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I attempted to download an application from the google play site via my PC. I had to use google because the application is not on the Amazon store but have I used google play once before and it worked OK.
Having ordered the app and got confirmation I was surprised that the download did not appear on my phone.
I tried running google play store on the phone and it gave an error message that said it cannot connect.
I stopped the play store and google play services applications, cleared the data etc and tried again, even went back to system application by clearing updates but still not working.
Now the play application just starts and immediately stops when I tap it.
I have as much as possible of the toy applications disabled because I use this phone for business and I wonder if at some time over the past weeks I have disabled an application that the google play store application needs?
Other than google play store and google play services are there any other apps that should be running?
I have google play store running 1 process and 1 service and google play services running 2 processes and 2 services.
Amazon appstore works OK
Regards
Please ignore this, turns out I had logged out of googlemail and this stops playstore.
Cannot find a way to delete this post so can only edit
Regards
I could use some help setting up a secondary user profile for my tablet.
I recently bought the $50 Fire tablet. I immediately used RootJunky's batch files to install the Play Store, remove lock screen ads, disable OTA updates, root, and replace the stock launcher. I then logged into my Amazon account to set up the main user profile. I removed a bunch of Amazon bloat and the tablet is working perfectly as a proper Android tablet.
I ran into trouble, however, when I tried to set up a second user profile for my wife. She logged in using her Amazon credentials and went through the standard set up processes. After finishing all that, the lock screen showed up, she swiped up, and nothing. No launcher or anything. Just the home screen wallpaper.
While logged into her profile, I tried re-running RootJunky's Play Store install batch file. I got errors, though, telling me all of those files were already installed on the device.
Navigating through the settings, I managed to get into the Amazon app store and install OneDrive. From there I was able to install some APKs. I managed to install Nova Launcher so she has a working launcher. I also installed the Play Store. The Play Store, however, wouldn't open. It just flashed a white screen and then shut down. After installing the Google Login Service it now prompts to enter Google credentials to log in. After doing so, however, it says it couldn't connect to Google's servers. I am unable to install either the Google Play Services APK or the Google Services Framework APK. After not being able to install them from OneDrive, I downloaded them to internal storage and they wouldn't install from there, either.
I have confirmed that she has root access. I have Root Browser installed to her profile and can access the entire device storage.
Can anyone help me out? Something tells me there's a simple solution here, since the device is rooted and all of the programs/services necessary for logging into a Google account are already installed on the device. Would locating the necessary files and copying them to system work?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
brewerywagon said:
I could use some help setting up a secondary user profile for my tablet.
I recently bought the $50 Fire tablet. I immediately used RootJunky's batch files to install the Play Store, remove lock screen ads, disable OTA updates, root, and replace the stock launcher. I then logged into my Amazon account to set up the main user profile. I removed a bunch of Amazon bloat and the tablet is working perfectly as a proper Android tablet.
I ran into trouble, however, when I tried to set up a second user profile for my wife. She logged in using her Amazon credentials and went through the standard set up processes. After finishing all that, the lock screen showed up, she swiped up, and nothing. No launcher or anything. Just the home screen wallpaper.
While logged into her profile, I tried re-running RootJunky's Play Store install batch file. I got errors, though, telling me all of those files were already installed on the device.
Navigating through the settings, I managed to get into the Amazon app store and install OneDrive. From there I was able to install some APKs. I managed to install Nova Launcher so she has a working launcher. I also installed the Play Store. The Play Store, however, wouldn't open. It just flashed a white screen and then shut down. After installing the Google Login Service it now prompts to enter Google credentials to log in. After doing so, however, it says it couldn't connect to Google's servers. I am unable to install either the Google Play Services APK or the Google Services Framework APK. After not being able to install them from OneDrive, I downloaded them to internal storage and they wouldn't install from there, either.
I have confirmed that she has root access. I have Root Browser installed to her profile and can access the entire device storage.
Can anyone help me out? Something tells me there's a simple solution here, since the device is rooted and all of the programs/services necessary for logging into a Google account are already installed on the device. Would locating the necessary files and copying them to system work?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I think you should re-enable temporarily the stock launcher, that might be your problem. Then, you can set up another launcher and re-hide the stock one.
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I think you should re-enable temporarily the stock launcher, that might be your problem. Then, you can set up another launcher and re-hide the stock one.
