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What is the latest stock status of LG V40?
(a pure stock device that has never been rooted, never custom rommed, and updated only trough OTA)
I mean:
- which version of Android does it have?
- what is the latest security patch? ex. March 2019?
- is the user interface just like in V30 with Android 8? (a user interface is like in samsung - TouchWizz, SamsungExperiance, One UI)
- was there ever a change of user interface?
Untouched, pure stock, updated on Verizon, in the US. Whatever launcher comes next, I'm sticking with Nova!
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Untouched, pure stock, updated on Verizon, in the US. Whatever launcher comes next, I'm sticking with Nova! View attachment 4735851
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But can You tell me is it the same user interface as in V30 Oreo? How to check it?
androidbadboy said:
But can You tell me is it the same user interface as in V30 Oreo? How to check it?
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I think youtube reviews would give you a good idea and you can compare yourself by watching it.
Many people here may not have had v30 before.
I dare say, most likely. I never gave it a try, though. Nova a long favorite!
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Not the same as V30. Same as the G7. LG UX 7.0.
Different icons, theme, and upgraded stock apps.
onslaught86 said:
Not the same as V30. Same as the G7. LG UX 7.0.
Different icons, theme, and upgraded stock apps.
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1. The V30 and V40 user interface is called Nova?
2. I like V30 for NOT being flooded with a lot of options. I like auto everything or minimum settings/options. Is V40 in that way closer to V30 (which has little options) or does it have huge amount of thiungs that can be set? (maybe how much more #)
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Not the same as V30. Same as the G7. LG UX 7.0.
Different icons, theme, and upgraded stock apps.
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Lg g8 has ux 8.0 and skin is very beautiful
androidbadboy said:
THANK YOU ALL FOR REPLY - ALL GET 1+ THANKS
1. The V30 and V40 user interface is called Nova?
2. I like V30 for NOT being flooded with a lot of options. I like auto everything or minimum settings/options. Is V40 in that way closer to V30 (which has little options) or does it have huge amount of thiungs that can be set? (maybe how much more #)
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It's still just called LG UX in official documentation.
LG haven't pulled a Samsung or a Huawei. The V40/G7 software really only differs from the V30 in small ways, like the icon pack/theme and upgraded stock apps I mentioned. There are more options for the AoD including a colour picker (which has since been delivered to the V30 with an update in January 2019), the notch background options, the Knock Code entry field is bigger, the wallpaper settings are easier to access, and there's a revamped swipe-up app drawer option. I am a big fan of LG's UX. You won't be missing anything in software from the V30, and what is new is welcome. Themes can now enable the Google Feed if that's of interest.
The new Pie-based UX on the G8 series is nice too.
All phones need taming, no matter the brand, but I find there are fewer steps to get an LG device the way I like it than the myriad of should-be-on-by-default/should-be-off-by-default settings in Samsung/Huawei/Xiaomi et al. For some reason (likely the same reasons Samsung has for doing it) the V40 is set to FHD+ out of the box but that's about it over the V30.
onslaught86 said:
It's still just called LG UX in official documentation.
LG haven't pulled a Samsung or a Huawei. The V40/G7 software really only differs from the V30 in small ways, like the icon pack/theme and upgraded stock apps I mentioned. There are more options for the AoD including a colour picker (which has since been delivered to the V30 with an update in January 2019), the notch background options, the Knock Code entry field is bigger, the wallpaper settings are easier to access, and there's a revamped swipe-up app drawer option. I am a big fan of LG's UX. You won't be missing anything in software from the V30, and what is new is welcome. Themes can now enable the Google Feed if that's of interest.
The new Pie-based UX on the G8 series is nice too.
All phones need taming, no matter the brand, but I find there are fewer steps to get an LG device the way I like it than the myriad of should-be-on-by-default/should-be-off-by-default settings in Samsung/Huawei/Xiaomi et al. For some reason (likely the same reasons Samsung has for doing it) the V40 is set to FHD+ out of the box but that's about it over the V30.
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+1 Thanks TO BOTH
My English is bad so please forgive me if I ask when You mention Samsung/Huawei/Xiaomi do You have on Your mind the tons of options a user has to set in a new phone?
androidbadboy said:
+1 Thanks TO BOTH
My English is bad so please forgive me if I ask when You mention Samsung/Huawei/Xiaomi do You have on Your mind the tons of options a user has to set in a new phone?
