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Samsung Galaxy Gear Smartwatch - Specs and Video

Samsung filed a design patent in korea and some specs about the Galaxy Gear Smartwatch have leaked now.
Samsung Exynos 4212 dual core clocked at 1.5GHz with Mali-400 MP4 GPU
320 x 320 resolution Flexible OLED display
Camera (integrated into strap)
NFC, Bluetooth 4.0 LE, Accelerometer
Decent battery life
Android 4.3 (developer units had Android 4.1 or 4.2)
Check the source link for the drawing pictures from the patent and a 3D video based on those drawings.
This looks quite promising.
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np231 said:
Samsung filed a design patent in korea and some specs about the Galaxy Gear Smartwatch have leaked now.
Samsung Exynos 4212 dual core clocked at 1.5GHz with Mali-400 MP4 GPU
320 x 320 resolution Flexible OLED display
Camera (integrated into strap)
NFC, Bluetooth 4.0 LE, Accelerometer
Decent battery life
Android 4.3 (developer units had Android 4.1 or 4.2)
Check the source link for the drawing pictures from the patent and a 3D video based on those drawings.
This looks quite promising.
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I must admit, I'm somewhat of a purist, I usually wear a stainless steel waterproof Fossil when not donning my MotoACTV, but that thing is pretty damn ugly from my perspective. It's very futuristic looking, but also looks like it'd be easy to break.

For me I found the device quite attractive. It looks great.
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I think it looks dreadful and the design is absolutely terrible. Given the size of the screen, i could only imagine how easy that thing would scratch.

Seems a little big, doesn't it? Like the specs though =P

No WiFi so not cetain how interested I am in owning it. I really should sell the I'M watch and maybe the motoactv if the Neptune pine works out.

ronaldheld said:
No WiFi so not cetain how interested I am in owning it. I really should sell the I'M watch and maybe the motoactv if the Neptune pine works out.
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Including wifi will drain the battery faster. I still have no idea how they will be able to pull "decent battery life" with all the features on the list already. There hasn't been any groundbreaking battery improvements to claim higher capacity in a smaller footprint, unless they can stash some battery cells inside of the bracelet?
In general, until Sept 4th it's all speculations about how exactly it's going to look and what exact features its going to have. So I would take all these T3 renderings with a grain of salt Samsung could be clever with their patent pictures to mislead general outline.
Just from my own personal experience of using MetaWatch (designed by Fossil guys) smartwatch, which in my opinion doesn't get enough credit, you DO NOT want to carry a gadget on your wrist but rather a watch with smart functionality. All these "cool" features are OK for a few minutes of play, but for every day use you only need to get phone/sms/email/calendar notifications in order to know when you need to pull out your main weapon of choice - your smart phone. Remote music control is great too, for example in a situation when you want to control your wireless bt speaker playlist from a distance. I have Sony LiveView MN800 (got it brand new for $19 off ebay), so I got a taste of "smartwatch" with apps. It's OK to play for 5-10min, and that's all. For practical use - who cares. I have read a lot about MotoACTV roms and how you can turn that watch into mini-android gadget. Definitely cool, but wouldn't you rather run your apps and play games on smartphone instead? I'm Watch - sorry, but most of the reviews about that smart watch refer to it as a giant failure. What else is available right now? Pebble and MetaWatch. Pebble has an advantage of a better screen and huge hype that enabled them to $ecure fund$ thus being able to have more developers working on software to support it; but other then display and better battery life - the design is cheap. MetaWatch in my opinion has a lot better design between sporty STRATA and business FRAME (refer to my review link), but lower resolution, worse battery life, and limited sw resources are dragging them down, although they have been making some nice sw development progress lately. Martian and Cookoos - I don't even count those in the same category as other smart watches, those are more like feature-watches. Everything else "to be announced" such as Kreyos, HOT, Agent - look good on the paper, but until we see these out with proper hands'on reviews and comparison, it's all speculation and hype they are building to get pre-orders.
With all that said, I'm very excited to see what September 4th going to reveal, and how soon Samsung Gear and Note III going to be available for purchase

