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When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
cbgnl said:
When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
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Have you put the slider to best performance rather than best battery?
Yes i did
never had the problem with the tytn and wizard.
I only get that on my TyTN II when I'm far away from the router and the signal strength is low. If you've already set the performance vs battery life slider to give maximum performance as suggested by kareem9nba and it's still behaving as reported, what happens when you're near to the router?
If it's just that your saying the range isn't as good as youve been used to with other devices, I have nothing to compare my TyTN II with as this is my first WiFi capable ppc - but I'm sure other more experienced members here will be able to comment. If you're near to the router where there's no doubt it should be working fine and still getting problems then thats a different matter.
maybe your router needs a restart or maybe its just faulty.
have you tried other devices with same router?
try a wifi sniffer/scanner see what happens (a good example would be PeekPocket)
mospantagruel said:
maybe your router needs a restart or maybe its just faulty.
have you tried other devices with same router?
try a wifi sniffer/scanner see what happens (a good example would be PeekPocket)
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All other devices doenst have the problem output signal is ok but i ll try peekpocket
Flying Kiwi said:
I have nothing to compare my TyTN II with
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I do! My Kaiser's performance is on a par with my old HTC Universal, which is to say, they are both terrible at getting a signal. I don't think my Kaiser is faulty as back in the Universal forums, it was often commented how useless the WiFi was in comparison to other machines. I used to have a HP Ipaq 5450 which could get a signal upto approx 20m from my router, my laptop starts struggling at around 50m. The Universal could just about get a signal upto 4m away, the Kaiser is no better.
I realise much of this is due router location and the fact that I was trying to get WiFi in my garage, but in my bedroom with a full signal on the laptop, the HTC devices struggle to get more than 1 bar and if I move 10cm further away from the router the signal goes completely.
I think the WiFi on the Universal and the Kaiser just isn't that powerful. I guess it's Maximum Performance setting is still quite low power in order to save battery life. Wonder if there is a registry tweek to increase the power to the WiFi card, and if doing that would blow the card?!
Steve-C said:
The Universal could just about get a signal upto 4m away, the Kaiser is no better.
I realise much of this is due router location and the fact that I was trying to get WiFi in my garage, but in my bedroom with a full signal on the laptop, the HTC devices struggle to get more than 1 bar and if I move 10cm further away from the router the signal goes completely.
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I'm using an 11 Mbps Wifi capable router (about 2003 vintage) and even with a wall and a floor between my TyTN II and the router it still works about 15 m away, I've yet to try any further as that'd be outside the house. I was impressed to see it even detected other WiFi sources in the area though. I found that even though the signal quality bar was fluctuating, my web browsing still worked OK. Bumping the slider towards the performance end did make a difference to the signal quality indicator (although it still fluctuated). If your TyTN II is only working up to 4 m from your router then I think there's a fault with either device, you should be getting better than that.
I can connect to my linksys WRT54G when beside the it and 20mt away. Even when beside it the TynII will cycle off (disconnect) and then reconnect again. I thought it was signal strength but I am beginning to think its just a crappy wifi setup on the tyn. I also have my slider on best performance.
Flying Kiwi said:
I'm using an 11 Mbps Wifi capable router (about 2003 vintage)
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Funny that, so am I! However I bought it because it was cheap and I really didn't know much about WiFi etc several years ago when I bought it. I notice many routers come with external antenna's, mine is all internal so I would think that it's more my router isn't that powerful, combined with the Kaiser having a less powerful WiFi set-up that older models. To be fair, the Ipaq had an external antenna (of sorts, a little lump on top) and my previous laptops didn't have built in WiFi, their external WiFi adaptors also had external antenna's.
Frankly I think that all this internalisation of components is having a negative impact on signal strength and range. To compare I have a GSM car kit with an external antenna that picks up a much better signal than a phone on it's own. Likewise my GPS can be connected to an external antenna and I've noticed when connected it will pick up more satalites, with a stronger lock, than when on it's built in antenna. It also picks up more than the Kaiser (internal antenna) or Universal (external bluetooth GPS with internal antenna) ever do.
Still, it all just about works for my needs, so I'm going to leave well alone!
Juzzman said:
I can connect to my linksys WRT54G when beside the it and 20mt away. Even when beside it the TynII will cycle off (disconnect) and then reconnect again. I thought it was signal strength but I am beginning to think its just a crappy wifi setup on the tyn. I also have my slider on best performance.
