I tried and failed to pay with my rooted phone recently.
When I put my phone on the NFC pad, Android Pay popped up and told me that I can't pay with it because my phone it rooted.
Actually, I prefer Google Wallet over Android Pay, but it seems Android Pay just disables Google Wallet. Is there a way to disable Android Pay?
I deleted "Android Pay" app before. I checked that it is not in my all app list. Somehow it can still pop up.
Not sure if you noticed, but Google made the decision recently to separate Google Wallet into two separate apps. Wallet is now used only to send money to people, and Android Pay is required now to do NFC payments. As far as I know, there is no fix currently for rooted devices to use it as I have the problem as well. It's a shame too because I used NFC payments all the time before they changed the app.
Please though, if someone knows of a workaround to get Android Pay working I'd love you forever. I tried some of the suggestions in other threads saying to hide your root access and such, but none of it has worked so far.
beansNcornflakes said:
Not sure if you noticed, but Google made the decision recently to separate Google Wallet into two separate apps. Wallet is now used only to send money to people, and Android Pay is required now to do NFC payments. As far as I know, there is no fix currently for rooted devices to use it as I have the problem as well. It's a shame too because I used NFC payments all the time before they changed the app.
Please though, if someone knows of a workaround to get Android Pay working I'd love you forever. I tried some of the suggestions in other threads saying to hide your root access and such, but none of it has worked so far.
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Neither do they worked for me. I tried temporarily turning off root, RootBlock and No Device Check
Hello All,
I got my Note 8 the other day and want to get some apps disabled. I got Package Disabler working just fine, but want to know what people are freezing on their devices.
I know on my S8+ I froze a TON of apps and processes, but on the Note 8, I want to keep a few functions such as samsung pay/android paid, bixby and perhaps a few more, but just wanted to see who's doing what.
I started my own list of the apps on the Note8 using Package Disabler but then switched to BK Disabler since I couldn't get PK working after I downloaded their paid plugin.
I still have to load up the Bloatware and System apps listed and then will start removing stuff. But I know that I'll keep Samsung Pay, Air Command etc. Not sure about Bixby. I still haven't tried it out to fully decide if I want to keep using it or not.
Yeah this is my first carrier branded phone in years an my first Sammy so I would appreciate a list of things that can be disabled....
Well, part of the problem is different carriers have different bloat, so maybe include carrier in your list.
Go ing to try tthis o it.
I got a rooted (including eDxposed) Galaxy Note 10 Plus (N975F) and planning to buy the GW3 from the USA.
So far I am able to make the phone pass safetynet, work with Gpay. Samsung Health works thanks to the modified apk from xda.
Samsung pay doesn't work on the phone.
As my phones is rooted - Will I be able to use Samsung Pay on the watch? What about ECG, BP and other fitness measurements?
P.S. To the mods - I am not sure if this is the right forum for this question. I wasn't able to find any other GW3 Q&A forum. Please kindly move it to the right forum if this is not it. Thanks.
I have also a rooted phone and wonder if Samsung Pay, ECG, BP and other fitness measurements can be used or not with a rooted phone
I have the same problem, any solution? I was able to have the health monitor app in the watch, but I can't use it as the phone app says my galaxy is rooted.
This may be slightly irrelevant to you, but I'll share my experience. I have the Galaxy Watch 3 paired to a OnePlus 7 Pro, rooted with Magisk, passing safetyNet.
ECG is not working for me (not available in my region).
Samsung Pay is not working for me. I tested with friends' Samsung phones and they don't have Samsung Pay either (therefore not available in my region so I can't test).
I've read on the forums that ECG is not working with rooted Samsung phones. Rooting a Samsung (or unlocking the bootloader, generally) trips KNOX. If you have KNOX tripped, people reported ECG not working and Samsung Pay getting disabled as well. This happened in THE UNITED STATES where ECG and Samsung Pay are usually working.
Don't take my word for it though, read it for yourself
TermoZour said:
This may be slightly irrelevant to you, but I'll share my experience. I have the Galaxy Watch 3 paired to a OnePlus 7 Pro, rooted with Magisk, passing safetyNet.
