Question Non root app and data backup - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

I want to root my phone but want to keep all of my data and apps to reinstall after root.
Is there any way i can save everything? I have access to a computer and am on android 13.
Have looked at samsung switch but on a thread someone said that data is not always saved and adb backup is deprecated.

Perhaps NeoBackup would work for you:
https://alternativeto.net/software/oandbackupx/about/
Some few apps I had to login/authorize again but most worked like a charm.

SigmundDroid said:
Perhaps NeoBackup would work for you:
https://alternativeto.net/software/oandbackupx/about/
Some few apps I had to login/authorize again but most worked like a charm.
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Looks good but i am sadly looking for a rootless option that saves apps and their data.
Neobackup sadly doesnt work on my non rooted phone

Groonir said:
rootless option that saves apps and their data
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Isn't that an oxymoron?

I am not very computer literate but i just read up on how lately android has restricted access more and more so i guess ill just have to take screenshots of all my settings and manually restore them later.
Still, is there a good alternative that saves all apps without their data? I think ill be using smart switch then
SigmundDroid said:
Isn't that an oxymoron?
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Hmm, nothing stops you from making multiple backups:
https://alternativeto.net/software/titanium-backup/
I think Titanium is the best known (haven't tried it years though but people still seem happy with it), so check this and its alternatives.
I would be really keen to read about your experience(s). And, of course, plenty of good luck
PS: For calls and SMS I use
https://alternativeto.net/software/sms-backup-and-restore/about/
for years now, on any phone, has never failed me.

SigmundDroid said:
Hmm, nothing stops you from making multiple backups:
https://alternativeto.net/software/titanium-backup/
I think Titanium is the best known (haven't tried it years though but people still seem happy with it), so check this and its alternatives.
I would be really keen to read about your experience(s). And, of course, plenty of good luck
PS: For calls and SMS I use
https://alternativeto.net/software/sms-backup-and-restore/about/
for years now, on any phone, has never failed me.
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Thanks, i will do an update when ill do it

No Root : Samsung Switch is best, No third party app will able to make data backup
Rooted device : Swift Backup best choice. (It will make app backup without root too)
Titanium backup is crap and outdated for newer devices/OS and needs root.
I recommend following in your situation :
Use Samasung Switch and backup - Root device and restore it. There are chances some app may not corretcly restore data but that's limitation and have to accept. Once you have rooted device move to SwiftBackup (or any other that suits you best)

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[Q] General rooting questions.

Hello, i just got my first smartphone, i have AT&T and i didnt want an iphone and was more drawn toward andriod, so i got a captivate. I would really like to do alot of the things in the "Pimp my captivate" guide but i have some questions first.
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
Ill admit i'm an andriod phone hacking noob, but i do know computers well and programming and have altered other devices in the past.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
I would like to know this as well.
stihl29 said:
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
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Since no updates have come down yet, I don't think anyone is sure of the answer to this. Keep in mind that it's a good idea to make backups of the app APKs on your sdcard before you remove them (just in case you want to reinstall them).
stihl29 said:
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
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Removing AT&T's crappy apps won't affect the phone negatively at all. They simply won't be there, so you can't use them (if you find them useful). The only app that I can think of you may want to keep is the AT&T Hot Spots app so you phone can use free AT&T wifi at locations such as Starbucks.
Yes, you will still get updates as long as you do not install a custom ROM. (Rooting is ok).
The only functionality that will be removed will be that of the apps you delete
Thank you so much this clears up alot of the things I've been wondering.
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Rooting issues
I have tried everything I have found online. The superuser icon is there. I have downloaded several apps that require the device to be rooted. I turned on usb debugging, and turned it off. I've downloaded update.zip several times.
I'm not entirely a noob when it comes to tweaking phones. I flashed roms on windows mobile and performed all sorts of modifications I got off this site.
I have the superuser icon. I downloaded titanium. Titanium says it installed busybox. I downloaded the separate busybox app from the market. That app has a popup saying that a nand unlock is necessary for the app to work. When I run it in spite of the popup, it says the device is rooted, but can't find busybox. A whoami command in adb will indicate that I'm not. I went though adb to reinstall busybox. But whenever I try to run any significant commands (eg su) it gives me a permission denied error. Googling permission denied gives me a myraid of possible causes, but it seems I'm getting far afield. I just want to get rid of the bloatware for now.
Is there another program to root this thing? Did I just miss something incredibly obvious?
hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache
kamots said:
hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache
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You shouldn't ever need to unless you are installing a ROM that requires it. the Dalvik Cache is the Java VM that Android Runs on and it does a very good job of keeping itself cleared. It does lots of Garbage collection on its own.
gotcha! thank you

