Miui-based Roms vs AOSP-based - Xiaomi Mi Max 2 Questions & Answers

I am new to moding on mi max 2.
My question is :
What are the advantages of flashing an AOSP-based rom like the unofficial lineageos versions posted here which are in beta in contrast with something like epicrom which is miui global-dev based with added features and customizations on top (and arguably more stable) ?
(also I have to install gapps, root and pretty much everything manually. And I also won't have over the air updates like some miui based Roms offer, so I have to come here and wipe everything to flash a newer version)
Please enlighten me if you have made comparisons yourself and know the differences.
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Voidablazer said:
I am new to moding on mi max 2.
My question is :
What are the advantages of flashing an AOSP-based rom like the unofficial lineageos versions posted here which are in beta in contrast with something like epicrom which is miui global-dev based with added features and customizations on top (and arguably more stable) ?
(also I have to install gapps, root and pretty much everything manually. And I also won't have over the air updates like some miui based Roms offer, so I have to come here and wipe everything to flash a newer version)
Please enlighten me if you have made comparisons yourself and know the differences.
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First and the very important, battery life. Lineage OS wipes out Miui when it comes to battery life.

Personal Opinion
In my experience people flash custom roms like lineage os because they either want to give a new look to there phone experience or for the latest security patches or the stock firmware for there phone doesnt include the features they want

yep, nicely summed up
looks / UI, security patches, newer android version (miui is still on 7.1.1), features, battery life, having something "custom" on your phone
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Community development strength

You're a power user. Can the LeEco Le 2 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the LeEco Le 2. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Yes we have so many good devs for this beast and the one man army codeworkx also.
we have awesome developer only major roadblock is leeco itself they neither are releasing any updates nor releasing IR blaster and camera blobs.
@codeworkx is one man army and he is the only hope for lineage sources .
Yes, we have very good developer support but without camera and IR blaster fix it is not worth to switch to custom ROMs also lineage doesn't have real nougat UI instead its old marshmallow UI
Hoping to get a fully functional ROM is future.
Xlent devs and community
Owning a Le Eco Le S2, and a Pro3 I can attest that both Lineage OS and Paranoid Android are fairly stable.
Some small issues on the S2, as mentioned above. Though it was a daily driver on LOS 14.1 for about a month with only a couple crashes, both times phone would freeze while making a call, on Bluetooth, via voice prompts with Android Auto open. So it's very much an edge case.
S3 X626 compatibility
This is compatible with the one indicated S3 X626
or have a forum or open topics of which S3
I want to know about rom and pre-installed applications
example I found that the fast battery was getting hot and freezing
I saw that application (com.letv.android.personalized) had a CPU consumption of 88%
every time I start the force close application Custom Service
in this way I get it to work well
in the same way I would like to know about pre-installed applications and know which ones I can eliminate
thanks
Some of the post above are out of date. Yes, there are many options for the L2 and all of its Snapdragon variations EX: X5** Series. My kids both have the X522 and are using custom roms without any issue to speak of. Currently they are both using Lineage one is using 15.1 and the other is using Codeworks 14.1. At this time, I would recommend Codeworks version.
tsongming said:
My kids both have the X522 and are using custom roms without any issue to speak of. Currently they are both using Lineage one is using 15.1 and the other is using Codeworks 14.1. At this time, I would recommend Codeworks version.
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You seem to have dabbled with custom ROMS on this device. My question is, have you found a good/working fix for the glaring shortcomings of most custom Nougat and Oreo ROMS. I'm talking about the camera problems in N ROMS and encryption issues in Oreo ROMS. There are Pie ROMS out now but I can't pull the trigger on anything other than stock or stock-based ROMS because my phone is a daily driver.
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twistyplain said:
You seem to have dabbled with custom ROMS on this device. My question is, have you found a good/working fix for the glaring shortcomings of most custom Nougat and Oreo ROMS. I'm talking about the camera problems in N ROMS and encryption issues in Oreo ROMS. There are Pie ROMS out now but I can't pull the trigger on anything other than stock or stock-based ROMS because my phone is a daily driver.
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My personal phones are X727's both using Pie as daily drivers, with te Arnova Pixel Mod Gcam.
My daughter has a X522 with Lineage 15.1 Oreo, My Son still using dotOS Oreo, both with ATT service, and is using the Arnova Pixel ported Camera - no issues as daily drivers. Stock does not compare to these new Roms. We haven't installed Pie on my kids phones yet. but it is my understanding that it is very stable.
If you try a newer Rom, Use firmware by Codeworks, and avoid the issues that so many with a X5XX seem to have with GPS, WIFI and mobile.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lineageos-on-leeco/files/firmware/ ( Your phone is the S2)
Flash your TWRP ( for your device) Rom of Choice, Gapps Nano, Latest Magisk, Flash Firmware
Finished Boot to system and go through setup.
tsongming said:
If you try a newer Rom, Use firmware by Codeworks, and avoid the issues that so many with a X5XX seem to have with GPS, WIFI and mobile.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lineageos-on-leeco/files/firmware/ ( Your phone is the S2)
Flash your TWRP ( for your device) Rom of Choice, Gapps Nano, Latest Magisk, Flash Firmware
Finished Boot to system and go through setup.
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Thanks. My le 2 just arrived. I think I'll try every stable(ish) custom ROM out there and settle on one. I really haven't used any Nougat or Oreo phone so I have little to compare my Marshmallow to. Guess I'll just try them out to see the new features and if I find a stable enough one, I'll stick with it. But stability always trumps fancy features that I might use once a fortnight.
twistyplain said:
Thanks. My le 2 just arrived. I think I'll try every stable(ish) custom ROM out there and settle on one. I really haven't used any Nougat or Oreo phone so I have little to compare my Marshmallow to. Guess I'll just try them out to see the new features and if I find a stable enough one, I'll stick with it. But stability always trumps fancy features that I might use once a fortnight.
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Again, I haven't tried Pie on the Le 2 yet ( we have X522's - you may not be aware that X522, X526 etc are all the same phone) I would start with Pie. IF PIE ( android 9.0) performs nearly as well on your device as it does for the Le Pro 3, it will be the one you like the most.
Pie, is stable, beautiful, has amazing battery life etc.
Enjoy
tsongming said:
Again, I haven't tried Pie on the Le 2 yet ( we have X522's - you may not be aware that X522, X526 etc are all the same phone) I would start with Pie. IF PIE ( android 9.0) performs nearly as well on your device as it does for the Le Pro 3, it will be the one you like the most.
Pie, is stable, beautiful, has amazing battery life etc.
Enjoy
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Yeah, I'm taking Stock EUI for a day's ride and thereafter try two EUI-based ROMS then I'm off to pie. There's one particular version that's very actively being developed so I'll probably land there first.
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Loved the support given by the devs. They have created s o many beautiful roms. Devs are kind and always ready to help. Great support.
As the s2 gets older and older, devs are gradually abandoning it. It's Glory days are over and just a handful of devs are still making ROMs for this device and maintaining them. Also afaik, only overload kernel is the kernel still being actively developed. Development on all other kernels have seized. It's painful to see the community slowly die but that's the harsh reality.

