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Huawei Mobile*has released the Android 7 Nougat update for the P9, P9 Lite and Mate 8 devices. Why they haven't done the same for the P8, P8 Lite and Mate S, this*only leads to one conclusion:
Huawei*only cares about the factory line revenue generation of their P9, P9 Lite and newer devices! All you customers who purchased new P8, P8 Lite and Mate S*a few months back, you can be sure that Huawei*only wants you to buy a newer mobile phones and leave older devices even if they are still sufficient by hardware side.
The hardware requirements for Android Nougat are irrefutably the same as Android Marshmallow.* Where is 18 month software support?
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Huawei Mobile*has released the Android 7 Nougat update for the P9, P9 Lite and Mate 8 devices. Why they haven't done the same for the P8, P8 Lite and Mate S, this*only leads to one conclusion:
Huawei*only cares about the factory line revenue generation of their P9, P9 Lite and newer devices! All you customers who purchased new P8, P8 Lite and Mate S*a few months back, you can be sure that Huawei*only wants you to buy a newer mobile phones and leave older devices even if they are still sufficient by hardware side.
The hardware requirements for Android Nougat are irrefutably the same as Android Marshmallow.* Where is 18 month software support?
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dont bother, Android 7 API is not compatible with P8´s GPU, therefore, its not possible to make it official way, youre loosing your time
00471 said:
dont bother, Android 7 API is not compatible with P8´s GPU, therefore, its not possible to make it official way, youre loosing your time
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I'm the type of guy who always has that type of hope left even tho I know it won't work. But hey it's worth a try.
koki.murati said:
Huawei Mobile*has released the Android 7 Nougat update for the P9, P9 Lite and Mate 8 devices. Why they haven't done the same for the P8, P8 Lite and Mate S, this*only leads to one conclusion:
Huawei*only cares about the factory line revenue generation of their P9, P9 Lite and newer devices! All you customers who purchased new P8, P8 Lite and Mate S*a few months back, you can be sure that Huawei*only wants you to buy a newer mobile phones and leave older devices even if they are still sufficient by hardware side.
The hardware requirements for Android Nougat are irrefutably the same as Android Marshmallow.* Where is 18 month software support?
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If I remember correctly it isn't really Huawei's fault. Google doesn't support the version for P8 because of security issues.
Anyway I wouldn't really looking for the Android 7.0, most of the UI is available in Launchers like Nova and other pars of it doesn't really make much of a difference.
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If I remember correctly it isn't really Huawei's fault. Google doesn't support the version for P8 because of security issues.
Anyway I wouldn't really looking for the Android 7.0, most of the UI is available in Launchers like Nova and other pars of it doesn't really make much of a difference.
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EMUI 5 uses new filesystem format which makes phone faster and makes the phone fast even after a long time of usage becauses it doesnt fragment data, i think it could be noticable in midend phone like P8, shame we wont have it...
00471 said:
EMUI 5 uses new filesystem format which makes phone faster and makes the phone fast even after a long time of usage becauses it doesnt fragment data, i think it could be noticable in midend phone like P8, shame we wont have it...
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Yeah, imo Huawei should've though ahead about their hardware compatibility.
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If I remember correctly it isn't really Huawei's fault. Google doesn't support the version for P8 because of security issues.
Anyway I wouldn't really looking for the Android 7.0, most of the UI is available in Launchers like Nova and other pars of it doesn't really make much of a difference.
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Yeah, imo Huawei should've though ahead about their hardware compatibility.
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im very dissapointed too, next time i will be VERY careful about choosing new smartphone
00471 said:
dont bother, Android 7 API is not compatible with P8´s GPU, therefore, its not possible to make it official way, youre loosing your time
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^ this. It simply won't happen.
Surprisingly the HTC One M8 which is also incompatible with Vulkan, is getting Nougat update in the US.
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Surprisingly the HTC One M8 which is also incompatible with Vulkan, is getting Nougat update in the US.
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Didn't know this.
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Surprisingly the HTC One M8 which is also incompatible with Vulkan, is getting Nougat update in the US.
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i dont know M8 but what i can say is huawei itself comfirmed that model P8 wont get further versions of android except those with security patch, Have HTC ever said that they will never get nougat? i think that even if huawei could bring it to us later, they just wont anymore, they released TOO many new devices since then, if they had to maintain all of them they would get crazy and no profit from that what so ever, if there is any hope is very, very small, and i dont have any anymore
I don't have a P8 but I remember always wanting one due to the awesome design. If developers can port Nougat to My Galaxy S4 then I really don't see why Hauwei can't make an official release for the p8. With 2 year software updates the norm I find this extremely unacceptable. The vulkan requirement is false, for I can run nougat on a S4 (custom ROM) and have no graphical issues at all. Good luck with your petition.
