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In the recent 4.3 update, the Nexus 4's touch screen was revamped, and obtained much increased responsiveness. The same responsiveness you get on a Galaxy or iPhone device. But something still didn't feel right to me, it wasn't AS responsive (on the home screens) to me as a Galaxy Note 2, or an iPhone.
It's because when you swipe, there's this initial, miniscule, 2-3mm delay before it chooses to swipe. Similar to that 1cm pinch-to-zoom delay, which I believe is a feature to prevent accidental scrolling. Try it yourself: Swipe your finger for around 2-3mm, and you will note nothing happening. I think that swipe delay is also a "feature" to let your finger move a little when holding the home screen for the menu to pop up, so I believe it can be fixed, because the touch software otherwise should be on par with other devices. LG/Google should get rid of these delays altogether to be honest, the majority doesn't prefer them anyway.
I feel it's more like the dead zone has been increased, I don't like it what ever it is.
Gone back to the 015 driver from initial 4.2 pre release.
I don't mind nor really notice it.
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In the recent 4.3 update, the Nexus 4's touch screen was revamped, and obtained much increased responsiveness. The same responsiveness you get on a Galaxy or iPhone device.
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I really couldn't see the difference from the previous version. The "dead zones" feel exactly the same as they were before. Good thing it's barely noticeable and not too annoying unless you're paying attention to it.
Yea but is there anyway to reach out to them so they can just take out this delay? It'll become Galaxy-like smooth..everybody wants that. No one cares really about their featured 'delay'
I'd rather my phone not pick up a touch that I didn't want it to than have to deliberately touch something twice. Just my 2¢
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hope some dev work on it a fix it..
My sister has an iPhone 5 and I had an S2 and personally I haven't noticed any difference between them now that I'm on 4.3.
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Nitpicking a near perfecting device won't get you any closer to "winning"
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I hadn't noticed this, and tested your 2-3mm claim on a stock, rooted 4.3 using the stock launcher with a widget on the homescreen... I still don't notice it! While there is a certain 'delay', 2-3mm seems vastly overstated. Having used galaxy s4, HTC one and iPhone 5 I see little discernible difference, and I'd be very surprised if they all do not feature some kind of touch recognition delay.
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I'd rather my phone not pick up a touch that I didn't want it to than have to deliberately touch something twice. Just my 2¢
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+1. I haven't updated yet, but if this resolves the issue of accidentally selecting an item rather than swiping, then I am 100% all for it.
I never understood those problems people had with touch on the Nexus 4 apart from the pinch delay. Thats the only difference I notice from my brothers S3
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Nexus 4 feels just fine in my opinion. Don't notice any delays.
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i'm wondering there are so many top dev working on this device but no one can't (or don't want) solve toch and pinch zoom problem..
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i'm wondering there are so many top dev working on this device but no one can't (or don't want) solve toch and pinch zoom problem..
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I loaded CM 10.2 and don't see any issues so far.
It's difficult to notice any delay when you're used to something that has it. For example, my friend's TV has a lot of TV lag when used for gaming. If I hit A for jump in the game, I will have to wait about 100ms for it to show up on the screen. My TV, however, does not have lag as bad as this. Mines is about 30ms so for FPSs it is much more responsive. He doesn't notice this because his screen is already slow but when I play on his TV I notice a substantial amount of lag. When he plays on my TV he doesn't notice that it is very much faster. This is because it is harder to notice that something is slow when you're used to it.
This is a similar to phone responsiveness. My ipod touch 4th gen (which I had before my Galaxy s2 and NEX4) probably has a very slow processor but the software/hardware is optimized so there is no touch lag. Even with my nexus 4's beast quadcore processor, the touch performance is still better on my two year old ipod. I notice this because I have come from a faster device and I can notice the lag. You guys who haven't gotten used to more responsive devices may not notice the difference, but I and many others do. It's not just us being nitpicky, touch response if a very integral part of a TOUCH screen. I find myself having more difficulty typing on my nexus 4 because the sensitivity is just not high enough. I can type at a much faster pace on my ipod touch because the touch sensitivity is a lot better. In this regard, sensitivity makes a substantial difference in the user experience. I have had many mistaps and retaps on my nexus 4 when my taps did not register properly and I had to hit the same button over and over again. Swipes and other things are also slower than on my itouch.
If you play fruit ninja, for example, when you drag your finger on the screen you can see the cutting line trail behind on the nexus 4. On my itouch, however, the cutting line remains right below my finger and I cannot see the tip. This is the 2-3mm the OP is talking about.
just thought I'd share my opinion.