[Question] ¿The best nougat stock/debloated/light rom?

EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, I meant to post this on the Redmi4x / Santoni subforum.
Greetings, I think this is my first post here (sorry, I'm still practicing my english and this post may have horrible mistakes).
Currently I'm using the latest version of MIUI (9.x I think), but as much as I love this phone I've always been in love with the performance and customization... and this phone has a hell of a bloatware.
I'm aware of the latest Oreo roms and I know recently Xiaomi has released the source code for the santoni phone but still no rom is perfect, specially the Oreo ones, so I'm looking for the closest aosp/stock experience I can get with full compatibility, I think a nougat based rom will do fine but wich one?
I'm planning to install a rom, install greenify, have a good battery life, have more free space and still have full camera, gps and other compatibility with no issues.
Wich rom could you recommend me?
Thanks in advance.
Wence-kun said:
EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, I meant to post this on the Redmi4x / Santoni subforum.
Greetings, I think this is my first post here (sorry, I'm still practicing my english and this post may have horrible mistakes).
Currently I'm using the latest version of MIUI (9.x I think), but as much as I love this phone I've always been in love with the performance and customization... and this phone has a hell of a bloatware.
I'm aware of the latest Oreo roms and I know recently Xiaomi has released the source code for the santoni phone but still no rom is perfect, specially the Oreo ones, so I'm looking for the closest aosp/stock experience I can get with full compatibility, I think a nougat based rom will do fine but wich one?
I'm planning to install a rom, install greenify, have a good battery life, have more free space and still have full camera, gps and other compatibility with no issues.
Wich rom could you recommend me?
Thanks in advance.
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Aex official Oreo or pixel experience
Mi-Globe MIUI based on the latest official or developer release. Can be customised to your needs.
Working beautifully and you can remove all the leftover MI crap with system app remover, free from the store.
None of the 3rd party ROMs have the excellent battery life as MIUI unfortunately.
Google search Loup 14.1 for santoni.
It is by noyer,father of development on santoni.
For some reason he isn't on XDA but his ROM is what you need you can follow him on github and twitter though.He even managed to port Sailfish Os for Santoni. I'm using Loup 14 with clarity kernel and experience is awesome.
peron said:
Mi-Globe MIUI based on the latest official or developer release. Can be customised to your needs.
Working beautifully and you can remove all the leftover MI crap with system app remover, free from the store.
None of the 3rd party ROMs have the excellent battery life as MIUI unfortunately.
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correct..i thought to suggest the questioner...but you did before me. by the way, once rooted the Stock ROM? all bloat-wares from google and Mi can be removed...Battery and Phone performance everything is good.
even i tried a some recent official releases of Oreo 8.1 for R4x , first few days everything good, later Battery life tarts in consistency. so, i back to stock but removed all Google and Mi's apps ..only very few mi services still existing on my rom, if i delete them my phone gets locked and i need to do everything from scratch again, so i let them persist... Go for stable miui global 9.2 and keep remove the stock bloatwares.
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Most stable and fast nougat based non-miui Rom?