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Thanks for the response.
The launcher isn't the problem. I managed to get Nova Launcher installed on the secondary profile, so I do currently have a working launcher.
The problem is that I can't get logged into a Google account, therefore I can't get into the Google Play Store. That's the problem I'm trying to solve. And as I mentioned originally, the Play Store and other Google apps are working just fine on the primary user profile.
If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. Thanks.
How to have side-loaded apps (including those requiring Google services) show up and work on a Child Profile.
It its a processes and maybe there is another way, but I couldn't find it. Here's how I did it:
Primary Account
Install ES File Explorer from Amazon App store
Install Kids Folder from Amazon App store
Download and Install Google Account Manager - This should prompt you to allow Unknown Sources from Settings
Download and Install Google Services Framework
Download and Install Google Play Services
Download and Install Google Play Store
Primary Account - Setup Google Play
Launch Google Play and add account
Install MyAppSharer
Install YouTube Kids
Primary Account - Prep Files for Child Profile
Open MyAppSharer
Select YouTube Kids and export to SdCard Download folder
Open ES File Explorer
From the left menu, Select Download folder, copy the YoutTube APK, (also copy all 4 Google APKs), select SdCard and paste it at the root of the card
Primary Account - Add Content to Child Profile
From tablet Settings->Profiles and Library, select child profile
Add Content, Share Content
Click Games & Apps
Select Kids Folder, ES File Explorer
Primary Account - Uninstall Play Services
This has to be uninstalled before it can be installed on the child profile
Settings->Apps & Games->Manage All Apps, Uninstall Google Play Services
Child Profile -Google APKs
Switch to Child Profile
Open ES File Explorer
Select SD Card
Install All Google APKs - This should prompt you to allow Unknown Sources from Settings
Install YouTube Kids apk
Open Kids Folder and configure child
Click Manage apps, choose YouTube Kids. Play Store, Click OK
Click on YT Kids
Child Profile - GO!
From Kid Folder open Play Store
Complete Signing in, then exit once at the store
From Kid Folder open YouTube Kids
Complete parent signup and select your Google account to continue
YAY!
Notes:
- I was able to go back to the Primary account and reinstall Google Play Services. It told my to sign in, but then it said the account already existed. Simply backing a step or two let it finish the signup process.
- Play store download does not seem to work under the child profile. Simply use the primary account to download new apps/games, then use MyAppSharer to create APK and repeat the copy and install process for that app.
- I think I got all the steps noted here. If not let me know!
reserving for updates, I guess...
No longer working..at least for me..
Is there a way to have Youtube Kids or other sideloaded apps show up in Amazon FreeTime?
So this method no longer works, sadly. (Fire 10)
- "Kid Folder" no longer populates *any* apps including YT Kids or Play store.
- "GoToApp Full" also suffers from the same problem.
So, you can isntall apps, but you have no access to them from the Freetime app which is what is being used as a launcher for child profiles.
Any ideas?
Same as greenlndr
So this method no longer works, sadly. (Kids Fire 10)
Open ES File Explorer not allowed permission to the storage now.
"kids folder" seems to be dead: doesn't do more than the setup dialogue over and over again.
The "gotoapp full" works for me, but it is horribly designed (black text on black background) and translated... AND there is no parental lock included: your kid can access ALL apps through it through the menues.
JackOrJohn said:
"kids folder" seems to be dead: doesn't do more than the setup dialogue over and over again.
The "gotoapp full" works for me, but it is horribly designed (black text on black background) and translated... AND there is no parental lock included: your kid can access ALL apps through it through the menues.
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Hi,
I got it to work
2 things:
1. Make sure you download the latest GPS APK - the link above is not the latest. (scroll down the page to see the latest one)
2. when prompted to enter pin for kids folder........................don't put anything and it will go through. not happy about leaving the pin blank but the kid will need to figure out you have to press and hold the balloons to edit.
Hope this helps everyone
I’m confused. Can’t get past the ES File Explorer on the kids screen. Asks to be a premium member to install third party applications. No way around it.
I did a search for "kids folder" on my son's tablet and it did not come up! Any ideas what I should do?
JackOrJohn said:
"kids folder" seems to be dead: doesn't do more than the setup dialogue over and over again.
The "gotoapp full" works for me, but it is horribly designed (black text on black background) and translated... AND there is no parental lock included: your kid can access ALL apps through it through the menues.
