Oreo and BT Audio Codecs - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Anyone know the bit rate for the Samsung HD codec? Is it similar to Aptx?
I found if you use the Samsung sound personalisation feature with Samsung Level headphones and the Samsung HD codec you can okay quality sound. I am using FLAC files for music source.

Also discovered a problem with BT LDAC. My Note 8 does not recognise that my Sony WH 1000x M2 headphones support LDAC. I have to select LDAC manually!

Not really a problem...just turn it on once after you pair the headphones and that's it.

Also, if you go into Dev options, you can see various settings for bluetooth audio.

In regards to SamsungHD bit-rate, you can Google that one on your own.

D_VIN_GADO said:
In regards to SamsungHD bit-rate, you can Google that one on your own.
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I tried that first! Didn't get any definitive info.

D_VIN_GADO said:
Not really a problem...just turn it on once after you pair the headphones and that's it.
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Great. I'll try that.

D_VIN_GADO said:
Not really a problem...just turn it on once after you pair the headphones and that's it.
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I dont have this codec menu....it apears in all devices you pair whith?

madjose said:
I dont have this codec menu....it apears in all devices you pair whith?
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No, only devices that support LDAC like the OP's Sony XM2's and my Sony MDR1000X's. LDAC is a Sony wireless audio codec if you haven't figured that out yet. :silly:

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Bad bluetooth quality (A2DP)

Hey guys!
I listen music every day, that's very important stuff for me in my phone. I used X10 & PowerAmp + SE Aino headset (like MW600) and there were no problems... But now I notice, that there is a very bad lag - low bitrate while listening music in my Note. This problem is common, for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...;highlight=a2dp
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892080
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/in.../t-1187488.html
Do you have such problem?
How can I solve it?
same issue
NightWildChild said:
Hey guys!
I listen music every day, that's very important stuff for me in my phone. I used X10 & PowerAmp + SE Aino headset (like MW600) and there were no problems... But now I notice, that there is a very bad lag - low bitrate while listening music in my Note. This problem is common, for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...;highlight=a2dp
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892080
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/in.../t-1187488.html
Do you have such problem?
How can I solve it?
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I have the same issue, the quality is not the best. My Samsung galaxy sii has the same problem.
When I am on the phone, the quality is even worse, it is kind of distorted.
did u try it with Power Amp software ??
vfxaravind said:
did u try it with Power Amp software ??
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Of course, now I'm using same stuff: SE Aino headset + power Amp + Note
Confirm. Sound over a2dp is terrible. Cyanogen mod help for this in same case.
NightWildChild said:
Hey guys!
I listen music every day, that's very important stuff for me in my phone. I used X10 & PowerAmp + SE Aino headset (like MW600) and there were no problems... But now I notice, that there is a very bad lag - low bitrate while listening music in my Note. This problem is common, for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...;highlight=a2dp
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892080
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/in.../t-1187488.html
Do you have such problem?
How can I solve it?
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Ok, I thought I'd leave a quick comment because I only use Bluetooth for my listening please and do so on a daily basis on my commute to work (bluetooth headphones) and I have two bluetooth speakers that I use whilst at home.
I previously owned a HTC Desire HD and both the G-Note and the Desire HD have the same high quality bluetooth A2DP.