I own my max2 since 1.5 years now. It is unlocked.
I use Mi globe rom which is really stable.
But with updating from miui 8 to 9, i had the feeling, that 9 is slower, than miui8 (I know that miui said it Would be faster, than 8)
Since some days, I use miui 10 now.
Also at Mi globe rom.
But the same here, miui 8 is faster than 10, too.
The newer roms based on the known devs like Lineage on Android 8 and 9 seem to have some bugs, which nobody can fix 100 %.
So this is no option to me.
So of i try another rom, it has to be based on Nougat to use All Features of my device correctly. Maybe on top with a better camera software, that doesnt autofocus permanently like in miui.
Can someone Tell me, which one, is the most stable and fastest android7 based non-miui rom? The number of roms is that much..... To much to test them all
If there is non of the ones at xda, i Would think about going back to miui8 based Mi globe rom,which i still have a nandroid Image saved
I know that security patches Would be worse then...
Thanks alot
robert980 said:
I own my max2 since 1.5 years now. It is unlocked.
I use Mi globe rom which is really stable.
But with updating from miui 8 to 9, i had the feeling, that 9 is slower, than miui8 (I know that miui said it Would be faster, than 8)
Since some days, I use miui 10 now.
Also at Mi globe rom.
But the same here, miui 8 is faster than 10, too.
The newer roms based on the known devs like Lineage on Android 8 and 9 seem to have some bugs, which nobody can fix 100 %.
So this is no option to me.
So of i try another rom, it has to be based on Nougat to use All Features of my device correctly. Maybe on top with a better camera software, that doesnt autofocus permanently like in miui.
Can someone Tell me, which one, is the most stable and fastest android7 based non-miui rom? The number of roms is that much..... To much to test them all
If there is non of the ones at xda, i Would think about going back to miui8 based Mi globe rom,which i still have a nandroid Image saved
I know that security patches Would be worse then...
Thanks alot
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why not just upgrade to Pie ROM? ArrowOS looks pretty awesome and stable
jbmc83 said:
why not just upgrade to Pie ROM? ArrowOS looks pretty awesome and stable
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Pie ROMs have bugs.
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robert980 said:
.Can someone Tell me, which one, is the most stable and fastest android7 based non-miui ROM?
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That's exactly what I want to know.
Imho should the developers first fix all bugs and after this is ready then going to newer Android bases, like from 8 to 9....
Only because a base version is newer, doesnt automatically mean that it is better. And more bug free.
When bugs are in elemental features like doing a phonecall, this is absolutely non accetable to me.
Hope this doesnt sound to hard, because I really appreciate the work of the devs.
Pidus said:
Pie ROMs have bugs.
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really? like what? i just switched to ArrowOS and havent seen anything out of the ordinary. admittedly, only been on it for a day, but so far its stable. also keeping tabs on all the Pie ROM threads (to keep the index thread up to date ) all "bugs" reported by users so far have been due to user error, i.e. using wrong TWRP, dirty flashing, using excessive amounts of mods (substratum, magisk modules, audio enhancements, etc.).
viperOS 3.1.1 + hardrock kernel 20.2 ?
tried the 3 GHz hardrock Kernel?
Maybe a little bit too much, for the hardware
Looking for same...

