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Tilt Battery Drain During Phone Calls

OK, I know battery life is always an issue with PDA phones. I'm never far from a charger. I'm fine as long as I'm just checking e-mail (4 accounts, once an hour) and a little light web surfing with Opera Mini.
The problem arises when I use my phone as...well...a phone.
My Tilt loses battery power at an alarming rate when I'm talking on the phone. A 20 minute conversation will easily cost me 40% of my battery.
I'm usually in a non-3G area, so I'm on Edge. I normally have a good, strong 4-bar signal. Even when I'm in a 3G area, I use a different comm manager to turn off 3G to conserve power. I use KaiserTweak and select all the "Advised" settings in the power-related sections.
I've tried several different radios, but haven't noticed an improvement.
Does anyone have any ideas or recommendations on improving the efficiency of my Tilt in phone mode?

I have the same problem.
I have 3 batteries. 2 Samsungs and 1 Dynapak. Each battery lasts about 3 hours in standby. The phone is always warm as well. I have a utility that shows the phone is running around 380mAh current. That's seems pretty high.
I think theres something seriously wrong with certain batches of these phones.

these phones r seriously poor for battery life.. i love the htc but they slowly being overttaken by other phones.. shame!

maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 gay of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.

profusion said:
maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 gay of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
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Really??
So, what battery are you using? Which ROM? Which radio?

profusion said:
maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 day of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
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mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.

ChumleyEX said:
mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
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Me too used to get about 2 days with a 2700 that is being registered correctly, i now tell everyone to not phone me "well they don't listen just like no one does" so i block all incoming calls with MagiCall, to what point do i have a phone now? To flash & twaek and text
"Am kinda joking but my stylus is now half the size due to this topic"

Buy a new battery.
I don't dig long phone calls unless there is something going on. Too many people just want to hang out on the phone and say nothing.

ChumleyEX said:
Buy a new battery.
I don't dig long phone calls unless there is something going on. Too many people just want to hang out on the phone and say nothing.
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Mine is a new battery Have to say same about people talking about nothing.
"The loss of battery was due to phonecall and radio i'm not moaning either i expect the battery life to not be perfect on any WM phone"

Well yeah radio version help too.

ChumleyEX said:
mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
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This isn't my first foray into these HTC devices. I've been using them for nearly 2 years now, and I know the battery life on these devices isn't what it is on something like my old RAZR. I'm just fine with that; since the Tilt does so much more, I don't expect the charge to last a week like my RAZR did. But this drain while using the phone is driving me nuts.
FYI, I know to keep WiFi and GPS off, and to use KaiserTweak to shut down data connections when they're not being used. If I don't use the phone or surf, the battery will easily last me 2 days, and that's with checking 4 e-mail accounts every hour, and with SBSH PocketWeather getting updates every 2 hours. But talk on the phone, and it's a different story. I talked to my wife for about 30 minutes last night and went from 80% to 20% battery level.
The battery is only about 7-8 months old. Still, I ordered a new 1600ma battery last week, and it should be here in a day or two. I'm hoping that solves the problem.

It's possible that the battery you have now is under warranty. (if you bought the phone new)
good luck.

ChumleyEX said:
It's possible that the battery you have now is under warranty. (if you bought the phone new)
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Unfortunately, it was a refurb, and the warranty expired a long time ago. The new battery wasn't exactly a budget killer.

Well my battery seems to be working now.
Phone is no longer hot all the time, and my utility says I'm using between 1 and 64 mA. That's much better than the 350+ mA it was sucking before.
I didn't do a damn thing different either. Didn't change any settings for the radios, didn't reflash, etc..
Some people think that the GPS get's stuck in the "on" position and there's no way to turn it off, short of opening and closing GPS Aware programs repeatedly until your current usage drops in the sub 100 mA range.