What file quality are you using? And have you tried the standard audio player?
I have noticed lag when watching movies and connected to bluetooth, but that's about it.
denialnw10 said:
Ok, I thought I'd leave a quick comment because I only use Bluetooth for my listening please and do so on a daily basis on my commute to work (bluetooth headphones) and I have two bluetooth speakers that I use whilst at home.
I previously owned a HTC Desire HD and both the G-Note and the Desire HD have the same high quality bluetooth A2DP.
What file quality are you using? And have you tried the standard audio player?
I have noticed lag when watching movies and connected to bluetooth, but that's about it.
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I tryed with Power Amp & stock player - there is no difference. Of course I'm using Mp3 with 320 Kbit\s!
Look, same files, same headset, same player, but the sound in X10 much-much better than in the G Note.
I'm using A2DP with my nokia BH-905i and it sounds great. Could the audio be playing through the headset profile instead of the stereo A2DP profile?
PickleHead said:
I'm using A2DP with my nokia BH-905i and it sounds great. Could the audio be playing through the headset profile instead of the stereo A2DP profile?
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It's nice idea, but the audio is stereo and that means that the audio is going through the A2DP profile...
I usually pair my SGN with Sony MW600. Excellent audio clarity. No lag or whatsoever. Period.
It's a common problem with samsung devices. The only way to fix it for sure that I am aware of is a rom that uses its own bluetooth stack instead of the samsung one, like cyanogen. I hope that's coming to this device, sooner the better.
Maybe it's possible to copy some files of Bluetooth config from the another devices? Or it's not so easy
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA App
You have to manually deactivate the telephone mode for your a2dp device. Go to the list of bluetooth devices, long click on your a2dp device, then go to options and deselect telephone, leave only multimedia selected.
You're done. Music perfect
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
debernardis said:
You have to manually deactivate the telephone mode for your a2dp device. Go to the list of bluetooth devices, long click on your a2dp device, then go to options and deselect telephone, leave only multimedia selected.
You're done. Music perfect
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
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Sounds good..
But I've checked and there was no difference (unfortunately)
Did you try disabling and re-enabling bluetooth afterwards? My Note works perfectly in a2dp with a Nokia BH-214 adapter: no stuttering, no lags, nothing.
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
debernardis said:
Did you try disabling and re-enabling bluetooth afterwards? My Note works perfectly in a2dp with a Nokia BH-214 adapter: no stuttering, no lags, nothing.
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
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Yep
But if this helps anyway it's bad solution. How I can hear the phone ringing?
debernardis said:
Did you try disabling and re-enabling bluetooth afterwards? My Note works perfectly in a2dp with a Nokia BH-214 adapter: no stuttering, no lags, nothing.
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On MW600 sound still terrible. Sorry, maybe little better.
SO, how can it be that everyone seems to be getting varying levels of performance? Do you think it could be something to do with where your phone was purchased?
Mine was purchased on expansys (not sure which country it was imported from, but the language looked polish rather than german, but was definitely an EU version, and if anyone can help me narrow it down further let me know).
And my Bluetooth on my Stereo headphones, Parrot Stereo Speaker, and Samsung Speaker all sound perfect.
Might be worth considering a return if its model related.
I also have bad sound quality on my phillips bt headset on kj4... hope there will be a fix soon
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Seems like I'm the only one with good performance on a2dp. Can I help in any way?
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Note

