Huawei P9 DNG files quality - Huawei P9 Questions & Answers

I have a very bad experience with the raw files produced by P9 camera. I am able to import the files to Adobe Lightroom 6.0 and develop it but when I compare it with the jpg from the phone the DNG is very bad - colours and overall quality. I also tried some online converter with smilar results. Any ideas what the problem might be?

Goldak said:
I have a very bad experience with the raw files produced by P9 camera. I am able to import the files to Adobe Lightroom 6.0 and develop it but when I compare it with the jpg from the phone the DNG is very bad - colours and overall quality. I also tried some online converter with smilar results. Any ideas what the problem might be?
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DNG raw files usually have more noise, bad exposure and slightly altered colours as no post processing has been done on it. I use Snapseed for editing these.

I have a Fuji aps-c camera and I shoot to raw sometimes so I know what to expect from raw files. This is different... I'll provide some example when I have a chance...

Regarding the Snapseed, does it provide noise reduction functionality? I tried to develop a DNG file in Snapseed but did not find this....

Goldak said:
Regarding the Snapseed, does it provide noise reduction functionality? I tried to develop a DNG file in Snapseed but did not find this....
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DNG edit via snapseep auto wwhen you open

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Is it possible to get .RAW images from Kaiser camera?

Is it possible to get .RAW images from Kaiser camera? Just a bit curious.
i'd say no
Since I am into photograghy I can anser this a litlle Many photo software programs have problems with Raw because Sony Raw, Canon raw and Nikon raw etc are all different so it's more the software applications that handle this. if you find one you want to handle something that displayed on your camera type. Just edit your software and save it in jpg format and your good to go..
Google this question again, and still only this thread...

[GUIDE] [ROOT] Enable RAW capture in the stock EMUI camera app

If this is common knowledge, I apologize for the redundancy of this post, however I doubt it, since I searched for a way to do this for quite a bit of time, until I finally found a way.
As you probably know, if you're into photography, the P9 Lite supports Camera 2 API which allows for the capture of RAW pictures in .dng format.
This is especially useful for editing, as RAW images contain lots more information, especially in the shadows and highlights.
While there are several 3rd party camera apps that allow RAW capture, having tried most of them, none even comes close to the stock camera app. They're either clunky to use, or they're ugly as sin (I'm looking at you Open Camera, which is both).
To enable this feature on the P9 Lite is actually very simple, but it DOES require ROOT.
This is how to do it:
1. Ensure your device is rooted
2. Use a root file explorer and navigate to /system/emui/lite/prop/local.prop and open the file as text.
3. Change the value of ro.build.hw_emui_lite.enable from true to false
4. Save the file
5. Reboot the device
6. Open the stock Camera app
7. Enable Pro Photo mode
8. Go to settings and enable RAW.
Happy shooting, happy editing.
Already had that line disabled for other reasons. Didn't know it also makes shooting in RAW possible. Thanks!
I had it disabled for the transparent notification panel, bit yeah...I needed this so much!
Thanks!
ZeusftW97 said:
I had it disabled for the transparent notification panel, bit yeah...I needed this so much!
Thanks!
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Haha, to each his own.
Personally, I dislike the transparent notification panel. I would like to keep it solid black and still have RAW, but hey... I'll take what I can get, and RAW capture is more important.
Cool, https://www.xda-developers.com/guide-enables-raw-capture-in-the-stock-huawei-p9-lite-camera/
Nice, also seems to work for the (Huawei) Honor 6X. Thanks.
My joy at this discovery was short-lived, but then again, isn't that the very nature of joy?
Poetry aside, here's what's wrong.
Shooting RAW, the camera takes one compressed .jpeg and one RAW .dng. However, no matter the shooting conditions, the RAW .dng always comes out blurry and very soft.
I used a tripod, very very fast shutter speeds, in broad daylight and the .dngs ALWAYS come out unfocused.
Anyone able to chime in an maybe offer some insight?
zgomot said:
My joy at this discovery was short-lived, but then again, isn't that the very nature of joy?
Poetry aside, here's what's wrong.
Shooting RAW, the camera takes one compressed .jpeg and one RAW .dng. However, no matter the shooting conditions, the RAW .dng always comes out blurry and very soft.
I used a tripod, very very fast shutter speeds, in broad daylight and the .dngs ALWAYS come out unfocused.
Anyone able to chime in an maybe offer some insight?
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It seems like the default gallery app doesn't render the RAW files properly. View them in another gallery app with RAW support or import them to your prefered photoeditor and they look fine
Mara-X said:
It seems like the default gallery app doesn't render the RAW files properly. View them in another gallery app with RAW support or import them to your prefered photoeditor and they look fine
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You're right.
Imported into Lightroom, the .dng is actually quite a bit sharper than the .jpeg.
Thanks muchly!
Thanks, im wating for this a long time
hello
gallery app of p9 can read .dng picture
it works well in our p9 lite
simo255 said:
hello
gallery app of p9 can read .dng picture
it works well in our p9 lite
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It can read them, but not properly. It shows them really blurry, like they're not focused.
Can you recommend me good raw viewer if you use one?
ZeusftW97 said:
Can you recommend me good raw viewer if you use one?
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I don't use any. I open the files in either Snapseed on my phone, or Lightroom on my PC and edit.
zgomot said:
I don't use any. I open the files in either Snapseed on my phone, or Lightroom on my PC and edit.
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Ok, thanks!
Last time when I tried to open raw photos in snapseed it didnt work, and yeah...that was after they added the support for editing raw photos, but I tried now and it works!?
ZeusftW97 said:
Ok, thanks!
Last time when I tried to open raw photos in snapseed it didnt work, and yeah...that was after they added the support for editing raw photos, but I tried now and it works!
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probably user error
Thanks, is there anyway to disable jpeg format?, It's very annoying both Jpeg and raw Messing in gallery.
Heuxhog said:
Thanks, is there anyway to disable jpeg format?, It's very annoying both Jpeg and raw Messing in gallery.
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Sadly, I'm afraid not. At least not to my knowledge.
raw without pro mode
Just wanted to ask if it captures raw in all the modes like light painting and night and even in just normal photo mode. does it works only with pro mode ?
Please reply.
Thanks in advance.
roxy2j said:
Just wanted to ask if it captures raw in all the modes like light painting and night and even in just normal photo mode. does it works only with pro mode ?
Please reply.
Thanks in advance.
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No. Only in Pro Photo mode.
But you can do light painting in Pro Photo mode with longer exposures and get the best of both worlds. RAW and light painting.