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The "no parental lock" is my issue as well. The whole idea of the child profile is to lock them out of things you choose. I needed gotoapp to install Khan Academy (only available on GPS-not amazon apps) into my son's child profile (HD8 7th gen). I got it to to work but found that, with a little playing with the menus, my son could easily enable any app I had installed in my parent profile. This defeats the whole purpose of using a child profile.
So, I'm back to square one. How to install apps from the GPS into a child's profile while still having parent control over app accessibility?
Any fix for this yet please guys? I've sideloaded GPS and installed apps through there but frustrating I can't get them into my daughter's profile. TIA
Edit: I'm stuck on the Kids Folder app looping at first opening of the app.
sorry, see below
Teoman079 said:
sorry, see below
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It works with goto app full (I cannot post links)
english: amazon . com/gp/product/?ASIN=B007TLGPQ6
german: amazon . de/gp/product/?ASIN=B007TLGPQ6
BUT there is NO parental lock in goto app. You can preselect the apps your kids should see in goto app. But If your child is old / smart enough, he/she can find out how to add more apps that you don't want your kid to use. Having said that, the kid is still not able to start all of these apps. It still requires that this app is installed in kids profile.
For example, I go to kids profile, pretending to be the child. Starting gotoapp, adding Silk Browser (even my dad didn't want me to use it). Then I start Silk Browser, but it will close immediately. Because it is not installed in the kids profile.
Antoher example. If the kid adds settins in gotoapp, he/she can start android settings. Play around.
So it's still kind of restricted, not the perfect way though.
For me it's ok until there is a better solution.
Update: I realized that screen time is not reduced, if you use sideloaded apps in freetime. So this is a big disadvantage.
RocketApps
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KwarkLabs said:
Advert Disclaimer but there's a new app launcher for the Kindle Fire called RocketApps which has PIN code protected settings and can be used on the Kids Edition with FreeTime too. You can find it in the Amazon AppStore. #Ad #Advert
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Is the in freetime configured time periode elapsing when the kids uses the apps via the launcher (RocketApps)?
So say I configured 30 Minutes and my kid is going to start apps via RocketApps. After 30 minutes is it over or is it so to say infinite?
RocketApps and parental controls
Teoman79 said:
Is the in freetime configured time periode elapsing when the kids uses the apps via the launcher (RocketApps)?
So say I configured 30 Minutes and my kid is going to start apps via RocketApps. After 30 minutes is it over or is it so to say infinite?
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Thanks for your question about RocketApps Teoman79.
Whether the FreeTime parental controls apply to an app is not connected with how the app is launched or installed. It is only dependent on whether the app has been added to the list of allowed apps in the Amazon parents dashboard. All FreeTime parental controls will apply to an app which is on the allowed list if it is launched through RocketApps. There are also Amazon apps installed in the Kindle Fire Kids profile by default which are not on the allowed list – Amazon Music for example. If you launch Amazon Music without adding it to the allowed list then the time-based parental controls do not apply.
If you want to add time-based parental controls for apps that are not on the FreeTime allowed list then you could try using an additional parental control app. One example is "Limitly" which is free and can be sideloaded. You will need RocketApps to launch and configure Limitly. Like RocketApps, Limitly is protected using it's own PIN code. Hope this answers your question and helps.
KwarkLabs said:
Thanks for your question about RocketApps Teoman79.
Whether the FreeTime parental controls apply to an app is not connected with how the app is launched or installed. It is only dependent on whether the app has been added to the list of allowed apps in the Amazon parents dashboard. All FreeTime parental controls will apply to an app which is on the allowed list if it is launched through RocketApps. There are also Amazon apps installed in the Kindle Fire Kids profile by default which are not on the allowed list – Amazon Music for example. If you launch Amazon Music without adding it to the allowed list then the time-based parental controls do not apply.
If you want to add time-based parental controls for apps that are not on the FreeTime allowed list then you could try using an additional parental control app. One example is "Limitly" which is free and can be sideloaded. You will need RocketApps to launch and configure Limitly. Like RocketApps, Limitly is protected using it's own PIN code. Hope this answers your question and helps.
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If sideload an app on the kids side It will not show up and my son has absolutely no way to access it.
Does Rocketapps see these sideloaded apps and give him access to the sideloaded apps?, or is the launcher only for apps installed through the amazon store?