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i have the same problem... i hope that's a firmware problem....
checked
i checked signal and even did hard reset on kaiser.
i still have full signal and goes to zero all the time
no clue here
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i have the same problem... i hope that's a firmware problem....
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But does this actually affect your browsing? In the end the signal quality bar can do whatever it wants as long as the data still gets through as far as I'm concerned and for me that’s happening. My hunch is that the reason why the signal quality bar intermittently dips down (even when nearby a router) is associated with power management on the TyTN II (which will still be in place to a certain degree even when the performance vs. battery life slider is fully at the performance end).
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But does this actually affect your browsing? In the end the signal quality bar can do whatever it wants as long as the data still gets through as far as I'm concerned and for me that’s happening. My hunch is that the reason why the signal quality bar intermittently dips down (even when nearby a router) is associated with power management on the TyTN II (which will still be in place to a certain degree even when the performance vs. battery life slider is fully at the performance end).
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really i can't connect to my wifi router, while other hardware can (a laptop for example). it loops from "connecting" to "available" with 5 bars. but nevers connect or never shows an error. i tried open, WEP, WPA, WPA2 with no results... its a compatibility problem of TYTN II with some routers....
i hope that upgrading firmware, this problem dissapear....
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My experience isn't that the signal itself is particlarly poor, but that it can be prone to loose connection regularly if its very weak. Atm I'm sitting some 150m from the accesspoint (quite powerfull transmitter), through a couple of concrete walls and its fast, as in almost so fast as the Kaiser can chew. Livestreaming from Youtube is np etc. The signal is no doubt very poor tho, and I have to use max signal/minimum battery on that bar you can adjust.
What drives me nuts is that it DCs me and often force me to key in the network key randomly every 1 to 20mins or so. I don't know if this is due to weak signal (both my laptop and the kaiser have 1 bar) or config of the wlan/kaiser. The PC dont DC, but its deffo a cranky connection. It almost seems like theres some auto-DC feature somewhere.
On other networks I haven't seen this. Generally I find the Kaiser wlan surprisingly powerfull, albeit it often shows a weak signal I've found this to be very relative and far from always descriptive of real life performance.
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kaiser wifi low signal - wi fi poor reception - wifi disconnecting and reconnecting:
Suffered a lot with my kaiser wifi poor reception. Tested several radio versions and could solve the problem.
Radio version:
1 71 09 01 - too low WIFI reception
1.27.12.11 - disconnecting and turning OFF the WIFI with no automatic reengage of the access point or turning ON the WIFI if coverage is good.
1.65.17.56 is the versione that SOLVED my problem.
This radio was collected from the original HTC shipped rom:
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
In this moment I am running Radio 1.65.17.56 with
ROM jjblaster3 - updated 28014 with good WIFI behaviour.
I need to underline that the reception I have now with the Kaiser, can never reach the sensibility of my Nokia 5530 WIFI or the one I have on my laptop with good antenna embeded in my LCD framem but I am happy now because the WIFI is making sense now.
Best Regards
cbgnl said:
When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
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I'm facing the same problem. WiFi worked fine and one day it was suddenly gone. Tried quite a few radios, including 1.65.17.56 and still no deal.
To elaborate, when WiFi is turned on, the icon never even comes up in the taskbar, and it continues to remain in an off state (when checked in wifi settings) even when it's turned on (in the comm manager).
I'm guessing this could be a hardware problem like a loose contact to the antenna? Anyone heard of such issues?
(On a side note, the phone function never worked either, I always got a "No Service")
I've fixed it! I believe the problem was indeed a loose antenna. I opened up my phone and removed the antenna peice (the plastic plate that also houses the speaker) and pushed up the two pins left of the camera (so that they'll have better contact with the antenna piece. Put everything back and now the WiFi works!
Now if only I can figure out why the cellular doesn't work..
I wonder if anyone else has noticed this oddity.....
I use my i9000 with three different wireless routers.
(1) Linksys WRT54G running latest DD-WRT
(2) O2 Thomson TG585-V7 (Wireless Box II)
(3) Belkin F5D7634-4A-H
I've done this testing multiple nights from midnight to 6am. No other apps running. The I9000 is fully charged by midnight.
With (Router 2) I will lose about 1% per hour overnight.
With (Router 3) I will lose about 3% per hour overnight.
But with (Router 1), I will lose (10 to 15%) per hour overnight.