Working Market fix (tested on TnT Lite, should work elsewhere)

First off, this is not my fix and I take no credit for it - I am just passing it on. Many thanks to xguntherc for posting the original fix, and KorbenD for pointing me in the right direction on Titanium Backup.
Their posts, as a reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9294190&postcount=2835
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9302719&postcount=2846
I will summarize the Titanium Backup solution, as that's the one I had gotten to work. The non-TB solution did not work for me, but still relevant as some people have gotten it to work in cm:
- Get a copy of Titanium Backup and sideload it (free version is fine). http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
- Make sure the Market is working with your Google ID, of course.
- Go into Settings -- Applications -- Manage Applications and Force Stop both the Market and Google Services Frameworks apps.
- In Titanium Backup, go into "Backup/Restore", look for "Google Services Framework 2.2", click on it and then choose "Wipe Data". Then go back to the home screen.
- Run the Market app. You should get an error (that's a good thing, as that's what we want. If you don't get an error, re-try the steps above until you do).
- Reboot, and wait at least a minute after the OS is up to let things stabilize.
- Run the Market again. You should see an immediate difference.
EDIT: You might have to do one more reboot to get apps to actually download and install. I had this issue, but it might have just been me.
I tested this on TnT 1.02, but keep in mind that my TnT is further modded so results may vary. Good luck!
It worked!!! Thanks a million my friend for posting this.
Works on Zpad 1106
Working very nicely on v1 build of the zpad clean V1.0 Thanks this is great!
Updated apps!!! rockplayer is now working he he.... I'm like a kid in a candy store Nice find man
Works perfect on 6.1 beta!!! Thanks!
This doesn't seem to work on a rooted stock g-tablet. I also tried the Titanium Backup method, but no luck. It does give me the Market terms of use on first run.
You guys are going to force me to use a modded firmware! I still want to wait and see what ViewSonic/Flextronics comes out with for an update.
roebeet said:
First off, this is not my fix and I take no credit for it - I am just passing it on. Many thanks to xguntherc for posting the original fix, and KorbenD for pointing me in the right direction on Titanium Backup.
Their posts, as a reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9294190&postcount=2835
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9302719&postcount=2846
I will summarize the Titanium Backup solution, as that's the one I had gotten to work. The non-TB solution did not work for me, but still relevant as some people have gotten it to work in cm:
- Get a copy of Titanium Backup and sideload it (free version is fine). http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
- Make sure the Market is working with your Google ID, of course.
- Go into Settings -- Applications -- Manage Applications and Force Stop both the Market and Google Services Frameworks apps.
- In Titanium Backup, go into "Backup/Restore", look for "Google Services Framework 2.2", click on it and then choose "Wipe Data". Then go back to the home screen.
- Run the Market app. You should get an error (that's a good thing, as that's what we want. If you don't get an error, re-try the steps above until you do).
- Reboot, and wait at least a minute after the OS is up to let things stabilize.
- Run the Market again. You should see an immediate difference.
EDIT: You might have to do one more reboot to get apps to actually download and install. I had this issue, but it might have just been me.
I tested this on TnT 1.02, but keep in mind that my TnT is further modded so results may vary. Good luck!
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I mean this in a manly kind of way... Roeby, I luv you
rushless said:
I mean this in a manly kind of way... Roeby, I luv you
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A Bro-mance!
And again, keep in mind that this was not my fix. I just documented what others found! I don't want to take any credit for this.
wasserkapf said:
This doesn't seem to work on a rooted stock g-tablet. I also tried the Titanium Backup method, but no luck. It does give me the Market terms of use on first run.
You guys are going to force me to use a modded firmware! I still want to wait and see what ViewSonic/Flextronics comes out with for an update.
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Well, as soon as you add gapps, it's technically modded already. You might as well come to the dark side 100%!
roebeet said:
A Bro-mance!
And again, keep in mind that this was not my fix. I just documented what others found! I don't want to take any credit for this.