Audio Out via USB, alternative solutions?

Hi,
I got used to Samsungs CarDock mode which allowed to charge the phone and play music through USB port directly to my car stereo (no BT,:crying: ). I used the iBolt XProDock ( here ) which is amazing.
Now I have the M8 and figured out that analog output is not on board. So I am looking for a solution:
a) A BT-receiver for my car audio, optimally charged with max 5.0 V via USB plug)
b) Any digital to analog converter (dac?), but not too much gadgets to be supplied with power and cables
c) A second earphone-cable ?
d) A software solution to get analog sound from USB?
Any suggestions?
http://www.accessorypower.com/gogroove-flexsmart-x3-p-2410.html
BT FM Transmitter it also charges phones at 1A
If you have an AUX input, get a stereoclip.. Uses APT-x codec for cd+ quality sound. Lasts about 6 hours on a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Bluetooth...qid=1396896640&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+stereoclip
APT-X Bluetooth codec actually sounds better than USB analog audio output. No engine noise or light clicks/background noise going on.
And it's a much higher quality than normal Bluetooth.
BUT, some apps are not yet APT-X friendly.
Utter being one of them if I remember correct.
Taknarosh said:
http://www.accessorypower.com/gogroove-flexsmart-x3-p-2410.html
BT FM Transmitter it also charges phones at 1A
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Looks cool, but needs a car power outlet which I don't want to block with this gadget. Since I use a plantronics BT-heaset for calls no handsfree functionality is required. But thnx for this!
regalpimpin said:
If you have an AUX input, get a stereoclip.. Uses APT-x codec for cd+ quality sound. Lasts about 6 hours on a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Bluetooth...qid=1396896640&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+stereoclip
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Found that already, but some people seem to have issues with that. Must check myself, thnx
CZ Eddie said:
APT-X Bluetooth codec actually sounds better than USB analog audio output. No engine noise or light clicks/background noise going on.
And it's a much higher quality than normal Bluetooth.
BUT, some apps are not yet APT-X friendly.
Utter being one of them if I remember correct.
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Sorry, how could that affect the idea of APT-X in my car? The One M8 works with APT-X, and when the BT-receiver also does, shouldn't any music player work fine? I use Player Pro, and this app works fine over regular BT. Is there a difference with APT-X?
charly-whiskey said:
Sorry, how could that affect the idea of APT-X in my car? The One M8 works with APT-X, and when the BT-receiver also does, shouldn't any music player work fine? I use Player Pro, and this app works fine over regular BT. Is there a difference with APT-X?
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Like I said, "some apps".
Yes, APT-X is handled differently somehow.
All music players I've tried have worked just fine though.
I think it's more "voice controlled" bluetooth related apps that sometimes have problems.
CZ Eddie said:
Like I said, "some apps".
Yes, APT-X is handled differently somehow.
All music players I've tried have worked just fine though.
I think it's more "voice controlled" bluetooth related apps that sometimes have problems.
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ok, nothing that botheres me.
I will try the BT-Solution.
Update 15.04.2014:
I bought a tiny BT-Receiver / (even with transmitter, which I don't need), here.
Works like a charme. Thnx for your advice!
Apt-x
APT-X cannot be used with just any device. In order to get full potential from apt-X you need to have AAC audio files which the HTC one m8 support and will give you much better sound then mp3. Also APT-X can only be used if the speakers support apt-X as well as the phone. If your phone supports apt-X but your speaker or stereo does not then the APT-X will not work. There are only a handful of speakers and stereos that support APT-X. But like I said APT-X supports audio at a higher bit-rate, then standard Bluetooth, and higher then a docked iPod. For good audio performance you need both a phone/player, and speaker/stereo that support APT-X on both ends, and you might want to load some songs from a CD in AAC format onto your computer to give you that CD quality sound, or buy some songs from HDtracks.com , to play using APT-X. But also the HTC one M8 should have gotten the lollipop 5.1 update which supports usb audio/host. So I would check and see if you have lollipop 5.1