I sure hope it wont! Because I feel the touch responsiveness and accuracy on any 4/4s/5 iphone device is really through the floor.
Dont really feel any difference on the s3 compared to the new nexus 4 though.
I've noticed this delay too. Is there a kernel that allows you to adjust touch sensitivity for 4.3?
i've no problem with this delay.. my issue is pinch zoom problem.. i have to pinch at least 2 times to zoom enough..
it's software issue.. 'cause Mozzila Firefox doesn't have this problem..
It's not a "problem" or something that can be easily "noticed". The thing is, it's there. I can just feel that the Galaxy Note 2/S3/S4's swiping between home screens is instantaneous with the finger, just as the iPhone's is. The Nexus 4, is right up there, but I can see just that initial delay. It doesn't seem like the touchscreen doesn't recognize your finger, but more of a software "feature" where it won't recognize it on purpose.
Disclaimer: I'm not here to troll. I genuinely love this phone and I just want to see if anyone else is experiencing what I am.
Now that that's out of the way:
I have noticed performance degradation in my Note 3 over the last few days. My GS4 ran like crap pretty much all the time and I finally gave up and sold it. I had no intention of buying the Note 3 because I figured Touchwiz was to blame and it would pretty much run the same. Playing with one in Best Buy, I came to the conclusion that I was wrong and purchased one. It was snappy at first, for the most part. Very few delays or lag.
Lately, I have noticed that things like launching Messaging, the Gallery (which has always been a bad performer on Touchwiz), the camera and the Swiftkey keyboard have been slow, as well as moving between them (i.e. tapping on the last picture in the camera results in a long load time).
When it got really bad today, I checked and noticed that I had very little available RAM (~120 mb). I cleared the RAM and it is running better now. However, comparing it to the performance of my Moto X, which never degrades and never has to have the RAM cleared, I'm perplexed as to why I have to do this on a Snapdragon 800 with 3 GB of RAM.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I still really like the phone and have turned off most of the Touchwiz features I don't use. I'm also using Nova launcher, rather than Touchwiz.
I noticed the same using nova launcher but couldn't see it just being nova. I deleted some recently installed apps and ditched nova for testing purposes and ask was well again just my .02
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I too have noticed that things have started to lag a bit, delay in opening certain apps. I turned off all air gesture and also turned off some apps. I got my Note 1week ago today and I was amazed by this phone. Coming from the OG Note it was a big step up. I am taking mine back in to exchange it on Monday due to the phone freezing numerous times and rapid battery drain
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Tell us if the Note 4 is all you thought it would be?
Like I said before, these are all from within a year lol.... I switched from an iphone last November 2013
First was a Xperia Z1 (battery life was eh), Galaxy S4, HTC One M7, Galaxy S5 (only thing I miss is water resistance), LG G3 (love this phone but screen was not that great and very dim in the daytime) and now to my love of my life note 4! BEAUTIFUL! only thing I don't like is no option for soft keys (menu key has LAG and I don't like the Back button on the right side.
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Tell us if the Note 4 is all you thought it would be?
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Note 3 and the experience is horrible. My 4g lte isnt working but that's not for everyone's note 4 just some
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Galaxy S4. Experience has been underwhelming. Wonky GPS (loses the signal if phone is resting on my leg in the car), some apps occasionally think there is no wifi connection when there is (and being used by other apps). Aesthetically, it's a bit boxy for my taste. ART runtime isn't ready for actual use (causes the system to "update" 66 apps when I boot, extending boot time to about 5 mins, every time).
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I came from a Galaxy S3 and so far I'm really loving my new device. I was really close to getting the S5 but a few days/weeks after the S5 announcement, I started to read about the Note 4. It was a loooong wait but well worth it. The screen is amazing and just the size alone will make surfing the web and watching videos a lot more enjoyable.
I've played with the S-Pen and really enjoy it, which brings me to my question. I can't seem to figure out how to use the s-pen like a mouse when selecting text. I know there is an slightly different method using Air Command for this type of thing but I'm looking for the mouse-like text selecting. I thought that all I had to do was hold the button on the s-pen then drag and slide to select but it's not working for me. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
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I came from a Galaxy S3 and so far I'm really loving my new device. I was really close to getting the S5 but a few days/weeks after the S5 announcement, I started to read about the Note 4. It was a loooong wait but well worth it. The screen is amazing and just the size alone will make surfing the web and watching videos a lot more enjoyable.
I've played with the S-Pen and really enjoy it, which brings me to my question. I can't seem to figure out how to use the s-pen like a mouse when selecting text. I know there is an slightly different method using Air Command for this type of thing but I'm looking for the mouse-like text selecting. I thought that all I had to do was hold the button on the s-pen then drag and slide to select but it's not working for me. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
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Just hold the button on the S-Pen and hover over the text and you'll see a line that will allow you to select the text.
