Hi all.
I am having a bit of a pain with Google Maps and my N8.
If I have 2-4 phones open side by side and go to Google Maps, input an address and click start, the N8 sits on a big blue location dot, not showing a direction to turn to arrow, whereas the other phones show the direction arrow immediately with no dot at all.
The dot does not go away till I am driving away and the arrow comes up after a couple of seconds.
I have tried this with 4 of my phones - iOS and Android, Oreo and Nougat, same location, same carrier.
The N8 is the only one that does this.
Now I know this has been discussed before, but NOTHING recommended works. Clear app Cache, uninstall updates, disable GM, clear System cache, Restart, download a GPS app...nothing.
What could be causing this please? It is embarrassing and extremely annoying...I am not even going to get into how long images and videos take to download (and often timeout) in WhatsApp and emails.
ap10046 said:
Hi all.
I am having a bit of a pain with Google Maps and my N8.
If I have 2-4 phones open side by side and go to Google Maps, input an address and click start, the N8 sits on a big blue location dot, not showing a direction to turn to arrow, whereas the other phones show the direction arrow immediately with no dot at all.
The dot does not go away till I am driving away and the arrow comes up after a couple of seconds.
I have tried this with 4 of my phones - iOS and Android, Oreo and Nougat, same location, same carrier.
The N8 is the only one that does this.
Now I know this has been discussed before, but NOTHING recommended works. Clear app Cache, uninstall updates, disable GM, clear System cache, Restart, download a GPS app...nothing.
What could be causing this please? It is embarrassing and extremely annoying...I am not even going to get into how long images and videos take to download (and often timeout) in WhatsApp and emails.
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Your last paragraph gives it away. It's not the GPS because there are other radio related ssues as well...
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA
But the cellular data was an issue in 2 other N8's as well. I'm actually on my 3rd one because of that. The service centers said there was nothing wrong with both. Can't be the same issue in 3 consecutive phones? Can it?
Not sure what you issue is about....
GPS (your topic subject) is about geographical position, accuracy, # satellites, time to first fix, speed, heading, etc). Your issue does not relate to any of those attributes. In many devices, or better applications, compass input OR movement is required to receive or calculate the actual heading of the device or vehicle the device is mounted to.
Then there is navigation, dealing with current geographical position - mostly shown on a map, a defined destination, means of transportation (car, bike, publ. transport) and the directions how to get from current location/position to destination.
In Note 8 (as in most phones) the phone (hardware, kernel) and OS provide the GPS position/location, while the App (Google maps, Here, etc) provides the display of position/location on a map plus navigation information - instructions/directions.
If online map dBase is used, the internet connection is used to access map information (and other info, like traffic related info).
OP does not describe any issues with GPS, but merely perceived issue with navigation.
I just did a test with both my Note 4 (N950U1, 8.0.0 Oreo, TMO netw, Google Maps version 9.75.1) and my Note 4 (N910F, 6.0.1 MM, TMO netw, Google maps version 9.74.1).
The behaviour and presentation of Google maps on my Note 8/N950U1 is exactly the same as on my Note 4.
Only difference is that my Note 8 (SD) does have a GPS fix much earlier/faster with higher accuracy (= GPS, not navigation).
In my case: all good with my Note 8!
Questions for OP:
1. What Note type are you referring to (Exynos/SD)?*
2. Are you using same Google Maps versions on the different phones?
UPDATE: conducted another dynamic test in car.
Indeed Navigation in Google Maps has an issue where the directions in Maps seem to get stuck unpredictably. I think it was introduced in last update of Maps App, not related with Oreo as my Note 4 with Marshmallow has same issue.
No issues while using Here App on either phone.
Hi
Thank you for your response.
It's an unlocked Exynos Dual Sim model, as were the other ones - 2, 128GB and 1, 256GB.
It is definitely a problem.
It's like this : come to a cross road or somewhere unfamiliar, and start Google Maps. Enter a destination and press Start. In a car, on the road, doesn't matter.
Normally, it should give an arrow and tell you where to go.
With the N8, it's a blue dot and that's it. Do you go left, right, straight, make a U Turn?
Once you start moving for a couple of seconds, then the arrow comes up.
I have tried this with Huawei Porsche Designs - Mate 9 and Mate 10 Pro, and a Priv for Android, all using the newest version of GM.
For iOS, I used an X.
None of them had this issue and as mentioned earlier, this is the 3rd one!
Just really hope this is fixed in an update. I STILL have not received the Oreo update.
I know this doesnt solve your issue, but a little suggestion in the interim to more easily orient yourself, tap the compass icon to orient the map north up. Good luck anyway!
Thanks Tech_Primus, I have tried everything, it doesn't change the orientation of the map. It just sits there and then snaps into location with the arrow after driving for a bit, on the wrong road.
While having same issues as OP, I removed the updates of Maps App. That solved issue on my Note 8 and my Note 4.
Any update to this please?
This IS a problem.
NOTHING works - factory reset or clear caches or remove updates or uninstall or download apps - makes no difference whatsoever. The Blue dot will not change to the arrow on a cold start of the app, after which it works fine, so it cannot be a GPS issue as t works fine after a few seconds.
Location makes no difference either. Inside, outside, in a car, on a car...it is always exactly the same.
It is just absolutely unacceptable for a phone of this calibre to do this.
ap10046 said:
Any update to this please?
This IS a problem.
NOTHING works - factory reset or clear caches or remove updates or uninstall or download apps - makes no difference whatsoever. The Blue dot will not change to the arrow on a cold start of the app, after which it works fine, so it cannot be a GPS issue as t works fine after a few seconds.
Location makes no difference either. Inside, outside, in a car, on a car...it is always exactly the same.
It is just absolutely unacceptable for a phone of this calibre to do this.
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Maybe a hardware issue. Mine always works like a charm
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA
3 phones?
I would say that's a class action lawsuit...lol
I have the same issue. After lot of try and testing this app solve the problem.
GPSRepairFix in google play
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Hi.
I tried that. No joy.
I did a test with 4 phones today. Same spot on my desk. Same carrier. 2 iPhone and 2 Android. All of them snapped into the navigation blue arrow. Except the Note 8, left them for 30 minutes but the blue dot did not change. Even the navigation screen cannot be changed from Track up to North up. It just sits there.
Took them all into the car. Lined them on the dash. Cold started Gmaps. Exactly the same thing.
After I drove for about 300meters and touched approx. 10mph, the Note 8 blue arrow then came up, the map jumped and righted itself and navigated normally. If Gmaps is closed and restarted then it works as expected.
But if it is a cold start of the app, as in force close the app and restart it afresh, then it will blue dot always.
I even tried Waze. NO issue. At all. Works perfectly. So I am led to believe this is an unaddressed Gmaps and Note 8 issue alone.
This is the 3rd unlocked Note 8 to do this. 1 256GB and 2 128GB ones.
There is DEFINITELY an issue with this phone.
No matter what explanations are provided.
Same here. UK Exynos N8 64GB.
Still, I use Magic Earth for nav because Google Maps has screen burn in issues so it's not a problem for me. My N8 gets super-accurate GPS positioning on Google maps though!
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That is not a bad app!
Thank you. I did not know about Magic Earth.
Does it do traffic at all?
I will try it and report my findings.
