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Hello everyone,
In the past week, I have decided to sell off my Nexus 4, and I went on to buy a new cheap unlocked 40$ android phone and a used water damaged Xperia Z.
I had just got the Xperia Z a few hours ago, and the guy who I bought the Z from, said a bit of water leaked into the phone about 2 weeks ago, and ever since then the phone does not turn on.
So far I have pretty much disassembled the whole thing, and noticed that all three water indicator stickers at the ports have turned red.
But I seriously cant find any water, damage or corrosion on the phone's connectors, internal frame, battery connectors, anywhere.
I guess only a few drops has entered the phone and over time the water evaporated.
Now after drying the internal components in the sun, and using 70% isopropyl wipes (I looked everywhere for 99% isopeopyl Alcohol liquid, I cant find them everywhere) I wiped it over the phone's motherboard and then used a toothbrush to remove any dirt or corrosion building up in the board.
Now the thing is that the phone does not do anything when I plug in the charger.
But when I remove the battery, and plug in the charger, and press the power button, the phone's LED blinks red for about half a second, then vibrates once and then a blue LED light comes and stays on. However nothing comes up on the screen.
I tried the Power button and Vol.Up button, but it does not do anything.
The Z's battery seems fine, as I tried it out on my Xperia C and it works perfectly there.
And I tried the Xperia C's battery on the Z. Same thing no response from the phone
What should I do?
I guess look around or a 99% alcohol solution and properly wash the Z's motherboard?
Or is this some sort of a software issue?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks!
Akash434 said:
Hello everyone,
In the past week, I have decided to sell off my Nexus 4, and I went on to buy a new cheap unlocked 40$ android phone and a used water damaged Xperia Z.
I had just got the Xperia Z a few hours ago, and the guy who I bought the Z from, said a bit of water leaked into the phone about 2 weeks ago, and ever since then the phone does not turn on.
So far I have pretty much disassembled the whole thing, and noticed that all three water indicator stickers at the ports have turned red.
But I seriously cant find any water, damage or corrosion on the phone's connectors, internal frame, battery connectors, anywhere.
I guess only a few drops has entered the phone and over time the water evaporated.
Now after drying the internal components in the sun, and using 70% isopropyl wipes (I looked everywhere for 99% isopeopyl Alcohol liquid, I cant find them everywhere) I wiped it over the phone's motherboard and then used a toothbrush to remove any dirt or corrosion building up in the board.
Now the thing is that the phone does not do anything when I plug in the charger.
But when I remove the battery, and plug in the charger, and press the power button, the phone's LED blinks red for about half a second, then vibrates once and then a blue LED light comes and stays on. However nothing comes up on the screen.
I tried the Power button and Vol.Up button, but it does not do anything.
The Z's battery seems fine, as I tried it out on my Xperia C and it works perfectly there.
And I tried the Xperia C's battery on the Z. Same thing no response from the phone
What should I do?
I guess look around or a 99% alcohol solution and properly wash the Z's motherboard?
Or is this some sort of a software issue?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks!
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To me it rather looks like the seller modified the software and hard bricked the device... My Xperia T had the same sympoms when it was hard bricked....
I would have thought the battery had shorted out
Bang a replacement in
Oadbylad said:
I would have thought the battery had shorted out
Bang a replacement in
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Every fault is not caused by a faulty battery. I know you fixed your phone with a replacement battery, but that is not the solution to everything.
If you had read his post properly, you would see the battery powers another device just fine. A shorted battery would surely not function at all.
Akash434 said:
The Z's battery seems fine, as I tried it out on my Xperia C and it works perfectly there.
And I tried the Xperia C's battery on the Z. Same thing no response from the phone
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Well today, I bought some distilled water and washed the phones motherboard with a toothbrush to displace any particles left on the board.
Now When I plug in the charger (with out the battery, as the phone does nothing with the battery plugged in) the phones LED blinks red and the phone vibrates once. It then goes on to repeat this process over and over again.
But my computer kinda detects my phone, as it tries to install the phones drivers. If I remember correctly the devices name on my computer is 'S1 FlashBoot'
But for the computer and Sony PC Companion to detect my phone, I have to remove the battery ribbon to let the phone start up on USB power, and then reinsert the battery ribbon when the phone vibrates and flashes its LED once, and then I have to remove the Button ribbon since, for some reason if the button ribbon and the battery ribbon is connected at the same time the phone shuts off.
