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Didn't see any info about it here, so I figured I would chime in with some initial impressions.
The inductive back is a smooth texture, not crosshatched like the D4 is standard. It is a small distinction that I am sure will fade over time, but for now, it feels too slippery.
The inductive back does increase the thickness of the droid 4, it isn't a lot, but it is probably enough to make some cases not work. I still have to source an otterbox case to see if a) it fits, and b) to see if the case interferes with the inductive charge, I will report back when I find out.
I am at the office, so I cannot actually see how it plays with my energizer qi pad, hopefully it doesn't beep all the time like the verizon one reportedly does.
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gossipninja said:
Didn't see any info about it here, so I figured I would chime in with some initial impressions.
The inductive back is a smooth texture, not crosshatched like the D4 is standard. It is a small distinction that I am sure will fade over time, but for now, it feels too slippery.
The inductive back does increase the thickness of the droid 4, it isn't a lot, but it is probably enough to make some cases not work. I still have to source an otterbox case to see if a) it fits, and b) to see if the case interferes with the inductive charge, I will report back when I find out.
I am at the office, so I cannot actually see how it plays with my energizer qi pad, hopefully it doesn't beep all the time like the verizon one reportedly does.
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Let us know how it works!
And bleh, Verizon charging pad beeps constantly? That... seems silly, to put it politely...
Well I havent used the verizon pad, but that is what I heard, beeps all the time, beep on connect, beep on full, beep on release.
I have had my droid on the energizer pad and it works and there were no beeps.
I like that orientation doesn't seem crucial. I had my phone at different angles and as long as you get the blue light, you are good to go.
I did see a demo where Panasonic made qi charger with a moving coil
youtube.com/watch?v=an7lWob6ZrE
That would rock, as then you don't have to worry about placement (not that that is a huge issue)
Quick update about the charger
I am having some issues, namely the phone will indicate it is charging, the charge pad will indicate it is charging, and yet after hours my battery meter has barely moved. Interestingly enough the phone lasts seems to last quite awhile on 20% battery. I think something is goofy with the battery reporting.
I will likely fully charge the phone over usb and then discharge as normal and see if that "resets" it.
I also worry that on and after you remove the phone from the charge pad the back is INCREDIBLY hot. Hot to the point where I am worrying it is hurting the battery.
Does anyone have the safe temp range for Droid 4 batteries? So I can monitor it.
If things don't sort out this weekend, I will be contacting Motorola about my issues.
I wonder if they will tell you to use the 'official' pad...
Also, you could try downloading Battery Monitor Widget to see what is going on wrt charging and discharging, including (dis)charge rates.
According to Wikipedia, operating temp for Li-ion batteries is up to 158F...however, heat above room temp causes them to lose capacity. The more "full" they are, the more capacity they lose in hot weather. Temps north of 100F in conjunction with a full charge would cause them to lose a third of their capacity in a year. Continuing to charge them past the point where they're full causes them to heat up, and eventually enter thermal runaway, a chain reaction that guarantees they keep heating until they ignite. Modern devices of course are designed to sense that point and stop before it's too late; that's why a multi-cell battery may never reach 100% charge: If one cell is at 100%, the charger stops, leaving the rest at a mere ninety-something.
GEF
well at one point today, i think the phone did overheat and would not turn on for about 20 minutes, the back was quite hot. Since then, I had it fully charge on the inductive pad (energizer qi) and it was not hot and fully charged.
I will be angry if I am told I have to use the VZW pad, what is the point of a standard if they don't follow it?
As far as thermal runaway, the Droid 4 does auto turn off charging when it is full whether on the pad or usb.
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well at one point today, i think the phone did overheat and would not turn on for about 20 minutes, the back was quite hot. Since then, I had it fully charge on the inductive pad (energizer qi) and it was not hot and fully charged.
I will be angry if I am told I have to use the VZW pad, what is the point of a standard if they don't follow it?
As far as thermal runaway, the Droid 4 does auto turn off charging when it is full whether on the pad or usb.
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Wow... You are making me reconsider the induction pad. It sounds great, but if it generates excess heat, that might be a bad tradeoff given the battery isn't replaceable.