All of the routers are running the same channel and default antenna power. I can't see any difference between the routers, power wise.
I am beginning to wonder if this disparity is responsible for some users having unpredictable battery drain with their Galaxys.
Has anyone come across an app that will let me log all of the wireless connection activity?
I believe that, as for 3g connection, a stronger and cleaner wifi signal reduces battery drain. If it is so it looks to me quite normal that a good quality router (cisco/linksys) gives better results than a cheap device..
I believe you may have mis-read the results. The Linksys gives the worst battery drain. Anywhere from 60 to 80% in six hours.
The O2 Thomson gives the best overall. That or I've mis-read your answer....
finally i found someone with (almost)the same problem as me!!
except i am experiencing the direct opposite - when im using the stock wrt54g my battery only drains 1-2% per hour, but when im using my main router, the dir 615, it can drain up to 10% per hour.
i did almost everything i could to reduce the battery drain with my dir 615 router but it just doesn't work! i removed the security password for the router and even changed the speed mode to wireless B + G only but still it still drains crazily! wtf?
i've searched high and low for this problem but no one else ever posted about this problem. i've even posted this issue on another forum but didn't get any solution.
the problem is my phone doesn't go to sleep ("time spent without sleeping" in battery history is always very high - like a few hours off from "time spent with screen on") whenever i am connected to my home router. BUT when i am using some other connection like one at public or at work the "time spent without sleeping" in battery history is very close to "time spent with screen on". so clearly something is preventing my phone from sleeping whenever i am at home. i just can't figure out what it is.
i posted this issue on hardwarezone as well. link is below
hxxp://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?p=50910987
if anyone could help id be greatly appreciate it cuz i don't want to change my damn router just to fix this thing.
HELP! AND SORRY IF I AM HIJACKING!
My bad, I read your post too fast thinking the first drain % was about first router and so on. Still I belive connection "quality" (signal strenght & noise absence) does affect battery life.
Btw, assuming that connection configuration is the same (b/g/n, wpa, wpa2, wep or whatever), you should check somehow (even with a laptop, I think) what kind of differences the 3 router wifi signal have (in terms of S/N).
Interesting, I checked and my drain while connected to the router at home is appalling as well - I thought it was just the new firmware getting something wrong. Luckily I just got a new router so I'll try that out and see if there's any improvement.
Barkotron said:
Interesting, I checked and my drain while connected to the router at home is appalling as well - I thought it was just the new firmware getting something wrong. Luckily I just got a new router so I'll try that out and see if there's any improvement.
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any news on the results? what are the models of the new and old routers?
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salivaman said:
finally i found someone with (almost)the same problem as me!!
except i am experiencing the direct opposite - when im using the stock wrt54g my battery only drains 1-2% per hour, but when im using my main router, the dir 615, it can drain up to 10% per hour.
i did almost everything i could to reduce the battery drain with my dir 615 router but it just doesn't work! i removed the security password for the router and even changed the speed mode to wireless B + G only but still it still drains crazily! wtf?
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Just a thought - the SSID isn't hidden on one of the routers, is it? I've known that to cause strange issues in other wifi situations...
Many routers, specially old ones, don't support the "power save" option that some laptops feature, in this case, probably SGS has problems when entering save mode on the routers which don't support the power saving feautre of the device.
Maybe setting your phones wifi to the never sleep policy might affect in your performance, try it out guys, I hope it helps.
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Just a thought - the SSID isn't hidden on one of the routers, is it? I've known that to cause strange issues in other wifi situations...
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SSID is not hidden on both routers.
gtluis said:
Many routers, specially old ones, don't support the "power save" option that some laptops feature, in this case, probably SGS has problems when entering save mode on the routers which don't support the power saving feautre of the device.
Maybe setting your phones wifi to the never sleep policy might affect in your performance, try it out guys, I hope it helps.
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my results have been tested using the "never sleep" policy. i always have that turned on so that 3g won't be switched over when the screen is off.
Could be the Beacon Interval of the routers.
http://wireless-nets.blogspot.com/2008/07/beacon-interval-impacts-on-battery-life.html
http://www.technologyreview.com/printer_friendly_article.aspx?id=25651
I believe you may be onto something here. I researched Beacon Interval and DD-WRT (Router 1) and found multiple instances of people having connection, latency and speed issues with DD-WRT that were fixed by changing the Beacon Interval on the Access Point.