Sony's PC software detects my phone, but since I cant press the power button due to the removal of the button ribbon from the motherboard, I cant repair my phone using the software.
Maybe theres something wrong with the power button/ribbon is having a few issues?
I also found some corrosion bottom right hand corner under the network antenna, and a severely corroded 3 segment ribbon, where 2 out of 3 segments were non functional due to corrosion,. As I tried to open the connector, I sneezed and accidentally ripped it.
Dammit.
It didn't work before I ripped it, so I wonder if I somehow fix this ribbon would it help solve a few of the above issues with my phone?
What does this small dinky ribbon do, anyways?
You can read about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/help/break-t2748834
Akash434 said:
Well today, I bought some distilled water and washed the phones motherboard with a toothbrush to displace any particles left on the board.
Now When I plug in the charger (with out the battery, as the phone does nothing with the battery plugged in) the phones LED blinks red and the phone vibrates once. It then goes on to repeat this process over and over again.
But my computer kinda detects my phone, as it tries to install the phones drivers. If I remember correctly the devices name on my computer is 'S1 FlashBoot'
But for the computer and Sony PC Companion to detect my phone, I have to remove the battery ribbon to let the phone start up on USB power, and then reinsert the battery ribbon when the phone vibrates and flashes its LED once, and then I have to remove the Button ribbon since, for some reason if the button ribbon and the battery ribbon is connected at the same time the phone shuts off.
Sony's PC software detects my phone, but since I cant press the power button due to the removal of the button ribbon from the motherboard, I cant repair my phone using the software.
Maybe theres something wrong with the power button/ribbon is having a few issues?
I also found some corrosion bottom right hand corner under the network antenna, and a severely corroded 3 segment ribbon, where 2 out of 3 segments were non functional due to corrosion,. As I tried to open the connector, I sneezed and accidentally ripped it.
Dammit.
It didn't work before I ripped it, so I wonder if I somehow fix this ribbon would it help solve a few of the above issues with my phone?
What does this small dinky ribbon do, anyways?
You can read about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/help/break-t2748834
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Found this post through google while looking for a solution for my Xperia Z.
My first experia also had the same problem, sort of. The battery would jump from 90% to 60%, then 73%, then 20%, then 71% and so forth.
I decided to update the system software, to which it turned off during the process. The OS became faulty, and it rebooted all the time, showing a weak red light, then a strong red light, turn on, turn off and so on. The authorized service replaced my battery, but I guess that's not your problem in this case, and I doubt it that it's a faulty OS. Because even with a faulty OS, it would atleast show the Sony or Xperia logo.
Now I have the same starting issues and I blame the ribbons I guess, since when I press it the right way, it suddenly accepts charge and boots up. Replace the ribbons, and you might be fine. Guess there's some short circuit.
i have a z1 c6902 and yesterday my best friend dropped my beloved z1 to a pond and it's back pannel was shattered and water got in...i dis assembled the phone and let it dry and reassembled it but it is not turning on...when i connect it to a charger the notification light blinks red and then green for a second and after that nothing happens..before turning my device off i have noticed that my power button did not work at all and i had to use the red button near the sim card to turn off the phone..so guys is there any way to fix my z1...i really miss it...plz help me...plz!!!!!
Depending on what method (rice, heat, just sitting) you used to dry the phone, and how long you left it to dry, you may have done more damage by turning the phone on.
Typically, the red LED during power-on means that the battery is very low. However, I do not know the significance of the green LED flash following.
If you are certain that the phone is completely dry, leave it connected to the OEM wall charger for a minimum of 24 hours, then try to power it on again.
xasbo said:
Depending on what method (rice, heat, just sitting) you used to dry the phone, and how long you left it to dry, you may have done more damage by turning the phone on.
Typically, the red LED during power-on means that the battery is very low. However, I do not know the significance of the green LED flash following.
If you are certain that the phone is completely dry, leave it connected to the OEM wall charger for a minimum of 24 hours, then try to power it on again.
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Well i used a fan to dry my phone's disassembled parts..and ivleft it charge for 8 hours..and i'm not so stupid to turn on the wet phone...all i did was quickly turn off the phone and disassemble it to make it dry quickly..but it's not showing any sign of life..i can't turn it on since my power button does not work...any advice???
superdroid xtereme said:
Well i used a fan to dry my phone's disassembled parts..and ivleft it charge for 8 hours..and i'm not so stupid to turn on the wet phone...all i did was quickly turn off the phone and disassemble it to make it dry quickly..but it's not showing any sign of life..i can't turn it on since my power button does not work...any advice???