RAW DNG Support

Just thought I'd share, although it might be common knowledge, that I didn't realise the X720's camera supports RAW output. :laugh:
I'm using 'HD Camera Pro' which is currently free on the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromedia.manual.camera.dslr
This app outputs to DNG and CaptureOne reads these files just like any other DNG (although MacOS Finder struggles). If you wish to process DNG files on the phone you'll need Snapseed.
Images are aways 31.08MB which suggests that they are a true capture of the camera sensor's RAW data.
Images are definitely sharper and contain more detail but saturation needs boosting (buts that's fairly normal for RAW images).
Mateus109 said:
Just thought I'd share, although it might be common knowledge, that I didn't realise the X720's camera supports RAW output. :laugh:
I'm using 'HD Camera Pro' which is currently free on the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromedia.manual.camera.dslr
This app outputs to DNG and CaptureOne reads these files just like any other DNG (although MacOS Finder struggles). If you wish to process DNG files on the phone you'll need Snapseed.
Images are aways 31.08MB which suggests that they are a true capture of the camera sensor's RAW data.
Images are definitely sharper and contain more detail but saturation needs boosting (buts that's fairly normal for RAW images).
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Is there a way to enable longer shutter time (longer than 2s) on this phone?
Seems like you do not know anything about gcam hahahahaha
noel_Fs said:
Seems like you do not know anything about gcam hahahahaha
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Last time I checked, GCam didn't work with EUI.
Mateus109 said:
Last time I checked, GCam didn't work with EUI.
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Not even adding hal2 line to build.prop?
noel_Fs said:
Not even adding hal2 line to build.prop?
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Nope, well at least not using the Magisk module or adding the enabling line manually.

Why does S10+ have such bad jpeg compression ?

I took a ton of pictures, and compared many with S7. S10 is always super clean and smooth, without any noise, every picture size ranges from 1.3mb to 5mb tops. While S7 retains some noise in the blue skys, and can be edited after, the S10 one has macro-blocking from the start, and when I try to edit them a little, all sorts of artifacts start to pop up, like banding, it looks like 256 colored gif sometimes. I feel like when S10 processes and saves jpegs, it applys something like noise reduction 70/100, jpeg quality 60/100, if compared to Lightroom settings.
Samsung compress jpegs too much, the average jpeg out of the phone is about 2-3 mb, while jpeg converted from raw using Lightroom mobile is 6mb!
There is a new custom rom with modded camera app to get 100% jpeg
I noticed that too. Is it possible to change compression ratio on stock rom?
Nop
Unless you install a third party camera app with jpeg compression control.
If you want to use stock camera then take your photos in raw, you can edit them calmly in any raw editor
Thanks for the answer! Can You, please, recommend any third party camera app? Good RAW editor for Android would be helpful information too.
martolk said:
Thanks for the answer! Can You, please, recommend any third party camera app? Good RAW editor for Android would be helpful information too.
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Good RAW editor for Android : Snapseed.
You also got Adobe Lightroom, but it is not for free.

General GCam Raw file editing...

Hi, I've made a few posts comparing the Wichaya GCam to the stock Asus camera. So far I've always preferred the look of the Asus shots compared both to the Wichaya GCam + config xml. However the Asus shots over-sharpen areas of fine detail and over-smooths some highlight areas which looses fine detail.
Unfortunately there is no way to alter the sharpening and processing of the Asus camera. Wichaya's Gcam, however, can be customised using Ram Patcher settings, and I have been playing about with these to try to alter the look of the GCam shots to my taste.
Both the Asus camera and the GCam can save RAW files that can be edited afterwards. It can take a lot of effort to produce a good result, but for an occasional special picture it can be worth the trouble. I did a quick test today to compare an edited Gcam RAW with the normal GCam Jpeg and Asus camera's Jpeg. I've attached the results as screenshots of the editing software I use.
I was pleased with the edited RAW file (it's actually the Adobe DNG version of RAW) and felt that it gives a more accurate impression of the scene than either the Asus or GCam Jegs. So I saved the settings and in the future be able to apply them automatically. Some additional tweaking will always be necessary to Raw files, but the saved settings will make a good start.
Of course it's possible to also edit the Jpegs of both cameras but the results can become grainy - RAW files have a lot more potential to be edited successfully.

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