I will check out the Linksys router later today to see what the default Beacon Interval is set at and report back.
tc80tc80 said:
I wonder if anyone else has noticed this oddity.....
I use my i9000 with three different wireless routers.
(1) Linksys WRT54G running latest DD-WRT
(2) O2 Thomson TG585-V7 (Wireless Box II)
(3) Belkin F5D7634-4A-H
I've done this testing multiple nights from midnight to 6am. No other apps running. The I9000 is fully charged by midnight.
With (Router 2) I will lose about 1% per hour overnight.
With (Router 3) I will lose about 3% per hour overnight.
But with (Router 1), I will lose (10 to 15%) per hour overnight.
All of the routers are running the same channel and default antenna power. I can't see any difference between the routers, power wise.
I am beginning to wonder if this disparity is responsible for some users having unpredictable battery drain with their Galaxys.
Has anyone come across an app that will let me log all of the wireless connection activity?
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Hi!
This is some interesting facts you have encountered, regarding an app to log wifi activities I would reccomend Shark together with Shark reader, not the native mode version of Shark as it doesn't work on the Galaxy. It's not an easy to use program but it should be able to tell you what goes on in the network of your device.
You are very welcome to present your findings in my YADB - Yet Another Battery Drain thread, hope it's ok that I post a link to this thread from mine.
If you or anyone else want to visit YABD, there is a link in my signature.
Although my phone is a Desire HD I need to share my experience with you guys.
I have the AirTies RT-204 router and since I started using my phone the battery life when wifi was always on had been horendous (about 5-10% per hour on idle).
However, about 5 days ago my router was restarted and my battery has been excellent from that point on (about 1% even less per hour on idle).
Last night the router has been reset again and the big battery drain has come back again.
What this tells me is that the model of a router is not the culprit for the big battery drain. It has something to do with the IP changing when restarting it. Now, I am not an expert on routers etc but I believe this seems as a logical assumption.
Could some of you having this problem try restarting your router and see if it helps? Remember that maybe it will not have an impact the first time you restart and you will have to do this multiple times.
If u have anyhting more on this please post your thoughts.
Thanks
I just bought one S Advance few days ago.i noticed that my wi-fi signal is significantly lower than my girlfriend's HTC Rhyme. Also when i keep the phone on my desk, in the same room with the rooter (3 meters away from it) my wifi signal is full Instead when i pick the device in my hand the signal drops 1 or even 2 lines of signal and it keeps oscilating. Not mentioning that in public places i sometimes can't connect to a wifi because i don't have enough signal but the HTC does.
I nstalled several wifi monitors like wifi analyzer or wifi signal info and the last one shows how my signal decreseases when i pick the device in my hand (aprox 15-20%).The internet still works fine in the same room with thee router but if i go few meters from the room it drops significantly and charging internet pages becomes poor or null.And in public places is kind of funny.If i keep the device on the table the signal is 2-3 lines but when i put it under the table or just turn the back on the router the signal just drops 1 line and the internet is not working anymore
I want to know if it`s my device problem only or if someone else is experiencing the same. I saw a lot of posts about weak wifi signal on SGS II. Does the S advance has the same problem ?
Should i return the device to the provider for replacement or it's just normal?
My router is in another room - about 6 meters away with bathroom on straight line from my desk to the router and I got 3 out of 4 bars on 'wifi manager' - no mattrer if phone sits on the desk or I am playing with it in my hands. Internet works as usual everywhere in my flat - no matter where I am,
Public wifi getting 1-2 bars on wifi manager works ok - I blame speed cap for slower loading pages on public wifi - must try speedtest while on it to be sure.
Bought my device in December - it was used for like 2-3 months when I bought it.
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I just bought one S Advance few days ago.i noticed that my wi-fi signal is significantly lower than my girlfriend's HTC Rhyme. Also when i keep the phone on my desk, in the same room with the rooter (3 meters away from it) my wifi signal is full Instead when i pick the device in my hand the signal drops 1 or even 2 lines of signal and it keeps oscilating. Not mentioning that in public places i sometimes can't connect to a wifi because i don't have enough signal but the HTC does.