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i dont know M8 but what i can say is huawei itself comfirmed that model P8 wont get further versions of android except those with security patch, Have HTC ever said that they will never get nougat? i think that even if huawei could bring it to us later, they just wont anymore, they released TOO many new devices since then, if they had to maintain all of them they would get crazy and no profit from that what so ever, if there is any hope is very, very small, and i dont have any anymore
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nope, you ain't seeing nougat on p8. we chinese users have been asking huawei since the release of emui 5, and all the answer from them is "no major functional upgrades, but security patches will continue". so stop hoping for official emui 5, and cross your fingers for third-party flavors like lineage. btw based on the status of the cm13 and lineage13 here, lineageos suooprt seems promising.
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nope, you ain't seeing nougat on p8. we chinese users have been asking huawei since the release of emui 5, and all the answer from them is "no major functional upgrades, but security patches will continue". so stop hoping for official emui 5, and cross your fingers for third-party flavors like lineage. btw based on the status of the cm13 and lineage13 here, lineageos suooprt seems promising.
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thats right but autor of this port is not willing to make camera work with the same quality as stock rom, its a huge compromise..
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thats right but autor of this port is not willing to make camera work with the same quality as stock rom, its a huge compromise..
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That's a compromise you have to take. It's the same for almost all phones. My S4 has worse quality but not too bad
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That's a compromise you have to take. It's the same for almost all phones. My S4 has worse quality but not too bad
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thats right, unfortunatelly im not willing to take this compromise, the phone takes fantastic photos and it doesnt pay off just for some extra features that doesnt matter in real life anyway, emui has everything that people could need, awesome battery life, fast ui, great phone manager and the most important for me, pro camera
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thats right, unfortunatelly im not willing to take this compromise, the phone takes fantastic photos and it doesnt pay off just for some extra features that doesnt matter in real life anyway, emui has everything that people could need, awesome battery life, fast ui, great phone manager and the most important for me, pro camera
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If it has everything you need then you don't need emui 5 ?
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If it has everything you need then you don't need emui 5
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well, emui 5 is faster and more beautifull
Whats happen ... with this nougat? Is there any information ?
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Whats happen ... with this nougat? Is there any information ?
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nothing happened and nothing ever will... just get over it people
The 8.1 update will be sick, it'll unlock our NPUs for other apps, give us more scene detections for our cameras, the option to turn off the AI, reportedly the "long exposure shots without a tripod" feature, and many more. Huawei said android 8.1 is "officially compatible with the Mate 10" (4 months ago), which makes me wonder, are we ever getting the update? The phone has been released for quite a while now, and we never got any updates AFAIK. Do you think we will? If you do, why do you say so?
I don't have the answer but yes it could be nice to have an update for it but when ??
IMO wouldn't it be better if we jumped to Android 9? Dev preview is on Chinese mate10 AFAIK. I had a P8, that went from 5.0 to 6. There was a very brief 5.1 with a few fixes. The time they spent on that would have been far better used polishing the 6.0 release.
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IMO wouldn't it be better if we jumped to Android 9? Dev preview is on Chinese mate10 AFAIK. I had a P8, that went from 5.0 to 6. There was a very brief 5.1 with a few fixes. The time they spent on that would have been far better used polishing the 6.0 release.
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If I had to choose I'd pick android P, it's really sick, I'm asking for 8.1 because that's the very least you could ask for, don't set the bar too high because Huawei failed to deliver many times before.
The update is rolling out in China right now, but we will have it a month or two later, maybe...
Huawei promised on stage that the mate 10 (and pro) would be getting Android 8.1 early this year with support for the Android NNAPI that would give developers access to the NPU.
Fast forward, it's almost summer and nothing yet.
When I read the news that the night camera mode would be arriving soon for the Mate 10, I had a little hope that this update would be bundled with the 8.1 update, but it seems that for other regions on FF the night camera update is already showing and no sign of the 8.1.... it's just a June patch with the night camera add-on.
I'm also not holding my breath for a fast Android P release, maybe end this year, beginning of the next year? Anyways after the next Mate launch for sure.
It looks like huawei will have to move to other os, or stop selling their devices in the US, sooner than they expected. Let's hope that this doesn't happen.
Hoping for 8.1 soon and for sure also for Android P in my dream lol
What you mean "dreaming Android P". The device is not a year old and they will for sure drop Android P for Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro. The problem is EMUI.
I will mever buy again a Huawei device, bootloader lock 4 ever and lame updates.
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Huawei promised on stage that the mate 10 (and pro) would be getting Android 8.1 early this year with support for the Android NNAPI that would give developers access to the NPU.
Fast forward, it's almost summer and nothing yet.
When I read the news that the night camera mode would be arriving soon for the Mate 10, I had a little hope that this update would be bundled with the 8.1 update, but it seems that for other regions on FF the night camera update is already showing and no sign of the 8.1.... it's just a June patch with the night camera add-on.