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Note 3 and the experience is horrible. My 4g lte isnt working but that's not for everyone's note 4 just some
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I'm sorry to hear that but i came from a note 2 and on this note 4 i have amazing reception. I have lte almost everywhere i go now whereas before i had 4g
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Just hold the button on the S-Pen and hover over the text and you'll see a line that will allow you to select the text.
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Thanks, that was the piece I was missing....the slight hover at the beginning before dragging. :highfive:
Did anyone come from a Apple product or at least tried the iPhone 6 Plus?
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Did anyone come from a Apple product or at least tried the iPhone 6 Plus?
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My wife bought a 6+ when it was released. I've used it some.
From the original Galaxy ---through--> Galaxy S4 -> Note...skipped the S5 because I had the Note II -> Note III -> Now .....NOTE 4
Extremely happy with it. Can't gripe about much but here are some things I really wish they kept on or added*:
USB 3.0
Tempreture Sensor
Humidity Sensor
Speaker on the bottom and not on the back like it is now on the Note 4
4GB of RAM*
Here are the things I'm very grateful for:
The best screen EVER to date
Faster CPU
Faster GPU
METAL!
Better Camera/Sensor
Slightly bigger battery
Relocation of the SIM and microSD slot! No longer have to remove battery like you did on the Note 3
Redesigned rear cover (MUCH better, no more fake stitching)
Curved 2.5D screen
Heart Rate/O2 Sensor
UV Sensor....ehhh...either way pretty cool, but I'd rather have a TEMP and HUMIDITY sensor instead
METAL!
Did I say METAL?!
Finally what we've all been waiting for. A phone that feels like a million bucks in your hand.
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My wife bought a 6+ when it was released. I've used it some.
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Did you like or hate it?
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Did you like or hate it?
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I didn't hate it. I'm not an iPhone guy, but my wife loves it. She hated her Android phones, so she's happy. That's good for me.
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I didn't hate it. I'm not an iPhone guy, but my wife loves it. She hated her Android phones, so she's happy. That's good for me.
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I agree with you on that. My wife loves her iPhone as well.
The latest device I came from is the LG G3. Before that from last year, I went through the Xperia Z, HTC One M7, LG G2, Xperia Z1, before settling on Nexus 5.
I love the Note so far, first note I've tried. One thing I don't like is the lag from pressing the recents button, but I can live with it. Also not fond of the gap on the right side as I constantly have to blow the dust out, but again I can live with it. All in all best phone I've used so far and touchwiz is not as bad as it was before.
One thing though, I do like to use the pen to write my texts or Web addresses sometimes, and it's quite finicky in terms of recognizing what I type out. Sometimes I have to erase and retry several times which is annoying.
After learning about the official specs for the Nexus 9, I decided to get the Tab S 10.5.
The Nexus 9 turned out to be a huge disappointment, aside from the Tegra K1 chip and stock Android. Let's see:
- smaller screen size
- lower resolution
- slightly lower ppi
- smaller battery
- higher price tag (for a Nexus device)
- only 2 GB of RAM
- thicker bzels
- no stereo front speakers
- thicker and only a few grams lighter, despite being a whole lot smaller
I'm aware that I'm kind of comparing apples to oranges, as they're different screen sizes, but they're *my* choices.
I'm seriously disappointed with Google for botching the Nexus 9. It could've been awesome... The Nexus 6, however, is one damn nice phone.
the screen of Tab S kills the Nexus 9.
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the screen of Tab S kills the Nexus 9.
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That's another reason the Tab S is better than Nexus 9.
Nexus devices never had AMOLED displays. The Nexus 6 will be the first.
rodrigorajao said:
That's another reason the Tab S is better than Nexus 9.
Nexus devices never had AMOLED displays. The Nexus 6 will be the first.
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nope the Legend Nexus One had one, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus too, it was from Nexus 4/5 we did not get AMOLED
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After learning about the official specs for the Nexus 9, I decided to get the Tab S 10.5.
The Nexus 9 turned out to be a huge disappointment, aside from the Tegra K1 chip and stock Android. Let's see:
- smaller screen size
- lower resolution
- slightly lower ppi
- smaller battery
- higher price tag (for a Nexus device)
- only 2 GB of RAM
- thicker bzels
- no stereo front speakers
- thicker and only a few grams lighter, despite being a whole lot smaller
I'm aware that I'm kind of comparing apples to oranges, as they're different screen sizes, but they're *my* choices.
