I'm rooted so any alternatives?
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Have you?
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OnePlus 6T Android Q beta thoughts

Hey guys! Just flashed the Android Q beta and have some thoughts:
First of all for some reason OnePlus removed navigation gestures, there isn't even the original OnePlus gestures. Common, that should have been easy to add.
Since OnePlus made the fingerprint work I assumed dash charging would work too, but this isn't the case.
I've seen people complain about not being heard on calls, but that works for me, the real problem is I can't send a text message, no matter what SMS app I use.
When fully powering off the phone it takes an absurd amount of time to shut down, it says "shutting down.." for a good 20 seconds.
Besides these issues everything works fine, I flashed TWRP and Magisk and will be trying this out, I hope they release some updates because as of now this isn't really usable as a daily driver.

Already a thread of Q here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/oneplus-6t-androidq-beta-release-links-t3928174

peanutpajamas said:
Hey guys! Just flashed the Android Q beta and have some thoughts:
First of all for some reason OnePlus removed navigation gestures, there isn't even the original OnePlus gestures. Common, that should have been easy to add.
Since OnePlus made the fingerprint work I assumed dash charging would work too, but this isn't the case.
I've seen people complain about not being heard on calls, but that works for me, the real problem is I can't send a text message, no matter what SMS app I use.
When fully powering off the phone it takes an absurd amount of time to shut down, it says "shutting down.." for a good 20 seconds.
Besides these issues everything works fine, I flashed TWRP and Magisk and will be trying this out, I hope they release some updates because as of now this isn't really usable as a daily driver.
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you can text if you send a screenshot or pic attached to it then the text goes through no matter what messaging app u use

bradhoschar said:
Already a thread of Q here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/oneplus-6t-androidq-beta-release-links-t3928174
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I thought that was just the links..

My thoughts are this sucks and op should be ashamed of themselves.they released a backport

This isn't meant as a daily driver [emoji19] it's not a beta build, it's a Dev build. Buggy as hell, no features, just a first try.
The only bad thing OnePlus did is releasing it to all because most users are to stupid to understand.

superiscch said:
The only bad thing OnePlus did is releasing it to all because most users are to stupid to understand.
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This needs to be in bold with a size font of like 50.
For those of you in here complaining, that are too damn lazy to read, put some effort into reading this. Quoted from the release thread:
As the name suggests, this build of Android Q is best suited for developers and early adopters. As it is still in an early stage of development. That said, we do not recommend flashing this ROM if you have little to no experience in software development or flashing custom ROMs. Proceed at your own RISK!
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superiscch said:
This isn't meant as a daily driver [emoji19] it's not a beta build, it's a Dev build. Buggy as hell, no features, just a first try.
The only bad thing OnePlus did is releasing it to all because most users are to stupid to understand.
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I think your right to a certain extent, but I also feel like lately OnePlus hasn't been doing what they have become known for, oneplus users want fast updates to try out the latest of Android.
this build while intended for development was made with very little thought, most other OEMs on the list actually made it useable, take essential for example, yes there are a few bugs but it can send a text and doesn't crash when you click on auto brightness. Even though it was for "devs".
OnePlus could have definitely done a better job at this, very dissatisfied.

SpasilliumNexus said:
This needs to be in bold with a size font of like 50.
For those of you in here complaining, that are too damn lazy to read, put some effort into reading this. Quoted from the release thread:
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No we are not too dumb to read and I understand how a " developer preview" works. I had 4 developer previews with P on my essential last year. Even the first two of that weren't very good but at least stable, especially if u or anyone have run or tried any of the Google gsi's or pixel Q gsi port of the last preview. What we are saying is why did they take away things that were already fixed and working and give us this crap. It's a slap to the face to release a less stable version than what is already out there. Me and protodevano made our own version of a Q ified vendor and in doing so could flash those said ROMs. This crap is clearly backwards movement and is the reason so many of us are irritated. It's not cuz we can't read or understand. OnePlus messed up and was late to the game and clearly hurried up with whatever dumb thing they could to catch up to the other oems and turn in something for the masses. Completely clueless everyone else would have more stable versions. That is fair to be annoyed at.
Lastly in regards to their last part. I probably have more experience in flashing, manipulating firmware, and dissecting, and decrypting all types of firmware
Than most people on the fajita threads.i wrote the book on gsi flashing with the essential. I fixed the volte issues for users. I made Oreo ROMs emulate pie for Shamu with rounded UI.. I'm the guy people look to when they would like to know if something is possible. I push the limits. This Q is not even possible to push anything with. And a piss poor representation. Don't make excuses if u didn't try any other Q ROMs before yesterday's OnePlus release.