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Yes.
There is a difference between many settings that can be changed if you like (choice) and many settings that must be changed for a good experience (design).
The location of those settings and the ease with which they are changed matter also - sometimes a key setting is four or five menus deep on other brands. Samsung used to be bad at this and have improved, Huawei are now the worst offender. System-wide dark mode on Huawei OLED devices is called "Darken interface colours" under settings/battery for example.
For LG the most useful hidden features are rearranging/adding to the navigation buttons, and changing the "swipe to search" on the homescreen from slow "personal" results to fast "full Google search" but Google have broken this last one in their redesign to the Google app.
onslaught86 said:
Yes.
There is a difference between many settings that can be changed if you like (choice) and many settings that must be changed for a good experience (design).
The location of those settings and the ease with which they are changed matter also - sometimes a key setting is four or five menus deep on other brands. Samsung used to be bad at this and have improved, Huawei are now the worst offender. System-wide dark mode on Huawei OLED devices is called "Darken interface colours" under settings/battery for example.
For LG the most useful hidden features are rearranging/adding to the navigation buttons, and changing the "swipe to search" on the homescreen from slow "personal" results to fast "full Google search" but Google have broken this last one in their redesign to the Google app.
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Thanks again,
so may I ask a bold question like...... Is LG the best at producing simple-settings phones in terms of amount, deep, ease etc. Which other brand is close to LG in the simpleness (excluding Iphone of course)?
androidbadboy said:
Thanks again,
so may I ask a bold question like...... Is LG the best at producing simple-settings phones in terms of amount, deep, ease etc. Which other brand is close to LG in the simpleness (excluding Iphone of course)?
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No, but I don't think there is an objective best at this.
Everyone's needs and preferences are different. What works for you may not work for me, what is simple and easy for you may be complex and frustrating for me. Thankfully the market for smartphones is diverse and competitive, there is a lot of choice.
Evaluating smartphones and their software is part of my work. LG offers me the combination of features and hardware I find most pleasing and useful. Others have their strengths too.
If your priority is as few settings as possible, take a look at Moto/Nokia/Pixel/other vanilla derivatives or iOS. All phones can be used straight out of the box, it is up to you whether that experience is one you prefer or enjoy - Google Photos as the only gallery app for example. LG offers a feature-complete experience similar to Samsung and Huawei, it's just less intrusive and gets out of the way.
Meizu's Flyme and Oppo's ColorOS are simplified. Unfortunately they deviate so far from Android conventions that they are unpleasant to use as features do not work as expected or have been removed entirely.
onslaught86 said:
No, but I don't think there is an objective best at this.
Everyone's needs and preferences are different. What works for you may not work for me, what is simple and easy for you may be complex and frustrating for me. Thankfully the market for smartphones is diverse and competitive, there is a lot of choice.
Evaluating smartphones and their software is part of my work. LG offers me the combination of features and hardware I find most pleasing and useful. Others have their strengths too.
If your priority is as few settings as possible, take a look at Moto/Nokia/Pixel/other vanilla derivatives or iOS. All phones can be used straight out of the box, it is up to you whether that experience is one you prefer or enjoy - Google Photos as the only gallery app for example. LG offers a feature-complete experience similar to Samsung and Huawei, it's just less intrusive and gets out of the way.
Meizu's Flyme and Oppo's ColorOS are simplified. Unfortunately they deviate so far from Android conventions that they are unpleasant to use as features do not work as expected or have been removed entirely.
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1. "Moto/Nokia/Pixel/" - You mean Andoid One phones?
2. "other vanilla derivatives" - what does it mean? what is vanilla?
3. Perhaps I forgot to mention that iOS is out of the question for me.
Oneplus 3T got first beta of PIE..... ONEPLUS 3T..... And we are here with the phone that they stop carrying about months after release and released new bunch of phones already like v40 never happened. I'm disappointed.