vectron said:
I have read a lot about MotoACTV roms and how you can turn that watch into mini-android gadget. Definitely cool, but wouldn't you rather run your apps and play games on smartphone instead?
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The point isn't to replace your phone with it, it's to be able to customize it to do what you want, and without having to be tethered to your phone. Having super quick access to my Notes app, calculator app, calender app etc. is handy. Live backgrounds are entertaining, other things like playing Pokemon on a GBC emulator are fun to do when waiting in line or something. I find I use certain apps on my watch because it's convenient, and the rest on my smart phone.

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The point isn't to replace your phone with it, it's to be able to customize it to do what you want, and without having to be tethered to your phone. Having super quick access to my Notes app, calculator app, calender app etc. is handy. Live backgrounds are entertaining, other things like playing Pokemon on a GBC emulator are fun to do when waiting in line or something. I find I use certain apps on my watch because it's convenient, and the rest on my smart phone.
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How about battery life running all that stuff on MotoACTV?

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How about battery life running all that stuff on MotoACTV?
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I average 3-4 days with bluetooth enabled and connected to my phone for texts and caller id. Obviously lots of games and videos will yield lower results.

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How about battery life running all that stuff on MotoACTV?
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With bluetooth on, and live wallpapers running constantly. I get same results as speedy ink (3 - 4 days). However turning the motoactv off at night I get a weeks worth of battery life.

How can the resolution be 320x320 if the display is not a perfect square?

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How can the resolution be 320x320 if the display is not a perfect square?
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Good point, maybe the display size is 320x320 but the top and bottom bezel is used for other notifications?
The first week of September is going to be crazy good!
Update: check the source for leaked screenshots, confirming NFC and 'Locate my Watch' features.

Sure but the watch may be available in the US at the same time as the N3.

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Sure but the watch may be available in the US at the same time as the N3.
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N3 is what?

Note 3.

With smartphones it's different because AT&T always like to play an upper hand with introduction of latest Samsung phones a month a head of other providers. I have no idea how Verizon ends up being the last. So a lot of politics involved with N3 intro. Smartwatch intro should be independent of carrier, but could be limited due to supply'n'demand. Can't wait for Sept 4th, and hoping not to get disappointed when it will come to battery spec of Gear.

Verizon is last because of all of the fiddling they do to the OS and bloatware.

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Verizon is last because of all of the fiddling they do to the OS and bloatware.
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Just heard from someone Verizon might get N3 only in November

Yes it might be November or December if release time is similar to that of last year.

VR performance

Hi,
Considering Nokia 8 has a QHD screen and best CPU/ GPU combo currently available, I presume VR would be great on it. Could someone please check and let me know?
I understand Daydream wouldn't work but Cardboard is pretty cool too.
I'm not sure how many of you would be aware but there is a way of making Steam and Vive VR games work on the mobile using an app called VRidge and its companion software called Riftcat on the desktop. I'd be grateful if someone could test that as well.
Thanks

vigneshnm said:
Hi,
Considering Nokia 8 has a QHD screen and best CPU/ GPU combo currently available, I presume VR would be great on it. Could someone please check and let me know?
I understand Daydream wouldn't work but Cardboard is pretty cool too.
I'm not sure how many of you would be aware but there is a way of making Steam and Vive VR games work on the mobile using an app called VRidge and its companion software called Riftcat on the desktop. I'd be grateful if someone could test that as well.
Thanks
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From what I've read, some LCD screens are able to meet Google's daydream specs, but Google doesn't seem to favour any LCD even if latency is ok. Ironic really as the screen on my Nokia 8 that I returned was imho a better display than what Google's fitted to the pixel 2xl..
To the point of when I receive my 2xl, if it's as bad as 2 of the 3 I've looked at, it will be returned and I will reorder a Nokia 8 or hang on for the Nokia 9..
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skip24ftlb said:
From what I've read, some LCD screens are able to meet Google's daydream specs, but Google doesn't seem to favour any LCD even if latency is ok. Ironic really as the screen on my Nokia 8 that I returned was imho a better display than what Google's fitted to the pixel 2xl..
To the point of when I receive my 2xl, if it's as bad as 2 of the 3 I've looked at, it will be returned and I will reorder a Nokia 8 or hang on for the Nokia 9..
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That really sucks. For now, Samsung seems to be the only manufacturer capable of making a great amoled display.
Although your post is probably the best endorsement Nokia needs!