Just received mine in the mail this morning! I haven't played around with it too much, just confirmed it works (charged from 90% --> 100%).
I don't know whether I have an updated version or what, but the beep isn't too bad. I would say my dishwasher's beep is louder. I can see it being annoying if it was in a bedroom or something, but for my office (at home) it isn't too bad.
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I still have to source an otterbox case to see if a) it fits, and b) to see if the case interferes with the inductive charge, I will report back when I find out.
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Ever get the Otterbox case to see if it fits with the inductive battery cover?
No I have not found a verizon store that has one I can try on and test with a charging pad.
I know the inductive case makes it a hair thicker so I worry about both fit, and charging.
Droid 4 + Charging Back + OtterBox Does NOT fit
Sorry to jump on someone else's thread, but I have received an Otter Box case for Motorola Droid 4 and I also have the inductive charging back, and with the charging back on the phone, the rear part of the case will NOT FIT.
I have tried the plastic rear case itself without the silicone rubber insert and even that won't fit.
I have left a post with Otterbox support to see if they MIGHT be working on a new case, But, I don't hold out much hope for that.
I have not received my charging pads yet, so I can not say if the Droid 4 can be charged through the case or not.. When I get the pads I'll give it a try and report back.
Exactly how does this work? Does it plug into the usb port, or just replace the original back?
The reason I am asking is my daughter just recently broke the usb port on her Droid 4. I tried to get it fixed at a local computer/cellphone repair center, but they coudln't get the part to fix the port. Today I threw in the towel, and used my insurance.
I was told it just replaced the back, as far as the Verizon rep could tell, it didn't plug into the usb port, but I didn't want to pony up the money for the back, and a mat just to find out I had to replace the phone anyhow.
Contacts are internal
The charging back has 4 contacts on it that connect to the internal connections of the phone.
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Exactly how does this work? Does it plug into the usb port, or just replace the original back?
The reason I am asking is my daughter just recently broke the usb port on her Droid 4. I tried to get it fixed at a local computer/cellphone repair center, but they coudln't get the part to fix the port. Today I threw in the towel, and used my insurance.
I was told it just replaced the back, as far as the Verizon rep could tell, it didn't plug into the usb port, but I didn't want to pony up the money for the back, and a mat just to find out I had to replace the phone anyhow.
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It doesn't use the USB port. That's actually why I got one. I wanted to avoid wear and tear on the USB port.
That being said, I'd see if Verizon would send you a new one? They generally will unless there is evidence of gross abuse...
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It doesn't use the USB port. That's actually why I got one. I wanted to avoid wear and tear on the USB port.
That being said, I'd see if Verizon would send you a new one? They generally will unless there is evidence of gross abuse...
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Thank you both for your replies, but I already used my insurance. I already took it into Verizon to see if they could do anything for us at the store. When the representative that helped us saw that the case around the screen was cracked, he told us if we attempted to use the warranty that Motorola would have said the reason the port no longer worked was from being dropped, even though being dropped had nothing to do with the port coming loose.
She now has a protective case for it, and hopefully keeps it on there, so the warranty can be used if it has port issues like the first one.
I am still thinking about getting her an inductive charge back, to keep wear and tear off the port. She tends to have it plugged in by her bed, and randomly answers texts throughout the night.
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I am still thinking about getting her an inductive charge back, to keep wear and tear off the port. She tends to have it plugged in by her bed, and randomly answers texts throughout the night.
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That's the problem, if you get the inductive charging cover, no current cases will fit. Since there is no possibility of using an extended battery with the Droid 4, the case manufacturers ASSUME that nobody needs a larger case. The inductive cover is not common and therefore is too much of a niche market for anyone to make a case for it. I tried hacking up a regular case but it didn't work out.
hey ive been searching around the net and saw this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986016
if you willing to try it yourself!
inductive cover contacts
Can someone snap some pics of the contacts inside the inductive cover? Made my own out of palm touchstone parts now just need to wire it
Found a picture back on post #14
Did you get it working?
Heres the backround on what i did to get wireless charging going...
