Does anyone else find the Huawei P20 Pro's "virtual navigation" to be counter intuitive? The off-screen navigation controls make no logical sense.
Tapping the fingerprint sensor = back button
Holding the fingerprint sensor = home screen
Swiping from right to left across the fingerprint sensor = view open apps
Who designed this? Why is there no ability to customize it to a more logical function?
If it were my choice, this would be how it operates:
Tapping the fingerprint sensor = HOME
Holding the fingerprint sensor = RECENT APPS
Swiping from right to left across the fingerprint sensor = BACK
I feel like this makes much more sense for efficient usage? Does anyone else feel the same?
When I first used it I couldn't get the hang of it. Tried again and gave it a couple of days and once it clicks it's great.
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orangecroc said:
When I first used it I couldn't get the hang of it. Tried again and gave it a couple of days and once it clicks it's great.
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I totally agree with you
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Nice topic, can you use any fingerprint remappers kind of apps, and tell if that fixed the issue or not ?
I tried All In One Gesture but it looks clunky.
I will love to have Gesture across the screen rather than limited to the Button or the Navigation Dock....
I think the default gestures are very nice build. The ones I use more often is the ones that are easiest, and quickest to perform; "back" and "home". And the one I use most seldom is the hardest to do, and thats "recent apps". But I guess we all use our phone in a different manner, so customisation should be allowed.
I don't mind this arrangement but I do miss the ability to quickly double tap recents to open the last app you were using. I used that that a lot..
user4001 said:
I don't mind this arrangement but I do miss the ability to quickly double tap recents to open the last app you were using. I used that that a lot..
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Exactly same issue for me
I use "Back Button" that creates some floating buttons for me on the right side. There you can double click to change to the reason app. Used them on my s8+ when hiding the on screen buttons.
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ketman5001 said:
Nice topic, can you use any fingerprint remappers kind of apps, and tell if that fixed the issue or not ?
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I tried a couple but they all had a very long delay to respond after trying the gestures.
teedawgg said:
I tried a couple but they all had a very long delay to respond after trying the gestures.
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Were nav bar virtual buttons enable when using fingerprint remapper ?
user4001 said:
I don't mind this arrangement but I do miss the ability to quickly double tap recents to open the last app you were using. I used that that a lot..
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Yup. Other than that I find the gestures just fine to use. Don't know why the op has the default assumption that their idea for a setup is more logical. Both are just arbitrary choices at the end of the day, and either setup would take some time to commit to muscle memory.
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Hello guys,
Does anyone know of application which improve single hand operation of the device's large screen?
I have install Lazy Swipe and looking for more. I'm thinking of install Dolphin browser as well because it has activation from the corner which can help with the single hand operation.
Planning to get more gesture control operation on the device too.
One of the thing which is bothering me is the notification bar. I'm surprised Sony didn't include any brightness control on the notification drop down bar nor there is a control for volume.
I don't like using the hardware key as they can get ruined + the casing aint great.
y300owner said:
Hello guys,
Does anyone know of application which improve single hand operation of the device's large screen?
I have install Lazy Swipe and looking for more. I'm thinking of install Dolphin browser as well because it has activation from the corner which can help with the single hand operation.
Planning to get more gesture control operation on the device too.
One of the thing which is bothering me is the notification bar. I'm surprised Sony didn't include any brightness control on the notification drop down bar nor there is a control for volume.
I don't like using the hardware key as they can get ruined + the casing aint great.
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Not really sure how to help you but you can try using Nova launcher coupled with gestures to launch all the application you need.
I have a small hand but I think one hand use is not that tough though.
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Not really sure how to help you but you can try using Nova launcher coupled with gestures to launch all the application you need.
I have a small hand but I think one hand use is not that tough though.
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True but there has to be improvement apps. I found two which are useful, lazy swipe and Zidane Manger, touch assistive
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Is there any way to replace the menu button with a statusbar drop down button? Something like the LG one.
I can lock the screen using shortcuts with the home button, but pulling down the status bar is really hard for my small hands.
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Is there any way to replace the menu button with a statusbar drop down button? Something like the LG one.
I can lock the screen using shortcuts with the home button, but pulling down the status bar is really hard for my small hands.
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You can use launchers which support gesture to do it. But note, it's not global, only occurs when using the launcher.
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Hi,
Recently I noticed that the capacitive buttons response time is slower than the on-screen navigation bar.
When I press any of the buttons on the on-screen navigation bar the response is immediate. On the other hand, when using the capacitive buttons there is always a delay, wich is especially noticeable in the recents button.
This is a really irritating issue since I prefer the capacitive buttons, but now I always notice the delay.
Have you guys noticed this? Do you have a fix?
I'm currently on OxygenOS 3.5.4.