Well, as soon as you add gapps, it's technically modded already. You might as well come to the dark side 100%!
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Seems this device may steal a lot of the Archos 101's thunder for mid to higher end Android users, since easy to root and a LOT more powerful. Apparently both devices have the same display too. Need to see the Archos 101 in "person" to confirm this, but Youtube vids show the same weak angles.
Talk about irony. Archos talks smack and is a month and a half late (even later for 2.2), only to be beat to and in channels by a device with no smack talk. Ironic.
wasserkapf said:
This doesn't seem to work on a rooted stock g-tablet. I also tried the Titanium Backup method, but no luck. It does give me the Market terms of use on first run.
You guys are going to force me to use a modded firmware! I still want to wait and see what ViewSonic/Flextronics comes out with for an update.
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Using rooted and gapp OTA vanilla TnT.
Market fix worked. Had to reboot x3 though
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Using rooted and gapp OTA vanilla TnT.
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Not sure what OTA means. Is this firmware you flashed, and not as it comes from the factory?
Market fix worked. Had to reboot x3 though
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Did you start Market after each reboot? Or did you just reboot three times.
OTA: Using the vanilla post over the air update to... 2638(?) I think?
Tried Market everytime. And each time it came with error screen.
Last one came populated
Hope it helps
I don't seem to be able to get the desired results, no matter how many times I reboot.
If the ViewSonic update doesn't give a decent market, I will reset the device and start over. I'm still not convinced that I need to install a custom ROM.
wasserkapf said:
I don't seem to be able to get the desired results, no matter how many times I reboot.
If the ViewSonic update doesn't give a decent market, I will reset the device and start over. I'm still not convinced that I need to install a custom ROM.
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The Viewsonic update is going to be a device reset, for all intents and purposes - that's why I'm not making any mods until that comes out.
wasserkapf said:
This doesn't seem to work on a rooted stock g-tablet. I also tried the Titanium Backup method, but no luck. It does give me the Market terms of use on first run.
You guys are going to force me to use a modded firmware! I still want to wait and see what ViewSonic/Flextronics comes out with for an update.
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I'm using this fix on stock, rooted G Tab & it is working great. I followed the video in the thread to flush the cache and all is up and running.
Is my Titanium Backup not installed properly? (first time ever trying to use it, I'm a total n00b on all of this) I get to Backup/Restore, but don't see any sort of Google Framework entry. Is there something I need to run first?
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Is my Titanium Backup not installed properly? (first time ever trying to use it, I'm a total n00b on all of this) I get to Backup/Restore, but don't see any sort of Google Framework entry. Is there something I need to run first?
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It should be in there - it's "Google Services Framework 2.2", it's alphabetical.
You have gapps installed, I assume? Market is there?
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It should be in there - it's "Google Services Framework 2.2", it's alphabetical.
You have gapps installed, I assume? Market is there?
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I sideloaded Market, didn't use the TNT/gapps loader. So perhaps that's my problem. (Though I don't see any apps listed in Titanium Backup/Restore. Maybe it has something to do with the error I get about "BusyBox works but the 'su' command does not elevate to root" when I open it.)
(Can't do the YouTube Market fix, either, because I have no option in the TnT Settings / Applications to Clear Data--only Clear Cache is there)
I imagine I'll be going to TNTlite pretty soon, but I was waiting for the OTA for.... no particular reason, really.
Thanks.
This worked great for me using tntlite 2.0, but this step "- Go into Settings -- Applications -- Manage Applications and Force Stop both the Market and Google Services Frameworks apps." the manage applications buttton was missing.. the actual button I used was System Applications.. otherwise the instructions worked. also be patient when you are wiping data in titanium backup, after hitting the button it does take a while before it will show a popup saying "data wipe complete"