1) get palm coil and touchstone. i bought this on ebay for 10$ (just search touchstone charging kit)
2) carefully remove the coil from the back cover of the palm phone. plastic cover first then the rest.
3) what worked easiest for me was to keep all the coil stuff stuck to the removable plastic piece holding everything together, then you can simply stick it in the back of our active covers. (make sure when moving the magnets all the positive sides are facing towards the dock)
4) Connecting it. I tried doing this a couple different ways and i eventually ended up pulling tiny copper wire out of computer speaker cable and used it like a twist tie on the phone terminals (then small amount of electrical tape to separate them...which worked out fine)*I attempted to do the same on the coil side of the connection but that was a bust so i ended up soldering it.. not my first choice but since its on the palm coil not my active I did it.*
5) you should be all good to go at this point
here are some pics too and of course if you some of mess your phone up...its not my fault
Video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvO01b1CKBk
feel free to pm if ya got a question me... I am leaving the country tomorrow night for a week, but ill try to get back to ya
happy modding
in the picture with highlighting yellow goes to left phone terminal(positive) and brown goes to right teminal (negative)
bdgarel said:
Heres the backround on what i did to get wireless charging going...
1) get palm coil and touchstone. i bought this on ebay for 10$ (just search touchstone charging kit)
2) carefully remove the coil from the back cover of the palm phone. plastic cover first then the rest.
3) what worked easiest for me was to keep all the coil stuff stuck to the removable plastic piece holding everything together, then you can simply stick it in the back of our active covers. (make sure when moving the magnets all the positive sides are facing towards the dock)
4) Connecting it. I tried doing this a couple different ways and i eventually ended up pulling tiny copper wire out of computer speaker cable and used it like a twist tie on the phone terminals (then small amount of electrical tape to separate them...which worked out fine)*I attempted to do the same on the coil side of the connection but that was a bust so i ended up soldering it.. not my first choice but since its on the palm coil not my active I did it.*
5) you should be all good to go at this point
here are some pics too and of course if you some of mess your phone up...its not my fault
Video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvO01b1CKBk
feel free to pm if ya got a question me... I am leaving the country tomorrow night for a week, but ill try to get back to ya
happy modding
in the picture with highlighting yellow goes to left phone terminal and brown goes to right
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This video seems very helpful with the process, just wish i knew which side was pos and which is neg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHw1QIPwkZU
EDIT: i see the pics thank that helps!
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This video seems very helpful with the process, just wish i knew which side was pos and which is neg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHw1QIPwkZU
EDIT: i see the pics thank that helps!
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Use a multimeter...if you dont know how, you probably shouldn't attempt this hack and should wait for an aftermarket back plate to come out
Out of curiosity, how strong are these magnets? Am I going to have to make sure that my phone gets nowhere near my credit cards (and other magnetic cards, media, etc.)?
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Out of curiosity, how strong are these magnets? Am I going to have to make sure that my phone gets nowhere near my credit cards (and other magnetic cards, media, etc.)?
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They are fairly strong but I have yet to have any issues with my cards...however I usually keep my phone in a separate pocket
Have you tested the phones waterproof capabilities since you did this mod? I love the idea, want to do it, but im on the fence, as it seems it would make it very easy to make the waterproofing gasket fail with a small wire.... on the other hand, you dont have to take the back off, or open the charging port, so if it doesn't void the waterproofing, it could be even better
Obviously, if any wire or any part of the wireless receiver protrudes over the seal, the water resistance will be compromised, but that's not the only issue.
In the back panel replacement sticker on the back of the S4A, it tells you to press under the camera LED. Pressing there engages the rubber seal. The issue is that any of these non-oem wireless receivers is going to slightly lift the central portion of the back away from the phone. Thus, even if no part of the seal-line is breached, I still wouldn't trust that the seal could engage fully.
Don't get me wrong... I'm going to do something similar, since I'd rather have wireless charging. Still... until an OEM wireless charging backplate comes from Samsung, I'd assume it's an either/or situation. Wireless charging OR water resistance.
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Obviously, if any wire or any part of the wireless receiver protrudes over the seal, the water resistance will be compromised, but that's not the only issue.