Thanks
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Hi,
Recently I noticed that the capacitive buttons response time is slower than the on-screen navigation bar.
When I press any of the buttons on the on-screen navigation bar the response is immediate. On the other hand, when using the capacitive buttons there is always a delay, wich is especially noticeable in the recents button.
This is a really irritating issue since I prefer the capacitive buttons, but now I always notice the delay.
Have you guys noticed this? Do you have a fix?
I'm currently on OxygenOS 3.5.4.
Thanks
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Is there any action defined for double tap on capacitive buttons ? Might just be becoz of that
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Is there any action defined for double tap on capacitive buttons ? Might just be becoz of that
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You sir, are a genius! :good:
It's a shame tough... I really love the double tap to open the last used app. Maybe It will be better on 7.0 since that's a native feature there.
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You sir, are a genius! :good:
It's a shame tough... I really love the double tap to open the last used app. Maybe It will be better on 7.0 since that's a native feature there.
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Even if it is native, if double tap is defined, the OS must wait for possible second tap after the first one, so delay for second tap.
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Even if it is native, if double tap is defined, the OS must wait for possible second tap after the first one, so delay for second tap.
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Yup totally understand. But the delay here was very noticeable. I have the "double tap to open last app" feature on my Nexus 5, with the 7.1.1 PureNexus ROM, and there is no noticeable delay. The way Nougat implements this feature seems to be different from what OnePlus did on Marshmallow.
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Yup totally understand. But the delay here was very noticeable. I have the "double tap to open last app" feature on my Nexus 5, with the 7.1.1 PureNexus ROM, and there is no noticeable delay. The way Nougat implements this feature seems to be different from what OnePlus did on Marshmallow.
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Native nougat "double tap" is not a typical one. It's a trick. It's basically a single tap which opens recent apps and moves previous app to the front of recent apps stack at the same time so when you hit the key again, recent apps window closes and app that's first in the stack gets to the foreground.
Anyway of doing this?
On Huawei phones this is possible and is a great feature to compliment the slide fingerprint sensor to reveal notifications (which note 8 has).
I have looked for any apps which will make this possible but to no avail.
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It might sound like a useful feature to you, but personally I would worry about accidentally tapping the sensor twice and erasing my notifications. On Samsung phones you just tap the "Clear All" button at the bottom, easy enough really.
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Must admit never had that problem. Once the phone is unlocked, your finger should never head towards the sensor, never mind tap it twice. Lol.
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billu said:
Anyway of doing this?
On Huawei phones this is possible and is a great feature to compliment the slide fingerprint sensor to reveal notifications (which note 8 has).
I have looked for any apps which will make this possible but to no avail.
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In my case my options are either
to ask Bixby...
to show...... Notifications , Quick Tiles etc.
Otherwise if you don't care for Bixby,
with the 3rd party app "bxActions"
you can remap Bixby button
My configuration is
One button press, " go back"
Two buttons presses shows Quick tiles
Long button press, show Notifications etc.
Bottom line
there is other ways, just as convenient.
Good luck
So i use the on screen keys on my P10 but one thing that has been bugging me since i have it is the fingerprint sensor behaving like a home key, is there anyway to disable this? it's annoying when i'm on yt and a touch it unintentional and just goes to my homescreen
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So i use the on screen keys on my P10 but one thing that has been bugging me since i have it is the fingerprint sensor behaving like a home key, is there anyway to disable this? it's annoying when i'm on yt and a touch it unintentional and just goes to my homescreen
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Are you sure it is not an app that is causing this?
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Are you sure it is not an app that is causing this?
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yeah I don't have any app that uses my fingerprint scanner except to log into PayPal
Its a global bug, i have it too
I really hate this too. I use the fingerprint sensor everywhere possible and this is really, REALLY getting on my nerves. I'd go back to my own Xperia Z5 if this wouldn't be what my employer got me. The Z5 actually has a very, VERY good power/lock button with a fingerprint sensor that actually is usable for something else than screen unlocking. I've used Xperia's for years and after a few weeks I'm really starting to miss my Z5 - mostly because of this. And full waterproofing, covered by warranty.
Is it too hard to add a setting to disable the button completely to use it ONLY as a figerprint sensor? I want to use the default Android navigation bar, not some unique gesture thing. At least Sony's Android has been very conservative for years but this thing is like any Samsung with tons of bloatware and this crappy and useless fingerprint sensor acting as a home button unless you touch it just gently enough. And I'm forced to use this for work. AaaAAaarrgGgh!
Edit: And I have the P20 instead of the P10.
Same gripe here. I downgraded to Nougat and the bug is still there. Very annoying.
Bump. Anyone has a solution for this? (Other than flashing a trevle rom)
I have this problem too. So annoying?