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Replace the power button and diagnose from there. However, if after 24h of continuous charging, if you don't get a charging screen when unplugging and replugging the USB cable, I would say either the battery or motherboard is toast.
A fan is not really a sufficient to thoroughly dry electronics. There was probably still moisture present in the phone when you turned it back on. You need to use something like silica gel, rice, or a very controlled oven to make sure all the moisture has been removed or evaporated.
xasbo said:
Replace the power button and diagnose from there. However, if after 24h of continuous charging, if you don't get a charging screen when unplugging and replugging the USB cable, I would say either the battery or motherboard is toast.
A fan is not really a sufficient to thoroughly dry electronics. There was probably still moisture present in the phone when you turned it back on. You need to use something like silica gel, rice, or a very controlled oven to make sure all the moisture has been removed or evaporated.
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How could i know if it is the battery or the motherboard???
superdroid xtereme said:
How could i know if it is the battery or the motherboard???
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Unless you have significant skill with troubleshooting electronics, unfortunately all you can do is try replacing one or the other. The battery is the obvious (and cheaper) one to try first, but there exists the possibility that the motherboard damaged the existing battery, and could damage the replacement. There is very little which is certain about your predicament.
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Unless you have significant skill with troubleshooting electronics, unfortunately all you can do is try replacing one or the other. The battery is the obvious (and cheaper) one to try first, but there exists the possibility that the motherboard damaged the existing battery, and could damage the replacement. There is very little which is certain about your predicament.
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hey..i tried a new battery but still the same response...where can i buy a new motherboard?? Plz guide me!!!
superdroid xtereme said:
hey..i tried a new battery but still the same response...where can i buy a new motherboard?? Plz guide me!!!
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www.ebay.com c6903 dead http://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=c6903+dead&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1 with lcd broken no result with c6902 have you test power on your new battery ?
superdroid xtereme said:
hey..i tried a new battery but still the same response...where can i buy a new motherboard?? Plz guide me!!!
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I have purchased Z1 parts from http://www.etradesupply.com with good success. Or you can try what @xreniox describes and buy a used/broken phone and hope it has no issues.
xasbo said:
I have purchased Z1 parts from http://www.etradesupply.com with good success. Or you can try what @xreniox describes and buy a used/broken phone and hope it has no issues.
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Hey i sent my phone to sony and they sent back my z1 with a report saying that the phone's hardware is not damaged and also the power button and the camera button are not working because of a software issue...so is there anyway that i can fix this???
Hi all, my z3 compact has been damaged by water.
I opened it and let it dry.
But now it seems dead.
I am not able to turn it on at all: no boot, no screen on, no vibration and no led with power button ( also tried the power button + vol +/-)
When connected to the charger: only the red led stays on but no boot, no screen on and no vibration with power button.
Any advice to repair my phone?
Maybe have to replace the battery? Or disconnect and reconnect the battery?
Thank you for advices
Unfortunately non of those will fix Your problem. First You should disassemble Your phone, take out motherboard, take off alu shields from motherboard and clean whole motherboard with isopropyl alcohol. After that you can try to charge battery but if there is some short circuit on motherboard made by water damage charging Your phone without cleaning motherboard can damage it completely.
Ok, thank you for your advice
Is it possible to check my battery with an ohmmeter or ampermeter? If yes, what are the results for a healthy battery?
Sorry to hear that, i also experienced the same water issue. It was my first xperia, Z. I did the same thing, disassembled completely every detachable components, let them dry and clean but still dead. You will have to find a spare working motherboard, maybe you can still use some components -if working- like batter, speaker, buttons.... i found an old one (screen, hardcase and buttons broken but battery and motherboard still working), replaced the inside components and made it work.
tebra said:
Is it possible to check my battery with an ohmmeter or ampermeter? If yes, what are the results for a healthy battery?
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If there was short circuit on motherboard battery can be fully discharged but to charge it again You need to remove short circuit first. After that if nothing is burned by electrical circuit You can charge battery regular way.