In the back panel replacement sticker on the back of the S4A, it tells you to press under the camera LED. Pressing there engages the rubber seal. The issue is that any of these non-oem wireless receivers is going to slightly lift the central portion of the back away from the phone. Thus, even if no part of the seal-line is breached, I still wouldn't trust that the seal could engage fully.
Don't get me wrong... I'm going to do something similar, since I'd rather have wireless charging. Still... until an OEM wireless charging backplate comes from Samsung, I'd assume it's an either/or situation. Wireless charging OR water resistance.
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I will fix the wire issue by using copper tape. I'm excited to try it...
I am doing this mod tonight and I thought I would share some information.
See below for the information I have gathered:
Yellow lines = Copper tape- as you can tell it gets very cramped around the end because of the gasket. I may need to use a different path or wires like the OP. The important stuff to gather from this is which is positive and which is negative on both the phone and the palm pre touchstone.
Nice idea, curious to see how this works out.
Update
My copper tape has not arrived but I installed everything else. It does appear that the coil makes the rear housing push out which leads me to believe it will not do well to repel water away from the seal during extended use but I would prefer wireless charging
If you plan on using a case I would recommend ordering stronger magnets from supermagnets.com part number Disc - D1046. These should work well with any case and it will fit more snug because they are a lot stronger. I will update with photos once the copper tape is installed and everything is working.
Am I missing something? Why doesn't the Samsung wireless charging kit work or the wireless receiver tags you can get for the S4 so you can use a Qi charger?
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Am I missing something? Why doesn't the Samsung wireless charging kit work or the wireless receiver tags you can get for the S4 so you can use a Qi charger?
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The battery door is different. In theory it will work but you would have to figure out a way to gut the back plate and that would be a lot harder than palm's touchstone mod. Or just wait for the active's wireless back plate to be released. This is a lot cheaper IMO $10 vs $30-150
Ya I just realized this. But still do you think the wireless charger receiver tag could work? If you search on Amazon or Ebay "Galaxy S4 wireless charging receiver tag" there's the component which is stuck inside the back cover Samsung is selling. Except it can be bought for $10-20 and most likely can fit in the Active. I don't know because I have the original S4 but just trying to throw out some ideas. In theory if the tag works you can get it for $15 then use any Qi charger and you're good. While not quite as cheap it's only a few bucks more and much easier and looks way better probably. That is if it works of course.
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Ya I just realized this. But still do you think the wireless charger receiver tag could work? If you search on Amazon or Ebay "Galaxy S4 wireless charging receiver tag" there's the component which is stuck inside the back cover Samsung is selling. Except it can be bought for $10-20 and most likely can fit in the Active. I don't know because I have the original S4 but just trying to throw out some ideas. In theory if the tag works you can get it for $15 then use any Qi charger and you're good. While not quite as cheap it's only a few bucks more and much easier and looks way better probably. That is if it works of course.
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that would probably work... if i understand it correctly...
That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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It probably will work but it will cost a lot more than this mod we are talking about. It will be a lot easier to install though
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That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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I went ahead and order this 2, so we will see
joshuadjohnson22 said:
I went ahead and order this 2, so we will see
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Same here. Amazon. 14.99
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Same here. Amazon. 14.99
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I paid a little more because I wanted to get it this week. The cheaper ones come from China and may take a while. I now need a replacement back for my active, somehow with the palm mod one of my clips doesnt work any longer so under my volume rocker it is propped up. Excited to have wireless charging. Hopefully this week
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I've been trying to find out if the magnetic car mounts are harmful or totally safe for a smartphone but every time I find mixed answers, I'm looking for a car mount for my S7 Edge but still can't decide for a great option
Could you guys help? Thanks!
jk373 said:
I've been trying to find out if the magnetic car mounts are harmful or totally safe for a smartphone but every time I find mixed answers, I'm looking for a car mount for my S7 Edge but still can't decide for a great option
Could you guys help? Thanks!
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Most reviews I saw simply mentioned to use with a case. Long time usage *might* be detrimental but quite a few people use them without issue. In the end, it's your call to make.