Only solution is t use the offscreen navigation buttons. Then the fingerprint button functions well.
Press once is 1 step back, long press is home.
Swipe over the button to see active programs and change or close them.
When u are used to it, u don't wanna go back.
I found a solution. Install this specific app, enable it, then set all actions to "none".
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.superthomaslab.fingerprintgestures
My parents just called. I got them a Huawei Tablet. They asked me if they could still return it because of this annoying behaviour.
Will try the app that was mentioned. Thanks
I was ao excited for Android 9 but right after updating to EMUI 9, I was disappointed to see how pathetic and useless is back button gestures, especially when you are on a keyboard screen. Is it just me or you guys think so too?
1) it is difficult to get used to this stupif "back" gesture.
2) it is slow.
3) No quick switching between 2 apps instantly?
Will they fix it in future updates or we are stuck with this forever?
I have to agree on this issue. Gestures on EMUI 9 are really bad. I've stayed with "button bellow screen" gestures.
1. It is really difficult to use "back" gesture especially when using any kind of phone case.
2. Using "back to homescreen" gesture firstly shows recent apps and then moves to homescreen ...
3. No quick switch between 2 apps - that's truly bad.
4. Missing gesture to move "left <-> right" in recent menu with a finger
2. No. I does take you directly to home screen, by swiping up without any pause. (If I understand your issue correctly)
4. Thanks for reminding me that.
5. Keyboard is at such low bottom, it becomes difficult to type (sometime).
I wish they could have copy pasted Apple's gesture. Easy life!
I like them very much actually...
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swati004 said:
2. No. I does take you directly to home screen, by swiping up without any pause. (If I understand your issue correctly)
4. Thanks for reminding me that.
5. Keyboard is at such low bottom, it becomes difficult to type (sometime).
I wish they could have copy pasted Apple's gesture. Easy life!
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In pie EMUI9 is it still SwiftKey? If I remember well you can resize and move keyboard in settings SwiftKey.
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FluidNG is your friend:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fb.fluid
I'm not running under pie EMUI9 yet and I use
Nova launcher
Fluid ng
It work awesome. All I miss is switching between app like on ios or zuk z2 pro ui with finger print front. Sad EMUI 9 doesn't have a such function.
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swati004 said:
2. No. I does take you directly to home screen, by swiping up without any pause. (If I understand your issue correctly)
4. Thanks for reminding me that.
5. Keyboard is at such low bottom, it becomes difficult to type (sometime).
I wish they could have copy pasted Apple's gesture. Easy life!
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You can use Google indic keyboard. it might be helpful.
What is that icon when I swipe the bottom right?
rheckr said:
2. Using "back to homescreen" gesture firstly shows recent apps and then moves to homescreen ...
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This only happens when using a 3rd party launcher.
JR-P20PRO said:
What is that icon when I swipe the bottom right?
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Google assistant?
forever_lol said:
Google assistant?
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It activates Google assistant but I didnt think that was the icon for it
JR-P20PRO said:
It activates Google assistant but I didnt think that was the icon for it
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Well since it's displayed only in this particular situation so i guess it must be it.
krixoff said:
In pie EMUI9 is it still SwiftKey? If I remember well you can resize and move keyboard in settings SwiftKey.
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YES! But I am not talking about keys on top rather KEYS on the buttom. Like SPACE key and other buttons are so close to the bottom end. Apple has a better Implementation (by sliding down the emoji icons etc). Don't you think?
P.S: I'm on Gboard.
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YES! But I am not talking about keys on top rather KEYS on the buttom. Like SPACE key and other buttons are so close to the bottom end. Apple has a better Implementation (by sliding down the emoji icons etc). Don't you think?
P.S: I'm on Gboard.
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Oh OK can't help you I m using SwiftKey.
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What is that icon when I swipe the bottom right?
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Hi! That is google assistant.
Hmmm the new gestures are a bit tricky aren't they but I quite like them so I'll persevere a bit, else there's plenty of other navigation methods to choose from.
People says the gestures don't work that well when using Nova Launcher.
Anyway, you should try Fluid Navigation Gestures, you can customize it as you wish!
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rheckr said:
I've stayed with "button bellow screen" gestures.
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In my opinion, if there is anything this front mounted fingerprint reader/home button is good for it's the "off-screen navigation key" - removes unnecessary icons from the screen making it cleaner and works like a charm. Using it since day 1 with this phone and prefer it over the new gestures.
I can't say the new gestures are really bad, I believe one can get used to them, although the swipe right/left for "back" is tricky if you are using a bulky case (Otterbox etc.)
I'm using Nova Launcher and the Pie gestures are broken. It always shows the recent apps first when exiting from an app. That should really be fixed...