ECG is not working for me (not available in my region).
Samsung Pay is not working for me. I tested with friends' Samsung phones and they don't have Samsung Pay either (therefore not available in my region so I can't test).
I've read on the forums that ECG is not working with rooted Samsung phones. Rooting a Samsung (or unlocking the bootloader, generally) trips KNOX. If you have KNOX tripped, people reported ECG not working and Samsung Pay getting disabled as well. This happened in THE UNITED STATES where ECG and Samsung Pay are usually working.
Don't take my word for it though, read it for yourself
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I have one plus 7 pro with magisk and galaxy watch 3 too... I can use galaxy watch 3 as well, no problem. but when I try to use samsung health monıtor app (installed as apk seperately) it says ''samsung healt monıtor does not work with rooted phone''. safety net passed, magisk hide is on and magisk manager packed with different name. no luck
If you have knox tripped phone:
1) rooted :
- samsung pay (watch) not working
- shealth working (including sync!!!) when ro.config.tima fixed using magisk and magisk configbuild module
- samsung health monitor not working
- btw gpay working using sqlfix magisk module
2) unrooted/official/relocked bootloader:
- samsung pay (watch) working
- shealth working partialy (no sync), to use latest version find xpirt patched version, install it, open, agree to terms...then download latest apk on apkpure, install SAI from google store, settings -> sign apks.. install/update using latest apk using SAI.. now you have latest shealth with no online sync working (so forget 3rd party integrations.. google fit, xiomi scale...)
-health monitor working, but doesnt sync with shealth
Search xda for details if confused..
doclucas said:
I got a rooted (including eDxposed) Galaxy Note 10 Plus (N975F) and planning to buy the GW3 from the USA.
So far I am able to make the phone pass safetynet, work with Gpay. Samsung Health works thanks to the modified apk from xda.
Samsung pay doesn't work on the phone.
As my phones is rooted - Will I be able to use Samsung Pay on the watch? What about ECG, BP and other fitness measurements?
P.S. To the mods - I am not sure if this is the right forum for this question. I wasn't able to find any other GW3 Q&A forum. Please kindly move it to the right forum if this is not it. Thanks.
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Samsung pay watch depends on samsung pay on phone, so if the phone isn't working, you can't use it...
S Health works fine since it's tima in build.prop set from 1 to 0...
However, the BP and ECG in Samsung health monitor, you can grab my modified apk and it will work, the app is guarded against root, not just tima in build.prop, but root apps, busybox, xposed and su commands...
Hope that helps...
Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Rooted with Galaxy Watch 3...
@Dante63
Thank you.
I already have the watch.
Samsung pay actually works just fine through the watch, although the Spay on the phone doesn't work due to tripped knox.
I tried your modified SHM on the Samsung phone, but it seems to not only check for root, but on Samsung phone it also checks for Knox and then exits with the error that the phone has been modified.
Is there anything you can do to fix it so that it will also skip knox check?
Thanks again
doclucas said:
@Dante63
Thank you.
I already have the watch.
Samsung pay actually works just fine through the watch, although the Spay on the phone doesn't work due to tripped knox.
I tried your modified SHM on the Samsung phone, but it seems to not only check for root, but on Samsung phone it also checks for Knox and then exits with the error that the phone has been modified.
Is there anything you can do to fix it so that it will also skip knox check?
Thanks again
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SPay works?
EDIT: Yes it does, good catch... thanks for the info...
As for SHM, then i might have not seen tima and it actually checks build.prop... did you change your build.prop, set tima from 1 to 0 and reboot...? Does your Samsung Health work..?
Yes, I changed build.prop and SH works, but SHM doesn't. Can you fix this?
doclucas said:
Yes, I changed build.prop and SH works, but SHM doesn't. Can you fix this?
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Just to be sure, you grabbed the files from my google drive...?
If you grabbed the Carabana Mod from androidfilehost, that has root detection...