I have used for all my phones, never had a problem.
If you mean will the magnet damage the phone or your data, then no, they're completely safe. Nothing in a cell phone is stored magnetically. There are no magnetic disks in the phone. Some manufacturers even supply magnetic cases that trigger certain functions when they're closed. Neither RAM, nor ROM, nor LCDs or LEDs are affected by magnetic fields. Well, I might not want to expose it to the kind of magnets they use to pick up whole cars at junkyards, but even that would probably be OK.
jk373 said:
I've been trying to find out if the magnetic car mounts are harmful or totally safe for a smartphone but every time I find mixed answers, I'm looking for a car mount for my S7 Edge but still can't decide for a great option
Could you guys help? Thanks!
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I've been using a magnetic car mount called Magic Mount and it has given me 0 issues.
Using it with a Spigen Neo Hybrid case.
Thanks guys, now I have a better idea
We've been using magnetic mounts for years. The only issue with the S7E is that in order to maintain wireless charging, the metal plate needs to be at the bottom of the phone. This means landscape is impossible and even in portrait the phone may come off the holder in a hard turn. I'm still searching for a wireless charging holder for the car that isn't clunky and doesn't use some form of sure to fail adhesive/suction cups to hold the phone. I'm surprised how bad the selection is and may try to McGiver my own out of a cheap ($5) charging pad.
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We've been using magnetic mounts for years. The only issue with the S7E is that in order to maintain wireless charging, the metal plate needs to be at the bottom of the phone. This means landscape is impossible and even in portrait the phone may come off the holder in a hard turn. I'm still searching for a wireless charging holder for the car that isn't clunky and doesn't use some form of sure to fail adhesive/suction cups to hold the phone. I'm surprised how bad the selection is and may try to McGiver my own out of a cheap ($5) charging pad.
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There's an excellent magnetic fast charge mount hack in this forum.
Best thread in this forum, for creativity and craft. This is what you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3329613
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Installed the metal in the middle on my plastic backing. I have a galaxy s7. I am now having issues with people not hearing me or me not hearing them. This is in the same locations with no issues prior. I read that it could interfere with the magnet on the speaker. Ideas, thoughts?
I wouldn't do it, messed up my s7 edge
jk373 said:
I've been trying to find out if the magnetic car mounts are harmful or totally safe for a smartphone but every time I find mixed answers, I'm looking for a car mount for my S7 Edge but still can't decide for a great option
Could you guys help? Thanks!
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I always used the magnet car mounts with my Note 4 and it was great. I got the S7 edge and after the first day of use the screen would jump around on it's own and the phone was acting crazy. It went back to normal the next day. I tried again using a back plate between the case and phone and I again got the same issue. I didn't want to permanently mess up the phone so I gave up and went with an ugly window mounted option. I'm jealous of those saying they don't have issues with their magnet mounts and S7 edge because they are great. I assume it's something with the metal back on the phone.....
Been using this magnetic thingy for a year and all good so far.
Magnetic car mounts safe for s7?
Ive been using a magnetic car mount for 3 weeks. Yesterday, woke up with phone switched to wifi and would only boot in safe mode. Tried resetting about 20 times. Later, driving home, put phone on car mount and reset again: instantly returned to regular boot up. Does this possibly mean the magnet might cause the mysterious appearance of safe mode? Should i remove the magnet before I fly?
Thanks for any advice
Been using a simple magnetic mount and a Qi charger with magnetic mount for probably a year with no issues. Went back to the older type of mount but nothing that was related to the magnet itself.
Think about this, magnets destroy magnetic media (floppy disks, old hard disks, etc). Phones do not use any sort of magnetic media. Some phones have magnetic switches related to opening of phone covers/cases, and this one probably has one too, since Samsung does make a case for our phone that seems to magnetically activate various features. Also,, I have accidentally walked into MRI scanner rooms with my phone in my pocket, with no issues, and as you can imagine, the magnetic field is strong enough pull in large metal objects such as oxygen tanks and metal carts.