Screen specs
Anyone abke to get nokia 8 screen specs? Latency? Refresh rate?

vigneshnm said:
That really sucks. For now, Samsung seems to be the only manufacturer capable of making a great amoled display.
Although your post is probably the best endorsement Nokia needs!
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I do my best to avoid OLED screens, i have only had one and the screen burnt in very quickly, i dare say they are much better now but the screen on the Nokia 8 is beautiful, no need for OLED.
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Just to add, i'd stick my neck out and say the Nokia 8 screen is nicer than the screen fitted to my brothers iPhone X.

Z3 Force is coming tomorrow

Guys, the Z3 Force is coming tomorrow :victory: and will be available for purchase sometime in September. It will probably feature a curved ShatterShield screen, face unlock, 3 cameras on the back like the attached render (all leaked renders were true), Snapdragon 845 processor, 6/64GB and maybe 8/128 storage, no front facing LED flash for some reason. Moto will also show a 5G Moto Mod with a built in power pack (hopefully).
Who is buying it? I'm getting one for sure.
I found a couple of hint links but none of them show any pictures:
https://www.amazon.com/OEAGO-Motorola-Protector-Anti-Scratch-Replacement/dp/B0775G18C8
https://www.amazon.com/OEAGO-Flexible-Premium-Rubber-Silicone/dp/B0773NQDQY
http://www.skinomi.com/sk33529-z3-force-phone-skin-protector.html
http://www.iqshield.com/iq33528-moto-z3-force-phone-screen-protector.html
I'm really hyped because everyone was saying no Force Edition this year.

The one they announced today doesn't seem to be the flagship. Hopefully we get the true Moto Z3 Force flagship at IFA at the end of the month. Impressive that they managed to keep all the leaks away. It caught everyone by surprise.

TigerCourage said:
The one they announced today doesn't seem to be the flagship. Hopefully we get the true Moto Z3 Force flagship at IFA at the end of the month. Impressive that they managed to keep all the leaks away. It caught everyone by surprise.
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Nope. No Z3 Force, at all. (As a new user, can't post a link - here's the tweet: twitter.com/MotorolaUS/status/1025121824550662149)
Disappointing to see a company that comes up with so many cool ideas make so many bad choices.

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Nope. No Z3 Force, at all. (As a new user, can't post a link - here's the tweet: twitter.com/MotorolaUS/status/1025121824550662149)
Disappointing to see a company that comes up with so many cool ideas make so many bad choices.
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Wtf. That is really stupid. We are stuck with the european Z² Force as a flagship then (it has 6GB of RAM). It runs really well but everyone was expecting more from them this year...
Seems that the Z³ is the Z³ Play for Verizon. It's identical.
https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9283&idPhone2=9003

there is not much change
Screen with lower resolution but more size
5G ready
https://www.cnet.com/es/analisis/motorola-moto-z3/primer-vistazo/
https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8693&sSearch1=&sSearch2=moto+z3+force&idPhone2=9283