If it works, maybe this thing will redeem itself. If not, I'll see you'll when someone decides to bring out a working Android phone.
Edit : I installed and put in a destination. The blue arrow popped up instantaneously and was ready to navigate.
I tried GMaps again to test it, and it only sits on a blue useless dot. So I will need to uninstall it.
Google if you lot are listening... Google Maps has a big issue with some Android phones!!!
You are not alone, I have the same problem. Today i needed to use google maps to navigate and had to pin point my direction based on street names cause GPS wasn't locking in and google maps was showing the way from a random place around me. Really annoying.
Mine is not unlocked. Verizon. Maybe the issue since it is specific to the Note 8 but only unlocked versions, it is possibly other software interfering? Hard reset and do just the GPS testing with no software installed, and in more than one location...?
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA
Hi
I have hard reset/factory reset each of the 3, at least 2-3 times with no backup, as a fresh setup. No other apps but the stock ones.
Once had to factory reset even when I was out of my home city and it proved to be an abominable nuisance to the extent I had to go and buy a used iPhone to help out.
No difference really.
The strange thing is Waze and Magic Earth lock on instantly. It's only GMaps from a cold start that just can't navigate. It gives the location fix - from and to with no issue at all.
If it were indeed, hardware related, I wonder why it works perfectly only once moving after a few seconds...but if stationary, the blue dot will not turn into a navigation arrow no matter how long it sits there.
I do believe this may be something that Oreo has broken...?
This is a maps issue. Google has been adding tons of features but neglecting the core app.... Navigation. I'm a courier and drive about 1600 mi/ wk. Maps has definitely degraded over the past year. The inability to lock starting position is very frustrating and leads to a crap shoot when starting a trip. This is prevalent in both my Note (snapdragon) and my Asus tablet (mediatek)I use for navigation.
I really don't get it. How can it be so different. Exynos note 8 here, oreo, using only gps. Even if i sit at home and start maps, i get a lock, the arrow appears and the voice prompt starts. Outside it's the same. So i would say it's working good.
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Has anyone tried Navigon on their Captivate? I remember seeing some speculation that apps that rely on Google Maps may have bad tracking due to software. Just curious how well Navigon performs before I plunk down the cash.
the new version of Navigon that came out yesterday, actually runs on a map pack you download. It even says to make sure your on wifi in the app description on the market.
My GPS on my Captivate hasn't been as bad as some. While using Google Nav, I'll occasionally get the dreaded blue circle, but for the most part, it keeps me on the road.
I bought this yesterday and had it download the maps. I used it for a 30 minute drive to work and it worked good for me. It kept me on the road, didn't lag and had accurate maps (since they're NAVTEQ like Garmin uses). Halfway here, the app did close and restart itself and I had to re-select my destination. Not sure what happened there, but I'll try it on my way home again too.
Its got some nice features. It announces street names like Google Nav (CoPilot doesn't do this I don't think). It has Google Live Search for POIs, which is a HUGE plus for me instead of relying on a static database. Has red light camera alerts and quite a few other features.
i use navigon on daily basis and i love it. better than any other navigation software for android.
Just got the Navigon app. Love it!!!
Here's my take: all features aside, it seems to be better at dealing with Samsungs funky GPS than Google Navigation.
With Google navigation, I'd be driving and all of a sudden it'd think I was a block laterally and it'd wreak *havok* on my turn by turn directions. This is called losing a lock.
With Navigon, didn't happen in my 30min test in downtown Chicago. my phone acted just like the iPhone I had before it.
I don't think this app fixed GPS. I think it just knows how to deal with crummy hardware / drivers
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Installed tonight...45 min drive...quick/basic eval...
There are features I like about this, and in my basic test tonigh, I have not been able to test some of the 'fancy' features mentioned above. Here are some initial thoughts:
The Good
Much more pleasant voice
I loved the fact that it put up a speed limit sign in upper right, showing the speed limit of the street I am on. Updated immediately when SL changed
As others above said, it seems to definitely handle the funky Captivate GPS better
Seemed to get directions faster, and update faster when not following directions, than Google Nav
It does have a Google Search for POIs, although I found it did not bring up a complete list. For example I searched for Walmart. There are 2 in my town, and it brought up only the one closed to me, which is a much smaller one than the other
The Ugly
It did not consistently say street names. In fact most of the time it didn't
If you moved to another app, or if my music player came in front, the NAV stopped working. When I switched back to it, it had to re-load or something (had a wait type message) and then had to reroute
When playing through my Motorola 505 through to radio, the voice played on both the phone and BT, and this phone (maybe all Android phones, I don't know) has a delay at teh bluetooth, so it sounded like an echo
The map had almost none of the streets named as you drove. It just listed the next turn street listed. It didn't even indicate what street you are driving on.
My comparison software would be Google Nav, of course, and also TomTom on Winmo, which I used over the past 3 years. There are features in Navigon that are not in either of those, but for the basics, it doesn't, IMO, come close to Google, nor my OLD TomTom.
My need for this would really be only to have a backup solution should I go somewhere that I cannot receive data for Google. I am undecided whether to keep it or return and hope TomTom is better, whenever it comes out.
I must admit though, one thing that this product, I belive like the others above, may not put me on wrong streets like happesn with the Google Nav. But then, I haven't tested it that much yet.
google has 24 hours refund. is it really easy for refund? i wanna give navigon a try
I just returned mine a couple hours ago.
Typically, you get a notice right when you uninstall "Your account will be credited", or something like that, but I didn't. So it had me worried.
but in about 5 min I received an email from Google Checkout that my account would not be charged.
Its as easy as uninstalling the app.
I decided to give it a shot. It never found me on my entire drive home. I'm running a fresh install (as of this morning) of Cognition 2.2 beta 9.1.3.
I told it to display map, and it just had some random map scene and a red bar across the top that had GPS in all caps. After a while, I hit the menu key, GPS-Info, and it has my Lat and Long at all zeros.
Not sure what to do other than take solace in knowing I'll have a working Navigon in my future Android handsets. I was too trusting of it and didn't test it within the initial 24 hours, so there's no refund button.
When I tested with it, it was a bit slow to get a hook, but I kicked off GPS Status, and it got a hook pretty quick, then Navigon did too. After that, the few times i used it, it hooked up OK.
my complain is that it has no ROUTE listing! i probably going to uninstall it and get refund. let say i dont want to use freeway 101 and use freeway 80 instead. but you cant! cus there is no route listing!
netnerd said:
my complain is that it has no ROUTE listing! i probably going to uninstall it and get refund. let say i dont want to use freeway 101 and use freeway 80 instead. but you cant! cus there is no route listing!
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When I first put in my destination it gives me a list of 3-4 routes and I can select the one I want, otherwise after about 10 seconds, it defaults to the My Route (orange) one.
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I decided to give it a shot. It never found me on my entire drive home. I'm running a fresh install (as of this morning) of Cognition 2.2 beta 9.1.3.
I told it to display map, and it just had some random map scene and a red bar across the top that had GPS in all caps. After a while, I hit the menu key, GPS-Info, and it has my Lat and Long at all zeros.
Not sure what to do other than take solace in knowing I'll have a working Navigon in my future Android handsets. I was too trusting of it and didn't test it within the initial 24 hours, so there's no refund button.