Always discharge your battery fully as possible at least 1 a week to ensure your battery last longer, lots of charges above the threshold will diminish your batteries life and capacity. The Kaiser is a powerful device and it is obvious to anyone that this requires power to run it, so the battery wont last for days. :-(

tinmanjo said:
Always discharge your battery fully as possible at least 1 a week to ensure your battery last longer, lots of charges above the threshold will diminish your batteries life and capacity. The Kaiser is a powerful device and it is obvious to anyone that this requires power to run it, so the battery wont last for days. :-(
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HUH???????
These are Lithium batteries, we aren't in the 90's anymore buddy.. My phone lasts for at least 2 days and sometimes 3 (the phone is over a year old too)..
Welcome to the year 2009
"1. Battery Memory - When I first got my new cellphone, my friend recommended to fully drain the battery before recharging it. His reasoning was connected to the idea of battery memory. Allowing the battery to fully discharge then recharging to max, supposedly gives you the complete battery capacity. Otherwise, if you simply charged from the half way point to max battery capacity, the battery would treat the half way point as the empty point, thus cutting your battery capacity in half.
Problem is battery memory doesn’t apply to Lithium batteries, this advice was meant for Nickel based batteries. Fully discharging your Lithium battery frequently can actually be quite harmful to your battery’s health, possibly rendering it completely unusable if energy levels go too low.
The good news is today’s lithium batteries have a safety circuit in place to insure the battery doesn’t reach the point of no return. The safety circuit isn’t fool proof of course, if you leave your battery completely drained for a few days, even the circuit’s protective measures won’t save it.
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INFACT it's recommended to leave a little bit of a charge before charging or storing.
l o l

Be that as it may, when you get a new battery you still have to use it for a few weeks before the phone reports battery levels accurately. The phone may still shut down when WM thinks it's almost empty, regardless if it's actually empty or not. Just try it, battery life improves over the first few weeks of usage, and your battery level readings will get more stable (instead of dropping to 50% in 10 minutes and then proceeding to stay there for 6 hours).
BTW my kaiser lasts about 3 days as well, with fairly heavy usage.

No fair, I want a bazillion stars next to my name too.
I Think this guy has had the phone and battery for a little while, so the few weeks thing might not be an option. (well at least the battery he was posting about)

HUH???????
These are Lithium batteries, we aren't in the 90's anymore buddy.. My phone lasts for at least 2 days and sometimes 3 (the phone is over a year old too)..
Welcome to the year 2009
"1. Battery Memory - When I first got my new cellphone, my friend recommended to fully drain the battery before recharging it. His reasoning was connected to the idea of battery memory. Allowing the battery to fully discharge then recharging to max, supposedly gives you the complete battery capacity. Otherwise, if you simply charged from the half way point to max battery capacity, the battery would treat the half way point as the empty point, thus cutting your battery capacity in half.
Problem is battery memory doesn’t apply to Lithium batteries, this advice was meant for Nickel based batteries. Fully discharging your Lithium battery frequently can actually be quite harmful to your battery’s health, possibly rendering it completely unusable if energy levels go too low.
The good news is today’s lithium batteries have a safety circuit in place to insure the battery doesn’t reach the point of no return. The safety circuit isn’t fool proof of course, if you leave your battery completely drained for a few days, even the circuit’s protective measures won’t save it.
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INFACT it's recommended to leave a little bit of a charge before charging or storing.
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As refered to your reply, i didnt mean discharge fully completely i meant the cut off point would stop you anyhow, i meant to bring it to about 10%, i found that using the battery until it reaches 10-12% far by decreases battery drain when it is fully charged again, this is only 1 in a while though not frequently. I understand lithuim-ion doesnt have a memory effect problem, but there is such thing as variable current influencing different cells which can either benefit or make it worst, there is a lot of debate as to whether this improves it or not.
Great tip, keep it cool and away from your pocket pants because heat kills it.

Dude thats no fun to keep it out of your pocket,

battery life

hey guys
in the last couple of weeks ive flashed about 5 roms which consider to be good.
i have to say I really like android but one issue keeps me frustrated
and thats battery life.
how can it be that my friends iphone battery lasts so much more then my galaxy s1?
ive gone through numeros guides decreased brightness to minimum
stopped syncing my gmail account and other stuff as well.
as time goes by im regreting not buying iphone when i had the chance
because battery is one of the most important things in a smartphone.
currently,
i am 25 years old student studying computer science in the university
which means im out most of the day.
its not that rare for me to be stuck without battery and its so frustrating.
i ask for your help please,
what is the best rom for s1 regarding battery life
and has hebrew on it?
(im from israel)
thanks alot mates!

