Does Helium Backup is working on your device? - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

I'm trying (with no success) to run Helium Backup on my Note 8.
HB doesn't claims that my device is using MTP, while actually I'm using PTP.
Any ideas?

amir77a said:
I'm trying (with no success) to run Helium Backup on my Note 8.
HB doesn't claims that my device is using MTP, while actually I'm using PTP.
Any ideas?
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Helium hasn't work properly for me since Nougat was released. It backs up a few apps then errors out. I can only get 20 or so apps backed up before it fails. I've emailed the developer but no answer so I think he's stopped supporting Helium.
What I do now is use Helium to backup up a few apps that I need to keep the data for then use SmartSwitch for the rest of my apps. Helium still restores apps & data correctly.

I was able to run Helium.
I was using ADB to connect to the Note 8, and then was able to run Helium. BUT the app that I need to backup is blocking the backup... seems that only Titanium can do the job....

Its crazy to think that in 2018 Android still cannot have a non-rooted app to backup all data from apps on a phone. I do not understand why Google or Samsung don't have this done yet. I have also tried Helium with partial success, but like previous comments, it too fails after a while. I have tried everything on the book and it always fails at some point. Very frustrating. There are plenty of apps that will backup your APKs by themselves but none that I know of that back up all data on all the apps. I've even tried ADB commands which don't seem to work correctly either.

Eudeferrer said:
Its crazy to think that in 2018 Android still cannot have a non-rooted app to backup all data from apps on a phone. I do not understand why Google or Samsung don't have this done yet. I have also tried Helium with partial success, but like previous comments, it too fails after a while. I have tried everything on the book and it always fails at some point. Very frustrating. There are plenty of apps that will backup your APKs by themselves but none that I know of that back up all data on all the apps. I've even tried ADB commands which don't seem to work correctly either.
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I totally agree.
For that reason, on some time I will have to root the device in order for TB to work.

Cant get any better than tb in my opinion [emoji16]
Sent from my galaxy s8

adie1234 said:
Cant get any better than tb in my opinion [emoji16]
Sent from my galaxy s8
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TB needs to be able to work without root though.... otherwise you are comparing apples and oranges/ The app has been around forever. It needs to figure this out even if it has to involve connecting to a pc.
Backing up with root regardless of Titanium or not is much easier.
Agree 100% with Amir77's post

I've been trying out Helium, in order to get some of my app data ported from my non-rooted Sony stock Android Xperia XZ to my rooted Xperia Z (with LineageOS running on it), all I can say is that it was a pain in the ass to get it working on my XZ, but it eventually worked, and now I'm like stuck on my Z; Helium just keeps loading and loading and nothing happens.
So yeah, I agree, Titanium Backup needs to work without root as well. Xperia Transfer Mobile doesn't allow receiving app data (and other stuff) to non-Sony devices, and not even to Xperia devices with custom-ROMs, so I'm pretty much stuck here. If I get this working, I'll only be using rooted devices with custom-ROMs on them, and never bother with stock Android from Sony (or any other OEM). If this taught me something, it's that custom-ROMs mean freedom and power to the individual. Of course I knew that before this app data ordeal, but this was the final nail in the coffin for OEM stock Android (proprietary crap!).

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Backup Solution.

Evening All.
I have not long since got my HTC One (UK version of it makes any difference).
It is S-Off, bootlooader unlocked and rooted with TWRP 2.6.3 recovery but currently running stock firmware. I've had a play with ARHD and liked it. However it's a bit of a nause having to re download apps every time I update. The internet were I am is very slow so this takes time.
I know backup solutions exist however I get conflicting reports about the apps. Having come from an iPhone (which I still use as a work phone) I am looking for a backup solution that with either a brand new phone or a factory reset and a new/custom Rom I just hit restore and it puts all my apps data and settings as it was when I backed up. Including things like my layout in widget locker and nova launcher.
I was going to be using helium but then read that you still have to download the APK for all the apps again from Google so that seems a pretty defunct choice.
It's there an app which will backup my phone, I can remove this to my laptop. Then factory reset, reinstall the app (I'm assuming you have to do this) and then I put the backup back on the phone and restore it?
Cloud options are no use due to the slow internet.
Apologies if this has been covered before but I just can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Thanks in advance.
Carl.
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Evening All.
I have not long since got my HTC One (UK version of it makes any difference).
It is S-Off, bootlooader unlocked and rooted with TWRP 2.6.3 recovery but currently running stock firmware. I've had a play with ARHD and liked it. However it's a bit of a nause having to re download apps every time I update. The internet were I am is very slow so this takes time.
I know backup solutions exist however I get conflicting reports about the apps. Having come from an iPhone (which I still use as a work phone) I am looking for a backup solution that with either a brand new phone or a factory reset and a new/custom Rom I just hit restore and it puts all my apps data and settings as it was when I backed up. Including things like my layout in widget locker and nova launcher.
I was going to be using helium but then read that you still have to download the APK for all the apps again from Google so that seems a pretty defunct choice.
It's there an app which will backup my phone, I can remove this to my laptop. Then factory reset, reinstall the app (I'm assuming you have to do this) and then I put the backup back on the phone and restore it?
Cloud options are no use due to the slow internet.
Apologies if this has been covered before but I just can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Thanks in advance.
Carl.
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I use ES File Explorer to backup all the app apk's and HTC backup to my google drive for settings / mms / contacts/ etc
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[Q] Migrating App Data