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Have you tried other GPS apps to get a lock? That is more like a phone/ROM issue than an app issue. Try Google Maps, or download GPS Status from the Market and try that one.
I'm on Cog 2.2 Beta 9 and it works here. If you turn on all the location assists in the settings, it should help you get a faster lock. You could also check out the Jupiter files in the Dev forum. Get v006 and copy the 3 files and reboot...it might help.
Some people have no luck getting a lock without messing with settings or files, and using a different app usually doesn't change that.
I thought I'd share a few findings from my use of the MIX over the last few days to save others some frustration setting up and using this great phone. So far, I am really enjoying the phone!
It's runs on AT&T just fine - in some places, I'm getting LTE (4G) based on available bands and H+ or 3G in most others; I don't watch a lot of video on the phone so speed really hasn't been an issue.
Getting Google apps installed was very frustrating due to the download constantly crashing. Took me awhile to figure out the problem and, once I did, it installed easily. (see posts elsewhere on how to download and install from the MI store).
The biggest things I've learned is that you have to shut off the default download accelerator (I think it has trouble hitting servers in China from outside China) and allow downloads from cell connections (if you want that) in the MI store as those setting carry over into the Play store.
Open the MI "App Store" then under Account (you'll need to establish a MI account - easy to do), Downloads, on the top left click on the little bird and shut off the Xunlei accelerator - that fixed all my download problems. Then on the same downloads page, click on the 3 dots on the top right and chose Settings. Under the settings, you can change "download using mobile data is" to whatever setting you want; I set it as unlimited. Those settings carry over to the google play store (no matter what you chose on play) which is why I was having problems downloading apps over cellular even when I said it was ok.
I checked the phone for the adups spyware reported installed on phones from China using debloater and didn't find anything.
I installed Nova launcher (instead of the default launcher) with the pixel icon pack and am now very happy with the phone.
it's big (and slippery so I'm using the case that came with the unit) and a pretty cool phone. No lag, speed issues or anything else to report so far.
Wow... Just got my phone yesterday and was so annoyed with not being able to download most things, especially the Google Play Services. Thank you so much for this. Everything works now.
I thought it may have to do with my SIM card saying its not activated, even though I could still call, text, and had internet. Do you have the same message?
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OP should be stickied because the download accelerator is turned on by default.
TGUY25 said:
I thought I'd share a few findings from my use of the MIX over the last few days to save others some frustration setting up and using this great phone. So far, I am really enjoying the phone!
It's runs on AT&T just fine - in some places, I'm getting LTE (4G) based on available bands and H+ or 3G in most others; I don't watch a lot of video on the phone so speed really hasn't been an issue.
Getting Google apps installed was very frustrating due to the download constantly crashing. Took me awhile to figure out the problem and, once I did, it installed easily. (see posts elsewhere on how to download and install from the MI store).
The biggest things I've learned is that you have to shut off the default download accelerator (I think it has trouble hitting servers in China from outside China) and allow downloads from cell connections (if you want that) in the MI store as those setting carry over into the Play store.
Open the MI "App Store" then under Account (you'll need to establish a MI account - easy to do), Downloads, on the top left click on the little bird and shut off the Xunlei accelerator - that fixed all my download problems. Then on the same downloads page, click on the 3 dots on the top right and chose Settings. Under the settings, you can change "download using mobile data is" to whatever setting you want; I set it as unlimited. Those settings carry over to the google play store (no matter what you chose on play) which is why I was having problems downloading apps over cellular even when I said it was ok.
I checked the phone for the adups spyware reported installed on phones from China using debloater and didn't find anything.
I installed Nova launcher (instead of the default launcher) with the pixel icon pack and am now very happy with the phone.
it's big (and slippery so I'm using the case that came with the unit) and a pretty cool phone. No lag, speed issues or anything else to report so far.
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Thanks for your thoughts.
I am awaiting mine to be delivered within next few days and I am wondering if you have noticed any issues with push notifications? I use Nine email and proper pusch notifications are key factors for daily use of the device.
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Thanks for your thoughts.
I am awaiting mine to be delivered within next few days and I am wondering if you have noticed any issues with push notifications? I use Nine email and proper pusch notifications are key factors for daily use of the device.
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I'm getting some push notification delays with Hangouts, Tapatalk, and Gmail.
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I'm getting some push notification delays with Hangouts, Tapatalk, and Gmail.
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Thanks!
Have you tried to change battery performance plan or adjust all the settings which are related to app background data or secure the app to be alive when the screen is off?
I think with Android 6.0 and its doze stuff this will require some more efforts to make the settings workable for all those apps which require some push services when the screen is off.
@OP
Where did you find the Mi App Store? I don't see it in mine, I wonder if it was taken out by the shop that sold me the phone. Play Store says not available in my country when I did a search for it.
I couldn't find that on my phone either so any help would be greatly appreciated!
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I couldn't find that on my phone either so any help would be greatly appreciated!
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As soon as I receive mine and start playing with settings I will share whatever support will be valuable.
mine came right out of the box and it had the "app store" with the MI logo on it. it was not a custom rom - the off the shelf china rom and I selected English as the language. I still have a few funky things going on. Android Pay will work then sometimes I'll get an "Android Pay not available" error and have to uninstall/reinstall the app - I think this has something to do with permissions.
I haven't found anything that references doze mode and did a setting search and found nothing. the phone us running android 6
The forbes review. Mentioned how miui aggressively kills background apps unless you disable that.
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The forbes review. Mentioned how miui aggressively kills background apps unless you disable that.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69641266&postcount=42
I have yet to find LTE, but HSPA+ is working well enough. (I'm in NH and MA). I'm on AT&T as well.
I am still getting used to how small this phone feels compared to my Huawei Mediapad X2, but the Mi Mix is so much faster! and background apps dont secretly close all the time like on the Huawei so that's a huge plus.
Slippery...... Yeah, why is this so slippery? I hate using cases with my phones, but I just don't think its a good idea on this one. Really only the thin sides need help, I thought about applying some sort of slim tape strips or skateboard griptape just on the very edge of the phone. I think this would help quite a bit...
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I have yet to find LTE, but HSPA+ is working well enough. (I'm in NH and MA). I'm on AT&T as well.
I am still getting used to how small this phone feels compared to my Huawei Mediapad X2, but the Mi Mix is so much faster! and background apps dont secretly close all the time like on the Huawei so that's a huge plus.
Slippery...... Yeah, why is this so slippery? I hate using cases with my phones, but I just don't think its a good idea on this one. Really only the thin sides need help, I thought about applying some sort of slim tape strips or skateboard griptape just on the very edge of the phone. I think this would help quite a bit...