OK, what's the link and which file should I grab?
@Dante63
Just wanted to thank you for modifying the file and removing the root detection.
I downloaded it from your drive and it works perfectly!
[RESTRICTIONS-REMOVED] Samsung Health Monitor - TIZEN - 1.1.3.002 - Root, Age, Country & Device Restriction Removed - 23rd May 2023
Hello Everyone, I hope you all are fine... ~~~ TIZEN WATCHES ONLY ~~~ ~~~ FEATURES, BUGS & FUTURE WORKS~~~ FEATURES: Works on Active2 and Watch3 (as mentioned, Samsung Tizen Watches), Multilanguage, no root detection, no country restriction...
forum.xda-developers.com
doclucas said:
@Dante63
Just wanted to thank you for modifying the file and removing the root detection.
I downloaded it from your drive and it works perfectly!
[RESTRICTIONS-REMOVED] Samsung Health Monitor - TIZEN - 1.1.3.002 - Root, Age, Country & Device Restriction Removed - 23rd May 2023
Hello Everyone, I hope you all are fine... ~~~ TIZEN WATCHES ONLY ~~~ ~~~ FEATURES, BUGS & FUTURE WORKS~~~ FEATURES: Works on Active2 and Watch3 (as mentioned, Samsung Tizen Watches), Multilanguage, no root detection, no country restriction...
forum.xda-developers.com
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You're most welcome ...
@Dante63
I know it's off-topic, but is it possible to remove root/knox detection from Samsung pay app as well? (the one for the phone, not for the watch)
doclucas said:
@Dante63
I know it's off-topic, but is it possible to remove root/knox detection from Samsung pay app as well? (the one for the phone, not for the watch)
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Samsung pay and any banking apps are heavily guarded against tempering and modifications, so it's not possible...
Dante63 said:
Samsung pay and any banking apps are heavily guarded against tempering and modifications, so it's not possible...
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Yes, and still we can get safety-net to pass with the new safetynet-fix magisk module, hide magisk from other apps (including all my banking apps) and able to use them and google pay without a problem now, except for Samsung Pay app. What makes this app so special compared to the other apps I mentioned?
doclucas said:
Yes, and still we can get safety-net to pass with the new safetynet-fix magisk module, hide magisk from other apps (including all my banking apps) and able to use them and google pay without a problem now, except for Samsung Pay app. What makes this app so special compared to the other apps I mentioned?
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Samsung Pay rely on several Samsung services and framework apks which are also guarded against tampering and have root detection which is not the safety net...
Root detection comes in forms of apps installed, as you can see from Samsung Health monitor, it also would attempt to look for busybox and attempt to call "su" which is Linux command to get root access and try mounting partitions which all on success would trigger flag rooted...
So Samsung pay has additional protections aside the Samsung Health Monitor ways, it is also guarded like all banking apps with encoded strings, in other words, things you don't know what they stand for and the apps names get encoded to be compared with the provided...
Also, as long in download mode it shows custom and not official, Samsung pay won't work, it is not linked to the knox trip since official Samsung ROM works fine with everything despite the device was rooted before, knox now is mainly for voiding warranty...
I'm not much of an expert in this so some of what I said about know and Samsung pay may not be accurate...
The only things I'm sure about is how strongly they are secure against tampering and detection of root in different forms which even by having a folder named "magisk" on the internal memory believe it or not...
Thanks for the thorough and modest answer.
I personally want to believe that nothing is impossible, I guess it's only a matter of time until this will also get hacked.
The only question is - who will really want to use a hacked samsung pay app when it may contain some malwares or god knows what...
doclucas said:
Thanks for the thorough and modest answer.
I personally want to believe that nothing is impossible, I guess it's only a matter of time until this will also get hacked.
The only question is - who will really want to use a hacked samsung pay app when it may contain some malwares or god knows what...
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I'd rather not use modified apps related to banks and cards or anything sensitive... there is a reason why they tightened the security on them but SMH or apps that have no important info, well I don't mind if my BP or ECG is leaked lol...