Just checked the specs on analysis for the z3 (not force) and is it really worth getting you might as well stick with the z2 force same specks as ours bet they've just used old z2 force parts. I'm pretty sure you guys will get that 5g mod working to

omnismart said:
there is not much change
Screen with lower resolution but more size
5G ready
https://www.cnet.com/es/analisis/motorola-moto-z3/primer-vistazo/
https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8693&sSearch1=&sSearch2=moto+z3+force&idPhone2=9283
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So it's just a US Z2 Force with the same processor and camera in a Z3 Play body.
That is really stupid.
Thing is, they said in a interview that the 5G moto mod is not the last one and they will continue with the mods. WTF.
Maybe the community manager from Twitter mistaken and there will be another one this year?
I mean seriously, they are making such a big thing in their presentation that 50% of the Moto Z owners have a mod too, so how can such a big company miss the opportunity to make loads of $$$$$$ because everyone using the first gen skipped the second gen to buy the third gen Moto Z (and they made it Verizon exclusive and not available outside US) + the ones using the second gen wanting the latest and greatest with better specs so they can keep using the mods they invested in for 2 more years. Z3 Force would have been a TOP seller.

Hey, since it releases with 8.1, that means it has a vendor partition. This means we can use those blobs to easily port over treble since hardware is near identical. Our treble beta builds in discord have a few quirks but those blobs would make it have near zero issues besides audio hal for motomods due to the way it routes to the ROM.

Uzephi said:
Hey, since it releases with 8.1, that means it has a vendor partition. This means we can use those blobs to easily port over treble since hardware is near identical. Our treble beta builds in discord have a few quirks but those blobs would make it have near zero issues besides audio hal for motomods due to the way it routes to the ROM.
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Yeah, maybe even port the entire Android 10 ROM when Moto stops supporting the Z2 Force and the other one recieves the update.
So no flagship this year my friends. The global Z2 Force is the more powerful device still with 6GB ram. Now we only need a fully working Google Camera and that would be awesome. Anyone willing to donate some $ to a developer so they can make a proper port? I'm willing to do so.

So I got the z3. It really makes my z2 look horrible.lol
I'm really happy with it.(sold my note 8 to get it)
Also I love were the new fingerprint sensor is for what it's worth.

noXcape said:
So I got the z3. It really makes my z2 look horrible.lol
I'm really happy with it.(sold my note 8 to get it)
Also I love were the new fingerprint sensor is for what it's worth.
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Does it support Daydream by Google? Can you try to download it from the Play Store and tell us if it works?

noXcape said:
So I got the z3. It really makes my z2 look horrible.lol
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Yes, but we can't get it in europe, right? Very sad.

I have never used daydream. I dont have a vr headset to test it with

If the specs are not that much different, then why buy one.. It has 3 cameras, and 5G which is not full out yet... Seems like a waste to me..

Basically the same specs as a 1000$ device...my note 8 only had 6 gbs of ram because it wouldn't accomplish anything with the 4.
Maybe I was just unhappy with my note 8 after not being able to even put a good screen protector on it....
I just see a lot of bad hype online from people who probably don't even have/use mods or are not invested in Moto mods.
If you loved the z2 than you are definitely going to love the z3. The new exterior is awesome.

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I have never used daydream. I dont have a vr headset to test it with
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Does it let you download the app from the Play Store? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.vr.home
If it does, it supports it.

Yes it let me download it and open up the app.

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Yes it let me download it and open up the app.
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Super, that means the Z3 is compatible with Daydream even with it's lower resolution screen!
Thanks!

TigerCourage said:
Super, that means the Z3 is compatible with Daydream even with it's lower resolution screen!
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That's crazy. Why do the Z3 have just full HD? No go today. I watch Netflix on it and by Full HD I can see all the pixels. So quad HD is needed. I watch movies im a distance of less centimeter. But quad HD is really ok, 4k, the better resolution, is not needed. Around 500-600dpi and I'm happy

Do the comprising I will stick with the Z2 for what I do.. In 6 months, people will be saying O my god, they are coming out with a z4 and it is so much better than the z3 or z2 was... If that is your thing, so be it. You will make the manufacture very happy with your wallet. LOL
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/c...Moto-Z2-Force-Edition/phones/10862,10521?ft=2

Is nokia 8 still worth buying in September 2018 ?