Probably brought the Droid curse with me, when I crossed over into LG. Sorry, folks. [emoji53]
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twoxa said:
Oneplus 3T got first beta of PIE..... ONEPLUS 3T..... And we are here with the phone that they stop carrying about months after release and released new bunch of phones already like v40 never happened. I'm disappointed.
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Excuse me dude, but what the heck are You trying to say My English is bad - sorry.
androidbadboy said:
1. "Moto/Nokia/Pixel/" - You mean Andoid One phones?
2. "other vanilla derivatives" - what does it mean? what is vanilla?
3. Perhaps I forgot to mention that iOS is out of the question for me.
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Not Android One specifically. There is no such thing as 'pure' Android anymore and never really was, they are all slightly different even between Android One-branded devices. Pixel Android is different from Moto Android is different from Nokia Android. Instead you can group different versions of Android together to get an idea of what they have in common. Moto, Google, and Nokia are all very similar, more in common than not. Vanilla. Bare bones, you need to download a lot of third party apps to get the functionality that's present out of the box from others. If you want fewer options, these are the ones to go for. However, you may find yourself missing some features or apps if you're used to other brands.
Sony and OnePlus are similar as well but they have additional out of box functionality, like dedicated gallery apps instead of just Google Photos.
Then there are the more feature-complete experiences. Samsung, Huawei, LG, Xiaomi. Everything you need out of the box, just add the core third party apps. Can customise more if you need to. Lots of features but they're optional. You get a complete package. This is what most people who aren't smartphone enthusiasts prefer.
Lastly there are the wildly divergent versions like ColorOS and Flyme. Xiaomi's MIUI, Samsung's One UI, and Huawei's EMUI are also quite far removed from the more vanilla versions, but Oppo's ColorOS and Meizu's Flyme are a step beyond. This is because of the Great Firewall in China, all Google services are blocked and local equivalents exist to replace them, along with other localised features relevant to that market. Xiaomi and Huawei do a good job of making a global version that behaves more like other global Android phones, Oppo and Meizu not so much. ColorOS and Flyme will not behave as expected and break/change some basic elements like the way notifications work.
I like LG for the unique features and because it gets out of the way. Samsung's software is full of dark patterns designed to lock you in, and still has lots of questionable functions like Bixby and a Places feature in the dialer. Huawei's is good, but it has gone backwards in the last version. OnePlus is good, Xiaomi is good, both have a lot of options and OnePlus is better 'out of the box'. What you prefer will depend on your specific needs and preferences.
onslaught86 said:
Not Android One specifically. There is no such thing as 'pure' Android anymore and never really was, they are all slightly different even between Android One-branded devices. Pixel Android is different from Moto Android is different from Nokia Android. Instead you can group different versions of Android together to get an idea of what they have in common. Moto, Google, and Nokia are all very similar, more in common than not. Vanilla. Bare bones, you need to download a lot of third party apps to get the functionality that's present out of the box from others. If you want fewer options, these are the ones to go for. However, you may find yourself missing some features or apps if you're used to other brands.
Sony and OnePlus are similar as well but they have additional out of box functionality, like dedicated gallery apps instead of just Google Photos.
Then there are the more feature-complete experiences. Samsung, Huawei, LG, Xiaomi. Everything you need out of the box, just add the core third party apps. Can customise more if you need to. Lots of features but they're optional. You get a complete package. This is what most people who aren't smartphone enthusiasts prefer.
Lastly there are the wildly divergent versions like ColorOS and Flyme. Xiaomi's MIUI, Samsung's One UI, and Huawei's EMUI are also quite far removed from the more vanilla versions, but Oppo's ColorOS and Meizu's Flyme are a step beyond. This is because of the Great Firewall in China, all Google services are blocked and local equivalents exist to replace them, along with other localised features relevant to that market. Xiaomi and Huawei do a good job of making a global version that behaves more like other global Android phones, Oppo and Meizu not so much. ColorOS and Flyme will not behave as expected and break/change some basic elements like the way notifications work.
I like LG for the unique features and because it gets out of the way. Samsung's software is full of dark patterns designed to lock you in, and still has lots of questionable functions like Bixby and a Places feature in the dialer. Huawei's is good, but it has gone backwards in the last version. OnePlus is good, Xiaomi is good, both have a lot of options and OnePlus is better 'out of the box'. What you prefer will depend on your specific needs and preferences.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An overwhelming reply, fully loaded with info
+1 THANK YOU!!!!