I'm seriously disappointed with Google for botching the Nexus 9. It could've been awesome... The Nexus 6, however, is one damn nice phone.
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Yup, been waiting all year for the announcement and just getting more and more disappointed as the rumours trickled out. You don't mention what was the real deal-breaker for me: the 4:3 aspect ratio . Have they never tried to watch a movie on an iPad ffs?
Picked up my new Tab S 10.5 on Thursday to find a great offer just started (here in the UK anyway). Warranty extended to 3 years, £50 of Play Store credit and a free 32GB micro-SD card thrown in!
This is the first Samsung device I have owned. I was willing to give Touchwiz a try but I'm afraid it only lasted a day. I had been a bit worried about all the talk of lag around here. I can confirm it is there but very, very slight and as far as I can see is completely confined to the stock launcher and its widgets.
I now have Nova laid out the way I like it with 3 home screens full of scrolling APW widgets for news, Twitter, agenda etc as well as Google Now stuff and I can tell you everything behaves beautifully and as smooth as butter. The underlying Android menus which Samsung have fiddled with always were very smooth even with TW launcher.
This is one beautiful piece of kit and my only regret is having hung on so long for news of the Nexus.
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I had been a bit worried about all the talk of lag around here. I can confirm it is there but very, very slight and as far as I can see is completely confined to the stock launcher and its widgets.
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Rooting + TiBu Freeze of Samsung bloat apps = lag free experience.
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Rooting + TiBu Freeze of Samsung bloat apps = lag free experience.
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As I said replacing TW's launcher with Nova Launcher was enough to get rid of all signs of lag for me . It would be nice to get rid of more of the Samsung bloatware just on principle but unfortunately some of us are too reliant these days on root-detecting apps which makes rooting more trouble than it's worth.
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As I said replacing TW's launcher with Nova Launcher was enough to get rid of all signs of lag for me . It would be nice to get rid of more of the Samsung bloatware just on principle but unfortunately some of us are too reliant these days on root-detecting apps which makes rooting more trouble than it's worth.
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Yes, Nova Launcher helps considerably. I've been running it on all my devices since its first beta. Good stuff.
was waiting for nexus 9
but now i hate it is very disappointment
i really hope lg make great tab like my lg g pro 2 it is fantastic phone no lag at all very very fast love the software
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Rooting + TiBu Freeze of Samsung bloat apps = lag free experience.
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Indeeed, the Tab S has great hardware, but terrible software. My 16GB RAM has over 4GB of "system files" out of the box. This is totally unacceptable in my book.
I'll root this sucker and uninstall the crap as soon as my return period is up.
nexus 9 has stereo front facing speakers
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nexus 9 has stereo front facing speakers
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Yep, and if they are anything like the M8's speakers, they will blow away the Tab S's. Having said that I still think the Tab S is an overall better device. The worst thing about the Nexus 9: it looks like an ipad.
The worst thing about the nexus 9 is the smaller screen and higher price tag.
I bought one the other day instead of getting the iPad Air 2. So far so good. Only thing I need to get used to is holding in landscape all the time. I never turn my iPads to landscape.
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As I said replacing TW's launcher with Nova Launcher was enough to get rid of all signs of lag for me . It would be nice to get rid of more of the Samsung bloatware just on principle but unfortunately some of us are too reliant these days on root-detecting apps which makes rooting more trouble than it's worth.
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Same here. Nova makes a huge difference. Rooting for me is a no go on this device as well for the same reason.
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Same here. Nova makes a huge difference. Rooting for me is a no go on this device as well for the same reason.
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Sad though that a manufacturer as large as Samsung can't get its own software to work smoothly on its own flagship device when a little outfit like Nova can get their stuff optimized just fine
I've come from the Galaxy note 10.1 2012 edition which was also a great tablet but this Galaxy S is just a stuipdly good tablet and you can pick up some recon bargains from Argos now too, got mine for £329 - it came brand new in opened box, looks like it had been opened and then just returned, still had plastic cover and all cables were still bagged etc.
Screen is simply amazing in the dark, still get inky blacks in pitch black, however there is a greeny colour cast orsomething to it in daylight when the birghtness is turned down and the headphone volume could be about 30% louder (system\etc default volme tweaks dont work for me for some reason).
I just bought a 10.5 last night and I couldn't be happier. The screen is amazing! Haven't experienced any lag but I put nova launcher on it rite away since I always use it on my phones. Loving it so far
I think Tab S is a good choice.. I have one question though.
How to hold the Tab S in protrait mode as I keep pressing the menu or back key.. Please help.
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I think Tab S is a good choice.. I have one question though.