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get one of those carbon fiber (look) adhesive back skins available for the Tab s 8.4 (just cut it down to size-helps with the grip without adding thickness) 4.99 last I checked on Ebay (takes time though as it comes from China) have used it on 2 devices so far (just cut and adapt)
wondering about your LTE (lack thereof) - as bands 2, 4 and 5 are available on this device. I know here in Michigan, bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices (do not have the Mix) depending upon the area I am in. 5 is not here but is in N Michigan-couple of users on xda said 5 was tapped into in the Dallas area-not sure of yours
check these
https://opensignal.com/
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1841948-LTE-bands-in-Northern-Michigan
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1881635-AT-amp-T-s-Band-30-WCS-LTE-Deployment
mac231us said:
get one of those carbon fiber (look) adhesive back skins available for the Tab s 8.4 (just cut it down to size-helps with the grip without adding thickness) 4.99 last I checked on Ebay (takes time though as it comes from China) have used it on 2 devices so far (just cut and adapt)
wondering about your LTE (lack thereof) - as bands 2, 4 and 5 are available on this device. I know here in Michigan, bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices (do not have the Mix) depending upon the area I am in. 5 is not here but is in N Michigan-couple of users on xda said 5 was tapped into in the Dallas area-not sure of yours
check these
https://opensignal.com/
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1841948-LTE-bands-in-Northern-Michigan
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1881635-AT-amp-T-s-Band-30-WCS-LTE-Deployment
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I got some clear wide 3M packing tape, I'm going to put one piece over the back and up the 2 sides and see how that goes. I figure that will also keep the camera lens up off the desk a little as well. But I love your carbon fiber adhesive idea! I will have to look for that... And I actually have a Tab S 8.4 still that I used as my phone for a while...
When you say "bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices" Do you mean you have to do something at the carrier level to activate LTE? I haven't had an LTE phone on AT&T in a long time, too many overseas phones and have been using HSPA+ exclusively. I did go into the Sim card settings and select "Prefer LTE" but it never seems to stick? It just flashes away quickly no matter what I choose i there...
omniphil said:
I got some clear wide 3M packing tape, I'm going to put one piece over the back and up the 2 sides and see how that goes. I figure that will also keep the camera lens up off the desk a little as well. But I love your carbon fiber adhesive idea! I will have to look for that...
When you say "bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices" Do you mean you have to do something at the carrier level to activate LTE? I haven't had an LTE phone on AT&T in a long time, too many overseas phones and have been using HSPA+ exclusively. I did go into the Sim card settings and select "Prefer LTE" but it never seems to stick? It just flashes away quickly no matter what I choose i there...
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Sorry.. I meant to say they are seen on my devices or picked up (not activated)
check your local coverage using links I gave (2 of the 3)..although I could not find anything that would tell one which bands are in any given area - so some of the coverage shown could very well be coverage through bands not in the Mix like 17 on ATT or 12 on Tmobile or even 29 and 30 on ATT (less common I think).
this is the 'carbon fiber' (appearance) sticker
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Carbo...561385?hash=item33a448b8a9:g:BDYAAOSw7NNUL~d7
mac231us said:
Sorry.. I meant to say they are seen on my devices or picked up (not activated)
check your local coverage using links I gave (2 of the 3)..although I could not find anything that would tell one which bands are in any given area - so some of the coverage shown could very well be coverage through bands not in the Mix like 17 on ATT or 12 on Tmobile or even 29 and 30 on ATT (less common I think).
this is the 'carbon fiber' (appearance) sticker
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Carbo...561385?hash=item33a448b8a9:g:BDYAAOSw7NNUL~d7
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Perfect, thanks! I'll be down in Boston later today, I'll see what I can pickup for signal.
TGUY25 said:
I thought I'd share a few findings from my use of the MIX over the last few days to save others some frustration setting up and using this great phone. So far, I am really enjoying the phone!
It's runs on AT&T just fine - in some places, I'm getting LTE (4G) based on available bands and H+ or 3G in most others; I don't watch a lot of video on the phone so speed really hasn't been an issue.
Getting Google apps installed was very frustrating due to the download constantly crashing. Took me awhile to figure out the problem and, once I did, it installed easily. (see posts elsewhere on how to download and install from the MI store).
The biggest things I've learned is that you have to shut off the default download accelerator (I think it has trouble hitting servers in China from outside China) and allow downloads from cell connections (if you want that) in the MI store as those setting carry over into the Play store.
Open the MI "App Store" then under Account (you'll need to establish a MI account - easy to do), Downloads, on the top left click on the little bird and shut off the Xunlei accelerator - that fixed all my download problems. Then on the same downloads page, click on the 3 dots on the top right and chose Settings. Under the settings, you can change "download using mobile data is" to whatever setting you want; I set it as unlimited. Those settings carry over to the google play store (no matter what you chose on play) which is why I was having problems downloading apps over cellular even when I said it was ok.
I checked the phone for the adups spyware reported installed on phones from China using debloater and didn't find anything.
I installed Nova launcher (instead of the default launcher) with the pixel icon pack and am now very happy with the phone.
it's big (and slippery so I'm using the case that came with the unit) and a pretty cool phone. No lag, speed issues or anything else to report so far.
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Can you post a picture of NOVA launcher on your phone?
When you turn on Nova Launcher Persistent Search Bar mine automatically goes to Baidu for search instead of Google, I haven't been able to figure out that one yet..
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When you turn on Nova Launcher Persistent Search Bar mine automatically goes to Baidu for search instead of Google, I haven't been able to figure out that one yet..
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Same here,I stopped using it & went with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.natewren.csbw&hl=en
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Same here,I stopped using it & went with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.natewren.csbw&hl=en
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That app looked great right up until i used it, the floating bar moves when you try to enter text. Very odd
Not an official part of the beta...but I've been installing and using the betas via apkmirror. I use the Sony XAV-AX100 for android auto on it's latest firmware (1.02.06 as of this writing). Phone is a Nexus 6P running 7.1.2. Started with the v4.24.0.113 beta....it worked...albeit with frequent crashes/restarts. It seemed VERY beta. Sometimes it didn't audibly report hazards/police, etc. The "OK Google" style voice recognition worked fine in the app....e.g if I had Waze selected for Nav, a "Navigate to DESTINATION" responded with "OK, handing that to Waze..." and then the destination came up fine in Waze.
I tried this on a few long trips, but ultimately the frequent crashes (sometimes at critical navigation points) were too much, so I largely reverted back to Google Maps.
I am now on v4.26.0.902. It is overall MUCH more stable than the 113 beta, however, all of the OK Google voice recognition defaults to Google Maps...e.g. "Navigate to DESTINATION" switches you to Google Maps by default, even if you are in Waze when you do it...even when tapping the microphone in the waze search box. I really hope that isn't going to be the case in the release version of this when it comes out. It's kind of a deal breaker....you really need that ability to choose a new navigation destination on the fly with voice commands as you can do in GM.
Overall Feedback for both versions so far:
1. I miss the speed/speed limit overlay terribly. I know they are dealing with a screen real estate issue here...but I'd really like to see this added back in.
2. No ability to send ETA in the AA UX. Not really a deal breaker for me....I found this functionality spotty at best in the release versions of Waze.
3. The Map detail could be better. I know the head unit has lower resolution than my phone, but Google Maps looks much better on it.
4. I wish the dark theme/dark map would work on AA. If I switch the lights on, it goes to dark, but I'd like the ability to have this on all the time. The dark map seems to look better on the head unit's screen.
I'd be interested to hear the experiences of others so far.....
You know, I just don't understand the lack of talk in this forum about Waze Beta. I keep coming here and looking and this is really the only thing about it.
1. Speed limit overlay is coming back, they talked about it when the new version came out last week.
2. Agreed. It should prompt you via voice after you hit a Send ETA button on who you want to send it to.
3. Agreed. I am a Geographer/GIS Specialist by trade, so I know maps, this small of font on the screen when driving is unacceptable. The detail is also very poor.