Best ROM for pure android (one plus/pixel) experience

Hi everyone,
I have had a Google Nexus 5 and a one plus 3, so the experience with MIUI feels strange.
I have tried with china, global and Xiaomi EU ROMs.
I have seen here in xda a ROM call pixel experience
I wanted to know your opinion about the best option.
And this pixel experience ROM does anyone know how much time takes the updates from China ROM to be in this one? Will it work on android Q beta?
Thanks!!
VictorCallejas said:
Hi everyone,
I have had a Google Nexus 5 and a one plus 3, so the experience with MIUI feels strange.
I have tried with china, global and Xiaomi EU ROMs.
I have seen here in xda a ROM call pixel experience
I wanted to know your opinion about the best option.
And this pixel experience ROM does anyone know how much time takes the updates from China ROM to be in this one? Will it work on android Q beta?
Thanks!!
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MIUI is very divisive, I'm on the hate it side.
Pixel experience, as the name suggests, is a modified version of the Pixel phones ROM. So it will be more to what your used to. Personally I've never tried it, as it has too many Google apps baked in for my liking.
There's the Lineage ROM, which is also very close to a stock Android feel.
Finally, there's the Resurrection Remix ROM, which is based on Lineage but cherry picks from a variety of other ROMs to give much more customisation and features.
In time there will be a more ROMs arriving, quite possibly an Oxygen OS ROM.
All of these are based on AOSP, so have no reliance on the stock MIUI, other than for the vendor images. At the moment the dedicated ROMs are still in early development and have a few issues to iron out, mainly flaky FP sensor performance, but are stable enough for daily use.
There's also GSI ROMs too. Though these have a few extra issues over the dedicated ROMs. I'm using the Havoc GSI and the small number of issues with it don't really affect me (except the flaky FP sensor, which isn't too bad to live with)
All of these ROMs will want an official ROM installed first, before flashing, to ensure the correct vendor image is installed. I wouldn't recommend installing over the Q beta ROM directly.
Thank you very much!!! Your explanation is really helpful??
Robbo.5000 said:
MIUI is very divisive, I'm on the hate it side.
Pixel experience, as the name suggests, is a modified version of the Pixel phones ROM. So it will be more to what your used to. Personally I've never tried it, as it has too many Google apps baked in for my liking.
There's the Lineage ROM, which is also very close to a stock Android feel.
Finally, there's the Resurrection Remix ROM, which is based on Lineage but cherry picks from a variety of other ROMs to give much more customisation and features.
In time there will be a more ROMs arriving, quite possibly an Oxygen OS ROM.
All of these are based on AOSP, so have no reliance on the stock MIUI, other than for the vendor images. At the moment the dedicated ROMs are still in early development and have a few issues to iron out, mainly flaky FP sensor performance, but are stable enough for daily use.
There's also GSI ROMs too. Though these have a few extra issues over the dedicated ROMs. I'm using the Havoc GSI and the small number of issues with it don't really affect me (except the flaky FP sensor, which isn't too bad to live with)
All of these ROMs will want an official ROM installed first, before flashing, to ensure the correct vendor image is installed. I wouldn't recommend installing over the Q beta ROM directly.
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This guy @Robbo.5000 knows what he's talking about! Listen to him! Personally, I'm waiting for the OxygenOS rom considering that I've previously had a Oneplus. MIUI, is a hit or miss, in my opinion. That being said, I can live with it till the time a stable OxygenOS arrives. Best of luck!
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Yes, Oxygen OS will be great!!
I think I am going to install pixel experience ROM and when Oxygen OS for androidQ comes out I will upgrade.
I think this will be in the 3rd quarter of this year or something like thay, am I wrong?
Thanks!
VictorCallejas said:
Yes, Oxygen OS will be great!!
I think I am going to install pixel experience ROM and when Oxygen OS for androidQ comes out I will upgrade.
I think this will be in the 3rd quarter of this year or something like thay, am I wrong?
Thanks!
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Yes! Quite likely around that time!
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I am in love with pixel experience ROM!!
No errors until now and the great pixel experience.

Disadvantages of flashing custom rom?