I nstalled several wifi monitors like wifi analyzer or wifi signal info and the last one shows how my signal decreseases when i pick the device in my hand (aprox 15-20%).The internet still works fine in the same room with thee router but if i go few meters from the room it drops significantly and charging internet pages becomes poor or null.And in public places is kind of funny.If i keep the device on the table the signal is 2-3 lines but when i put it under the table or just turn the back on the router the signal just drops 1 line and the internet is not working anymore
I want to know if it`s my device problem only or if someone else is experiencing the same. I saw a lot of posts about weak wifi signal on SGS II. Does the S advance has the same problem ?
Should i return the device to the provider for replacement or it's just normal?
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Try ThunderZap kernel, I was getting better signal with it in places where I didn't have at my home.
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Thanks guys. Yesterday i tested my phone with another s advance.also new. and they had pretty much the same signal on wifi signal info app.i`m not complaining about internet connection in my room...no matter how many lines the internet is still working fine.But if i hold the phone with one hand and cover his back the signal decreases and holding it from above part =up one line.but in public places it sucks.Keeping my hands on the table=2 lines, under the table=1 line and unusable internet.pretty much annoying. I guess it's samsung`s hardware problem with this wifi antennas.
With wifi manager about 5-6 meters away from the router, straight line:
86% percent signal keeping the phone from it's top = -62dbm, 3 lines
60% percent signal keeping the phone normally as in daily use = -75dbm, 3 lines
Hi Everyone
I looked and I could not find info on this issue. I have just used WiFi at home in the past with the Note 3 and it was fine. Here is some history of the changes:
- Old home WiFi was single band wireless N (53mbps) with a second repeater hot spot. This worked well with the Note 3.
- Had issues with the router so I upgraded to a dual band ac router and removed the second hot spot. So now it is just the new router for the whole house.
- Issues now - receive 2 bars at the far end of the house and basic WiFi is OK. Watching You Tube is an issue and it loads, plays for a few seconds, loads more etc.
I don't see a way to tell if I am on ac or wireless N. I was going to try to switch to wireless N and see if that helped but I can't see a way to do this? This router is way faster than my old one so I thought speed would not be an issue. no one else is using the wireless in the house. I would think that 2 bars would be strong enough? I think that wireless N would have a better range so that is why I wanted to try that. I am assuming that I am connecting to ac. Any thoughts?
thx in advance
AC routers have two separate ssid's. One for b,g,n. And another for 5G band. The 5G band default ssid is the same as the other with "5G" at the end. 5G band doesn't have good range, but it has faster speed between connected devices. 5G won't have faster internet unless you have a 100mb download speed. Which is unlikely. So your YouTube issue is either your modem, or a Qos setting in the router. If your router is at default settings it's definitely your modem.
You might be able to get more support on this subject thru a forum for your router, or modem.
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Hi Everyone
I looked and I could not find info on this issue. I have just used WiFi at home in the past with the Note 3 and it was fine. Here is some history of the changes:
- Old home WiFi was single band wireless N (53mbps) with a second repeater hot spot. This worked well with the Note 3.
- Had issues with the router so I upgraded to a dual band ac router and removed the second hot spot. So now it is just the new router for the whole house.
- Issues now - receive 2 bars at the far end of the house and basic WiFi is OK. Watching You Tube is an issue and it loads, plays for a few seconds, loads more etc.
I don't see a way to tell if I am on ac or wireless N. I was going to try to switch to wireless N and see if that helped but I can't see a way to do this? This router is way faster than my old one so I thought speed would not be an issue. no one else is using the wireless in the house. I would think that 2 bars would be strong enough? I think that wireless N would have a better range so that is why I wanted to try that. I am assuming that I am connecting to ac. Any thoughts?
thx in advance
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why not use your old router from your old home as a repeater? wouldn't that work?
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- Issues now - receive 2 bars at the far end of the house and basic WiFi is OK. Watching You Tube is an issue and it loads, plays for a few seconds, loads more etc.
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That's called buffering and it's due to low thruput (which is different than speed). It can be caused by low signal strength (due to distance or to the signal haveing to go through too much along the path), noise between the router and the phone, interference with someone else's wifi signal ...
You need at least a couple of apps like Signal Check Lite and Wifi Analytics to see what's going on. Guessing isn't going to give you a solution.
On the stock 4.1.1 rom i could reach wifi from my modem at about 60 feet or even more. I could stand at the farthest point in my house and still get 2 out of 4 bars on wifi. I loaded slimkat and although it was a good rom it lagged to much, and now im on the latest cm11 nightly, but both roms gave poor wifi performance, i could barely reach it from 20 feet. It would connect but i couldn't really use the internet cause the signal was so bad.