4. You DO know you can set your Android Auto to always be Night Mode right? I prefer it that way.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68249351&postcount=7
Gives you the dark map all the time. Dark Google Play Music is better too.
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4. You DO know you can set your Android Auto to always be Night Mode right? I prefer it that way.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68249351&postcount=7
Gives you the dark map all the time. Dark Google Play Music is better too.
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I did not know that! Thanks for the tip!
I've got 905 installed now but the "Navigate to DESTINATION" via voice switching you to Google Maps by default issue persists, unfortunately. 113 didn't do that. I really hope they restore that so that it uses your last used navigation app, similar to how music works.
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I did not know that! Thanks for the tip!
I've got 905 installed now but the "Navigate to DESTINATION" via voice switching you to Google Maps by default issue persists, unfortunately. 113 didn't do that. I really hope they restore that so that it uses your last used navigation app, similar to how music works.
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905? Is that a new version that is AA capable?
We should use this thread, or maybe start a new one to notify XDA folks that do stumble in here when there's a new AA compatible beta. I've had to find out on *shudder* Reddit.
Installed 4.27.0.0 Beta on Friday. http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/waze/waze-gps-maps-traffic-alerts-live-navigation/waze-gps-maps-traffic-alerts-live-navigation-4-27-0-0-release/
I can confirm this version works with AA. Seems very stable, they fixed the "Navigate to DESTINATION" issue as well. Still no Speedometer. It may be because I've switched to always on night mode, but the map seems to look a little better than it did. I think they still need work with the fonts, etc. but this looks promising.
How does waze download map? I use it in car without Internet.
Last time i used it, i send Internet from phone to find the destination. Then i stoped Internet and working fine.
Last time i was in a trip, i started waze again, without Internet and without settings an adress. It was working but after a few minutes it didn't have map anyone. It just showing black for map..
Probably if i started Internet again it would show map. The program was working. It did work navigation but without map..
So i think when you search an andress, it download the map to go there. So even without Internet it will work. But if you dont follow the navigation and go to some other place, it wont have the map from the other place..
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How does waze download map? I use it in car without Internet.
Last time i used it, i send Internet from phone to find the destination. Then i stoped Internet and working fine.
Last time i was in a trip, i started waze again, without Internet and without settings an adress. It was working but after a few minutes it didn't have map anyone. It just showing black for map..
Probably if i started Internet again it would show map. The program was working. It did work navigation but without map..
So i think when you search an andress, it download the map to go there. So even without Internet it will work. But if you dont follow the navigation and go to some other place, it wont have the map from the other place..
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The purpose of this thread is for discussion of the Waze Beta on Android Auto. Perhaps you should ask your question in the general Waze forum: https://www.waze.com/forum/ With a general google search, I found this relevent thread here: https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=657&t=67879#p682703
Installed 4.27.0.1 beta. Working fine with AA. I don't see any feature updates...seems to be a bug fix release.
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Installed 4.27.0.1 beta. Working fine with AA. I don't see any feature updates...seems to be a bug fix release.
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Hey there. I am having trouble with android auto. I have the same head unit as you as well as the same phone. I have tried many times to get android auto running with my phone on the head unit and I always get a message about "android auto will resume when you are parked". The head unit does not give this message when connected to a samsung phone or an i-Phone (apple car play). This error only pops up with my device, Nexus 6P so I am assuming it was wired correctly by the installer. Can you PLEASE let me know what ROM you are on (including the build date) and possibly what cord you are using to connect to the provided USB extension cable? I have yet to get this head unit to work with my Nexus 6P and I have tried a different ROMs, settings, reboots etc. Please help.
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Hey there. I am having trouble with android auto. I have the same head unit as you as well as the same phone. I have tried many times to get android auto running with my phone on the head unit and I always get a message about "android auto will resume when you are parked". The head unit does not give this message when connected to a samsung phone or an i-Phone (apple car play). This error only pops up with my device, Nexus 6P so I am assuming it was wired correctly by the installer. Can you PLEASE let me know what ROM you are on (including the build date) and possibly what cord you are using to connect to the provided USB extension cable? I have yet to get this head unit to work with my Nexus 6P and I have tried a different ROMs, settings, reboots etc. Please help.
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I'm on the stock ROM....7.1.2 Build No: N2G470. The cord is just a generic USB-A to USB-C cord I bought at Fry's Electronics. FYI...I installed the head unit myself, and I think I may have had that issue initially. What I did to resolve it was ground the parking brake wire. This allows you to watch video on the head unit as well, if you have a USB stick with media on it (although I never do that).
Hope that helps....
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I'm on the stock ROM....7.1.2 Build No: N2G470. The cord is just a generic USB-A to USB-C cord I bought at Fry's Electronics. FYI...I installed the head unit myself, and I think I may have had that issue initially. What I did to resolve it was ground the parking brake wire. This allows you to watch video on the head unit as well, if you have a USB stick with media on it (although I never do that).
Hope that helps....
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Thanks skylaneffz. I am going to get the parking break wire grounded tomorrow. Debating if I want to just return to stock now and if everything works tomorrow, I can try a custom rom again later. Kinda annoying that I can get my girlfriends I-phone to work with the head unit and not my own. Currently running pure nexus 6/12 with no luck. Thanks again for your advice. Getting waze to work will be the next step once android auto is up and running.
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Debating if I want to just return to stock now and if everything works tomorrow, I can try a custom rom again later.
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I'd see if grounding the brake wire works first if I were you. Seems like a lot of trouble to go through. I'm on the stock ROM because my "Flashaholic" days are over
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I'd see if grounding the brake wire works first if I were you. Seems like a lot of trouble to go through. I'm on the stock ROM because my "Flashaholic" days are over
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Thanks,
I may revert to stock regardless. I only really use a custom rom because they tended to be considerably better than stock (at least initially with battery life etc). I have not been on a stock rom in so long I have no idea how they compare to customs now. Since i have flashed so many times now trying to get this to work, and I had no guarantee any flash would prove fruitful, my phone is not even completely set up. LOL. So may as well give stock a spin. Regardless, thank you so very much. I was about to give up hope getting android auto to work with my phone and head unit. Especially since the good people of Sony have told me twice the head unit does NOTwork with 6P (granted they also told me twice it did). Gotta love their customer service.
Apparently the release version is out now:
https://www.blog.google/products/android/waze-android-auto-here/
The release version seems to be the same as the last beta: 4.27.0.1
Android Auto now working with regular Waze release!
Yeah, but missing lane assist and no speeding limits is really annoying.
And the calculated arrival time is on Google maps much better than Waze. Only thing what is very cool are the speed traps in waze.
Waze has got wrong routing to me and is not a good navigation system. And i don´t like the social blabla with points and that stuff...
Maps and TomTom are much better.
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Yeah, but missing lane assist and no speeding limits is really annoying.
And the calculated arrival time is on Google maps much better than Waze. Only thing what is very cool are the speed traps in waze.
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I think there's a lot more stuff in ways that's a cool than that. Being able to go in and edit the map and add things or remove things and adjust them is fantastic. I do a fair amount of editing when I have time. Also the other reporting has turned out to be extremely important for me and has kept me from running into rather large roadkill and other trash items on the road from people towing trucks down to Mexico here in New Mexico.