Oreo poor sound quality / Bluetooth

Hi,
I updated my P10 to Oreo yesterday and I have a big problem. Sound quality on Bluetooth headphones is veeeery low. I'm using Spotify (premium if that's matter). Anybody have this problem? Or maybe a solution.
That's gotta be disappointing! Sorry for your trouble. Do you know if your headphones have bluetooth aptx?
AFAIK, the p10 has bluetooth aptx (https://www.aptx.com/products/huawei-p10) which should result in decent sound quality when paired with aptx compatible bluetooth headphones and speakers. My own very subjective tests comparing my p10 plus vs my non-aptx tablet when paired with a Marshall Woburn speaker supports this claim but I'm still running nouget. I wonder if the aptx is still active in Oreo?
I tried to change a bluetooth codec in developer settings but it's not working so I guess my headphones supports only SBC codec :/
The issue seems to stem from audio Codecs resetting. I have similar troubles with the Mate 9 where the audio is terrible unless I go into the developer options WHILE music is playing and change the settings, then the quality gets better until either a song is paused or something else causes an interruption in the audio playback.
Seems it is a bug. It triggers itself back to SBC only no matter what headphones are connected. I have Phillips with AAC support and the worked fine before upgrade. AptX model I have is not working correctly too. So the only way now is to wait for the fix I think...
Thanks for following up to this thread, Syndirail and ylapas. Since I use bluetooth for music every day I won't be upgrading to Oreo until I know this issue is resolved.
Unexpected surprise - P10 with quite cheap Chinese QCY headphones just connected to high quality aptX audio and sounds great, while Phillips sounds like crap definitely Oreo bug in determining hardware capabilities.
ylapas said:
Unexpected surprise - P10 with quite cheap Chinese QCY headphones just connected to high quality audio and sounds great, while Phillips sounds like crap definitely Oreo bug in determining hardware capabilities.
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Proof with QCY headphones connected.
My Sony headphone with LDAC is recognized and works very well.
Seems it can be a problem with headphones which does not have aptX / aptX HD or LDAC support, but have AAC. In Android 7 it worked well, in Android 8 it is for some reason limited to SBC only and never turned on, even if supported by the headphones.
ylapas, how can I view the bluetooth stats as you did in your attachment?
mattrask said:
ylapas, how can I view the bluetooth stats as you did in your attachment?
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Developer options
mattrask said:
ylapas, how can I view the bluetooth stats as you did in your attachment?
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You need to disconnect blutooth and reconnect, and then turn on your equipment..
My Sony UHP-H1 plays LDac to my Stereo and ht, my Xtz Divine headphones play aptX, and my Audio Pro T3 plays SBC, but it plays SBC from Spotify premium and all codes on Poweramp stunningly great...
SBC don't need to be poor with good signal, and good Dac and speakers...
I can't verify, can someone please do tests measure and verify. Huawei says no, you must buy mate10 or mate10 plus.
I try to get confirmation from Google Android but can't reach them.
I try to contact Sweden Google today.
Please update the thread...
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I contacted my telephone company on phone.
They are on the case, waiting for confirmation on mail.
Could anyone confirm if other codecs except SBC work? (I've also found issues on the Mate9 forum)
My Sony MF-100x connect only on SBC and the sound quality is not that great (when compared with an iPhone, not sure if only the codec is to blame though .. )
From developer settings any chance is reverted as soon as the dialog closes.
paul678 said:
Could anyone confirm if other codecs except SBC work? (I've also found issues on the Mate9 forum)
My Sony MF-100x connect only on SBC and the sound quality is not that great (when compared with an iPhone, not sure if only the codec is to blame though .. )
From developer settings any chance is reverted as soon as the dialog closes.
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You must turn off blutooth before you turn on and choose LDac..,
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Forgot Huawei confirmed that aptX on P10 is working.. still waiting for confirmation on LDac...
Yes, aptX is working on my P10 (Oreo). Tested with Sony MDR XB950B1. Anyone using MDR 1000x to confirm LDAC?
I have Sony UHP-H1 bluray with LDac...
But i dont have time to test now..
I have Jabra BT320S...Not so bad BUT, remains in low quality even after playing in DEV settings... But its not that awful,i can deal with that...will try in car
Edit1...
Ive tried different earphones on my jabra bt.. surprise...the ones offering best audio quality are the one i paid 1.99 $ at Dollarama...really cheap/crappy and unknown mark ...with original settings.
The sound with original Jabra JVC HA-EB75 really sucks...gets better if i push the speaker inside my brain through the ear hahahah
Edit 2..
just found in...you know,that third drawer that we put unused stuff.....some old Samsung from S2 and Woahh...Those im gonna keep :silly:
GAMaus said:
Yes, aptX is working on my P10 (Oreo). Tested with Sony MDR XB950B1. Anyone using MDR 1000x to confirm LDAC?
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Yes, aptX working fine, just not AAC - all my not aptX equipment is pushed back to SBC only now, even if it supported AAC in version 7 and sounded great.

AAC Bluetooth codec?