Hi,
i send my phone down the river and probably killed it. backplate was broken and charging lid as well, there is no warranty any more.
i dried it for a week in a box covered with rice and tried to turn it on afterwards. No reactions on buttons, but after i plugged in the charger, the LED got red and Display turned on showing the "Sony" Screen. after a second or two LED and screen went black and the procedure started again. and again. after a few repetitions i put the plug away. so i didn't charge the phone any longer than ~5min and have not plugged it to the PC.
first question is if someone has encountered the same symptomes and can give a statement of chance to revive the phone. Second one is: Where to start? there are lots of guides to disassemble the phone, thats not a problem i think, i have all the tools i need and a little bit technical knowhow. I want to start checking the battery, pretty shure its dead. afterwards i want to check the board for signs of corrosion. but then?
grateful for any tipps, especialy want to know whats the real death sentence for a water damaged phone. after i have seen the screen working i thought main functionality is there and only the battery died.
xant05 said:
Hi,
i send my phone down the river and probably killed it. backplate was broken and charging lid as well, there is no warranty any more.
i dried it for a week in a box covered with rice and tried to turn it on afterwards. No reactions on buttons, but after i plugged in the charger, the LED got red and Display turned on showing the "Sony" Screen. after a second or two LED and screen went black and the procedure started again. and again. after a few repetitions i put the plug away. so i didn't charge the phone any longer than ~5min and have not plugged it to the PC.
first question is if someone has encountered the same symptomes and can give a statement of chance to rivive the phone. Second one is: Where to start? there are lots of guides to disassemble the phone, thats not a problem i think, i have all the tools i need and a little bit technical knowhow. I want to start checking the battery, pretty shure its dead. afterwards i want to check the board for signs of corrosion. but then?
grateful for any tipps, especialy want to know whats the real death sentence for a water damaged phone. after i have seen the screen working i thought main functionality is there and only the battery died.
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I would leave it plugged in and see if you can build up any sort of charge in the battery. It seems that changing the battery would be an obvious first step, if you can get enough charge in the phone to fire up the mainboard, then you will see what else needs to be changed. leave it plugged into a charger for 24 hours.
Do you want to repair it to salvage what data is on the phone or is it financial reasons? tbh the cost of new mainboard and battery, plus replacement back screen is going to be more than a second hand phone off ebay. If it's a science project then bravo, not enough people try to rescue thier old kit from the bin, but I'm saying there are easier options than pulling it apart.
Having never pulled a phone apart myself I can't really offer any more advice, but you might want to drop @Chamelleon a PM, as he regularly contributes with hardware fixes and knows his stuff.
its more about financial reasons, data is all backed up. Buying a new phone should be the last option. i want to repair it cause i like repairing things and i want to make clear that the phone is absolutely dead or not. i dont think i would buy a new mainboard/display/battery if i am not completely shure that this will fix all problems. in this case id rather buy a new phone.
i am a bit afraid that if i charge the battery for 24h and still have a circuit on the motherboard i will completely destroy it.
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its more about financial reasons, data is all backed up. Buying a new phone should be the last option. i want to repair it cause i like repairing things and i want to make clear that the phone is absolutely dead or not. i dont think i would buy a new mainboard/display/battery if i am not completely shure that this will fix all problems. in this case id rather buy a new phone.
i am a bit afraid that if i charge the battery for 24h and still have a circuit on the motherboard i will completely destroy it.
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A week in rice in a warm place means there's no moisture in the phone.
The phone won't be damaged by trying to charge the battery and you need to find out if there's anything working from a full charge.
I recently had a waterdamage too. I took it apart and i saw that there was some corrosion on the board by the display connector. I put the mainboard in isopropyl alcohol (you can get that in the pharmacy). I carefully cleaned the affected part with a soft toothbrush and let it dry for a while. And now my phone is back a life and everything works as it should
Good Luck!
Didgesteve said:
A week in rice in a warm place means there's no moisture in the phone.
The phone won't be damaged by trying to charge the battery and you need to find out if there's anything working from a full charge.
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Well, turns out this guy is right. Phone is working after charging. Vibration is dead and there are some residues of the wather in or behind the display, but nothing else i can find now. i think i will still disassemble the phone, and clean all parts. Maybe i will replace the vibration motor, but i think i can live without one...
I Dropped my A2 into the WC, lucky the phone didn't immerse in full only the side with the buttons, the accident was with the included case, the phone cant turn on.