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Waze has got wrong routing to me and is not a good navigation system. And i don´t like the social blabla with points and that stuff...
Maps and TomTom are much better.
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You may want to check your ways settings and make sure that they are set correctly for you. You can also do editing in your area to adjust the way that routing happens and it'll work better.
So i recently switched from sprinit to verizon and at the sametime updated my phone with the new system update. Since then my gps randomly stops keeping track of my location in a trip. I downloaded a gps tool from the app store and when it happens i use the app to reset my gps and it works. But then later if I use google maps again it randomly gives me the same issue. Its a easy enough fix but its annoying to have to keep doing that.
Was hoping there was some kind of fix or am I just unlucky and the gps is starting to go out.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Check here...settings, connections, mobile network. Make sure u r on lte/cdma for Verizon
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Check here...settings, connections, mobile network. Make sure u r on lte/cdma for Verizon
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Ya it was set to global. Hopefully it fixes it. Will test it out later when i need to leave work.
Having the same issue. I believe it started occurring after software update: N950USQU7DSL5 which was pushed out early February for me.
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Having the same issue. I believe it started occurring after software update: N950USQU7DSL5 which was pushed out early February for me.
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Ya I switched over from global to lte/cmda like chefji suggested and it helped were its not occuring as much but I still have the issue. Hopefully it gets fixed. If not i may have to try to revert back to an older update.
I just saw this thread after posting my questio above. Same issue and I'm on Verizon too. Mine has always been a Verizon phone. I dont recall exactly when the problem started but definitely within last 2 months. Never had issues before. For me, the workaround seems to be to use an app called GPS Fix/Optimizer and on the home page of that app, click on the button that says System off on bottom left and turn it to System on. I hate having to do these extra steps and never had a problem with any other Android phone doing this.
Try wiping the Cache Partition. If that doesn't help, backup your device and perform a Hard Factory reset.
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Try wiping the Cache Partition. If that doesn't help, backup your device and perform a Hard Factory reset.
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Wipe cache partition but there is no reason to do a hard factory reset. This is a GPS problem and not a software issue. It is not isolated to Note 8 phones but seems to affect S9, S9+, Note 9, Note 10, and possibly a few others. It also started early Feb after Note 8's received a security update and the others received the Android 10 update. Samsung, Google, and especially Verizon are all pointing fingers at each other for blame instead of working together to try and come up with a fix. One thing I have found is that unlike the countless Android phones I have had in the past, there is absolutely no way to control the GPS. There no longer is an on/off switch. The best available choice is to search deep in settings to find Location but the only thing it controls is on/off switches for Wifi Scanning or bluetooth scanning. Turning both of those on now is considered High Accuracy. The only thing that has worked for me is using an app called GPS Fix/Optimizer in conjunction with an app called GPS Status. By using both of those apps before using Waze or Google maps, allows me to successfully navigate and it can find my exact position. I have also discovered that besides Waze and G Maps, many are reporting the same kind of problem with other location based apps such as Uber and Lyft. This needs to be fixed and I could care less which company is at fault but one of them needs to step up or all need to come together and figure out the problem...
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Wipe cache partition but there is no reason to do a hard factory reset. This is a GPS problem and not a software issue. It is not isolated to Note 8 phones but seems to affect S9, S9+, Note 9, Note 10, and possibly a few others. It also started early Feb after Note 8's received a security update and the others received the Android 10 update. Samsung, Google, and especially Verizon are all pointing fingers at each other for blame instead of working together to try and come up with a fix. One thing I have found is that unlike the countless Android phones I have had in the past, there is absolutely no way to control the GPS. There no longer is an on/off switch. The best available choice is to search deep in settings to find Location but the only thing it controls is on/off switches for Wifi Scanning or bluetooth scanning. Turning both of those on now is considered High Accuracy. The only thing that has worked for me is using an app called GPS Fix/Optimizer in conjunction with an app called GPS Status. By using both of those apps before using Waze or Google maps, allows me to successfully navigate and it can find my exact position. I have also discovered that besides Waze and G Maps, many are reporting the same kind of problem with other location based apps such as Uber and Lyft. This needs to be fixed and I could care less which company is at fault but one of them needs to step up or all need to come together and figure out the problem...
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Hello, I am having the same problem. I have a Galaxy Note 8 from AT&T, this problem started end of February, workaround is to switch the location OFF and then back ON but is annoying. I reset network, clear cache and nothing fixed the problem so I thought was a problem in the phone itself so I submitted a claim to Asurion, got the brand new replacement phone and the following day exact same problem appeared.
Now reading this thread I am fully convinced that is a bug. I hope it gets solved ASAP.
I posted about this on another thread and what I have stumbled on:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82337821&postcount=18
I have seemed to narrow it down to it only happening when I connect my Note 8 to my 2016 Chevy Silverado and use Waze or Google maps on my radio via Android Auto. I made a few changes that I mentioned in the above thread to the battery settings for a couple apps. Because of the VID, I haven't been driving as much so I haven't done a lot of testing but this has seemed to help.
Well I thought it was fixed but it doesnt seem to be and it really seems to be an Android Auto glitch. Just yesterday, I had to run a couple errands and had phone plugged in for Android Auto. First couple trips, it worked just fine. Then one more trip, all I saw was the floating blue dot in Waze. While still plugged in to my Chevy, I went to GPS Fix and clicked to turn system on. I then went to GPS Status and it couldnt get a location fix. In GPS Status, I also selected Manage A-GPS State. First I tried reset and no fix. Then I did download and again, no fix. I gave it a little bit of time to see if it would work but it didnt. So next I unplugged my phone from my Chevy and again checked in GPS Status and no fix. I again went into Manage A-GPS State, reset, no fix, then download, and it fixed on my location right away. So for me, this is really pointing to an Android Auto issue. Hopefully a fix will come along soon...
Just to add, Waze had already been started once I fired up the Android Auto on the My Link Chevy radio as I had started a route. Waze was still running in the background when I disconnected from my Chevy radio so that kind of eliminates Waze as the problem, at least for me. Especially when GPS Status couldnt get a fix while I still had Android Auto running on my Chevy but as soon as I disconnected and ran through the GPS Status reset and download, I had a fix and Waze worked fine again.
Has this been resolved yet? Any fixes found?
Not completely resolved yet but the annoying workaround gets it working again. It should just work on it's own without all the extra steps. And I was able to get semi confirmation after creating a thread in the Google Support sub forum for Android Auto. I am being told that when plugging in the phone to use Android Auto that Android Auto attempts to also connect to the gps in my Chevy. It's kind of confusing and dont quite understand exactly what is happening. My vehicle does not have a dedicated gps system but I am being told that there could be some kind of GPS in the vehicle anyway and that could be causing the problem. I call BS on this info but I also didnt have any part of creating Android Auto. If this is what is happening, it pretty much says that Android Auto is probably the cause of the issue. I dont need military precision on my gps location and my phone inside my house will give me an accuracy of around 10 feet. No reason to be more accurate than that and this shouldn't even be a part of the Android Auto app.
https://support.google.com/androidauto/thread/45792804?hl=en
I posted this in the other thread but I'll add it here for completeness. I'm having the same issue on an unbranded note 8. But I'm not using android auto. I can use gps tools and it holds a lock fine. But if additional programs are launched, waze, maps, jbv1 I lose lock.
