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Looking forward to getting myself the US version of the Note 9. I have heard many conflicting stories about the battery life of the Snapdragon versions. Some people claim it is better than the Exynos', others say it's worse and finally a few have said there is no difference between the two. Some time has passed and both versions have had software updates released, so I figured it would be a good time to chime in. So for those in the know, please share your experiences when it comes to SOT and standby time of the US version of Note 9 and how you guys think it compares to the the Exynos versions.
Many thanks!
Something along these lines
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/battery-life-thread-t3830900
I think most will have seen the early benchmarks showing the Snapdragon considerably outperforms the Exnyos version of the device in terms of speed and battery life.
My question is, is this still the case? Or have they managed to close the gap between them?
I don't really game very much so my main concerns to be honest are battery life, scrolling smoothness, overall performance more than high FPS in games.
many thanks ?
I think they will not differ much in normal usage and the exynos s10 is still very smooth with me till today specially while using FHD resolution
I also don't game at all frankly.
Mohamad Gahed said:
I think they will not differ much in normal usage and the exynos s10 is still very smooth with me till today specially while using FHD resolution
I also don't game at all frankly.
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That's good to hear. I don't want to upset anyone with the Exnyos variant, it's just frustrating that for basically the same price the USA gets the snap dragon and the rest of us get a solution which seems to be a little worse in every way. I wouldn't mind so much if it had better battery life or better performance in some other area.
Maybe I should stop thinking that way and just remember that it's still a strong performer.
retro83 said:
That's good to hear. I don't want to upset anyone with the Exnyos variant, it's just frustrating that for basically the same price the USA gets the snap dragon and the rest of us get a solution which seems to be a little worse in every way. I wouldn't mind so much if it had better battery life or better performance in some other area.
Maybe I should stop thinking that way and just remember that it's still a strong performer.
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back in the note 4 days, the exnyos version was better in terms of battery life and cpu performance, but was worse in gpu.
No one is locked in to a certain device. You have the option to purchase the Snapdragon Hong Kong variant on Ebay which has a number of advantages over the US Snapdragon. The bootloader can be unlocked, dual SIM's, less bloatware and more telco frequency options. You lose the warranty, which I've never needed, since Samsung's quality issues are almost non existent. The Exynos variants may seem to have similar performance but it doesn't stack up to the Snapdragon SoC.
In my opinion I wouldn't worry too much. I came from a snapdragon 845 S9+ to an Exynos S10. With S9+ I could run every app and game fluently. No lag at all in android "Samsung experience". I ran Antutu benchmark on both phones and Exynos S10 have higher points than S9+ (CPU and GPU)
So, does it really matters that S855 is better than new Exynos when S845 could do anything and new Exynos is better than that?
We are at a point where numbers are getting higher but it really doesn't matter in real life. And Exynos have something that snapdragon doesn't and it is better developer's support (ROMS, mods, root, custom recovery, etc). So, Exynos is a win for me.
PD: S9+ is an excellent phone. I switched to S10 because my father wanted the S9+. Then I got S10 in a good sale wich is an excellent phone too: more ram, 64 vs 128 gb storage, little better CPU/GPU, little better more tunned camera, extra wide camera, more screen body relation, almost the same battery in a smaller phone, single SIM vs double SIM card (depends on your version) and it was cheaper for me because I got it in a good deal.
Enjoy you Exynos S10 and don't worry about the snapdragon version. It is an superb phone.
Exynos FTW!!
exynos speed takes a beating
I know I had the exynos s10+ sold it for the TGY version
tmobile speed has been steller
I missed the exynos roms and support but SD model is getting there too
plus we haave a fully working Gcam bam lol
I've been looking into getting the s21 from HK since it has Snapdragon which from what I've seen in most YouTube videos CPU is pretty much the "same" and gpu is way better on SD than exynos, I don't game a lot but I would just prefer the better version for longevity, which the exynos doesn't seem like (worse gpu than on s865) does the HK version usually get any development? (Root, ROMs)?
The gap is much smaller this year, from what I've seen some of the discrepancies in YouTube tests are more around optimisation (although the Adreno is better than the Mali).
Traditionally I understand it's very difficult, if not impossible to root SDs?
Battery life seems to be very close, Snapdragon 888 vs Exynos 2100: S21 sustained performance and battery life - YouTube has the exynos winning in endurance, but obviously this is under heavy load and the exynos seems to glitch at one point.