Just want to make sure before paying for the app. Everything I seem to try is not working for me.
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I also want to confirm, this app only allows access to the apps that I choose?? Apps I don't want my son to use will not be accessable?
The last time I used one of these launcher apps my son was able to get into the settings menu and accidentally formatted the tablet!!
RocketApps for sideloaded apps on Amazon Kindle Fire
ThaDraGun said:
If sideload an app on the kids side It will not show up and my son has absolutely no way to access it.
Does Rocketapps see these sideloaded apps and give him access to the sideloaded apps?, or is the launcher only for apps installed through the amazon store?
Just want to make sure before paying for the app. Everything I seem to try is not working for me.
Edit:
I also want to confirm, this app only allows access to the apps that I choose?? Apps I don't want my son to use will not be accessable?
The last time I used one of these launcher apps my son was able to get into the settings menu and accidentally formatted the tablet!!
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Sorry to hear about your formatting incident, that was particularly unfortunate! Yes, RocketApps should see all apps regardless of how they were installed. If you find an app that doesn't show up in RocketApps then please do let us know via the email link on the Amazon AppStore listing. And yes, RocketApps only enables the selected apps to be launched. The RockeApps PIN code is needed to alter the list of the apps. Please also note that, as mentioned above, the Amazon FreeTime time limits become "soft" limits with apps that have not been installed via the Amazon parental controls. That means the timers do not interrupt a running application. If "hard" time limits that do interrupt a running app are important to you then you could look at installing an additional parental contol app alongside RocketApps. Hope that helps.
Hi,
RocketApps has better graphics than GotoApps.
But it`s not working for me.
No one of the Apps installed via Google Play on my "adult" profile is shown on the RocketApps on the kids profile.
Could you help me?
Thanks
Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
lxmeta said:
Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
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ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
MishaalRahman said:
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
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Let's try this one, as I neither can upload images nor post regular links yet "https://1drv.ms/f/s!AlBLD_fEYNd1xQL44nzSLry-EZoM"
DKXC said:
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
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Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
lxmeta said:
Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
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Yep I have a Fire 7, 5th generation. Disabled some bloat and removed lockscreen ads, it performs /okay/ now, but great to hear that the new Fire 8 performs good! Excited to test it out on Saturday.
lxmeta said:
ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
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Quick update. Realised that I was sloppy on the OS version: After the initial update it's 6.3.0.1. A reasonably clean Android 7.something
So far pretty much everything seems to work as wished. I usually install apps from the fire store if available, and then from play if I don't have the choice.
I have now Chrome, hangouts, hangouts meet, both with two accounts (enterprise and personal). Goole Play Music, Canon Camera Remote (Fuji is on the fire store) etc running.
Also my microsoft account works well, no issues with onedrive etc... For Skype I'm using the Kindle version.
One note: don't forget to enable the lock screen if you want to add a google enterprise account. Otherwise it will simply fail to log on, without a direct useful error message!
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
Google Play services won't run unless you update Google Play services
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
BilboSwaggins69 said:
I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
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Strange Google Play Books won't even install unless Google Play Services gets updated. Thanks though.
PSULightingGuy said:
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
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I've got the exact same problems on my new fire HD
Same problem! Repeat loop and back to sign in.
JSunsurn said:
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
Same issue continuous login loop
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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I can login to Google in Silk.
All versions are the following:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi (040400-213742215)
Google Play store 11.9.14-all 214884739
I have dual factor authentication on my Google account which requires me saying yes to an authorization prompt on my phone.
That seems to work though because after that I am prompted in the Google Play app with terms of service. When I accept them, it goes back to the login prompt, requiring me to enter my credentials again. This loop didn't end even after five attempts.
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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If you need something now return it and look elsewhere. Otherwise look for a workaround in the coming weeks. This doesn't feel like a showstopper issue.
PSULightingGuy said:
Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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Sorry to hear. Looks like something is behaving differently on your Fire.
You could try a complete reset and do it all over again if you are feeling adventurous.. Though I have heard that doing the same thing all over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity
I do not 2FA on my google account, so that could have triggered it.
btw.: Did you also have the message about updating google play service after google play store the first time? Apparently my google play services framework still seems to have the same version number... Just looking for things that went differently on your setup.
Returning sounds like a good plan if an android tablet is what you really want.