So I have a Moto X that cannot be rooted. I recently got it. I have my old phone currently. However since it cannot be rooted, I cannot use titanium backup. I tried using my backup pro but it didn't migrate any of the data in the apps. So all of my games progress was gone and is still currently on my old phone. Anyone have any insight? Thanks.
Nothing you can do.... Not that I've heard of.
Not as good as Titanium but you can use Helium...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup&hl=en_GB
From Chainfire so you can trust it
Or, download the Moto-X toolkit and make sure you have the adb drivers for your old phone installed then plug in your old phone and use the Moto-X toolkit and you can backup either individual apps from or your entire phone then once the backup is complete plug in your Moto-X and restore.
Works :victory:

Titanium Backup hangs up on restore in N preview

Hi all, I'm having the classic issue of Titanium Backup getting hung up at 0% when restoring on the N dev preview. I flashed supersu beta 2.71 and have busy box installed. I also have allowed installation from unknown sources, have enabled USB debugging, and disabled mount namespace separation in supersu. I'm all out of ideas and I really need to restore this foshiz. Any help would be appreciated. (This is a nexus 6 of course).
I've never like titanium backup with my Nexus 6. Always had problems. My g2, droid, Gnex, etc all loved it.
Anyways, my guess is either selinux (check and set for permissive), or titanium just isn't compatible with Android N currently (highly likely as android N is just a preview to let developers see what they're working with)
I'm not on N but when I switched from L to M I got the same problem.
What always worked for me was using the update.zip method.
You create it in TitaniumBackup out of your saved apps + data and flash it after you're on N via TWRP.
TB can have problems installing some apps, and get stuck, but if you install that app from Play, it will continue. I recommend you let Google install the apps, then use TB to install data.
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The same issue, but with Marshmallow and Samsung s7 edge..
@RatchetPanda has a mod that allows for restoring apps on N
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-stock-flashables-t3348657
SageWilliams said:
@RatchetPanda has a mod that allows for restoring apps on N
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-stock-flashables-t3348657
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Yes it works, thanks to Aroma you can even flash it, disable all the extras that you don't want and TBU will work.
People post about issues yet leave out any sort of log that will tell what the issue is. This is one of the biggest issues developers have with users. This is why most developers will not reply to issues and almost never come in the Q&A section
If you are gonna post about issues then make sure to do your homework first. Get logs and post them. Try to figure it out for yourself before asking for help. This is not a support forum.
adambombz said:
Hi all, I'm having the classic issue of Titanium Backup getting hung up at 0% when restoring on the N dev preview. I flashed supersu beta 2.71 and have busy box installed. I also have allowed installation from unknown sources, have enabled USB debugging, and disabled mount namespace separation in supersu. I'm all out of ideas and I really need to restore this foshiz. Any help would be appreciated. (This is a nexus 6 of course).
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You might wanna try changing "app processing mode" in preferences, indirect method may help and interactive will install apps using the standard installer if all else fails.
On a related note I'd highly recommend backup+ I've started using it for specifically backups between roms and it worked for me perfectly on N. The app was built with the SELinux changes in mind as one of the first apps to work with restoring apps on Lollipop and I'd guess it has a bit to do with it working for Marshmallow and N w/o needing updates during the previews. It probably won't replace TiBup if you use it for stuff like freezing apps and whatnot. (It is capable of doing system apps, wifi, SMS, and phone logs though it's a separate in-app purchase totaling 2.61USD).
istperson said:
TB can have problems installing some apps, and get stuck, but if you install that app from Play, it will continue. I recommend you let Google install the apps, then use TB to install data.
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dude you just saved me from reverting to marshmallow
bhavstech said:
dude you just saved me from reverting to marshmallow
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Glad I could help!