1. I can see in Your sig that You've gone trough pretty much every major category of mobile devices.
2. Did You enjoy IPhones? Why did You abandon them since you' were upgrading to newer hardware versions?
3. What is that vanilla?
4. Can You share your opinon, pros and cons of Huawei Mate 20 Pro cause I read everywhere that it is the best phone right now and it hasn't got any bad opinions?
5. What is it in LG V40 that makes You stay with that phone?
6. I have a huge problem with LG V30, I have left only 3 days to test it. Please give me advice what shall I test to make a final decision: staying with the device or not?
7. Thank You for being here with us
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An overwhelming reply, fully loaded with info
+1 THANK YOU!!!!
1. I can see in Your sig that You've gone trough pretty much every major category of mobile devices.
2. Did You enjoy IPhones? Why did You abandon them since you' were upgrading to newer hardware versions?
3. What is that vanilla?
4. Can You share your opinon, pros and cons of Huawei Mate 20 Pro cause I read everywhere that it is the best phone right now and it hasn't got any bad opinions?
5. What is it in LG V40 that makes You stay with that phone?
6. I have a huge problem with LG V30, I have left only 3 days to test it. Please give me advice what shall I test to make a final decision: staying with the device or not?
7. Thank You for being here with us
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Happy to help. I work in the industry and am always interested in sharing what I can.
I have used many more phones than are listed in my signature, those are just the ones I have personally owned and used as daily drivers for long periods of time. It may not be up to date, I jumped from V30 to Mate 20 Pro and now to V40.
On iPhones: After Samsung's poor optimisation of software for the large screens of Galaxy Notes + apps of the time being poorly optimised for large screens as well, Apple finally made an iPhone that was large enough for my needs in the 6 Plus. I have owned 6 Plus, 6s Plus, 7 Plus, and 8 Plus, and I have spent enough time with the X/XS Max/XR to know they are not for me. The grass was not greener, just different.
iPhones and iOS are fine. They are functional and reliable, good at doing what things iOS is set up to do well. They are a good choice for people who do not want to spend too much time thinking about or researching their phones, which is fair. iOS is not set up to do many other things well, and both hardware and software iterate slowly. Web browsing is a great example. Apple's professors are exceptionally good and the browsing experience in Safari is very fast and enjoyable, however Safari itself has a dated UI/UX that lags far behind equivalents on Android like Samsung's internet browser. You can use other browsers on iOS, but they are crippled in comparison to Safari, and offer a poor experience - you still cannot set default apps either. Third party keyboards are a mess. Apple's cameras have been left far behind their competition. Their industrial design is dated and inelegant. There are benefits to being in Apple's ecosystem, but the drawbacks are too many, and most notably, the price of entry is far too high. It is not worth it for what you get, especially if you're outside the US and iMessage is meaningless + there are much higher prices and zero warranty/service differentiation.
Google updates core Android apps all the time. Apple updates core iOS apps very slowly. For all the press Apple get for iOS updates, they are slow to make meaningful changes. When there is a major bug, it is difficult or impossible to fix yourself or roll back, you must wait for Apple to patch in weeks or months or longer. iOS 11 was a disaster and ruined my 7 Plus.
I may return to iOS if it gets the massive overhaul it sorely needs, especially to the home screen/launcher experience, and finally gets haptic feedback in the keyboard (Gboard on iOS has just added haptics, although they are poor). I left because Apple has been left behind. It is a good platform, you just need to know what you're getting into.
Vanilla = plain, basic, default. The closest you can buy on a commercial device to AOSP. Now that Google has abstracted so much of Android into Google Services, the base version of Android matters less than ever before, and the vast majority of innovation has been in 'skins' for the last 2-3+ years.
I enjoy and recommend the Mate 20 Pro. It has excellent battery life, ridiculously fast 40W charging that can change how you use a phone (no need to charge overnight when it goes from 30% to 75% in under 15mins), and some very clever camera tricks. The automatic portrait mode is one of the best features, there is no need to manually select portrait mode as the camera will jump straight to portrait by itself when it detects a face. Speaking of faces, Mate 20 Pro has real 3D face unlock, very welcome as I cannot stand the slow and poor under-screen fingerprint sensors (including the Mate 20 Pro's). Kirin 980 is an excellent chipset too. The Mate 20 Pro was the only thing which made me shift from the V30, which remains my favourite phone I've ever used, finally displacing the HTC HD2.