My Note 8 has the problem, I am not using WAZE, I am using The FitBit App with my VERSA 2, My Husband has the Note 9 and is using the FitBit App with his VERSA 2. His resulting miles walked and my resulting miles walked should be almost identical. They are not. I am consistently showing less miles than he does. When looking at the exercise map, generated by the GPS data, His walk path follows the streets we walked accurately, while mine cuts the corners, has me walking in drunken path across the properties located near the road and in some instances cutting across non walkable terrain. Giving me less mileage than my husband. Thankfully, my steps are accurately accounted for. I want this problem fixed. I don't like being cheated of my exercise miles.
Any update here? Note8 on Verizon. Having the same problem with Endomondo (fitness app) and Google Maps. Hard reset phone, and it's still problematic. For me, it might start out working fine, then midway thru a run it will stop. Usually resetting the app will make it work again.
I use T-mobile, and I tried just about everything and almost gave up. Today I was thinking that mayve its the wifi and bluetooth settings helping the GPS so I went to location and turned off the wifi and bluetooth improve accuracy settings and problem is fixed for me! So much headache gone. I was about to buy a new phone.
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I use T-mobile, and I tried just about everything and almost gave up. Today I was thinking that mayve its the wifi and bluetooth settings helping the GPS so I went to location and turned off the wifi and bluetooth improve accuracy settings and problem is fixed for me! So much headache gone. I was about to buy a new phone.
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Keep us updated if this continues to work. I will try this as well to see if it helps on mine too.
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I use T-mobile, and I tried just about everything and almost gave up. Today I was thinking that mayve its the wifi and bluetooth settings helping the GPS so I went to location and turned off the wifi and bluetooth improve accuracy settings and problem is fixed for me! So much headache gone. I was about to buy a new phone.
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I just tried this and it failed location fix right away after opening Waze in Android Auto on my Chevy. So still searching for a real fix...
Well it looks like the Android Auto developers are starting to listen. After creating a thread on their google community page months ago, and numerous others posting same issue, they said they were going to reach out to several posters by email with directions on creating a bug report to forward to them. They claim they have been unable to recreate the problem and wanted bug reports from several having the problem so they could take a look. I had another failure today on a trip so I created a bug file and forwarded it. We shall see what they find...
I had posted this over on the Note 8 Verizon board but dont think it is really a Verizon problem but more of a Note 8 problem and might get a better response here.
Just recently over the last couple months, I have been having a problem with getting a good gps signal in programs such as Waze and Google maps. I have done all kinds of searches and many mention to go into settings and in location settings, turn on High Accuracy. That option is bo longer available and not sure if it was eliminated in Pie. I have been doing all the latest updates and believe I am current. The only thing I have been able to find is to go into settings, then Google, and then Account Services and there I found location. The only choices under Improve Accuracy is to turn on Wifi scanning and Bluetooth scanning which I have done. There no longer is a choice of High Accuracy and the ability to turn GPS on or off like I had in previous phones and previous versions of Android. I have even tried turning on High Performance under Battery Power settings and turned off any choices to optimize battery or disable apps. I ended up downloading 2 different GPS apps from Store, GPS Status and GPS Fix/Optimizer. I will normally use Waze or Google maps through Android Auto. I can tell when there is a problem when the position indicator keeps bouncing all over the place in Waze and cant find exactly where I am. When that happens, I will check on GPS Status and it always shows that it is having a problem acquiring the satellite signals. I will then open up GPS Fix/Optimizer and on the home screen, there is a button that will say Service Off. I press it and it will then read Service On. Switching back to GPS Status will now show that it is starting to acquire multiple satellite signals. When I switch back to Waze, now it is able to show my exact location and begins to work properly.
This is driving me nuts. I never had this problem on any other of multiple different phones or Android versions. I can get GPS working but have to jump through all these hoops each time and it sucks. So what other steps can I do to be able to fire up Waze and have it find me right away?
I've had this problem for YEARS on all my Samsung devices running the latest firmware updates and unrooted while connected to a LTE data plan. The issue doesn't affect my other (new) Samsung A30 however. I've always had the latest note series since the Note2, 3, 4, 5, 8.
If I have my Samsung A30 and Note 8 with Google Maps giving me turn by turn directions, my Note 8 (as with my current phones) will stop reporting my location from the very begining of the trip while my Samsung A30 is giving the correct updates. All phones are connected to the same carrier, and same GPS / App settings.
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What is consistent about all my Notes is that I've been using Samsung Smart Switch to transfer over the data from the previous Note to the next. I wonder if I transferred over some corrupt settings somewhere. No GPS app works as it should for me unless I'm connected to WiFi, or restart my device, then it works for a few minutes, then gets "lost" again.
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I've had this problem for YEARS on all my Samsung devices running the latest firmware updates and unrooted while connected to a LTE data plan. The issue doesn't affect my other (new) Samsung A30 however. I've always had the latest note series since the Note2, 3, 4, 5, 8.
If I have my Samsung A30 and Note 8 with Google Maps giving me turn by turn directions, my Note 8 (as with my current phones) will stop reporting my location from the very begining of the trip while my Samsung A30 is giving the correct updates. All phones are connected to the same carrier, and same GPS / App settings.
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What is consistent about all my Notes is that I've been using Samsung Smart Switch to transfer over the data from the previous Note to the next. I wonder if I transferred over some corrupt settings somewhere. No GPS app works as it should for me unless I'm connected to WiFi, or restart my device, then it works for a few minutes, then gets "lost" again.
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The more I've looked into it, it seems to have occurred following the early Feb update. It also seems to have affected S9 phones and Note 9 and 10 and possibly others after they got the Android 10 update. But it seems to be only a Samsung problem. Samsung, Google, and Verizon are all blaming each other instead of trying to figure out a fix. The biggest issue I see is the lack of control of being able to change the GPS from off to on. Without being able to control the GPS, we are at the mercy of the software to do that and it is obviously failing. The only workaround I have found was what I posted above and utilizing GPS Fix/Optimizer and GPS Status apps, I can get both Waze and Google Maps to work properly. It just bugs me that I have to go through several steps to do this instead of just firing up my navigation app and taking off...
And just to add, I too have used Smart Switch many times before and never had problem. It only started recently. As far as the control for GPS, I'm not sure when that setting was removed. I never paid much attention before because it wasnt necessary. But what I did find curious was that Location setting was buried instead of it being one of the main settings. You really have to dig to find it now...
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[/COLOR]What is consistent about all my Notes is that I've been using Samsung Smart Switch to transfer over the data from the previous Note to the next. I wonder if I transferred over some corrupt settings somewhere. No GPS app works as it should for me unless I'm connected to WiFi, or restart my device, then it works for a few minutes, then gets "lost" again.
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I have noticed that certain apps like GPS apps require that you reinstall them onto your new device from scratch. As SmartSwitch doesn't seem to transfer the data files corrected to other Samsung devices.
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I have noticed that certain apps like GPS apps require that you reinstall them onto your new device from scratch. As SmartSwitch doesn't seem to transfer the data files corrected to other Samsung devices.
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I agree with that but this is not a new device nor have I done any kind of restore or transfer from an old phone in quite a while. All my apps have been fine for over a year now on this Note 8. This only started after the first February "Security" update.
mikeyk101 said:
I agree with that but this is not a new device nor have I done any kind of restore or transfer from an old phone in quite a while. All my apps have been fine for over a year now on this Note 8. This only started after the first February "Security" update.