How to hold the Tab S in protrait mode as I keep pressing the menu or back key.. Please help.
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Hold it lower or use one hand - it's light enough ! This is my first Samsung and I need to get used to the hardware buttons - especially since they decided to put Back and Recent the other way round to normal Android.
They say it takes 30 days for our brain to form new habits. Oh well, only 3 weeks to go now .
I bought the Edge two months ago. Gave it a spin, got back from a canoe trip on the Buffalo River and exchanged it for the Active on the day the Active dropped.
So now I've had a month with each device.
Gotta say, as sexy as the Edge is... it's just too delicate. I felt like I might crack the screen if I stared at it hard enough.
The "Edge" features were cool but not so killer that I had to have them, kinda kitchy at best.
The Edge is gorgeous so putting it into a case was a crime.
Performance, camera, all that... awesome.
Memory leak issue caused the phone to be laggy but everyone's had that issue.
Rooting and Greenifying it took care of that.
Additionally, holding the Edge sans case in my hand, the edges are perceived as "sharp", just couldn't get used to the thin-ness (I know, weird).
The Active is light but solid in the hand.
The case (dark blue camo) has grown on me.
Having had the previous versions of the Galaxy, the buttons are fine and I do appreciate the "Active" button for short and long press access to key apps. Although, sometimes it triggers while in my pocket and starts my music app.
Performance is rock solid, quick and and since the OF3 update last week, not having the memory issues like before. I don't think this is completely resolved but it does seem much more responsive and not lagging after a few days of use.
It's water-resistant and that comes in real handy - I've now used it when I'm running (covered in sweat), trout fishing (slimy hands) or canoeing (splashed with water while taking photos!) without any concerns or issues.
Camera is so awesome, fast and responsive unlike any of the Galaxy S predecessors.
And the selfie cam's higher resolution is appreciated.
I do have the issue with the case "clicking" on the edges.
Now, if we can just get root, this will be as perfect a phone as you can get.
My two cents. Anyone else tried them both?
Package disabler is a pretty good compromise for not having root. Allows you to disable pretty much anything, no root required.AoN
I have tried both. And I agree the s6 edge is so sexy (especially in platinum) I do miss the fingerprint reader and the bottom facing speaker. BUT IMO the active is so much better. I got the all black version (the other colors were a bit too much for me even after owning the platinum s6 edge lol) the active feels so sturdy in the hand and isn't too bad looking. I love love love the water resistance, I've already taken a shower with it lol. I've still got the edge but found out it was financed so I'm working on getting my money back now.
Package Disabler from OSPolice - waaaay cool my friend, thank you for suggesting.
The few items I manually deleted plus the latest update and this big battery is giving me fantastic battery life.
I just ran Package Disabler and selected "all bloatware" and disabled 87 apps. Then I re-enableed the four or five apps I actually use.
Looking forward to even better results.
Thanks!
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I have the blue came. The dark color is sharp and you cannot really see the camo until you hold it up close.
Listening to podcasts in a steamy shower toasted my first galaxy III. This Active handles it with no problem.
And I've dropped this thing a half do, enjoy times where I'm sure an earlier version or an uncased Edge would have show damage.
I'm officially an Active fan!
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Just do not disable the Samsung account manager.
I see a Samsung Account. Is that the one? What does it do? I'm not using the Samsung account, I don't think. I do have s-health on so maybe I need that. Appreciate your input!
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Yes that's the one, it allows access to all the Samsung content (theme store, Samsung app store). If you disable it, the only way to reactivate it is to factory reset the phone.
Package disabler is the shiz for unrooted devices!!
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Anyone gotta link to download package disabler???
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Anyone gotta link to download package disabler???
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Google play store. It's a dollar fifty five for the paid version. AoN
Am I crazy or did it get pulled from the play store? I can't seem to find it, even using the above link.
Not sure, searching doesn't bring it up, but it's still listed (and installable) under my apps. AoN
The free version seems to be gone. But the link above still works. (At least for me.)
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The free version seems to be gone. But the link above still works. (At least for me.)
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It doesnt work for me either...
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It doesnt work for me either...
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Huh. Maybe it did get pulled then.
I emailed the developers OSPolice and got a reply saying that the app will be available for purchase next week in the Play store. :good:
Package disabler still wouldn't disable my arch nemesis, att address book. Anyone else figure out how to kill that garbage?
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Package disabler still wouldn't disable my arch nemesis, att address book. Anyone else figure out how to kill that garbage?
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As far as I can see disabling Sync (This has the same icon than the AT&T Address Book) has stopped the annoying AT&T Address Book windows while opening the Contacts App.