The problems with the Mate 20 Pro for me lie firstly in software - EMUI 9 is not as good or polished as EMUI 5/8, with bugs and jank, and it has now been locked down considerably. First by the region of the unit you buy, and then further by the SIM card inserted. This will determine what software builds you receive and when. It can also break things if you travel and put a different SIM in and receive an update which clashes with the region software to break CTS/SafetyNet/Google Pay. EMUI 9.1 on the P30 series fixes many issues, although it is uncertain if or when this will come to the Mate 20 Pro. You cannot easily switch regions or rebrand either.
In hardware, the screen is not the best, and critically for my needs the haptic feedback is very poor. I spend a lot of time writing email and the like from my phone as it is a work tool as well, and having been spoiled by the advanced haptics in the V30 and several Meizu phones, anything else is bad in comparison. I don't like Samsung's haptics either, and Apple's aren't used in the keyboard. LG's haptics are incredible, and integrating them throughout the UI/UX makes their phones delightful to use.
I missed several other features of the V30, including the excellent Always On Display, the seven-icon dock, double tap to sleep/wake, the thin/light design, the Quad DAC, and the manual camera. The V40 is really only a minor improvement over the V30, with a better/taller screen, boombox speaker, better cameras with telephoto, additional front camera, and SD845. Battery life is thankfully still very good, the haptics are still brilliant. I feel the V30's ergonomics were better than the V40's. The V30 is amazing and should go down in history as one of the most underrated phones to date.
I have specifically chosen the V40 as it delivers several key features that the Mate 20 Pro did not.
As for what else you should test out, that depends what you've tried so far and what you're looking for. How long you will use and keep your phone, and what your budget is, and what is available for you to buy. The V30 is great. The V40 is the V30 with a few improvements. The V50 launches in Korea this month and I would sorely like to own one as it has 855, 4000mAh battery, and LG UX with Pie out of the box - although the larger battery will make it much heavier.
The LG G8s is coming, and I like it more than the smaller G8. OnePlus will have something new soon for sure. Huawei's P30 Pro is compelling, although I prefer Mate 20 Pro for 1440p and 3D face unlock. Xiaomi are good and cheap. Moto are doing interesting things this year. Maybe the Galaxy Note 10 will be good. Etc etc. There is always something new on the horizon.
Right now I'm using OP5T. Thought of buying 6T but after looking at the vivo nex, I've attracted by it's design. BBK is a brand which owns the Vivo, Oneplus and Oppo. And the launch of OP7 is just weeks away with the design which I was expecting it to be. And I'm a guy who doesn't like selfies not gonna use the popup camera a lot so no worries about the mechanical part in my phone.
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Right now I'm using OP5T. Thought of buying 6T but after looking at the vivo nex, I've attracted by it's design. BBK is a brand which owns the Vivo, Oneplus and Oppo. And the launch of OP7 is just weeks away with the design which I was expecting it to be. And I'm a guy who doesn't like selfies not gonna use the popup camera a lot so no worries about the mechanical part in my phone.
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If you don't bother the pop-up cameras, On previous itself you can go with vivo nex or Oppo find X. why you should wait for OP 7 pro.
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Right now I'm using OP5T. Thought of buying 6T but after looking at the vivo nex, I've attracted by it's design. BBK is a brand which owns the Vivo, Oneplus and Oppo. And the launch of OP7 is just weeks away with the design which I was expecting it to be. And I'm a guy who doesn't like selfies not gonna use the popup camera a lot so no worries about the mechanical part in my phone.
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I'm a user that came from the 6T to the NEX S Global. It's a great phone, gorgeous if you ask, however 1+'s OS is way better and VIVO's update is really slow, also you can't unlock the bootloader. We're still on Android 8.1 while the chinese version is already on Pie.
It's a great phone, I really enjoy it, but I'll probably go the 7 Pro because I'm afraid how VIVO will handle future updates.