Anyone else have this problem? I have a 2wire modem if anyone is wondering.
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On the stock 4.1.1 rom i could reach wifi from my modem at about 60 feet or even more. I could stand at the farthest point in my house and still get 2 out of 4 bars on wifi. I loaded slimkat and although it was a good rom it lagged to much, and now im on the latest cm11 nightly, but both roms gave poor wifi performance, i could barely reach it from 20 feet. It would connect but i couldn't really use the internet cause the signal was so bad.
Anyone else have this problem? I have a 2wire modem if anyone is wondering.
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I have been having issues with Wi-Fi, but it's my provider fault. So no, no issues so far. I'm on a Carbon ROM nightly. BTW, you don't need to "bump".
What frequency does your router use? 2.4 or 5 ghz? And how many walls is it going through? Mine uses both and I get good reception up till my fence line, about 40ft away from the router behind a brick wall and some windows, using 2.4 whereas 5 will barely make it out of the house. I have a Western Digital router, not sure of the model number, but it was a cheapo from Walmart.
That said, wifi has been strange with custom roms on 4.4 with some people. For some of us it seems to be just fine where others have poor or no signal. The following is speculation based on what I've noticed lately --- Makes me wonder if some phones have revision B of the wifi chip when development team is using A, or something like that. The RAZR HD was having similar issues caused by different chipset revisions when KitKat first came out and maybe we're having the same. --- End speculation.
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What frequency does your router use? 2.4 or 5 ghz? And how many walls is it going through? Mine uses both and I get good reception up till my fence line, about 40ft away from the router behind a brick wall and some windows, using 2.4 whereas 5 will barely make it out of the house. I have a Western Digital router, not sure of the model number, but it was a cheapo from Walmart.
That said, wifi has been strange with custom roms on 4.4 with some people. For some of us it seems to be just fine where others have poor or no signal. The following is speculation based on what I've noticed lately --- Makes me wonder if some phones have revision B of the wifi chip when development team is using A, or something like that. The RAZR HD was having similar issues caused by different chipset revisions when KitKat first came out and maybe we're having the same. --- End speculation.
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I understand there maybe many factors why the signal is weak, but its the fact that after i changed the rom the reception became worse.
Im using a 2.4 GHz i think. Mine has to go through a floor because its in the basment and from the floor goes through 2 walls to get to my room where before i flashed kit kat i got 2 bars just fine and could use the internet and now it doesn't even get signal. Before flashing kit kat i could get 2 bars in my sisters room (floor and around 3 walls and furniture around 50 feet away). Its a big house so...but its never been this bad even with my old phone! which is an lg optimus one.
after doing extensive research on the kit kat update, turns out this is a location services/wifi chip conflict and this pretty much renders the wifi chip useless. so unless your router is strong (and mine isnt) you wont get good wifi connection anywhere.
One way to sort of fix it is to do the following.
1. Go to Settings>Location Services> Device only (basically so it would not use the wifi and this would free up some bandwidth for your phone).
2. Go to Settings>Wifi>Advanced>Turn the Eco mode/ Battery saver mode OFF
This will increase performance of the wifi chip and stop google from using up your wifi to track you (lol)
This also seems to drastically increase battery performance, I loose about 1 percent every 5 minutes with screen off. Right now i am at 78% and not going down at all while my screen is on. So...i guess the battery saver thing drains battery??? (idk maybe a cm bug).
Hope this helps anyone who has this problem on kit kat. By the way turning off location services does 2 bad things, renders certain apps useless and 2, does not help wifi (idk why).
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Its been around 10 minutes and battery isn't going down
russian392 said:
after doing extensive research on the kit kat update, turns out this is a location services/wifi chip conflict and this pretty much renders the wifi chip useless. so unless your router is strong (and mine isnt) you wont get good wifi connection anywhere.
One way to sort of fix it is to do the following.
1. Go to Settings>Location Services> Device only (basically so it would not use the wifi and this would free up some bandwidth for your phone).
2. Go to Settings>Wifi>Advanced>Turn the Eco mode/ Battery saver mode OFF
This will increase performance of the wifi chip and stop google from using up your wifi to track you (lol)
This also seems to drastically increase battery performance, I loose about 1 percent every 5 minutes with screen off. Right now i am at 78% and not going down at all while my screen is on. So...i guess the battery saver thing drains battery??? (idk maybe a cm bug).
