Can you still OTA with root? - Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers

Does root break the ability to use OTA? I have unlocked my bootloader and only used the root boot img, other than that, nothing custom (no custom recovery or ROMs yet).
I'm still on .103 (CLT-L09), but I'm hearing of people on .111

I get the message that an OTA update is available, but i am not able to update because I have TWRP. Maybe it would be possible to flash update.zip via TWRP when someone offers a patched version.

Annie the Eagle said:
Does root break the ability to use OTA? I have unlocked my bootloader and only used the root boot img, other than that, nothing custom (no custom recovery or ROMs yet).
I'm still on .103 (CLT-L09), but I'm hearing of people on .111
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I had the same concerns, was on the 106 fw, rooted and bootloader unlocked.
I received the update notification for the 107 fw, accepted the update, system downloaded the OTA and restarted, but was unable to update the OTA, then restart and update notifaction said the phone will download the whole 107 fw not just the OTA file, then restarted and updated successfully, had to re-root it then.
Hope this info is helpful,

In my case this didn't work (received the 120 firmware ota but didn't install with twrp). In a German forum I read you need a no-check recovery. Is there any already available or anybody working on it?
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[q] 14.4.a.0.108 ota

Hi guys i got the OTA update today, just wanted to know will i lose root or recovery or nytn if i update via OTA???
thnx
goldsmit409 said:
Hi guys i got the OTA update today, just wanted to know will i lose root or recovery or nytn if i update via OTA???
thnx
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How big is that OTA update?
Try, if you can flash it it could work and you could actually preserve root, maybe even recovery but in 99% of cases you'll get error.
OTA update can't be flashed on rooted device (but, as I said, there were few times it actually worked if it's small, few mb update)
But this is update from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 so I doubt it'll work.
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funky0308 said:
How big is that OTA update?
Try, if you can flash it it could work and you could actually preserve root, maybe even recovery but in 99% of cases you'll get error.
OTA update can't be flashed on rooted device (but, as I said, there were few times it actually worked if it's small, few mb update)
But this is update from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 so I doubt it'll work.
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OTA updates with root are fine, but you may well lose root, just as you would flashing a FTF or updating via Pccompanion.
The issue with OTA updates is if you have an unlocked bootloader.
gregbradley said:
OTA updates with root are fine, but you may well lose root, just as you would flashing a FTF or updating via Pccompanion.
The issue with OTA updates is if you have an unlocked bootloader.
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That's not correct mate.
Try to downgrade, root and install recovery then try to update via OTA - you'll fail.
Only one or two OTA updates worked on rooted Z1.
I have rooted Z1 with locked bootloader and OTA will always said - error while trying to flash, update your device through pc companion.
I'm 100% certain...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608416
Some updates could be flashed via OTA but in most cases it'll fail..
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funky0308 said:
That's not correct mate.
Try to downgrade, root and install recovery then try to update via OTA - you'll fail.
Only one or two OTA updates worked on rooted Z1.
I have rooted Z1 with locked bootloader and OTA will always said - error while trying to flash, update your device through pc companion.
I'm 100% certain...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608416
Some updates could be flashed via OTA but in most cases it'll fail..
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OK, the few times I tried it I had no problem, but I have only ever done it a couple of times..
It's 154.5 Mb, my bootloader is still locked only my device is rooted so I will go ahead give it a try and see what happens if it fails or I lose the root I can again downgrade and root right?
Yes, but you can also just root the FW anyway
gregbradley said:
Yes, but you can also just root the FW anyway
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How can I do that?
when it completes downloading the update it says could noy verify so i guess it wont update via OTA??
what are my options now?? possibly keeping root?
goldsmit409 said:
when it completes downloading the update it says could noy verify so i guess it wont update via OTA??
what are my options now?? possibly keeping root?
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If you want to update, then download FTF. You will loose root. Or use NUTS pre rooted rom. If you want to root yourself, look over to cross development and use easy root tool v8. Then also download nuts xzdual for locked boot.

Does the latest security patch update stay when you root?