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If you don't bother the pop-up cameras, On previous itself you can go with vivo nex or Oppo find X. why you should wait for OP 7 pro.
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The OS of Oppo and Vivo is ****.
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The OS of Oppo and Vivo is ****.
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An Oxygen OS from Oneplus, you can get a smooth Android experience. And Still you can experience the stock android with some additional features in Oxygen OS. I never used that Color OS and all.
I'm a user both Vivo Nex S from last summer and 2.5 months I'm owed also Dual display as well.
Chinese version both of them.
I'm really enjoying both phones never bothered me ios style Funtouch and I really appreciate many features and customization option offer natively that Oxygen does not offer.
With Pie Vivo offer much more customization with AOD that Oxygen not ever had.
Also maintain battery saver mode with location while oxygen removed badly that option.
Also Vivo offers saperate notification sound alarm from ringing soung alarm very convenient and useful feature always appreciated when using Samsung devices.
Also one great feature is the dynamic lockscreen magazine with very rich wallpapers each time go lock screen you get wonderful and high quality photos.
To me Vivo of screen gestures works much better and user friendly than Oxygen does.
As long you setup the phone properly(removed Chinese bloatware very easily through setting menu that Vivo let you uninstalled almost everything, and some other stuff through adb) you are gone enjoy super smooth experience, exceptional stability and comfort and great battery performance.
Never had issue with notification as well as long uninstalled Vivo battery management witch is very aggressive and give all permission to app to work in background as by default Vivo is killing them.
The only benefits of Oxygen compared to Vivo or Oppo is the ability of rooting your device and all the potential open with that freedom.
For example I'm a big fan of substratum themes and testing several mod, tweak and custom rom and one of the basic reasons of buying oneplus 7 pro.
I really like have under full control the software experience.
Of course I'm buying it because I like full screen experience without any stupid notch or punch holes that I hate and never had issue with pop up camera (actually rarely I'm using front facing camera so I prefer being always hidden)
And of course the huge battery capacity of 4000 and the very promising new screen are all give me extra motivation of purchasing 7 Pro.
So as you can see I'm big fan of BBK group and their smartphone and prefer it over Samsung or Huawei devices as it's closest to my needs much more and really like of testing new design approach offering with unique character
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I'm a user both Vivo Nex S from last summer and 2.5 months I'm owed also Dual display as well.
Chinese version both of them.
I'm really enjoying both phones never bothered me ios style Funtouch and I really appreciate many features and customization option offer natively that Oxygen does not offer.
With Pie Vivo offer much more customization with AOD that Oxygen not ever had.
Also maintain battery saver mode with location while oxygen removed badly that option.
Also Vivo offers saperate notification sound alarm from ringing soung alarm very convenient and useful feature always appreciated when using Samsung devices.
Also one great feature is the dynamic lockscreen magazine with very rich wallpapers each time go lock screen you get wonderful and high quality photos.
To me Vivo of screen gestures works much better and user friendly than Oxygen does.
As long you setup the phone properly(removed Chinese bloatware very easily through setting menu that Vivo let you uninstalled almost everything, and some other stuff through adb) you are gone enjoy super smooth experience, exceptional stability and comfort and great battery performance.
Never had issue with notification as well as long uninstalled Vivo battery management witch is very aggressive and give all permission to app to work in background as by default Vivo is killing them.
The only benefits of Oxygen compared to Vivo or Oppo is the ability of rooting your device and all the potential open with that freedom.
For example I'm a big fan of substratum themes and testing several mod, tweak and custom rom and one of the basic reasons of buying oneplus 7 pro.
I really like have under full control the software experience.
Of course I'm buying it because I like full screen experience without any stupid notch or punch holes that I hate and never had issue with pop up camera (actually rarely I'm using front facing camera so I prefer being always hidden)
And of course the huge battery capacity of 4000 and the very promising new screen are all give me extra motivation of purchasing 7 Pro.
So as you can see I'm big fan of BBK group and their smartphone and prefer it over Samsung or Huawei devices as it's closest to my needs much more and really like of testing new design approach offering with unique character
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Good review Friend and explained very well about the Vivo device.
paatha13 said:
I'm a user both Vivo Nex S from last summer and 2.5 months I'm owed also Dual display as well.