Question Best backup solution for Jumping between roms

What's everyone using for full backup and restore ?
Quite regularly I've been flashing fastboot between chinese , global ,Eu stable ,Eu weekly and developer preview android 12 and usually Its a pain in the ass to reinstall the apps
(Mi backup solution from cloud and PC isn't good enough and loads of apps just won't work without being reinstalled fresh which is time consuming and boring)
Is there anything like a Nandroid backup possible that's works reliably ?
I haven't flashed roms regularly in several years, back in the day we used to use clockwork mod and TWRP but these are not available yet...
speedtripler said:
What's everyone using for full backup and restore ?
Quite regularly I've been flashing fastboot between chinese , global ,Eu stable ,Eu weekly and developer preview android 12 and usually Its a pain in the ass to reinstall the apps
(Mi backup solution from cloud and PC isn't good enough and loads of apps just won't work without being reinstalled fresh which is time consuming and boring)
Is there anything like a Nandroid backup possible that's works reliably ?
I haven't flashed roms regularly in several years, back in the day we used to use clockwork mod and TWRP but these are not available yet...
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I'm using swift backup.
Using Swift Backup too. Works for 80-90% of the Apps in average. Just some banking apps need fresh install.
And again Swift Backup... I used Titanium Backup much in the past, but for some reason it became pretty unreliable when restoring so I switched...
s3axel said:
And again Swift Backup... I used Titanium Backup much in the past, but for some reason it became pretty unreliable when restoring so I switched...
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Yeah same here. TB is outdated, but was very good in the past!
Migrate worked great on the MI9.
Didn't test on the Ultra because already have global version m
I switch between super backup and swift. both work really well for me, but with Super Backup, you don't need to sign in with the Goolag
I see everybody talking about swift backup.... Bit can you do everything with the free version. I mean all apps, launcher and logins are saved and works 100% with restoring ? I tried it once and I thought it wasn't working without paying for the app

Question Non root app and data backup

I want to root my phone but want to keep all of my data and apps to reinstall after root.
Is there any way i can save everything? I have access to a computer and am on android 13.
Have looked at samsung switch but on a thread someone said that data is not always saved and adb backup is deprecated.
Perhaps NeoBackup would work for you:
https://alternativeto.net/software/oandbackupx/about/
Some few apps I had to login/authorize again but most worked like a charm.
SigmundDroid said:
Perhaps NeoBackup would work for you:
https://alternativeto.net/software/oandbackupx/about/
Some few apps I had to login/authorize again but most worked like a charm.
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Looks good but i am sadly looking for a rootless option that saves apps and their data.
Neobackup sadly doesnt work on my non rooted phone
Groonir said:
rootless option that saves apps and their data
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Isn't that an oxymoron?
I am not very computer literate but i just read up on how lately android has restricted access more and more so i guess ill just have to take screenshots of all my settings and manually restore them later.
Still, is there a good alternative that saves all apps without their data? I think ill be using smart switch then
SigmundDroid said:
Isn't that an oxymoron?
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Hmm, nothing stops you from making multiple backups:
https://alternativeto.net/software/titanium-backup/
I think Titanium is the best known (haven't tried it years though but people still seem happy with it), so check this and its alternatives.
I would be really keen to read about your experience(s). And, of course, plenty of good luck
PS: For calls and SMS I use
https://alternativeto.net/software/sms-backup-and-restore/about/
for years now, on any phone, has never failed me.
SigmundDroid said:
Hmm, nothing stops you from making multiple backups:
https://alternativeto.net/software/titanium-backup/
I think Titanium is the best known (haven't tried it years though but people still seem happy with it), so check this and its alternatives.
I would be really keen to read about your experience(s). And, of course, plenty of good luck
PS: For calls and SMS I use
https://alternativeto.net/software/sms-backup-and-restore/about/
for years now, on any phone, has never failed me.
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Thanks, i will do an update when ill do it
No Root : Samsung Switch is best, No third party app will able to make data backup
Rooted device : Swift Backup best choice. (It will make app backup without root too)
Titanium backup is crap and outdated for newer devices/OS and needs root.
I recommend following in your situation :
Use Samasung Switch and backup - Root device and restore it. There are chances some app may not corretcly restore data but that's limitation and have to accept. Once you have rooted device move to SwiftBackup (or any other that suits you best)

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