Have you ever calibrated it after flashing?

BlueFlame4 said:
Have you ever calibrated it after flashing?
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yes man everytime after flashing a new rom im calibarating when reaches 100
let it drops to 0 and turn off
then charging to 100 again.
i just want my battery to last hehe

It doesn't benefit at ALL
Sent from my HTC One V using xda premium

Dropping to 0% is the worst thing a LI-ION battery can experience.
There are some calibrations methods around, you can try some apps but I think you ROM just needs some time to calibrate the battery sign. Are you running a zillion of apps in the background?

Another option is to buy a new battery with more power. stock battery has 1500mah. but you can get a battery with 1800mah for your s1.

Did you wipe battery stats in cwm?

Disable mobile data or switch to 2G only it helps a lot. Phone will drain battery if you have a bad signal

I have to second the disable the data connection recommend. Also your battery life will get better the longer you use a rom and the more charge/discharge cycles your battery sees. To be clear that does not mean 100%-0% every time just regular charging.
I'm personally on GB and with data disconnected for most of the day and the 1800mah battery I have been on the same charge for almost a week and still have 30% left. It's truly amazing!!

BlueFlame4 said:
Dropping to 0% is the worst thing a LI-ION battery can experience.
There are some calibrations methods around, you can try some apps but I think you ROM just needs some time to calibrate the battery sign. Are you running a zillion of apps in the background?
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Dropping below the minimum voltage is what you're talking about, and that's not possible because of the controller on each battery. That's why the phone dies when it hits 0% (or thereabouts) even though it still has plenty of power left over to run the device. Running a full cycle on the battery will be just fine.

Worried about Mi 5 battery life

I ordered this device yesterday but I worried about battery life, in reviews spoken the battery life was bad.
I dont have the device yet.
In the future the battery life was improvement on system updates?

saarxee said:
I ordered this device yesterday but I worried about battery life, in reviews spoken the battery life was bad.
I dont have the device yet.
In the future the battery life was improvement on system updates?
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I have to say I find the battery life to be outstanding if you are using the chinese rom. If using the global one it is really poor. There is another thread on here about battery life. Have a look at that

How much SOT on chinese rom?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/discussion-xiami-mi-5-battery-life-t3338693

I look that but I Asks you.
Chinese rom was better than global on performance and camera?

saarxee said:
I look that but I Asks you.
Chinese rom was better than global on performance and camera?
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In my opinion the chiense rom is much better although there are obviously some chinese apps there too

I'm reviewing the phone at the moment, my results on GeekBench 06:30:30 for runtime and a score of 3905 with the screen on maximum brightness. I've used the phone with dual-SIM and single-SIM and not struggled with it at all. MIUI 6.3.31 and it's the 64/3GB model. Hope that's of some help!

Battery life is usually good. SOT around 5 hrs for me and I usually play games.
However stand by is really odd one both the roms. Sometimes overnight it consumes 1%-3% sometime s 20%-25%, I still can't figure out why.

25% in night?? why?

mohitgalaxy3 said:
Battery life is usually good. SOT around 5 hrs for me and I usually play games.
However stand by is really odd one both the roms. Sometimes overnight it consumes 1%-3% sometime s 20%-25%, I still can't figure out why.
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Never seen that with mine. While at work during the day I only use it for the odd call and some texts along with a small amount of browsing. With the chinese rom I would have 85% charge left when I get home but with the global rom doing the same I would have about 65% left so clearly it wasnt going to sleep properly. Maybe thats what you are seeing

mohitgalaxy3 said:
Battery life is usually good. SOT around 5 hrs for me and I usually play games.
However stand by is really odd one both the roms. Sometimes overnight it consumes 1%-3% sometime s 20%-25%, I still can't figure out why.
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You have LG G2 before Mi 5? this is huge upgrade? better device in camera and more?