Nokia 8 is available for INR 28k. So is it worth buying considering SD835 and camera quality or is there any better option ?

pawankkumar said:
Nokia 8 is available for INR 28k. So is it worth buying considering SD835 and camera quality or is there any better option ?
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As of the locked bootloader, issues with obtaining root and maintaining updates from OTA at the same time and lack of custom roms I would rather choose Pocophone F1 nowdays. The battery is also smaller on this one and ONLY advantage of N8 over F1 is the camera from Carl Zeiss.

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. The battery is also smaller on this one and ONLY advantage of N8 over F1 is the camera from Carl Zeiss.
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And at Amazon, the Nokia 8 is £100 cheaper than the Pocophone, I'd say that was a good advantage

I'm guessing you can get the Pocophone F1 or Honor Play for similar or less money in India? I'd seriously consider those (I own a Nokia 8 but if I was buying today I'd probably look elsewhere)

I haven't got any issue on OTA updates so I would always recommend Nokia 8. It hasn't give me any problem issue either, not even with Bluetooth as some people had wrote. I'm pleased with the camera quality, stock Nokia camera is decent enough, but if you want better post processing image to obtain better picture quality and really good HDR+ option you can install Google camera posted here in some thread. Another good option is installing open camera app from playstore, with it I can set up 4k at 60fps and it does record video without any crush. I haven't check on PC about if it's really recording at those parameters though.
Another plus that I believe is build quality. Nokia has been always outstanding in that department. I don't know about pocophone's build quality, nor endurance durability. So I can't say if it is good or bad. But I can surely say Nokia is better, no doubt. Lol
But of course, if you want better performance in paper I would recommend you pocophone, as it has the latest snapdragon processor and RAM I think (?).

I picked mine up at the beginning of August and don't regret the purchase at all. The camera issues are exaggerated - isn't great in low light, but it's pretty decent in normal light. To be honest if you want a really good camera you still need to buy a proper camera, but as phones go it's not terrible. The processor is more than up to most jobs. It's really nicely built - solid and with a decent metal back. At current prices you're getting a near top-end phone at mid-level prices.

don't go
, i bought Nokia 8 on very first day launch in india. it has image retention and heating issues.
only advantage is camera 2 api enabled by default.
so it can able to run gcam mode.
rather i would suggest go with mi a2 for overall all same stock experience with great camera and large aperture 1.75 with sony sensor. it would be joy to use gcam mode with this setup.
don't go with poco f1, display issues and camera is just worst and not even comparable to 2 year old mi5.

I have dual sim Nokia 8 and screen, looks like, shape of metal, plastics and screen is better than any Xiami phone ever. Nokia 8 is a top model of fashion for almost all mobile phones made it until now. It is really worth to buy in October too!
For me no heating problems, or any other. Camera with google or other aps are ok.
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Just bought one so I hope so...
For the price nothing seems to compare now spec wise, I've got a 950xl that has some kind of weird power draw issue which has forced my hand to finally ditch windows phone.
Sadly instore the Nakia 7.1 instantly took a better picture but I found I hard to spend more money on a 'lesser' phone, hoping the updates and different camera make it better!
I personally really like the style on the Nokia, I was considering the oneplus but then for the difference in price for what you get, is it really worth spending over double? I was set on buying a P20 Pro, but photos didn't seem to compare to the 950xl (tried them side by side instore) and I learnt very quickly that I really hate the 'notch' at the top, figured if I'm settling might as well get a pretty phone, considering what else you can get with the same specs seems to be double the price at least in the UK so far i'm happy. and I've saved a fortune by not buying the P20 Pro

Don't buy any Nokia device if you want install custom ROM and or flash custom recovery.
HMD isn't Nokia!