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BLA-L29C636B139 just popped up on FF. Only a June Security patch with no Night Camera add on.
Night camera mode? Isn't this there from the start?
MikeTheGamer said:
Night camera mode? Isn't this there from the start?
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He means night mode for p20 pro with no need of tripod.
Mate the 10 pro be with you
wbrambley said:
IMO wouldn't it be better if we jumped to Android 9? Dev preview is on Chinese mate10 AFAIK. I had a P8, that went from 5.0 to 6. There was a very brief 5.1 with a few fixes. The time they spent on that would have been far better used polishing the 6.0 release.
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He means night mode for p20 pro with no need of tripod.
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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Haha, sorry.
There is a new firmware in FF 145 it has nightshot but the firmware is not approved yet so we gotta wait till it gets approved to install I guess. I am a BLA-L09 C432 user from UK. Just in case any one wanted to know or if it even mattered.
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It looks like huawei will have to move to other os, or stop selling their devices in the US, sooner than they expected. Let's hope that this doesn't happen.
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Even in the rare chance that this could happen
Too bad there is absolutely no market for Huawei devices outside the US
novastar1 said:
Even in the rare chance that this could happen
Too bad there is absolutely no market for Huawei devices outside the US
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I think if they made stock google look or used android one on their device. These phones will sell like hotcakes, also they include all their features that be great. But that's just a dream for now. -_-
145 just arrived on ff with night mode. Unavailable for me yet
136 update with nightmode available on FF but not approved for my firmware, will wait till it is. Sadly, it's still android 8.0. Should I lose more hope because of that?
Pays to read. The 8.1 update does not start until the end of the month, another 2 weeks.
Already using 145. June patch. Night shot better, but not that thing. Anyway, satisfied with this update.
hey...
how i can install emui 10 without beta app !!
i can see any new update for emui 10 now...its bad company..
P20 is scheduled to receive EMUI 10 in March 2020.
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its bad company...
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You are welcome to sell your phone and switch to another brand that rolls our updates faster. Also, let us all know when you find one.
Iphones are good for long software updates. Huawei has a lot of issues with maintaining their new HMS since Trump went full child mode because apparently Huawei spies, even tho a lot of american tech (excluding Apple, i guess) spy on us since the dawn of time.
Emui 10 got rolled out in China for p20 pro, not sure if it is beta or not.
I will be switching (possibly) to an Iphone xs max, because i grew tired of software update issues and all. I really hope i don't get any hate because i want to switch to an apple product. Android is great too, but Google likes to ruin in each update
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P20 is scheduled to receive EMUI 10 in March 2020.
You are welcome to sell your phone and switch to another brand that rolls our updates faster. Also, let us all know when you find one.
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in march 2020 ? lol i will update to beta with unlock bootloder ^_^
You are welocme for your opinion and i will switch to oneplus 7 pro next week :highfive:
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in march 2020 ? lol i will update to beta with unlock bootloder ^_^
You are welocme for your opinion and i will switch to oneplus 7 pro next week :highfive:
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Beta completely locks the bootloader, some people on the forums claimed that, as well as being a permanent lock
The Restless Soul said:
Beta completely locks the bootloader, some people on the forums claimed that, as well as being a permanent lock
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Well what can we do ??
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Well what can we do ??
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Switch to OP7Pro as u mentioned?
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Well what can we do ??
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Simple. If you care about bootloader, go to oneplus or any other brand that allows custom roms. If not, stick to Huawei or go to Apple since it's the only brand who respects old devices(reason the price costs a kidney and a half) . Xiaomi counts too but they update their MIUI, not the android version, as well as oneplus too but uhh, not so sure about them yet.
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Huawei isn't really such a bad company. It's only that they are too lazy to provide after sales support for any sort of device. I get it, Trump issues, Google issues, HMS issues. They should roll out Harmony OS as a beta software from devices that have Kirin 970 and up and let everybody develop apps and all, as well as test the software and allow people to report any sort of bugs. This way, the production of it will be a faster way to finish and polish Harmony OS. Their ego with "We are ready to replace you, Google" just make things worst, to the point where Trump can add a law to restrict all Chinese brands (yes, including Xiaomi and maybe Oneplus) from using Android all together, then everybody would be stuck on Android Q (or lower).
Either way, until Huawei fixes their issues and learns how to coop with the xda community and customers (now they need developers with HMS to develop apps, are we Huawei?), i will stick to Apple's Iphones, because even a 5 years old iphone still gets the latest software ( reason being the services, ofc). This is a lesson to be learned, Huawei. I am not the type of person who cares about bootloader and custom roms, but still, either coop with the community or watch your brand slowly die.
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Switch to OP7Pro as u mentioned?