Hello All,
Just got this phone to replace my pixel 2 and the bluetooth connection to my wf-1000x is horrible.
when i connect to the P20 it stutters, skips and sometimes just disconnects on my few minutes walk to work.
Went back to the pixel and not such issue, completely rock solid connection.
Not only that, the headset connects to the pixel using AAC but won't go higher than SBC on the P20.
Is anyone else experiencing poor bluetooth performance and has anyone managed to get AAC working?
You sure you have them on "priority on sound quality" mode? That's what I needed on my Sony MDR-1000X to get anything other than SBC, which is pretty nasty I agree. I'm happily using LDAC and it's a completely different league in terms of sound quality.
Once I made the change it was showing LDAC in developers settings menu.
Highspeed123 said:
You sure you have them on "priority on sound quality" mode? That's what I needed on my Sony MDR-1000X to get anything other than SBC, which is pretty nasty I agree. I'm happily using LDAC and it's a completely different league in terms of sound quality.
Once I made the change it was showing LDAC in developers settings menu.
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These are the truly wireless buds, there is no LDAC support but AAC should still be much better which is what works on the pixel 2.
Refuses to go on the p20 even if choosing it manually and yes it's set to sound quality
Have the same issue with the bose qc 35ii that came with the phone, emailed support and awaiting a reply. Seems stupid to have the option and not be able to use it.
Beoplay E8
I have the same problem with beoplay E8. Will also mail the support.
Got the same issue with the Bose headphones only using SBC, does not switch to AAC. Have the latest firmware on the headphones & firmware 120 on the P20 Pro. Bit annoying considering one was a pre-order for the other. My budget £40 set can switch between SBC & AptX!
twe69 said:
Got the same issue with the Bose headphones only using SBC, does not switch to AAC. Have the latest firmware on the headphones & firmware 120 on the P20 Pro. Bit annoying considering one was a pre-order for the other. My budget £40 set can switch between SBC & AptX!
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I actually emailed Huawei regarding the AAC codec being broken. Apparently, the P20 Pro does not support AAC for Bluetooth. The technical specs on Huawei UK says "Bluetooth®: BT 4.2, aptX™, aptX™ HD, LDAC and HWA are supported"
But in developer mode, the AAC codec is there, but the setting wouldn't stay. I wonder whether there are any hacks that we can perform to install the codec.
LDAC . APTX , APTXHD ,... which is the best ???
nchmaster said:
LDAC . APTX , APTXHD ,... which is the best ???
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In order of quality (low to high) - SBC, APTX, APTXHD, LDAC.
jphilippe.goh said:
I actually emailed Huawei regarding the AAC codec being broken. Apparently, the P20 Pro does not support AAC for Bluetooth. The technical specs on Huawei UK says "Bluetooth®: BT 4.2, aptX™, aptX™ HD, LDAC and HWA are supported"
But in developer mode, the AAC codec is there, but the setting wouldn't stay. I wonder whether there are any hacks that we can perform to install the codec.
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Oh that's annoying, better sound is always welcome.

Bluetooth Audio Crackling

Hey guys, I've recently bought an Honor Play, really happy with the device but just got a pair of bluetooth headphones, Mixcder E7
the bluetooth audio quality is really bad and it crackles, I've tried changing the codec from the developer settings but it appears these headphones only support SBC
I doubt the codec is the reason why the audio is crackling though, does anybody have any suggestion?
(it sounds perfectly fine using the headphone jack)
Thanks in advance
Alex
alextana said:
Hey guys, I've recently bought an Honor Play, really happy with the device but just got a pair of bluetooth headphones, Mixcder E7
the bluetooth audio quality is really bad and it crackles, I've tried changing the codec from the developer settings but it appears these headphones only support SBC
I doubt the codec is the reason why the audio is crackling though, does anybody have any suggestion?
(it sounds perfectly fine using the headphone jack)
Thanks in advance
Alex
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I would try changing any settings you can on the headphones and see what happens. For example, my headphones offer a choice of Bluetooth standards; the ability to favour sound quality over stability etc. Additionally, see if this happens away from sources of 2.4ghz noise such as microwaves. Don't surf at the same time, or try and use 5ghz WiFi.
alextana said:
Hey guys, I've recently bought an Honor Play, really happy with the device but just got a pair of bluetooth headphones, Mixcder E7
the bluetooth audio quality is really bad and it crackles, I've tried changing the codec from the developer settings but it appears these headphones only support SBC
I doubt the codec is the reason why the audio is crackling though, does anybody have any suggestion?
(it sounds perfectly fine using the headphone jack)
Thanks in advance
Alex
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Are you already try to pair that headphone to other device to check the sound? I'm have a bluetooth earphone and the output sound is normal on my Honor Play ?
junkiespam said:
Are you already try to pair that headphone to other device to check the sound? I'm have a bluetooth earphone and the output sound is normal on my Honor Play
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Yeah it works fine on my laptop via Bluetooth but still getting crackling sound on my phone
My headphones don't have any settings besides active noise cancelling and volume
?
alextana said:
Yeah it works fine on my laptop via Bluetooth but still getting crackling sound on my phone
My headphones don't have any settings besides active noise cancelling and volume
?
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Try to unpair and pairing again or try to reset network settings.
Go to Settings > System > Reset
Click on Reset Network settings
Confirm Reset Settings
junkiespam said:
Try to unpair and pairing again or try to reset network settings.
Go to Settings > System > Reset
Click on Reset Network settings
Confirm Reset Settings
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Resetting the network setting helped my headset out. I dunno bout OP tho.
Hi, I have an honor play and bought wireless headphones and I'm running into this problem as well... Have u found a solution? thanks

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