Hope this helps anyone who has this problem on kit kat. By the way turning off location services does 2 bad things, renders certain apps useless and 2, does not help wifi (idk why).
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Its been around 10 minutes and battery isn't going down
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I don't see the Eco Mode, maybe is just a feature of the ROM you are using? I see Wi-Fi optimization (minimize battery usage when Wi-Fi is on), is that it?
Yea that is the one he is referring to. Btw, I personally don't have WiFi issues on my roms, go back to stock if you get a chance and see if the wifi is still failing, it may just be that 2-Wire.
russian392 said:
after doing extensive research on the kit kat update, turns out this is a location services/wifi chip conflict and this pretty much renders the wifi chip useless. so unless your router is strong (and mine isnt) you wont get good wifi connection anywhere.
One way to sort of fix it is to do the following.
1. Go to Settings>Location Services> Device only (basically so it would not use the wifi and this would free up some bandwidth for your phone).
2. Go to Settings>Wifi>Advanced>Turn the Eco mode/ Battery saver mode OFF
This will increase performance of the wifi chip and stop google from using up your wifi to track you (lol)
This also seems to drastically increase battery performance, I loose about 1 percent every 5 minutes with screen off. Right now i am at 78% and not going down at all while my screen is on. So...i guess the battery saver thing drains battery??? (idk maybe a cm bug).
Hope this helps anyone who has this problem on kit kat. By the way turning off location services does 2 bad things, renders certain apps useless and 2, does not help wifi (idk why).
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Its been around 10 minutes and battery isn't going down
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Hmmm. I'm already doing #1, haven't bothered taking a #2, I mean trying #2 ever....My wifi is set to go on and off with the screen and I only connect to trusted networks, for me, there never has been reason to use #1 between paranoia and wanting to save battery life.
Good finds, it'll be worth watching logs when those settings are enable/disabled to see if any errors pop up.
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Silentwidow said:
Yea that is the one he is referring to. Btw, I personally don't have WiFi issues on my roms, go back to stock if you get a chance and see if the wifi is still failing, it may just be that 2-Wire.
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He did go to stock and it worked just fine -- in the OP....errr, at least said that it works with stock just fine.
skeevydude said:
Hmmm. I'm already doing #1, haven't bothered taking a #2, I mean trying #2 ever....My wifi is set to go on and off with the screen and I only connect to trusted networks, for me, there never has been reason to use #1 between paranoia and wanting to save battery life.
Good finds, it'll be worth watching logs when those settings are enable/disabled to see if any errors pop up.
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He did go to stock and it worked just fine -- in the OP....errr, at least said that it works with stock just fine.
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Yes i did go back to stock to check if it was the phone or the rom. It is the kit kat os...many other devices are reporting this problem.
Also noticed a CM bug, the camera has a hard time saving video over 10 seconds long and also the google play music app reboots the device for some reason...anyone else with this?
For now i am getting close to usual wifi after changing my settings around although it is still only 60-70% as strong as it should be :/
mauchito said:
I don't see the Eco Mode, maybe is just a feature of the ROM you are using? I see Wi-Fi optimization (minimize battery usage when Wi-Fi is on), is that it?
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Yes that is what it is...i just called it eco mode but yes it is the wifi optimization thingy
I flashed the pa moto ROM and with the WiFi, I had great signal, it just would not connect. To any router at all. It would sit at saved and never attempt to connect.
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tork0112 said:
I flashed the pa moto ROM and with the WiFi, I had great signal, it just would not connect. To any router at all. It would sit at saved and never attempt to connect.
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sometimes i get that too on CM. It wont connect to wifi till i literally come right up to the modem, otherwise if im walking around the house it wont even see the signal (if im moving around). I have to stop, stand there for like 2 minutes till it finds the signal. Usually if its 1-2 bars of wifi it wont even bother to try to connect.
This is a huge kit kat bug.
I always have had problems with WiFi, even on stock (because of a 3rd world internet provider).. But I can't download anything con google play... I download at 10kbps per second, but downloading from other apps or browser Its decent like 2-3mb/s. How can I fix this?
Arjomer said:
I always have had problems with WiFi, even on stock (because of a 3rd world internet provider).. But I can't download anything con google play... I download at 10kbps per second, but downloading from other apps or browser Its decent like 2-3mb/s. How can I fix this?
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now that i dont know.