saarxee said:
You have LG G2 before Mi 5? this is huge upgrade? better device in camera and more?
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No, I haven't updated my signature from so long.
I have used nexus 5, galaxy s6(lost), lg g4 and oneplus 2 after Lg g2. For me galaxy s6 was the best device I have ever used.
Mi5 has a mediocre camera nothing exceptional about it xiaomi is creating hype about 4-axis and things however in reality it can't capture full hd video smoothly.
For sure Mi5 has better sound and battery and chipset but software wise I think any other phone out is better than this MIUI crap.
and believe me MIUI can never get fixed until and unless they changed their framework completely. As of now MIUI 7 is based on MM but it doesn't have a single feature of MM so what is the use of such OS. MIUI is for users who just want to keep applying themes and do nothing else.
I am never going to buy xiaomi again.
Hoping I get my hands on an AOSP or CM ROM soon or else I have to sell this ****.
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Never seen that with mine. While at work during the day I only use it for the odd call and some texts along with a small amount of browsing. With the chinese rom I would have 85% charge left when I get home but with the global rom doing the same I would have about 65% left so clearly it wasnt going to sleep properly. Maybe thats what you are seeing
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I really don't know what is wrong but I experience the same on both the ROM's, yesterday I got 7.2.12 and after that it consumed only 3 % overnight even with alarm on.
Also, I have one more strange bug whenever I start playing coc my wifi gets disconnected and it gets disconnected randomly too, are you facing any such thing like this.

You have the wakelock qpnp_fg_memaccess that is draining battery. Check with wackelock detector..
Same happened to me one night from 40% to 6% in 6 hours..
This happened because Qualcomm introduced a new feature called Fuel Gauge that is managing the battery and is not working really like it should..

Strange.. I used my phone heavily(not gaming of course) and hardly to hit 70% in 8 hours during day time.
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk

spavian said:
You have the wakelock qpnp_fg_memaccess that is draining battery. Check with wackelock detector..
Same happened to me one night from 40% to 6% in 6 hours..
This happened because Qualcomm introduced a new feature called Fuel Gauge that is managing the battery and is not working really like it should..
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So what does one do about it? its my first day on mi5, i cant say that battery is bad.. its almost same as on a Sony Z5P.

My Mi5 is doing great on the battery... I use it at work i use it at home... during the night it drain around 5% max. Normally i can say it can last 1,5 days...
Using China Stable 7.3.3 With some battery usage tweaks..

Using CM13 I go all day without recharging from 7am to 7pm
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Same here on CM 13 battery is good, lasting 2 days.

saarxee said:
I ordered this device yesterday but I worried about battery life, in reviews spoken the battery life was bad.
I dont have the device yet.
In the future the battery life was improvement on system updates?
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MI5 is one of the crazy device ever! Once you receive the phone you will be keep busy with experiment. Some people will tell battery life is outstanding and some like me will say battery life is poor.
My impression about MI5 is, usually after buying a phone we try to use it hassle free. But MI5 will create lots of confusion and make you trend to experiment lots of things until you get the perfection.
Currently the global ROM is most worst ever ROM and it will make you frustrated. Some people will tell China ROM is better but eventually until unless you are Chinese, you will never like chinese things!
Just now flashed CM13 and looks impressive!

The way you charge helps with endurance as well
Try getting into the habit of not letting your battery level drop below 15%. Charge it from there to 100%. Was a big item on xda some months ago about expanding the quality of a modern smartphones battery.

[N9208] Battery can't even survive half a day on normal use

Hello, I'm a new user on xda (but actually a longtime reader). I finally decided to upgrade to Nougat with OTA updates. My device works perfectly fine, except for the battery. I have another android running rooted stock Motorola nougat with similar apps and usage and able to survive until midnight with 15% battery left on on medium use, while my Note 5 can't even survive half a day on light usage.
In battery usage stats, most battery use percentage is the screen, followed by device idle. I don't use LTE with hope it can help, and using 720p resolution to see wether it can also help. The screen on time lies around 3-4 hours but the standby drain is very annoying.
My device has never been rooted. I'm considering flashing a rom if it can help the battery issue, but I use the S-pen a lot and don't want to lose its functionallity by using a rom without the S-pen apps. Right now I'm considering flashing a ported version of Note FE rom by RadeonMaya. Is it good for these purpose?
Any idea on what to do?