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I've just bought the missus one, £250 with a 2 year warranty is a no brainer, you could pay more for a Moto G6 Plus and get Pie and the odd security update in about 18 months if you are lucky.
The camera isn't as bad as people seem to get rather heated about, it is a bit crap in low light but for most situations it is fine.
I have had mine 11 months and it has been nothing other than great.

I agree. Camera is not bad. Also, it is not awesome but successful enough. I see the reality of colours is definitely good. I don't like to see fake and stupid colors in my pictures. It still worths to buy at the moment.
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I've just bought the missus one, £250 with a 2 year warranty is a no brainer, you could pay more for a Moto G6 Plus and get Pie and the odd security update in about 18 months if you are lucky.
The camera isn't as bad as people seem to get rather heated about, it is a bit crap in low light but for most situations it is fine.
I have had mine 11 months and it has been nothing other than great.
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Now with unlocked bootloader you have a masterpiece in nokia 8. Good camera imo, very good radios - bluetooth connects to anything... Go for it

IMO the best Device in Years. Even w/o Root/BLU Android One is damn cool, I won't buy any Phone without One anymore. And having a 1/8" Jack which doens't suck (Compared to Sony's is Great), the SD Card Slot I can't live without having Hundreds of Gigabtes of Lossless Music, 16:9 but with Hardware Button seems more sensefull than 18:9 bc Videos still are 16:9 anyway, I still prefer IPS over OLED due to Burn-Ins... I haven't been Disappointed yet!

DO NOT BUY POCO F1. Im actually poco user and want to switch to this. Tons of bugs and problem that they still not fix after 1 months of release. there also screen bleeding issue, multitouch issue, weird audio issue while using headset while playing game and ugly notch. Stay away from poco
Edit : also MIUI is very bad OS. Tons of bloatware and they even put ads on anything like file manager or the weather widget. Its just soo annoying.
One more thing worth noted custom rom isnt really friendly now on xiaomi devices because they are putting anti rollback which will hard brick your device.
Just buy nokia because android one is far better.

LoaderFabi said:
IMO the best Device in Years. Even w/o Root/BLU Android One is damn cool, I won't buy any Phone without One anymore. And having a 1/8" Jack which doens't suck (Compared to Sony's is Great), the SD Card Slot I can't live without having Hundreds of Gigabtes of Lossless Music, 16:9 but with Hardware Button seems more sensefull than 18:9 bc Videos still are 16:9 anyway, I still prefer IPS over OLED due to Burn-Ins... I haven't been Disappointed yet!
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Just buy nokia because android one is far better.
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Nokia 8 is not part of the android one program.

Kerri007 said:
Nokia 8 is not part of the android one program.
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Damn. Just looked it up, ur right.
But still, stock is clean as ****.

With the Bootloader officially unlockable there's another reason to go Nokia 8...

LoaderFabi said:
Damn. Just looked it up, ur right.
But still, stock is clean as ****.
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Atleast it close to stock google and so it almost identically same nonetheless except the late pie update

MrBelter said:
I've just bought the missus one, £250 with a 2 year warranty is a no brainer, you could pay more for a Moto G6 Plus and get Pie and the odd security update in about 18 months if you are lucky.
The camera isn't as bad as people seem to get rather heated about, it is a bit crap in low light but for most situations it is fine.
I have had mine 11 months and it has been nothing other than great.
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I've just bought one of these too, £259 John Lewis and I think it's a bargain. I bought it as my Moto G LTE needed to be retired and I was going to go for a Moto G6 but when I saw this it was too good a bargain to refuse. I agree with you about Moto's not so good update policy. So far so good with the Nokia 8 and it ticks all my boxes, never use a phone cam for anything other than the odd snap or car bump, I've a DSLR for proper photography so a phone cam never really enters the equation.