My problem isn't internet speed. Even here in the USA i get 70kbps internet because to get anything more than that i need to pay 2 or 3 times more and i already pay 30 bucks a month for 70kb. But the problem is the signal, i cant get signal in my bedroom on kit kat rom, but i can on stock.
your problem? i really dont know, try clearing data on the play store, rebooting the phone and trying again. its probably a play store issue
Yeah.. I hope we could get a decent wifi reception on kk. And I already done that, Should I flash other gapps?
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I flashed the Pac Man 4.4.2 ROM on my kids Atrix HD, and that was the first thing I noticed. I was doing the work at my desk, which is located about 5' (with a typical wall in between) from my AT&T (Motorola) wireless router. Prior to that; I got full bars on the Wi-Fi signal strength meter anywhere within a 50-60-' radius. After I did the upgrade from Pac Man 4.3; sitting at my desk, 5' away from the router; I was only getting 3 bars - which - still works, but is a significant degradation in Wi-Fi performance. Sitting at the same desk, or anywhere on my property with either my Samsung S4 or Note 3, I have full bars, and full speed. Both of my Sammy's are running the stock AT&T KK update, unrooted - but living for the day that an exploit becomes available.
In fact; when I turn the corner onto my street (my house is the second house) my Sammy's connect to my router before I reach my driveway. Now, bear in mind; I have the power of my router turned up to a full 10. The router is located inside my bedroom closet near the ceiling, with no external antennas. I have it bridged to a dual band D-Link router for 5GHz with the 2GHz disabled. I carefully used a spectrum analyzer / logger to sweep the area for the best channels, as well. All that being said; I don't think much of that is relevant to the decreased Wi-Fi- performance of the Atrix HD, since it worked similarly to the Sammy's before the 4.4.2 bump.
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I flashed the Pac Man 4.4.2 ROM on my kids Atrix HD, and that was the first thing I noticed. I was doing the work at my desk, which is located about 5' (with a typical wall in between) from my AT&T (Motorola) wireless router. Prior to that; I got full bars on the Wi-Fi signal strength meter anywhere within a 50-60-' radius. After I did the upgrade from Pac Man 4.3; sitting at my desk, 5' away from the router; I was only getting 3 bars - which - still works, but is a significant degradation in Wi-Fi performance. Sitting at the same desk, or anywhere on my property with either my Samsung S4 or Note 3, I have full bars, and full speed. Both of my Sammy's are running the stock AT&T KK update, unrooted - but living for the day that an exploit becomes available.
In fact; when I turn the corner onto my street (my house is the second house) my Sammy's connect to my router before I reach my driveway. Now, bear in mind; I have the power of my router turned up to a full 10. The router is located inside my bedroom closet near the ceiling, with no external antennas. I have it bridged to a dual band D-Link router for 5GHz with the 2GHz disabled. I carefully used a spectrum analyzer / logger to sweep the area for the best channels, as well. All that being said; I don't think much of that is relevant to the decreased Wi-Fi- performance of the Atrix HD, since it worked similarly to the Sammy's before the 4.4.2 bump.
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I'm also on at&t except with a 2wire router. I had to move the router around to get slightly better signal. But still. I would sit in my friends house and I could use his parents houses WiFi (on the same property) and get 2 bars. Now its none.
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russian392 said:
I'm also on at&t except with a 2wire router. I had to move the router around to get slightly better signal. But still. I would sit in my friends house and I could use his parents houses WiFi (on the same property) and get 2 bars. Now its none.
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I had a 2Wire until last summer and it was a pretty decent router with decent coverage. I modified it by adding two external antennas and only made a slight difference. that was before rooting, tweaking, etc. The Motorola router is much better with respect to signal coverage - without any modifications.
The issue that I'm having, now is that I'm experiencing significantly less Wi Fi performance with the Atrix HD after I did the operating system upgrade. The other two stock phones are still working as well, or better than expected after the 4.4.2 update.
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I had a 2Wire until last summer and it was a pretty decent router with decent coverage. I modified it by adding two external antennas and only made a slight difference. that was before rooting, tweaking, etc. The Motorola router is much better with respect to signal coverage - without any modifications.
The issue that I'm having, now is that I'm experiencing significantly less Wi Fi performance with the Atrix HD after I did the operating system upgrade. The other two stock phones are still working as well, or better than expected after the 4.4.2 update.
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Are you using official 4.4?
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