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I always used the magnet car mounts with my Note 4 and it was great. I got the S7 edge and after the first day of use the screen would jump around on it's own and the phone was acting crazy. It went back to normal the next day. I tried again using a back plate between the case and phone and I again got the same issue. I didn't want to permanently mess up the phone so I gave up and went with an ugly window mounted option. I'm jealous of those saying they don't have issues with their magnet mounts and S7 edge because they are great. I assume it's something with the metal back on the phone.....
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Have you tried a different mount ? If its working fine for others and not for you i doubt that its something to do with your particular mount.
I am considering buying an Xperia X because of the Wet finger tracking. My current Samsung doesn't support that, and since I do a bit of lobster and crab fishing, and I use an app (Fishing Points) to note what I get and where I put the pots, I am rather annoied with the Samsung since any drop of water on it will mess up my usage. And trying to dry out a phone in a small boat is kind of annoying. But then I see that the X doesn't support Qi wireless charging, and I have that in my home office, my car, on my motorcycle and next to my bed. Going back to where I have to actually plug in a cable seems so incredibly stone age. So are there any solutions for Qi compatible wireless charging that works on this, and that doesn't compromise waterproofing?
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I am considering buying an Xperia X because of the Wet finger tracking. My current Samsung doesn't support that, and since I do a bit of lobster and crab fishing, and I use an app (Fishing Points) to note what I get and where I put the pots, I am rather annoied with the Samsung since any drop of water on it will mess up my usage. And trying to dry out a phone in a small boat is kind of annoying. But then I see that the X doesn't support Qi wireless charging, and I have that in my home office, my car, on my motorcycle and next to my bed. Going back to where I have to actually plug in a cable seems so incredibly stone age. So are there any solutions for Qi compatible wireless charging that works on this, and that doesn't compromise waterproofing?
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Yes, add a USB receiver.
Thanks, I see that you have that phone! You mean with the flat cable going into the battery bay? I did look into that, but found that it will compromise the waterproof seal. Or is there a way to do it that doesn't?
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Thanks, I see that you have that phone! You mean with the flat cable going into the battery bay? I did look into that, but found that it will compromise the waterproof seal. Or is there a way to do it that doesn't?
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It's a receiver that connects through the USB port of the phone, it do e's not affect any waterproof seal, although you probably need to dry the usb port before charging, this is the same with all phone if it just came out of water.
Thanks! But do you mean that I have to plug that in every time I need to charge the phone and then put it in the Qi charger, or that it's stuck to the outside of the phone? In the first case it's really just another way of plugging in a regular charger...
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Thanks! But do you mean that I have to plug that in every time I need to charge the phone and then put it in the Qi charger, or that it's stuck to the outside of the phone? In the first case it's really just another way of plugging in a regular charger...
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Go to ebay and search for qi receiver, there are many available, although depending which one you get will vary in quality.
Yeah, I've seen those. I'm afraid they will be ripped off in my pocket, I think. So maybe the best bet is two phones and a twin SIM, so I have one for regular use and one for fishing. Or wait until spring and see if Sony gets their act together and actually deliver an expensive phone with the most common wireless charging option.
Just use a case with the receiver, sony knows about qi, they have a offcial qi case for the Z5, but decided not to use qi, and opt for fast charging instead.
Good point, a thin case with the receiver inside would probably be a good solution! Thanks! And Sony didn't think that one through. It makes it less likely that Samsung people, who often have a bunch of QI stuff from their phones, will convert. Fast charging is OK, but I prefer to put the phone into the car holder or on the bedside table and start charging without having to plug anything.
This one could be the right type:
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This one could be the right type:
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nillkin has the best receiver so far if you are in for a USB receiver, unlike the one's sold on ebay, they just use a thin sticker with the circuit in between, the nillkin uses thin plasic, and is very stable, I have the nillkin one for my XP and V20. USB is availabl;e in two version, A and B.
The offcial sony one is pretty thick, not worth buying, but that is for the Z5 only.
Thanks! I'll get that when I change phone, then. But the picture is of a case I can use on the phone, not a receiver.