fullofhell said:
No we are not too dumb to read and I understand how a " developer preview" works. I had 4 developer previews with P on my essential last year. Even the first two of that weren't very good but at least stable, especially if u or anyone have run or tried any of the Google gsi's or pixel Q gsi port of the last preview. What we are saying is why did they take away things that were already fixed and working and give us this crap. It's a slap to the face to release a less stable version than what is already out there. Me and protodevano made our own version of a Q ified vendor and in doing so could flash those said ROMs. This crap is clearly backwards movement and is the reason so many of us are irritated. It's not cuz we can't read or understand. OnePlus messed up and was late to the game and clearly hurried up with whatever dumb thing they could to catch up to the other oems and turn in something for the masses. Completely clueless everyone else would have more stable versions. That is fair to be annoyed at.
Lastly in regards to their last part. I probably have more experience in flashing, manipulating firmware, and dissecting, and decrypting all types of firmware
Than most people on the fajita threads.i wrote the book on gsi flashing with the essential. I fixed the volte issues for users. I made Oreo ROMs emulate pie for Shamu with rounded UI.. I'm the guy people look to when they would like to know if something is possible. I push the limits. This Q is not even possible to push anything with. And a piss poor representation. Don't make excuses if u didn't try any other Q ROMs before yesterday's OnePlus release.
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Don't argue with fanboys.
They can't see beyond OnePlus is best shyte..

If anyone want to see a video or a quick look than check this
https://youtu.be/Yhw6463pTPg

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PatrickLoewer said:
Has someone problems going back to custom roms?
I downgraded to the Pie Image linked in the OnePlus Android Q official post. This is working fine, i can boot and flash TWRP as well, but as soon as i install any room i go straight back to "Qualcom CrashDump Mode".
Tried the original fastboot partitions from "rom-stock-fastboot-roms-oneplus-6t" aswell, those are working fine for me as well. But soon as i flash any custom rom (tried 3 different ones) i go straight into the "Qualcom CrashDump Mode" (fastboot is no longer working after that so i have to use the MSM Tool to restore the phone).
Tried dirty flashing or a complete clean flash (wiping all partitions except Internal Storage) both result in the same Qualcom Crash screen.
Using the MSM Tool gets me a working Pie everytime, also using the original fastboot rooms works as well, it's only custom roms .... (tried with and without flashing magisk/opengapps)
Edit: International Version, no T-Mobile or McLaren Edition
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It's cuz u still have one slot Q. When u install a rom it goes to that slot. From a booted up os, reboot to twrp, flash the pie downgrade zip again, then format, u should be good.or the quicker route would be use msm

fullofhell said:
It's cuz u still have one slot Q. When u install a rom it goes to that slot. From a booted up os, reboot to twrp, flash the pie downgrade zip again, then format, u should be good.or the quicker route would be use msm
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Was not the problem, but the MSM Tool didn't worked with the version i had.

indian84 said:
Don't argue with fanboys.
They can't see beyond OnePlus is best shyte..
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Cute attempt at the assumption, but you're far from getting that one right. Try again.

SpasilliumNexus said:
Cute attempt at the assumption, but you're far from getting that one right. Try again.
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Burnnnnn

fullofhell said:
--WoT--
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No matter how buggy or broken they are, they are meant for developers to adapt software and hardware on them before final builds are out to the general public. Not for randoms to treat them as finals, as few here and a lot on the OP forums have done.

I just rebooted the phone. It says to enter in a PIN and none of the PINS that I normally use work. What are my options now that I can't get past the PIN setup to start Android?

Xpiatio said:
I just rebooted the phone. It says to enter in a PIN and none of the PINS that I normally use work. What are my options now that I can't get past the PIN setup to start Android?
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Fairly sure you have to wipe and not choose "secure startup" (or similar) in the set up. That feature (encryption) is not working currently.

They could make a PRE-Alpha build, say DO NOT INSTALL THIS, and zillions of lDIOTS would download it because they want the latest update, no matter what, THEN, will get on here, OP's website and other places to complain about it.
It's like these clowns hanging out windows, rail cars and what not to get a selfie so they can get "likes"....lDIOTS