According to this article, Google apps are not supposed to work on the newest Amazon devices. It also mentions something called "Yalp Store" which might be interesting.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/new...-amazon-no-more-android-apps-fire-os-0183744/
Also: I am not sure if the Launcher Hijack apk v.3 is working on the new Fire 8, but I found a new launcher called "Flick Launcher" which allows you to set a custom action for the home button. Set the home button to open Flick Launcher (open itself), and it will go to home screen. It will require the pro version which is $2.50. I don't have a Fire 8 8th gen to test it on, but it does work on my Fire 7 7th gen, and my Moto E Play. It's very slow getting to the home screen on the Fire 7, which has Lollipop, but it's a lot faster on my phone, which has Oreo, so it might be faster on Nougat. I am not sure if this is a definite solution, but it could be.
Hey guys, long time lurker around xda and after purposely getting a huawei gms-less phone to see how it would go I ran into some frustrations learning that apks from the playstore whether from downloads or aurora store app etc, nothing would deliver notifications. My huawei is a nova7se but I had a friend test this on his and it is working as well so I presume it works for all huawei/googleless devices to a point.
The goal of this was to find a way to get notifications from playstore apps such as discord, outlook email , banking apps etc. This is not a replacement for google services apis needed for games or google apps which rely on services framework to operate in general.
A few things
-MUST BE CLEAN GOOGLE-LESS PHONE**
-Does not need root/bootloader unlocked
-Does not need sketchy downloads from random sites formatting recovery/ota/hisuite backups etc
-Mostly all open source
-Easily reversible and minimal risk
-All done through phone without additional mods or adb
-Not all apps will work for notification services for this depending on how the original developer team wrote the app to handle this situations. For example: discord, outlook, capital one bank, chase bank, apps work but protonmail did not want to connect to microg for notifications and I have not been able to successfully trick it to connect to it yet)
- APKS MUST BE FROM PLAY STORE ORIGINALLY. Using fdroid variants or personal stuff probably wont work since those packages did not rely on google notification services. I know some apps have a standalone apk you can download externally from the source but it may differ in its functionality.
-THIS IS NOT GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES AND WILL NOT MAKE GOOGLE APPS WORK. The reason it is not working for your google apps and games is because it was never supposed to. Dx
**By "google-less" phone I am referring to not having any leftover packages from attempting to install gms on the device. Google packages conflict with microG and will not be compatible. If you have used lzplay or other methods to attempt to get some form of playstore working, then you will most likely have google packages installed somewhere even if it failed to get GMS working perfectly. Keep this in mind if you get installation issues. Ideally if you are not using the phone as a daily, factory reset it to original settings if possible to ensure cleanest install if you want to pursue this.
STEP 1)
Download microG apps.
-microG services core
(optional)
- **microG services framework proxy
- **microG droidguard helper (? no idea if this is needed but was in my downloads for microg testing)
**the services framework proxy and droidguardhelper were part of the original experiment but later on I managed to get notifications running without needed either one of these.
Easiest way is to use fdroid store app and to add in microg repo found here.
https://f-droid.org/
https://github.com/microg/android_packages_apps_GmsCore/wiki/Downloads
Step 2)
Open microg settings app - self check
-Signature spoofing will not work because we have no access to anything on the phone system wise
-Installed packages should have "playservices gms core installed" and "services framework installed" checked only (see picture)
-Grant permissions and select to ignore battery optimization (so the service is not closed in background)
Step 3)
MicroG settings main menu
-Turn on google device registration
-Turn on google cloud messaging
-Turn on google safetynet (probably is not actually doing anything but turn it on for good measure)
-Add google account (Does not appear to be needed since it did not do anything specific relating to notifs)
Step 4)
Download aurora store.
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.aurora.store/
or
https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore
Fdroid route is easiest if you used it to install microg apps.
(Why aurorastore? Why not? The main reason is because it accesses google play store apps which inturn are the apks which are known to use google play services for notifications. Downloading an apk from another origin might not be the playstore version making it not really work with this process)
Step 5)
Download apps as needed with aurora store,
In phone settings, make sure you disable auto management of background apps.
Settings-battery-applaunch. Set apps like outlook, discord etc to manual and turn all settings to on (auto launch/run in background/secondary lauch).
Optional step 6) In aurora store settings , add microg apps to blacklist so aurora store does not try to update microg with play services which will erase micro g and give you a systemless apk of play services which does absolutely nothing.