Does Helium Backup is working on your device?

I'm trying (with no success) to run Helium Backup on my Note 8.
HB doesn't claims that my device is using MTP, while actually I'm using PTP.
Any ideas?
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I'm trying (with no success) to run Helium Backup on my Note 8.
HB doesn't claims that my device is using MTP, while actually I'm using PTP.
Any ideas?
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Helium hasn't work properly for me since Nougat was released. It backs up a few apps then errors out. I can only get 20 or so apps backed up before it fails. I've emailed the developer but no answer so I think he's stopped supporting Helium.
What I do now is use Helium to backup up a few apps that I need to keep the data for then use SmartSwitch for the rest of my apps. Helium still restores apps & data correctly.
I was able to run Helium.
I was using ADB to connect to the Note 8, and then was able to run Helium. BUT the app that I need to backup is blocking the backup... seems that only Titanium can do the job....
Its crazy to think that in 2018 Android still cannot have a non-rooted app to backup all data from apps on a phone. I do not understand why Google or Samsung don't have this done yet. I have also tried Helium with partial success, but like previous comments, it too fails after a while. I have tried everything on the book and it always fails at some point. Very frustrating. There are plenty of apps that will backup your APKs by themselves but none that I know of that back up all data on all the apps. I've even tried ADB commands which don't seem to work correctly either.
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Its crazy to think that in 2018 Android still cannot have a non-rooted app to backup all data from apps on a phone. I do not understand why Google or Samsung don't have this done yet. I have also tried Helium with partial success, but like previous comments, it too fails after a while. I have tried everything on the book and it always fails at some point. Very frustrating. There are plenty of apps that will backup your APKs by themselves but none that I know of that back up all data on all the apps. I've even tried ADB commands which don't seem to work correctly either.
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I totally agree.
For that reason, on some time I will have to root the device in order for TB to work.
Cant get any better than tb in my opinion [emoji16]
Sent from my galaxy s8
adie1234 said:
Cant get any better than tb in my opinion [emoji16]
Sent from my galaxy s8
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TB needs to be able to work without root though.... otherwise you are comparing apples and oranges/ The app has been around forever. It needs to figure this out even if it has to involve connecting to a pc.
Backing up with root regardless of Titanium or not is much easier.
Agree 100% with Amir77's post
I've been trying out Helium, in order to get some of my app data ported from my non-rooted Sony stock Android Xperia XZ to my rooted Xperia Z (with LineageOS running on it), all I can say is that it was a pain in the ass to get it working on my XZ, but it eventually worked, and now I'm like stuck on my Z; Helium just keeps loading and loading and nothing happens.
So yeah, I agree, Titanium Backup needs to work without root as well. Xperia Transfer Mobile doesn't allow receiving app data (and other stuff) to non-Sony devices, and not even to Xperia devices with custom-ROMs, so I'm pretty much stuck here. If I get this working, I'll only be using rooted devices with custom-ROMs on them, and never bother with stock Android from Sony (or any other OEM). If this taught me something, it's that custom-ROMs mean freedom and power to the individual. Of course I knew that before this app data ordeal, but this was the final nail in the coffin for OEM stock Android (proprietary crap!).