The Note5 is over 3 years old, don't expect good battery life. Even when new it was bad. 3-4 hours of Screen time is A-W-E-S-O-M-E. I only get 2 max.

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The Note5 is over 3 years old, don't expect good battery life. Even when new it was bad. 3-4 hours of Screen time is A-W-E-S-O-M-E. I only get 2 max.
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Thanks. Perhaps i'll consider buying a battery case or something.

Get the battery replaced. I did mine myself and it's like a new phone again

Battery life, replaced battery.

Hello guys,
i recently replaced my note 8 battery. i also factory data reseted the phone so i could reset everything. Now batteyr life is obv better. Sot get to like 3.5 hours of SOT but i still feel like its not like it should be. Before was getting like 2 hrs sot. ? battery is new and i also tried with another new batteyr for testing with same results. Now i installed accubattery and over the course of 3 days its says battery life weak and 2100 mah reported out of 3300. Also samsung members says battery life is weak. Anything im missing?
thank you
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triet *#0228# and says 0-8 battery block. have read on forums people says if less than 8 battery its bad. BUT my last battery also said 0-8 blocks and drained 40% overnight while new battery 5-7%.

Prototype18 said:
Hello guys,
i recently replaced my note 8 battery. i also factory data reseted the phone so i could reset everything. Now batteyr life is obv better. Sot get to like 3.5 hours of SOT but i still feel like its not like it should be. Before was getting like 2 hrs sot. ? battery is new and i also tried with another new batteyr for testing with same results. Now i installed accubattery and over the course of 3 days its says battery life weak and 2100 mah reported out of 3300. Also samsung members says battery life is weak. Anything im missing?
thank you
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triet *#0228# and says 0-8 battery block. have read on forums people says if less than 8 battery its bad. BUT my last battery also said 0-8 blocks and drained 40% overnight while new battery 5-7%.
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Hard to say if it's a bad battery.
Best to install BetterBatteryStats app, record an idle dump and post it in the BBS thread (
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-2-2-05-oct-v2-4-betterbatterystats.1179809/)
There are some experts analyzing your battery stats and giving you advices, if you can optimize battery life on your device.

Prototype18 said:
Hello guys,
i recently replaced my note 8 battery. i also factory data reseted the phone so i could reset everything. Now batteyr life is obv better. Sot get to like 3.5 hours of SOT but i still feel like its not like it should be. Before was getting like 2 hrs sot. ? battery is new and i also tried with another new batteyr for testing with same results. Now i installed accubattery and over the course of 3 days its says battery life weak and 2100 mah reported out of 3300. Also samsung members says battery life is weak. Anything im missing?
thank you
Edit:
triet *#0228# and says 0-8 battery block. have read on forums people says if less than 8 battery its bad. BUT my last battery also said 0-8 blocks and drained 40% overnight while new battery 5-7%.
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I replaced my battery a couple weeks ago too. Using Accubattery, it is showing that my battery is 2435 mAh. Funny thing is before I replaced the battery, it was also showing similar number, which makes me think if the shop I went really replaced my battery or not. Went back to complain and they just returned my money and didn't want to do anything about it.
I'm also wondering the same thing is I need to calibrate the battery, this is how I land to this posting.
Last night I tried to let the battery dies to 0% and kept trying to turn it on to ensure the battery had completely died and charged it overnight. This was suggest by one posting in Google. However, it doesn't give me any improvement as since I turned it on this morning to 77% only takes 40 mins with continuous browsing.
One posting said that I need to do a wipe partition cache. Which I haven't done. Nor have I factory resetted the phone.
Still trying to find how to improve, my last resort would be to buy new phone

Accubattery isn't accurate.
20% @ 617 ma gives you around 3000mAh.
A better question is what's eating so much power?
Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker is useful.
Karma Firewall can show you what's using bandwidth and power. You can also firewall block any app with it.