I would stick to the local version if you want warranty and support, but it's personal preference!
xAD3r1ty said:
I've been looking into getting the s21 from HK since it has Snapdragon which from what I've seen in most YouTube videos CPU is pretty much the "same" and gpu is way better on SD than exynos, I don't game a lot but I would just prefer the better version for longevity, which the exynos doesn't seem like (worse gpu than on s865) does the HK version usually get any development? (Root, ROMs)?
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I have HK Snapdragon 865 in my Galaxy S20 Ultra, that was one of the best decisions I took last year because the same phone with Exynos 990 was a disaster!
This time there is no better phone than others between Exynos 2100 and Snapdragon 888, it's minimal, so the benefit you may get from HK Snapdragon 888 model will not be that much, especially you've mentioned that you don't play games so why you want to buy HK model?
I may buy S21 Ultra with Exynos2100 this year if my S20 Ultra get broken or bad, here in Sweden, I get 2 years of warranty and the phone supports all 3G/4G/5G bands and net aggregation which gives me more solid performance including eSIM ability, etc..
Also I believe Exynos 2100 gives you slightly better battery life than the Snapdragon 888 as I have seen in many tests in YouTube and reviews.
Hi, just ordered S10 ultra with exynos and now saw some comparison.bi thought it would just be speed difference but it seems exynos makes images worse. Had this been "patched" during the year or is the exynos image quality much worse? I bought in Sweden so no option for snapdragon
This is S21 thread, not S10
Sorry title was correct but not the post. I am talking about S21 ultra
pixellegolas said:
Sorry title was correct but not the post. I am talking about S21 ultra
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the only way to know if there is a difference would be to have the two phones in hand and to do your own tests, on the internet they sometimes found the SD sometimes the EX in front of nothing really clear
pixellegolas said:
Hi, just ordered S10 ultra with exynos and now saw some comparison.bi thought it would just be speed difference but it seems exynos makes images worse. Had this been "patched" during the year or is the exynos image quality much worse? I bought in Sweden so no option for snapdragon
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Exynos 2100 variant is not much worse, nor is it much better than its SD888 counterpart this year (unlike in previous iterations)
Breaking from tradition, this year they're pretty comparable, especially after all the updates and optimisation. Stick to Android 11 initially otherwise your opinion of the phone will tank really quickly.
However, the SD888 version does have an edge in gaming. If that is super, super important to you, it may be an issue. But otherwise, for day to day usage both are practically the same phone.
I think I might be looking at to many comparison videos right now one showed me closeup images of both and it looked like totally different phones. One was much more smudgy. I am hoping that we one day can get that warmer look at iphone produces on selfies, it just tints the images to a more pleasing yellow/red
Hopefully getting phone tomorrow for testing. I have a S9+ right now
Hi, the Exynos is definetly worse in image and video quality. The noise processing is very aggressive and the images are indeed smudgy. Go for the snapdragon without hesitation. Also, I am on the Android 12 update on my Exynos and the issue is still there. You can see a proper comparison here:
pixellegolas said:
Hi, just ordered S10 ultra with exynos and now saw some comparison.bi thought it would just be speed difference but it seems exynos makes images worse. Had this been "patched" during the year or is the exynos image quality much worse? I bought in Sweden so no option for snapdragon
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You're raising your concerns a bit late since you've already ordered the exynos device, right? Just because you're in Sweden it doesn't preclude you from buying the snapdragon variant, most retailers ship worldwide. I concure with @enigmaamit's advice, hold off on updating to Android 12, it's a hot mess. The only features you might miss are the MicroSD and 3.5 Jack.Enjoy your new phone, it's a big improvement over the S9+.
Main priority is battery life. Budget is not the issue. Kinda inclined towards s21u design too. But confused about getting the newer thing.
Any thoughts?
(S pen matters little to none)
Snapdragon
Exynos has had a history of being worse than Snapdragon, especially battery life. Recently there has been news of some S22 Ultra Exynos devices having display issues. I would recommend getting the Snapdragon variant.
S22 Ultra Snapdragon
redpoint_ said:
Exynos has had a history of being worse than Snapdragon, especially battery life. Recently there has been news of some S22 Ultra Exynos devices having display issues. I would recommend getting the Snapdragon variant.