In case anybody else wants to try this, it works. But not with the pictured case, that creates pressure on the back of the phone which gives color blotches on the screen. So I found my solution in a so called "Slim Rubber Gel Case Cover" and the Nillkin receiver. Problem solved, and it works quite nicely. I rarely need to to connect my phone with the USB, but it's quite easy to pop off the case and remove the receiver.
The one thing that kept me from buying the Samsung rugged case was the disclaimer that it doesn't work with wireless charging. I saw buried within another thread that it does work so I ran over to Best Buy to test it out. Took the case out of the package and used their display wireless charger to test. It works fine. I left it there longer than the youtube video guy, because sometimes it'll say it's charging initially, and then stop charging after a few seconds (longer than he let the phone sit for). I waited to see the actual increase in battery life. Then I made my way to the register with the phone still in the case and paid for it using Samsung Pay. Both worked perfectly. Thought I'd bring this into a separate thread for anyone who's on the fence.
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The one thing that kept me from buying the Samsung rugged case was the disclaimer that it doesn't work with wireless charging. I saw buried within another thread that it does work so I ran over to Best Buy to test it out. Took the case out of the package and used their display wireless charger to test. It works fine. I left it there longer than the youtube video guy, because sometimes it'll say it's charging initially, and then stop charging after a few seconds (longer than he let the phone sit for). I waited to see the actual increase in battery life. Then I made my way to the register with the phone still in the case and paid for it using Samsung Pay. Both worked perfectly. Thought I'd bring this into a separate thread for anyone who's on the fence.
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Awesome, I just picked up with black one at Best Buy this morning. I am used to having the Otterbox Defender case on all my devices but figured I'd try a thinner case and I really like the look of this official Samsung case but I am worried about drops, even though it has this military drop protection. I stumbled across this short video of someone throwing the phone across the room so it should hold up fairly well.
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So what's your trick
First off i think samsung know more about the design of the case then a typical (i use that in air quotes) consumer.
I have TWO samsung convertible fast chargers and the military case from samsung.
I will admit i did not try the phone LAYING DOWN (and I cant test at the moment), but in portrait mode, the charging starts but pauses. Then starts, then pauses. This is standard behavior.
I'm not making this up, Ive literally sat watching it do this just to prove if it can work in my experience.. and it doesn't.
Now.. the Choetech charger I reviewed seems to charge the phone through the case. Perhaps the leather type materials on the samsung charger absorb more energy than just the plastic back on the Choetech.
So I THINK its possible to charge the phone in that style case but its not reliable with the samsung one.
Unless you can give me some pointers on Howe to place it, but then it becomes a chore/hassle.
My daily driver will be the alcantara case so this will be moot for me but its good discussion I nonetheless. :highfive:
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First off i think samsung know more about the design of the case then a typical (i use that in air quotes) consumer.
I have TWO samsung convertible fast chargers and the military case from samsung.
I will admit i did not try the phone LAYING DOWN (and I cant test at the moment), but in portrait mode, the charging starts but pauses. Then starts, then pauses. This is standard behavior.
I'm not making this up, Ive literally sat watching it do this just to prove if it can work in my experience.. and it doesn't.
Now.. the Choetech charger I reviewed seems to charge the phone through the case. Perhaps the leather type materials on the samsung charger absorb more energy than just the plastic back on the Choetech.
So I THINK its possible to charge the phone in that style case but its not reliable with the samsung one.
Unless you can give me some pointers on Howe to place it, but then it becomes a chore/hassle.
My daily driver will be the alcantara case so this will be moot for me but its good discussion I nonetheless. :highfive:
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This is a good point. The chargers on display at Best Buy were the original fast wireless charges (which I have at home) and not the new convertible style. Like I said I put the phone in the case and waited for the actual power to visually increase in both portrait and landscape modes before I went to the register. I'm currently at work and I have a cheap Qi charger that I got from Amazon (also no fabric material on it) and it works fine as well. No special positioning. (I know all about having to place the phone on the charger in just the right spot...and then wait....since I've used magnetic holders and had to figure a way around the metal plate within the case.)