UPDATED 5/4/19 Working Trusted Face/Face unlock

I was doing a data migration Via Titanium backup for my new Razer 2 from a OnePlus 6 and decided to try it's trusted face restore. I had tried magisk modules and apk downloads from other websites when I found out it wasn't available out of the box. I'll add the apk itself and the titanium files. Let me know how it works with just the apk. And if the bare apk doesn't work use titanium back up and let it restore as a system app.
EDIT:
Time to resurrect an old thread, I removed the app and tried it again using the packages I provided and ran into the same issue. Attached below is a titanium backup of my new working app. If you cannot get it working with the attached zip download the latest NANO Open GAPPS package available at https://opengapps.org/. I got it working again by installing the nano package. Let me know how it works guys ?
And here's a zipped file with the titanium backup
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I was doing a data migration Via Titanium backup for my new Razer 2 from a OnePlus 6 and decided to try it's trusted face restore. I had tried magisk modules and apk downloads from other websites when I found out it wasn't available out of the box. I'll add the apk itself and the titanium files. Let me know how it works with just the apk. And if the bare apk doesn't work use titanium back up and let it restore as a system app.
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So are you saying that it does work for you? Are you on Pie?
Yes it works and yes I'm on pie. It actually works incredibly well. The app came from my OnePlus 6 on pie. I'm rooted and did it through titanium backup though. If someone unrooted tests just the apk report back.
I'm unrooted tried to install app no good doesn't work
How to restore this with titanium? sorry but it's have been a while since I used titanium
Edit: managed that titanium recognize the backup but it doesn't get restored it stays on 0%
Edit 2: now it gots restored but gives me a FC if I try to add a face
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I'm unrooted tried to install app no good doesn't work
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With the apk you went into the settings/security/smart Lock/ and didn't see trusted face in there then?
Ventigo said:
How to restore this with titanium? sorry but it's have been a while since I used titanium
Edit: managed that titanium recognize the backup but it doesn't get restored it stays on 0%
Edit 2: now it gots restored but gives me a FC if I try to add a face
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The app is still installed correct? From there, to try and fix the force close go into the applications from settings and clear the data from the app and try the setup again.
TardisJacker said:
The app is still installed correct? From there, to try and fix the force close go into the applications from settings and clear the data from the app and try the setup again.
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Yes it's installed correct and appears in smart Lock.
Clearing data doesn't help (was the first what I have tried).
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Yes it's installed correct and appears in smart Lock.
Clearing data doesn't help (was the first what I have tried).
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Could you check the permissions it's granted in applications? Make sure it has access to everything. If that doesn't do it I'll remove the app from my device and do a fresh restore with my titanium file I posted. If it works for me again I'll post all the steps I took and add some screenshots in the original post as an edit
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Could you check the permissions it's granted in applications? Make sure it has access to everything. If that doesn't do it I'll remove the app from my device and do a fresh restore with my titanium file I posted. If it works for me again I'll post all the steps I took and add some screenshots in the original post as an edit
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All permissions granted it only asked for camera
TardisJacker said:
With the apk you went into the settings/security/smart Lock/ and didn't see trusted face in there then?
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The app doesn't install just fails
app cannot be installed.
As of now read the updated instructions and you should be set on getting trusted face working. Quick summary is install the nano GAPPS package and it will appear in settings -> security -> smart lock. I think the install via app method in the original post didn't work because there were missing libraries that the package installs.
Smart locks do not have face recognition. (Have you received a security update in the last six months? This system cannot be updated in China.)?
潇霄小云 said:
Smart locks do not have face recognition. (Have you received a security update in the last six months? This system cannot be updated in China.)?
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No, I haven't had any updates since February. Looks like Razer already cut support for the 2
I'll look and see if there are any methods that can be used in China for this. I have a feeling the downloads will be blocked since it's a Google app :crying:.
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No, I haven't had any updates since February. Looks like Razer already cut support for the 2
I'll look and see if there are any methods that can be used in China for this. I have a feeling the downloads will be blocked since it's a Google app :crying:.
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I like to play games, but this phone, the system is very bad, inexplicable Caton, I think rp3 will not be launched, rp2 system update should seek third-party development (if there is a very good third party I am willing to try)。:highfive:
潇霄小云 said:
I like to play games, but this phone, the system is very bad, inexplicable Caton, I think rp3 will not be launched, rp2 system update should seek third-party development (if there is a very good third party I am willing to try)。:highfive:
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Honestly I'm thinking about trying to build AOSP like lineage from scratch for this thing. I agree that the system is pretty bad.
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Honestly I'm thinking about trying to build AOSP like lineage from scratch for this thing. I agree that the system is pretty bad.
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I did see where the Razer Phone (first phone) was now LineageOS supported, too. First saw it unofficial, and as of yesterday, officially supported.
TardisJacker said:
Honestly I'm thinking about trying to build AOSP like lineage from scratch for this thing. I agree that the system is pretty bad.
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Please share if you can get it built. I don't think anyone is working on our device.

Question Best backup solution for Jumping between roms

What's everyone using for full backup and restore ?
Quite regularly I've been flashing fastboot between chinese , global ,Eu stable ,Eu weekly and developer preview android 12 and usually Its a pain in the ass to reinstall the apps
(Mi backup solution from cloud and PC isn't good enough and loads of apps just won't work without being reinstalled fresh which is time consuming and boring)
Is there anything like a Nandroid backup possible that's works reliably ?
I haven't flashed roms regularly in several years, back in the day we used to use clockwork mod and TWRP but these are not available yet...
speedtripler said:
What's everyone using for full backup and restore ?
Quite regularly I've been flashing fastboot between chinese , global ,Eu stable ,Eu weekly and developer preview android 12 and usually Its a pain in the ass to reinstall the apps
(Mi backup solution from cloud and PC isn't good enough and loads of apps just won't work without being reinstalled fresh which is time consuming and boring)
Is there anything like a Nandroid backup possible that's works reliably ?
I haven't flashed roms regularly in several years, back in the day we used to use clockwork mod and TWRP but these are not available yet...
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I'm using swift backup.
Using Swift Backup too. Works for 80-90% of the Apps in average. Just some banking apps need fresh install.
And again Swift Backup... I used Titanium Backup much in the past, but for some reason it became pretty unreliable when restoring so I switched...
s3axel said:
And again Swift Backup... I used Titanium Backup much in the past, but for some reason it became pretty unreliable when restoring so I switched...
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Yeah same here. TB is outdated, but was very good in the past!
Migrate worked great on the MI9.
Didn't test on the Ultra because already have global version m
I switch between super backup and swift. both work really well for me, but with Super Backup, you don't need to sign in with the Goolag
I see everybody talking about swift backup.... Bit can you do everything with the free version. I mean all apps, launcher and logins are saved and works 100% with restoring ? I tried it once and I thought it wasn't working without paying for the app

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