Hello guys, I have a brand new mi9tpro with global rom and even though it works great, i cant stand all the google and mi bloatware so i wanted to flash another rom (miui or non miui)
The question is, do i lose something if a flash a custom rom? Let's say for example some quality on the camera or stuff like that.
I come from samsung where non samsung roms had to use generic drivers and thus the camera quality was horrible in comparison, and I dont want the same happening with this phone now, so i'd only flash a non miui based rom if the quality and functionalities remain exactly the same.
Thanks in advance!
Facuu said:
Hello guys, I have a brand new mi9tpro with global rom and even though it works great, i cant stand all the google and mi bloatware so i wanted to flash another rom (miui or non miui)
The question is, do i lose something if a flash a custom rom? Let's say for example some quality on the camera or stuff like that.
I come from samsung where non samsung roms had to use generic drivers and thus the camera quality was horrible in comparison, and I dont want the same happening with this phone now, so i'd only flash a non miui based rom if the quality and functionalities remain exactly the same.
Thanks in advance!
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My Mi 9T Pro is now under the latest beta from xiaomi.eu. Although it may be similar to stock ROM, I have frozen 69 apps (what you refer as google and bloatware).
I have tried a few smaller custom ROMs and most gave me bootloops probably because I did not install gapps. Why would I want to leave a nicely working xiaomi.eu beta ROM for something else which requires gapps and has more bugs ?
Miui.eu miui custom rom: No downsides.
AOSP based custom rom: Less battery life, instability, worse navigation gestures, most likely bootloops if you do something wrong.
Currently I'd stick to miui.eu until our device stops getting official updates. And even a year or so after that. I am a big fan of AOSP software, but it's just not as good for our device.
This all depends on personal preference and philosophy.
Some people prefer to follow the engineering prime directive: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
You do say the device is working great, so...
The other school follows the concept of: "if it ain't broke, tweak it until it is".
and you do say you can't stand it, so maybe you belong to the second group.
Then clearly a custom rom is the only alternative you have.
Some ROMs are pretty stable and contrary to the opinion of the previous comment, users report equal or better battery life.
The only 3 real complaints I have heard about are a. the fingerprint sensor performance (and even then reports vary widely), b. lack of OTA and problems with dirty flashing, and c. no android auto support.
Camera is same or better with ANX or Gcam.
True, the fact there were 4, now 3, different firmwares and SKUs greatly hurt and slowed down development and testing for this device, and also the timing with the release of Android10,
but some official releases exist and custom ROMs are slowly getting there.
If you really can't stand google, I recommend you to check out LineageOS or SyberiaOS with MicroG.
It will take fiddling, reading online and troubleshooting, but other than time it costs you nothing.
Worst case, you can always go back to Miui.
In another thread an XDA Recognized Developer has a PC program that makes it simple to disable MIUI and Google bloatware. You might want to try that before resorting to flashing a custom ROM.
Despite what people here say I've tried MIUI.EU on previous Xiaomi phones and always found even the supposedly stable builds to be buggy.
REV OS is a much more stable MIUI based ROM. Unlike MIUI.EU the devs for REV OS extensively test every build for bugs before releasing them to users.
I loved REV OS on my MI 9 but have stuck to stock MIUI on my MI 9T Pro so far. I did do some debloating using the program I mentioned.
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If you are new to Xiaomi you should read up on the bootloader unlock process which seems to drive many people crazy.
>Disadvantages of flashing custom rom?
Flashing drivers manually is a major pain in the ass for me. These days OTA from custom ROMs are seemless and automatic. Otherwise it used to be another major problem with it. Another problem might be you might brick your phone. Another major problem is that none of the custom ROMs for this device are perfect and bug free. I am only sticking with MIUI for this specific reason.
jhs39 said:
In another thread an XDA Recognized Developer has a PC program that makes it simple to disable MIUI and Google bloatware. You might want to try that before resorting to flashing a custom ROM.
Despite what people here say I've tried MIUI.EU on previous Xiaomi phones and always found even the supposedly stable builds to be buggy.
REV OS is a much more stable MIUI based ROM. Unlike MIUI.EU the devs for REV OS extensively test every build for bugs before releasing them to users.
I loved REV OS on my MI 9 but have stuck to stock MIUI on my MI 9T Pro so far. I did do some debloating using the program I mentioned.
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If you are new to Xiaomi you should read up on the bootloader unlock process which seems to drive many people crazy.
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I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
Lethalben said:
I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
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I agree, Revos is a very good stable MIUI ROM. Never found an issue with it, and there default kernel is good (on Pocophone F1).
Lethalben said:
I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
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I don't think the devs of REV OS want their ROM on XDA. Many devs soured on XDA and stopped maintaining ROM threads here.
At this point most of the ROMs on XDA are either unofficial or are threads that aren't created, maintained or supported by the Devs actually responsible for the ROMs.
And part of the user agreement for most ROMs that maintain their own website is that you are forbidden from creating any external links for those ROMs.

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