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Could be that an OS update requires you to install a newer version of the GPS app, which you are currently using
iceepyon said:
Could be that an OS update requires you to install a newer version of the GPS app, which you are currently using
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Im pretty sure that's not the case. My Note is still on Android 9 (Pie) which it has been for almost a year now. It has only gotten security and various minor updates but not any kind of OS update. Note 8 will not be getting Android 10, only security updates. I always update Waze and Google maps anytime an update comes out. I usually update all the other apps at least once a week. The GPS apps that I recently downloaded are the only reason that I am able to access and use my GPS through Waze and Google maps.
mikeyk101 said:
Im pretty sure that's not the case. My Note is still on Android 9 (Pie) which it has been for almost a year now. It has only gotten security and various minor updates but not any kind of OS update. Note 8 will not be getting Android 10, only security updates. I always update Waze and Google maps anytime an update comes out. I usually update all the other apps at least once a week. The GPS apps that I recently downloaded are the only reason that I am able to access and use my GPS through Waze and Google maps.
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That is interesting as I am running Sygic on my Note 8 and it seems to be working just fine. I am rocking the N950N with the latest OS security updates.
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Could be that an OS update requires you to install a newer version of the GPS app, which you are currently using
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I've cleared cache, app data, uninstalled all GPS apps, before re-installing in an unsuccessful attempt to resolve the issue.
I even left the Google Maps "beta testing programme" thinking that a beta copy of the app might have been the issue.
Anonymously_Unknown said:
I've cleared cache, app data, uninstalled all GPS apps, before re-installing in an unsuccessful attempt to resolve the issue.
I even left the Google Maps "beta testing programme" thinking that a beta copy of the app might have been the issue.
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Download the 2 apps I mentioned and run them. You may have to do that every time before using Google Maps but it should get you working. It's just aggravating to have to go through several steps when I should be able to open the main app I want and have it work.
Something weird just happened. I know that a couple days ago to find the location setting, I had to go to settings, Google, Account Services, and I found location there. Tonight just messing around, I noticed that it is no longer there. Instead, it is now found under settings, and then Biometrics and Security. It is down towards the bottom. Not sure how this happened as I have not received any kind of system updates. Also GPS Status app seems to just run in the background. When I open up Waze, it seems to find my location right away. I will have to keep monitoring this and see if the problem has actually been worked out.
mikeyk101 said:
Download the 2 apps I mentioned and run them. You may have to do that every time before using Google Maps but it should get you working. It's just aggravating to have to go through several steps when I should be able to open the main app I want and have it work.
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I've already done this from even before this thread was created, but as you said, it is frustrating for me to have to do this every 10 or so minutes, as GPS stops working quite frequently on my Note 8. GPS was fine with the bone-stock firmware out of the box.
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I've already done this from even before this thread was created, but as you said, it is frustrating for me to have to do this every 10 or so minutes, as GPS stops working quite frequently on my Note 8. GPS was fine with the bone-stock firmware out of the box.
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In GPS Status, did you go into Manage A-GPS State and do the reset and download choices? Also did you try the GPS Fix/Optimizer app and run the Fix GPS?
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t is now found under settings, and then Biometrics and Security. It is down towards the bottom.
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Mine is on the February 1, 2020 security patch, and I have that option there as well. All my permissions are enabled for Location for all apps
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mikeyk101 said:
Also did you try the GPS Fix/Optimizer app and run the Fix GPS?
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Yes, and yes. 10 minutes later, GPS stops working. It works great if I'm driving past WiFi, however.
I can stream YouTube continuously, so I know my LTE connection is active.
mikeyk101 said:
Something weird just happened. I know that a couple days ago to find the location setting, I had to go to settings, Google, Account Services, and I found location there. Tonight just messing around, I noticed that it is no longer there. Instead, it is now found under settings, and then Biometrics and Security. It is down towards the bottom. Not sure how this happened as I have not received any kind of system updates. Also GPS Status app seems to just run in the background. When I open up Waze, it seems to find my location right away. I will have to keep monitoring this and see if the problem has actually been worked out.
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Hey Mikey,
I've noticed that it has improved, but definitely not resolved.
I'm wondering if a factory reset will revert all software updates? I have an appointment tomorrow at the samsung store, and they are going to factory reset and install the most recent software update via their system rather than an OTA which builds upon other updates. I'm backing up my phone now... which in itself is a pain. If not, I did try the GPS fix and the other GPS software, but I did not try them concurrently together, as I found GPS fix to work better. Ultimately though, I didn't think it helped by itself.
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I'm wondering if a factory reset will revert all software updates?
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No.
I'm bumping this back up to the top. One thing I have noticed is that if I haven't used any location type apps such as google maps or Waze in a while and then open up Android Auto in my Chevy, I have a 50/50 shot of the gps actually working. Actually probably less although occasionally it will work right away. When it doesnt, I have to pull the cord out of the phone disconnecting the Chevy from My Note 8 and even if I only open up Waze or google maps after that, it will still not be able to locate my exact position. When this happens, I have opened up GPS status app and the phone gps is definitely not working. I will then open up GPS fix/optimizer and in the bottom left of the home screen, I will toggle the Service Off to Service On. Checking back with GPS Status, within a couple seconds, it shows that the GPS is now working. I can then plug my phone back into my Chevy and Android Auto with either Waze or Google Maps will be working fine for as long as I'm using it.
I originally thought it was a Samsung software issue. Now I'm starting to wonder. If I use Waze or Google Maps as standalone, they seem to work most of the time. It seems to happen mostly using Android Auto first which then opens the navigation software and if I haven't used any apps that call for location recently. I'm stumped...
Looks like I may be on the right track and Android Auto could be the cause of my issues: https://support.google.com/androidauto/thread/17860576
I also found some other info that Adaptive Battery and battery optimization might also have something to do with it. I turned off adaptive battery by going into settings, then device care, then clicked on the battery icon. There are 3 dots in upper right which let you into battery settings. You can turn off adaptive battery there. Next, I went into settings, then apps, and first selected Android Auto. I clicked on the battery choice and then optimize battery usage. There in the top left, I switched from apps not optimized to all. From there I then found Android Auto and turned it off. I then while ein same screen turned off optimization for Maps and Waze. Unfortunately I dont drive that often and now with the VID, I am driving even less so it may be a while before I can verify that this worked.
An update to this. I reached out to the sub forum for Android Auto over on Google Support and got semi confirmation that the problem could actually be coming from Android Auto. One of the explanations given had something to do with Android Auto trying to get info from the vehicles gps device to make it more accurate but it may have problems communicating with the vehicle gps system. I do not have a dedicated navigation in my vehicle so not sure what it is trying to actually connect to so this could partially explain the problem. Why Android Auto would need to connect to any gps device in vehicle is beyond me because for years, my phones have always relied on the in phone GPS and have worked just fine. Here is that thread:
https://support.google.com/androidauto/thread/45792804?hl=en
So I'm having the same issue on an unbranded note 8. But I'm not using android auto. I can use gps tools and it holds a lock fine. But if additional programs are launched, waze, maps, jbv1 I lose lock.