I take it apart and I verified no water damage to logic board. battery usb connector, barely the buttons got some water , most like sweat in normal use.
I cleaned the contacts, re-assembly and nothing, plug into the PC and nothing is shown in ADB.
It's possible this killed my phone, I have recovered phones with actual wet logic board, pissed, etc, what happened do not use to require more than superficial dry with an towel.
curious I plug the charger and even do not show nothing.
Any Cues ?
@AcostaJA, put the phone in a can of rice over night...the chinese will come over night, repair the phone and eat all the rice
(I love chinese people, please this is only a joke, no offense intended)
The phone has moisture in it, it needs to dry out...the phone in a can/jar of rice is a serious proposal, do it !
minnuss said:
@AcostaJA, put the phone in a can of rice over night...the chinese will come over night, repair the phone and eat all the rice
(I love chinese people, please this is only a joke, no offense intended)
The phone has moisture in it, it needs to dry out...the phone in a can/jar of rice is a serious proposal, do it !
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I did, then I cleaned the buttons with contact cleaner and leave the phone opened in a shoe box under the sun, logic board was neves wet, so this is strange unless those buttons are really weak about moisture.
i bet that the bottom board, with the usb connector, got fried.
I would also check the display connector for burn marks as it's usually the first thing that fries when water ingress occurs.
It is a very strange situation, because, from the tests on youtube, the phone has a very good water resistance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3SaQCVa8sM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_n9E3VOOss
pecholino said:
i bet that the bottom board, with the usb connector, got fried.
I would also check the display connector for burn marks as it's usually the first thing that fries when water ingress occurs.
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The Bottom board/connector was never exposed, Display also was dry when I take it apart.
i can't imagine how the phone fell into the toilet, submersing the buttons and not the usb port.
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It is a very strange situation, because, from the tests on youtube, the phone has a very good water resistance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3SaQCVa8sM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_n9E3VOOss
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I saw this, also I verified the speaker is hermetic do not allow water in, the display is also sealed, indeed the only water that managed to get in was at the power/volume button, and almost minimal.
I'm considering to get another A2 and keep this for spares I I found no solution/cue on what's hapening.
A thing I noted when I first turn on the phone is this phone was somehow reluctant, it took me 3 tries to power on.
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i can't imagine how the phone fell into the toilet, submersing the buttons and not the usb port.
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this phone is quite long, it felt almost sideway, the WC was not deep/wide enough.
did you check the buttons connector on the main board?
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did you check the buttons connector on the main board?
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I removed the mainboard, the connector in the ribbon from the buttons also was dry.
Update, after checkint the battery connector I saw it was covered by phone's own thermal paste, I cleaned it properly with contact cleaner, I checked battery boltage with an multimeter it shown 4v, then I assembly the phone, and try to power it on, it vibrated and androidone logo showed, then battery logo appera as depleted, led blinks and the phone shutdown.
If I plug the charger it means only the phone repeat this cicle (androidone logo,-> then battery logo, then led blinks, the reset then repeat)s.
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Update, after checkint the battery connector I saw it was covered by phone's own thermal paste, I cleaned it properly with contact cleaner, I checked battery boltage with an multimeter it shown 4v, then I assembly the phone, and try to power it on, it vibrated and androidone logo showed, then battery logo appera as depleted, led blinks and the phone shutdown.
If I plug the charger it means only the phone repeat this cicle (androidone logo,-> then battery logo, then led blinks, the reset then repeat)s.
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Boot in fastboot and let it charge completely, then remove the charger and reboot
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Boot in fastboot and let it charge completely, then remove the charger and reboot
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same behavior in fastboot, do not last more than 11 seconds between reboots.
I opened again and put in rice, I'll wait another 48h until try again, maybe there are still something wet there.
AcostaJA said:
same behavior in fastboot, do not last more than 11 seconds between reboots.
I opened again and put in rice, I'll wait another 48h until try again, maybe there are still something wet there.
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After some extra days to dry, still the same behavior.
Solved.
The issue was some mist at the USB port, cleaned dried, plugged, and turn on.
Working like ever, I resealed with silicone.
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Solved.
The issue was some mist at the USB port, cleaned dried, plugged, and turn on.
Working like ever, I resealed with silicone.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi A2 using XDA Labs
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Thanks for the update. It would be really helpful for someone in future.