Razer Phone 2 purchase advice: Razer Phone 2 in 300€ promo for a non-gamer

Hello, folks!
I'm a humble xda forums lurker. I've been resorting to xda forums for all sorts of helpful tips and advice for my devices. However this time, I must ask instead of googling xD.
I've been a long time Samsung user. First the S3, then the S7 and now ... Well that's my issue right now. I can't decide on my next device. Looking to upgrade from my S7 to a better device, even though the Galaxy S7 is still a respectably good device. I came across the big promo for Razer Phone 2 and I've become tempted to purchase it. I had never heard about a gaming smartphone nor am I a mobile gamer. I don't play mobile games at all and I don't plan to in the near future. I'm looking for a device for media consumption like Netflix, HBO, Amazon Prime, podcast listening on commutes, ebook reading and overall as a sort of mobile, always with me, computer. As such, I value more good specs in terms of CPU, GPU, RAM, available storage (including expandable via microsd) than a camera phone which is what other competing phones tend to in terms of overall design. Despite being aware it is a smartphone "by gamers, for gamers", the special focus on specs not related to camera quality that the Razer Phone 2 seems to have is what made it more appealing to me than the competition, including the Oneplus 6T.
I have already purchased it within the promo available from Razer. However, I'm currently second-guessing my purchase, because I read a detailed review from gsmarena (Razer 2 Phone Review) that praises this phone, especially for the innovation it brings to the smartphone market, but made me wonder ... In their conclusion, they say "If you are simply looking for a great daily driver and simply stumbled here out of curiosity, our best advice is to keep looking. As a 2018 flagship Android smartphone, the Razer Phone 2 simply lags behind the competition in more than a few key aspects." Would you all agree with this assessment? For a non gamer even if a smartphone power user, another more well rounded device like the Oneplus 6T might be a more suitable purchase as a well-performing daily driver?

I'm not a big gamer, not in the slightest. I have used the OnePlus 6 T and saw dreadful battery drain! I previously had a Mate 10 Pro, fantastic battery, not the best performance.
Am I unhappy? No. Not in the slightest
Is this a good daily driver, yes.
I'm completely stock without root. The audio is incredible, battery life is great, and frankly I see no issues with the camera quality, but then again I am not expected DSLR quality from a phone like many other people.

This phone is perfect as a daily driver. Front facing speakers rock. Don't have any lag issues at all. Being in IT myself, I don't really game either, but it keeps up with how I multitask. My only negative is that the theme engine sucks, and can't use substratum yet. Otherwise, great Android experience being mostly stripped down.

Dominor said:
Hello, folks!
I'm a humble xda forums lurker. I've been resorting to xda forums for all sorts of helpful tips and advice for my devices. However this time, I must ask instead of googling xD.
I've been a long time Samsung user. First the S3, then the S7 and now ... Well that's my issue right now. I can't decide on my next device. Looking to upgrade from my S7 to a better device, even though the Galaxy S7 is still a respectably good device. I came across the big promo for Razer Phone 2 and I've become tempted to purchase it. I had never heard about a gaming smartphone nor am I a mobile gamer. I don't play mobile games at all and I don't plan to in the near future. I'm looking for a device for media consumption like Netflix, HBO, Amazon Prime, podcast listening on commutes, ebook reading and overall as a sort of mobile, always with me, computer. As such, I value more good specs in terms of CPU, GPU, RAM, available storage (including expandable via microsd) than a camera phone which is what other competing phones tend to in terms of overall design. Despite being aware it is a smartphone "by gamers, for gamers", the special focus on specs not related to camera quality that the Razer Phone 2 seems to have is what made it more appealing to me than the competition, including the Oneplus 6T.
I have already purchased it within the promo available from Razer. However, I'm currently second-guessing my purchase, because I read a detailed review from gsmarena (Razer 2 Phone Review) that praises this phone, especially for the innovation it brings to the smartphone market, but made me wonder ... In their conclusion, they say "If you are simply looking for a great daily driver and simply stumbled here out of curiosity, our best advice is to keep looking. As a 2018 flagship Android smartphone, the Razer Phone 2 simply lags behind the competition in more than a few key aspects." Would you all agree with this assessment? For a non gamer even if a smartphone power user, another more well rounded device like the Oneplus 6T might be a more suitable purchase as a well-performing daily driver?
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This Phone is absolutely a monster, One PLus 6T is not near, for the price is a great deal!