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no i will take the oneplus 7 pro and stay with p20 pro like a Secondary device if necessary ^_^
Can someone tell me the update policy of realme x2 pro....Like for how many years will it receive updates?
Any x2 pro users out here, could you also share your experience?
How can we know that dude?
The standard is 2 years, but who knows.
Android 11 with realme ui 2.0 is coming in december official post bi realme, also i heard android 12 will also be supported next year
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Android 11 with realme ui 2.0 is coming in december official post bi realme, also i heard android 12 will also be supported next year
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Where did the say that? Did they say December for global (all) devices or just in China?
And Android 12 for x2 pro? Somehow I doubt it, but it would be awesome.
adsubzero said:
Where did the say that? Did they say December for global (all) devices or just in China?
And Android 12 for x2 pro? Somehow I doubt it, but it would be awesome.
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Here you go
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Here you go
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Early access, India only
promised here https://liliputing.com/2021/06/huaweis-3-new-matepad-tablets-run-harmonyos.html
I'm skeptical but that's interesting. I'll have to replace the device anyway this fall (as I need a recent version of Google enterprise services to run on my device) but I suppose it would be nice to have some updates on the P20 Pro if only as a backup device
I already moved on but keeping P20 Pro as backup device (battery replaced). It is very nice form factor, quite light, and camera is still very good even by modern standards. Anyway, will be reading reports of Harmony OS upgrades on P40 with great interest. Not a fan of Huawei UI, but it might be nice to get updates and patches for a 4 year old device
This is good and bad at the same time. On one hand, Huawei has finally adapted a good alternative for android, which means more competition(even if it is a fork). Also we might get Apple-like updates, only time will tell. These updates are opt-in so you are not obligated to use HarmonyOS. On the other hand, you can say goodbye to Google services and any root methods that were possible and not found yet. Huawei"s services are still trash and I fear we won't be able to remove the system apps even with adb. If they pull an ultimatum and allow us to unlock our bootloaders/root our phones.....New OS or not, I am moving to another companies. Maybe Asus/Sony/Xiaomi
Well HarmonyOS really? I don't see a Point Moving to it.. Im more than Happy to use LineageOS 16.0 on it Instead a few Months ago, Well HarmonyOS doesnt Include Google Apps and Kills Root Methods.. well i don't care i will Stick with other Operating Systems on my P20 Pro and will not Go Back to Huawei's Made Software until i will in the Future move to a Different Manufacture (Xiaomi or OnePlus)
In terms of software, I am totally disappointed with Huawei .. also how they Handle the Bootloader Unlock with a code .. Like there is something to hide about EMUI.. sorry but that's ridiculous.
You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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It's the first time I see anyone address the fact Harmony might support GMS. I don't think anyone here was knowingly spreading misinformation, but were rather making reasonable assumptions (I also assumed HarmonyOS wouldn't support GMS, even on my P20). I hope what we see in the video carries over to the final version, it would add a couple of years to the life of the phone
I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Bottom line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Born line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I agree it's still a serviceable phone, but there are a couple of reasons I will need to jump ship. Lack of a major Android update (we'll be 2 versions behind and my employer doesn't let us keep a phone beyond n-1), and lack of security updates. Locking the bootloader midway through the sales cycle for this phone was a big mistake, it would have been one for the ages.
Guys good news. We gonna get HarmonyOS. Except it will be EMUI 12.
https://www.facebook.com/HUAWEICommunityGlobal/posts/3031974087090494
There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
andrei80 said:
There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
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Seeing as we didn't get Android 11 on this phone, I'd be surprised if they provided Android 12. That would be a first, as far as I can tell.
EMUI 12 (beta for now) for older global devices has been confirmed to be Android 10 - based with some bits of HarmonyOS UI code. Nova 9 has been an exception, as it was released with Android 11 - based EMUI 12.x. I highly doubt we will ever get an updated Android 11 - based EMUI 12 on our older devices, when it gets out of Beta.
[EMUI 12] The Taste of HarmonyOS
UPDATE 11/11/2021: EMUI 12 beta program for Mate 40 Pro, P40, P40 Pro, P40 Pro Plus, Mate 30 Pro stared in East Asia and Russia, and now is expanding to some markets in Europe. Download beta app and check if you can participate: https://bit.ly/Bet
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Well, thats mega annoying, had some hope we get a up2date OS once again. Shame on Huawei, after my P20 Pro im done with them for sure too. Not that they restrict Hardware Levels, APIs and so on, but this is too much on top.
Can you record phone calls with this OS?
this morning I received notification that there is update to emui 12.0.0.225, size 4.42GB. downoloading
In Romania too. Not yet on my phone though
not much changed, mostly control center in the shade
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not much changed, mostly control center in the shade
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Yup. I've been using it on my p30pro. Not a spectacular change