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Yea. Read that about 2200 exynos. But i am asking about exynos 2100 with snapdragon 8gen 1. I guess s21u is more efficient. Aint it the case?
rob!n said:
Yea. Read that about 2200 exynos. But i am asking about exynos 2100 with snapdragon 8gen 1. I guess s21u is more efficient. Aint it the case?
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Overoll i think Snapdragon is better but that new Snapdragon 8 gen 1 getting really hot in gaming or heavy camera use.
Here is one thread about it.
S22 Ultra gets VERY HOT (120°F during gaming)
Well been using my 22 Ultra for a few days now. Everything seems pretty solid, performance is good, cameras are fine. Mine does have 12gb of RAM and is the Snapdragon variant. But I noticed during gaming for even 10-15 minutes on stuff like Real...
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Battery life was something you listed as important. The S22U is getting panned for it's bad battery life.
Snapdragon S22U i would buy in a heartbeat if Samsung offered it in the UK
I get barely over 500k on Antutu ... S22U snapdragon is close to 900k-1m
Plus the ISP is better on SD
Battery life is better
There's literally NO benefit in any catagory for Samsung in which the Exynos wins
It's a terminally failed experiment
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Battery life was something you listed as important. The S22U is getting panned for it's bad battery life.
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Exactly. And s21 exynos has better battery life than s22u snapdragon. (Source. YouTube videos)
But Snapdragon models has better idle battery performance than Exynos.
Exynos if you want to root your phone. SnapDragon for better performance.
Dayuser said:
But Snapdragon models has better idle battery performance than Exynos.
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Agreed. Its not just about exynos and snapdragon. Its also about s21u or s22u.
Its just s21u was came with exynos in my region and s22u with snapdragon.
Aaron78 said:
Exynos if you want to root your phone. SnapDragon for better performance.
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If you could shed some more light about what you said. (I am very much comfortable with rooting and custom roms)
highlightshadow said:
Snapdragon S22U i would buy in a heartbeat if Samsung offered it in the UK
I get barely over 500k on Antutu ... S22U snapdragon is close to 900k-1m
Plus the ISP is better on SD
Battery life is better
There's literally NO benefit in any catagory for Samsung in which the Exynos wins
It's a terminally failed experiment
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I feel for you. S22u exynos is worse even from s21u exynos. And obviously bad from its snapdragon counterpart. Gladly my region switched from exynos to snapdragon with 21 to 22 this year
It's just so disrespectful to customers.... 1 product, 2 variants, both same price but with year-on-year proving inferiority in ISP, GPU and battery for Exynos
I'm done with Samsung, gonna get Oppo i reckon.
I've been considering a fruit branded phone for a few months, going to wait and see what the fruit phone 14 looks like.
highlightshadow said:
It's just so disrespectful to customers.... 1 product, 2 variants, both same price but with year-on-year proving inferiority in ISP, GPU and battery for Exynos
I'm done with Samsung, gonna get Oppo i reckon.
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So, is Oppo any better? As long as you have variety in Android, it will be difficult to settle down on a single brand/ model. Well, that's both the pro and con of Android. If you want consistent performance, battery life, look, and can live with a pre-historic design as well as with a 2-year-old tech, then Apple is the only way forward.
amirage said:
So, is Oppo any better? As long as you have variety in Android, it will be difficult to settle down on a single brand/ model. Well, that's both the pro and con of Android. If you want consistent performance, battery life, look, and can live with a pre-historic design as well as with a 2-year-old tech, then Apple is the only way forward.
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I really want an S22 ultra --- i like everything about it's positives but the negatives at the moment are just too overwhelming to justify spending almost £1300 on a device that's again worse than it's sibling.
My S21U has become really bad this past couple months since the Android 12 upgrade... even did a factory reset and setup the phone again clean (pain to have to do) but it's no better.
My antutu scores are far worse than even another Exynos 2100 phone (i get around 550000, others get anywhere from 600000-750000). Similar story on most benchmarks, i get significantly down scores in every aspect, i juyst have a bad bin chip but since it's not faulty Samsung wouldn't touch it.
Games stutter really bad, i have to turn down settings on most games that run flawlessly on my wife's OnePlus 9Pro
I agree that Android is what it is -- but I'm done with Exynos ... until they give us the choice of SOC in UK i'm not giving them more money.
I had an S21 Ultra Exynos when it came out and it lasted about 2/3 months before i got so frustrated with it.
I have now (as of last week) purchased a Snapdragon version from ebay and the difference is unreal !