I was wondering what sort of changes take place when you root the G5s Plus. I got several patch updates so far. Will the latest update stay once I root the device? I just want to root the device for now, not install any custom roms.
I received an OTA with an unlocked bootloader so I don't see any reason why you wouldn't with root. This only works with the stock recovery though, if you have TWRP installed I don't think it will work.
William1020000 said:
I received an OTA with an unlocked bootloader so I don't see any reason why you wouldn't with root. This only works with the stock recovery though, if you have TWRP installed I don't think it will work.
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Rooting involves 3 steps. Unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and install Magisk patch. Just unlocked bootloader doesn't mean phone is rooted.
androidman2018 said:
Rooting involves 3 steps. Unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and install Magisk patch. Just unlocked bootloader doesn't mean phone is rooted.
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Unlikely that the OTA will install if you have TWRP and Magisk... I wonder if we can still use Flashfire to flash the OTA and keep recovery and root?

Help with up to date guide to Root

Hi,
Can someone concisely give the most up to date instructions on how to root the P20 Pro
Confused because some people talk about debranding first? Is this necessary if you, like me, just have a generic non-network branded phone?
Also.. Does rooting require twrp?
A bit unclear on if I should use the offical or unofficial twrp methods.
And if so does twrp prevent OTA updates? I was lead to believe that any OTA updates would simply wipe any root and you just have to go through the steps again, but would twrp prevent an OTA update in the first place?
What are the best instructions to root the P20 Pro to keep the OTA updates going (even if you need to reroot after each update).
Thanks heaps in getting through the confusion!
Here you have manual to root in simple 4 steps. You need adb and fastboot on your computer, bootloader unlock code and Magisk from link in post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...de-how-to-root-debrand-remove-retail-t3788326
Does any of the steps,
1/ unlocking the bootloader
2/ debranding
3/ installing TWRP
3/ rooting
Wipe the device?.. I'm assuming yes?
Also. What's the point of debranding?..
I think I'm on a generic P20 Pro that wasn't bought from a carrier - so is that step necessary for me.
Thanks heaps again for the advice - coming over from the Samsung world and maybe I'm so used to the rooting methods there
Also do any of those steps prevent OTA updates?
Or is there somehow to still use OTA updates but simply need to reapply root on every occasion there is ah update?
dgoncalves81 said:
Also do any of those steps prevent OTA updates?
Or is there somehow to still use OTA updates but simply need to reapply root on every occasion there is ah update?
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Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device. The other steps won't.
You need to have TWRP installed in order to be able to flash Magisk (for Root), and no you don't have to rebrand if you don't want to. You'll still be able to receive and download OTAs but if TWRP remains installed on your phone it won't be able to install unless you change back to the stock recovery. However there is methods to update with TWRP and you'll be able to get and install updates quicker than waiting for them to be pushed to you phone. That's the main reason people rebrand because generic European models are getting updates the fastest.
What's your device model and current firmware version from 'About Phone' in settings?
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danifilth4king said:
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device. The other steps won't.
You need to have TWRP installed in order to be able to flash Magisk (for Root), and no you don't have to rebrand if you don't want to. You'll still be able to receive and download OTAs but if TWRP remains installed on your phone it won't be able to install unless you change back to the stock recovery. However there is methods to update with TWRP and you'll be able to get and install updates quicker than waiting for them to be pushed to you phone. That's the main reason people rebrand because generic European models are getting updates the fastest.
What's your device model and current firmware version from 'About Phone' in settings?
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Thanks heaps for the advice - makes sense now!
I'm using the model CLT-L29 on C636 which I think is the Asia Pacific model.. And incidentally just received a OTA upgrade to the 128 firmware
.. So in order to receive OTA updates you simply have to change back to the stock recovery after using TWRP to install magisk and root?
But I imagine every time the OTA update occurs it wipes root?.. Which would mean reinstalling TWRP to regain root and doing the whole process again every time?
dgoncalves81 said:
Thanks heaps for the advice - makes sense now!
I'm using the model CLT-L29 on C636 which I think is the Asia Pacific model.. And incidentally just received a OTA upgrade to the 128 firmware
.. So in order to receive OTA updates you simply have to change back to the stock recovery after using TWRP to install magisk and root?
But I imagine every time the OTA update occurs it wipes root?.. Which would mean reinstalling TWRP to regain root and doing the whole process again every time?
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Yep you got it in one lol
The other option so that you don't have to flash TWRP then back to stock recovery each time is when you receive an OTA is download the same firmware (Full-OTA version) from Firmware Finder - you would just need the update.zip - then using Huawei update extractor you can extract the ramdisk.img Then copy the ramdisk.img to your phone, use Magisk manager to patch it then copy it back to your PC and flash it via fastboot. But I think this is more work than flashing between TWRP & stock recoveries haha

OTA Updates with bootloader unlocked?