Thats basically it. I was so caught up on trying to find ways to break into my nova 7se's bootloader and attempted to sideload microg for authentic playstore functionality and playservices but as long as notifications are working, aurora store + notifs is all the functionality I need.
No offense to those offering other ways to add in gms to huawei phones but as a security minded individual, it seems like too much of a risk to use randomly hosted internet files overwriting system functionality.
If you go into microg settings and under "google cloud messaging" you can see which apps are being monitored for notifications. Once I restarted my device, its status turned to disconnected but still catches notifications for outlook and discord as I tested. This is not using microg as a replacement for playservices because again this is ONLY FOR NOTIFICATION USAGE in this implementation.
Hope this helps anyone who wants to be able to use some google play apps but had notification issues.
It is not working as i kept getting error to install microG Services Core due to "Failed to install due to an unknown error" on my Huawei P40 Pro
zoold3vil said:
It is not working as i kept getting error to install microG Services Core due to "Failed to install due to an unknown error" on my Huawei P40 Pro
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If you have any google core packages installed (even as regular systemless apps) or leftovers from previous attempts at getting gms installed then it will conflict with microg installation since it sees it as a conflicting app. This requires a clean almost factory emui without any remnants of google installation attempts. Ill update the initial post for that bit of info.
This is only for notifications, right?
I mean, this doesn't allow you to use YouTube, Gmail, Keep etc...?
i did played with microG Services as well befire... but ended up in still having the original play services installed, did tested now again with microG services and now, outlook, whatsapp, Microsoft Authenticator and Launcher only force closes... what ah mess
futureshock said:
i did played with microG Services as well befire... but ended up in still having the original play services installed, did tested now again with microG services and now, outlook, whatsapp, Microsoft Authenticator and Launcher only force closes... what ah mess
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Don't worry, you just have to reinstall every app that force closes.
sheikgr said:
This is only for notifications, right?
I mean, this doesn't allow you to use YouTube, Gmail, Keep etc...?
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Correct. I stumbled upon this accidentally while trying to figure out a way to enable 'oem unlock' in my nova7se since huawei blocked even adb shell sysprop access to change the setting. Its not a full implementation of microG and probably is not intended to be used this way but it gets notifications through which is a plus when pulling apks from play store. Theres no xda forum for the nova7se but figured Id share it here D:
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i did played with microG Services as well befire... but ended up in still having the original play services installed, did tested now again with microG services and now, outlook, whatsapp, Microsoft Authenticator and Launcher only force closes... what ah mess
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Yea unfortunatly any attempts with getting original play services installed sort of messes with this. Preferably a clean install/phone reset is ideal starting point. App wise you might have to clear cache and data so it 'resets' which is almost the same as uninstalling and reinstalling the apps. You will still get the message that "this app wont function without play services" since you cant spoof it entirely and on some you might have to find the setting to turn notifications off and back on in the app themselves. If it shows up on microG's setting under 'google cloud messaging' option, it is working. Ive been using the nova7se for a couple days now testing it as a daily user, restarted it occasionally and things are functioning similar to regular android phones(notification wise). Just be sure to allow the app to run in background so the system battery saver/app launch process does not turn it off.
as i say'd i did played a little bit with microG services, but for example, even when reinstalling the apps afterwards, whatsapp does start, and you need to relogin, but on the restore backup screen nothing more happens, only loading forever, when microG Services are installed..
another interessting i found out right now, when the apps force closes, when putting the phone into airplane mode, the apps does open normally!
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as i say'd i did played a little bit with microG services, but for example, even when reinstalling the apps afterwards, whatsapp does start, and you need to relogin, but on the restore backup screen nothing more happens, only loading forever, when microG Services are installed..
another interessting i found out right now, when the apps force closes, when putting the phone into airplane mode, the apps does open normally!
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Oh ok I get what you are talking about now. Backup functionality (for whatsapp) I believe uses google drive account which microG in this sense is not going to provide. Just a friendly reminder that this process is for push notifications only and not google api usage. provided by play services
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as i say'd i did played a little bit with microG services, but for example, even when reinstalling the apps afterwards, whatsapp does start, and you need to relogin, but on the restore backup screen nothing more happens, only loading forever, when microG Services are installed..