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The one thing that kept me from buying the Samsung rugged case was the disclaimer that it doesn't work with wireless charging. I saw buried within another thread that it does work so I ran over to Best Buy to test it out. Took the case out of the package and used their display wireless charger to test. It works fine. I left it there longer than the youtube video guy, because sometimes it'll say it's charging initially, and then stop charging after a few seconds (longer than he let the phone sit for). I waited to see the actual increase in battery life. Then I made my way to the register with the phone still in the case and paid for it using Samsung Pay. Both worked perfectly. Thought I'd bring this into a separate thread for anyone who's on the fence.
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My phone in the case would disconnect and reconnect over and over all night long, I noticed this and pulled the Samsung Rugged case off and the phone began charging like usual. I am using last years Fast charger, not this years so I am going to say it DOES NOT work properly with the Samsung Rugged case.
I've been using it for 2 days now with no issues. Maybe it's hit or miss and maybe that's why Samsung made the disclaimer.
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I've been using it for 2 days now with no issues. Maybe it's hit or miss and maybe that's why Samsung made the disclaimer.
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I believe so and it's unfortunate. I went with this case in the hopes it works, so since it doesn't I'm going to return it to Best buy and get the OtterBox Defender since wireless charging won't work on these thick cases might as well have the most protection.
It does not work reliably. Period. Sammy made no problems letting this be known. If you want this style of case and protection, you cant have it all. That's why there are other cases that do work.
Again i have two of these convertible chargers and with the military case on the charging does not work. Pauses, starts, pauses, starts... this is going to be the case for the overwhelming majority. Is it possible that it may work for someone or a small number of people? Its possible but with ther disclaimers that it doesn't work already known, it makes no sense for someone to try to use the case on the charger...
NOW the CHOETECH wireless charger DOES work with the case. I have the charger and confirmed this. It takes not special placement.. just sit it there normally. Its 20 bucks so its a good alternative.
It does not work reliably and stops charging anytime it feels like it. I have tried it with the d slow chargers, fast chargers in both positions and with the new Convertible charger in both positions...all stock OEM Samsung chargers. It starts to work and then fails.
Interestingly, the update released today addressed both camera issues as well as "optimizing wireless charging" so maybe once we get that update things will improve.
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NOW the CHOETECH wireless charger DOES work with the case. I have the charger and confirmed this. It takes not special placement.. just sit it there normally. Its 20 bucks so its a good alternative.
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Link to exact charger?
Here's my review....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...iew-choetech-qi-fast-charge-wireless-t3671199
Hey does anyone know if this case fit the whitestone dome glass screen protector?
Same question
finally ordered with 30% code.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...iew-choetech-qi-fast-charge-wireless-t3671199
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It won't charge through an OtterBox Defender case which sucks, now I really can't use this charger...
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confused?
i didnt test an otterbox, nor did I mention one?
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Link to exact charger?
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Wireless Charger, CHOETECH Type C [Sleep-Friendly] QI Wireless Charging Pad for iPhone 8/8 Plus/X, Samsung Galaxy Note 8, S8, S8 Plus, S6 Edge Plus and Other Qi-Enabled Devices (Adapter Not Included)
I'm sure you found it by now but it works for me without issue with the Rugged case on the note 8. Sorry it wont let me post the link but you can search it up on Amazon.
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I believe so and it's unfortunate. I went with this case in the hopes it works, so since it doesn't I'm going to return it to Best buy and get the OtterBox Defender since wireless charging won't work on these thick cases might as well have the most protection.
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Hi
With this Charger
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-P...8931&sr=1-1&keywords=pulesen+wireless+charger
It also works for me with the Otterbox Defender in portrait mode, but you have to place it correct and you have to use the right power adapter, with the fast charge adapter from Sasmung (EP-TA20EBE) it doens't work but with the ETA-U90EWE from Samsung it works perfect (no fast charging, but this i don't need and want).
It doesn't take much to just take the phone out to charge
I know how convenient it is to charge your phone while it's in the case. However, it's not too much of a hassle to take it out just for a while to charge it. Since Samsung made the disclaimer, I would rather trust that they know what they are talking about and just take the phone out to charge. That way, you get a reliable charge and then put the case back on when it's done. Not a big deal.