It's a great phone and you can greatly appreciate the 120hz display outside of games, and if you run the screen at 90 hz and turn off the chroma logo it has fantastic battery life.

Ty so much for the input, addressing most of the points I expected. I was especially concerned for the expectable battery life.
Btw, since I'm here how do you feel about outdoor use. I'm asking this, because in some reviews I read, it was mentioned that, despite the improvement in max brightness to its predecessor, Razer Phone 2 still is worse than competitors regarding use under direct sunlight. It's not decision-changing most likely, but I'd like to know what to expect.

Dominor said:
Ty so much for the input, addressing most of the points I expected. I was especially concerned for the expectable battery life.
Btw, since I'm here how do you feel about outdoor use. I'm asking this, because in some reviews I read, it was mentioned that, despite the improvement in max brightness to its predecessor, Razer Phone 2 still is worse than competitors regarding use under direct sunlight. It's not decision-changing most likely, but I'd like to know what to expect.
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In terms of brightness after the pie update I keep my phone at 10% brightness (auto disabled) for indoor use. In direct sun I push the slider to about 50% and the screen is perfectly viewable to me. The rare times I up the brightness to about 100% is when I have to have a barcode scanned off the device for in-store pickup orders.
The only thing that matters is that the device bright enough for your eyes if so and you like the rest of the device and get a good deal on it keep it.

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In terms of brightness after the pie update I keep my phone at 10% brightness (auto disabled) for indoor use. In direct sun I push the slider to about 50% and the screen is perfectly viewable to me. The rare times I up the brightness to about 100% is when I have to have a barcode scanned off the device for in-store pickup orders.
The only thing that matters is that the device bright enough for your eyes if so and you like the rest of the device and get a good deal on it keep it.
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Thank you for your helpful input. Sadly, I'm not going to be able to test it in person, because I live in an island and no store has this phone, so I'm going to trust you all on this.
Cheers,
Hope I can be the one helping one-day.

Everything is perfect except the hearing issue. I owned 6T Pixel 3 XL Note 9 ane non is over hearting. I have to reduce the screen resolution to 1080 FullHD instead. It seems better but not the best among flagship categories.

keaheng said:
Everything is perfect except the hearing issue. I owned 6T Pixel 3 XL Note 9 ane non is over hearting. I have to reduce the screen resolution to 1080 FullHD instead. It seems better but not the best among flagship categories.
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I'm sorry, what do you mean by over hearting?
Too loud?

keaheng said:
Everything is perfect except the hearing issue. I owned 6T Pixel 3 XL Note 9 ane non is over hearting. I have to reduce the screen resolution to 1080 FullHD instead. It seems better but not the best among flagship categories.
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The only time that I feel like the phone is hotter then it should be is if I have the chroma logo on all the time, but even that has stopped with Pie. Additionally if you do want to reduce your settings to help with it, changing the refresh rate to 90hz and completely turning off the chroma logo should be first before turning down your screen resolution. Also pay close attention to your battery life when it gets hot. If your battery life is very bad then you should be looking into what apps you have installed to see if any of them are constantly using a bunch of your battery. If none of these work, then you should really contact Razer about the problem.

I'm a big gamer, but I don't play mobile games. I love the high refresh rate and stock Android after coming from the Samsung S8. I really like the phone in general, my only complaint is the lack of LDAC which is noticeable with my headphones.

Well, I've just picked up the Razer Phone 2. Waiting till I get home to power it up. Thank you all for your input. Really decisive.