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maybe i found there a bug of whatsapp... as whatsapp trys to find google drive... but does not work correctly it loads forever... for some reason it looks like it ah hidden error message or something like this... i hit back a couple of times, and closed whatsapp and reopend, and suddenly i saw the no backup found page... anyway still all this is BS, i really hate huawei for not unlocking the bootloader, and let us just do what we like to do... there wouldn't even be an issue with GMS anymore as we simply could flash openGapps
So, you did found a new way, GMS + HMS enabled with no notification error? Am i right?
hayals said:
So, you did found a new way, GMS + HMS enabled with no notification error? Am i right?
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So the statement is a bit misleading, this is not really GMS but its a way to use 3rd party play store apps that would not give notifications because of play services missing. This will only cover the notification portion of apps/apks originally found in the playstore that require notifications through play services push notifications. I have not touched HMS or anything else but this basically inserts a listener under microG to monitor push notifications and deliver them as needed. Again this does not resolve the issue of missing google APIs found in the full GMS package and is not intended to do so. Strictly notification wise for apps that need them.
Personally I used aurora store to get apks from playstore without needing playstore installed (because playstore version apps are looking to use googles push notification services) but how those apps function is another story. For example: Youtube/maps/google pay etc will not work as they need google apis. But 3rd party apps like discord, outlook email, and banking apps like capital one etc do work. Games might not because they might want play games api which is not present here since this is not GMS. (Tried to fun cytus 2 and a few other games and it wouldnt start since license check fails by default)
To my knowledge this will not work with any other GMS procedure attempted so you cannot combine this with a working GMS hacked install since you will have a version of play services and gsf framework active. Think of this as another alternative entirely in a way if you want to not risk questionable modifications and want to stay on default HMS software. Idk what the future holds as huawei seems to block ways to get GMS on phones after they become popular so I see this as an alternative to the unknown with pulled playstore apks functioning as they should.
GMS and this fix won't cooperate.
I've been using this for a while, but sadly not apps are giving me notifications. Reddit for example is not sending anything to my phone.
I did a factory reset on my P40 Pro followed the guide and when you wrote to add an account I do so, I press Agree and then it stays on
Just a sec
Your device is contacting Google to
save information on your account
This can take a couple of minutes
Sorry
There was a problem communicating with Google Servers
Try again later.
And anything like games that use google to login it fails too
GrimTech said:
I did a factory reset on my P40 Pro followed the guide and when you wrote to add an account I do so, I press Agree and then it stays on
Just a sec
Your device is contacting Google to
save information on your account
This can take a couple of minutes
Sorry
There was a problem communicating with Google Servers
Try again later.
And anything like games that use google to login it fails too
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Unfortunatly for something like that theres too many factors at play to trouble shoot that from my end. I would say to try a different default browser/vpn it etc as it could be any number of reasons why google servers arent connecting for it. Games that use google wont work because this is not google play services replacement. This was only intended for getting notifications working with most* apps that rely on a simple push notification service through google play services. Unfortunatly this isnt a guarentee depending on the app itself and where its pulled from . This was why I use/suggest aurora store since its pulling the playstore version of the app which almost always relies on google services for notifications.
Some apps like discord, outlook etc have a manner of continuous notification scanning in the background processes to try to get itself to connect to a push service even if they give you the error that "the device does not have google services and might not work properly". I can confirm those are working as are my banking and authenticator apps. I had an issue with proton mail specifically where it wouldnt attempt another push notification check to register with microg like the previous apps and wont recieve notifications. Its not a magic bullet but helps where it works.
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If you have any google core packages installed (even as regular systemless apps) or leftovers from previous attempts at getting gms installed then it will conflict with microg installation since it sees it as a conflicting app. This requires a clean almost factory emui without any remnants of google installation attempts. Ill update the initial post for that bit of info.
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Thanks for the info
I still can't open google related apps like youtube or google app itself... Even with Vanced youtube, it is hard to keep up because I can't log in, so i can't have my subscriptions and updates. Also certain games can't be played because the data are connected to my Google Play
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..So does the MicroG method still work in 2021 or with the latest version of the OS?
arsenal74 said:
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..So does the MicroG method still work in 2021 or with the latest version of the OS?
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Yes it does work with EMUI11.
Only advantage it's easier to install and Get push Notification and not mush else.
Now This is the only way you can install with Vanced Manager