Hi guys!
I have a simple question... I have a P10 VTR-L09 rebranded to VTR-L29... After a few month with EMUI i have tested LineageOS from Openkirin.net, but the ROM has to many bugs for me so i get back to EMUI.
Everything worked fine, now i have 8.0.0.374 (C432) on my device, but my bootloader is still UNLOCKED!
Will i receive OTA Updates in the future because i am on StockROM back again or is OTA not working with an unlocked bootloader?
Thx a lot!
OTA shouldn't be a problem with unlocked bootloader WITHOUT root. If you rooted your phone it's not possible to update via OTA.
In fact, you're not able to complete lock the bootloader on Oreo again.
Ok, i have no root, only bootloader unlock, so i will see the next weeks if it works... If not, i have to flash updates via TWRP...
stefan.irmen said:
Ok, i have no root, only bootloader unlock, so i will see the next weeks if it works... If not, i have to flash updates via TWRP...
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Yes, you need to be very patient. Huawei update policy is a miracle, no know really knows when they release updates in which region, there are even different release times for the same model and region
If OTA doesn't work, you can try my guide, tutorial #3 (only works when you got the OTA update)
Yes i know... Before P10 i used some Xiaomi Phones and the community and update policy is awesome! But if you know a little bit of bootloader and TWRP you should be able to handle the most phones i think...
Thx a lot for your help!
Jannomag said:
OTA shouldn't be a problem with unlocked bootloader WITHOUT root. If you rooted your phone it's not possible to update via OTA.
In fact, you're not able to complete lock the bootloader on Oreo again.
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If i unlocked the bootloader and rooted with magisk, then used the remove root option in magisk ,would ota work again?

Latest firmware compilation version

Hello. I have my device rooted and twrp recovery but with stock firmware. I have updates but i dont want to bootloop.
Can you tell me latest compilation number so i search it in firmware databases please? My device is a xt1772 Nicklaus.
I am in same situation, My Owens has Nov 1,2018 security patch firmware, I flashed tTWR recovery and rooted.
Now new firmware NPRS26.58-45-19 comes out with Jan 1, 2019 security patch. How to get it flashed?
min1968 said:
I am in same situation, My Owens has Nov 1,2018 security patch firmware, I flashed tTWR recovery and rooted.
Now new firmware NPRS26.58-45-19 comes out with Jan 1, 2019 security patch. How to get it flashed?
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If you take the OTA then it will bootloop because you have a custom recovery. You have to go back to stock recovery and then take the update. After you update you will have your bootloader locked again and you will have to unlock it earesing all data in the phone. Then again flash twrp and root.
Thats why i wanted the last official firmware so i do it only once since updates are cumulative updates...
If i have no response about it, i will return to stock recovery, take all ota updates. Then unlock bootloader, flash twrp and try to restore at least the data since you cant recover system otherwise you will return to a not updated firmware.
Thats the only thing i think its possible.
Btw i edit the thread because mine is a nicklaus e4 plus version.
Cheers!
rq005 said:
If you take the OTA then it will bootloop because you have a custom recovery. You have to go back to stock recovery and then take the update. After you update you will have your bootloader locked again and you will have to unlock it earesing all data in the phone. Then again flash twrp and root.
Thats why i wanted the last official firmware so i do it only once since updates are cumulative updates...
If i have no response about it, i will return to stock recovery, take all ota updates. Then unlock bootloader, flash twrp and try to restore at least the data since you cant recover system otherwise you will return to a not updated firmware.
Thats the only thing i think its possible.
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Thanks for reply. I think I can find stock recovery in stock firmware package.
However do I need to unroot my phone (which I don't know how to)? or simply leave it rooted as is, do OTA after stock recovery flashed?
Stock recovery then take ota maybe More than one since are cumulative. Then Flash twrp and root again.

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