Chinese version both of them.
I'm really enjoying both phones never bothered me ios style Funtouch and I really appreciate many features and customization option offer natively that Oxygen does not offer.
With Pie Vivo offer much more customization with AOD that Oxygen not ever had.
Also maintain battery saver mode with location while oxygen removed badly that option.
Also Vivo offers saperate notification sound alarm from ringing soung alarm very convenient and useful feature always appreciated when using Samsung devices.
Also one great feature is the dynamic lockscreen magazine with very rich wallpapers each time go lock screen you get wonderful and high quality photos.
To me Vivo of screen gestures works much better and user friendly than Oxygen does.
As long you setup the phone properly(removed Chinese bloatware very easily through setting menu that Vivo let you uninstalled almost everything, and some other stuff through adb) you are gone enjoy super smooth experience, exceptional stability and comfort and great battery performance.
Never had issue with notification as well as long uninstalled Vivo battery management witch is very aggressive and give all permission to app to work in background as by default Vivo is killing them.
The only benefits of Oxygen compared to Vivo or Oppo is the ability of rooting your device and all the potential open with that freedom.
For example I'm a big fan of substratum themes and testing several mod, tweak and custom rom and one of the basic reasons of buying oneplus 7 pro.
I really like have under full control the software experience.
Of course I'm buying it because I like full screen experience without any stupid notch or punch holes that I hate and never had issue with pop up camera (actually rarely I'm using front facing camera so I prefer being always hidden)
And of course the huge battery capacity of 4000 and the very promising new screen are all give me extra motivation of purchasing 7 Pro.
So as you can see I'm big fan of BBK group and their smartphone and prefer it over Samsung or Huawei devices as it's closest to my needs much more and really like of testing new design approach offering with unique character
Sent from my V1821A using Tapatalk
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Yes, Some of the features that you mentioned is not available in Oxygen OS. But everyone knows that Oxygen OS software smooth experience is way better than other BBK group phones. Many people including me doesn't like the Color OS and funtouch OS like they're copying stuffs from iOS but in Oxygen OS you can get an unique software experience .
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Yes, Some of the features that you mentioned is not available in Oxygen OS. But everyone knows that Oxygen OS software smooth experience is way better than other BBK group phones. Many people including me doesn't like the Color OS and funtouch OS like they're copying stuffs from iOS but in Oxygen OS you can get an unique software experience .
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As I said I'm not having issues both skin like them the same for what their offer.
I'm totally disagree for smoothness experience,both skins are the same.
Never experienced any lag with Funtouch or loosing smoothness over time.
Same setup,same app,same usage both skins.
As for copying ios it's matter of personal preferences only.
Some people like it some others not.
It doesn't have any impact on smoothness or stability.
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As I said I'm not having issues both skin like them the same for what their offer.
I'm totally disagree for smoothness experience,both skins are the same.
Never experienced any lag with Funtouch or loosing smoothness over time.
Same setup,same app,same usage both skins.
As for copying ios it's matter of personal preferences only.
Some people like it some others not.
It doesn't have any impact on smoothness or stability.
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Yes, I agree with you.
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Right now I'm using OP5T. Thought of buying 6T but after looking at the vivo nex, I've attracted by it's design. BBK is a brand which owns the Vivo, Oneplus and Oppo. And the launch of OP7 is just weeks away with the design which I was expecting it to be. And I'm a guy who doesn't like selfies not gonna use the popup camera a lot so no worries about the mechanical part in my phone.
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If the in screen fingerprint reader is the same as used in the 6T get ready to be dissapointed, you are spoiled with the FP reader on the 5T
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If the in screen fingerprint reader is the same as used in the 6T get ready to be dissapointed, you are spoiled with the FP reader on the 5T
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What's wrong with the fingerprint scanner on the 6T? Mine works fine, it has also been stated in a few articles and tweets that it will have a 2nd generation improved Fingerprint Scanner.
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What's wrong with the fingerprint scanner on the 6T? Mine works fine, it has also been stated in a few articles and tweets that it will have a 2nd generation improved Fingerprint Scanner.
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Nothing is "wrong" with it, it's just a much different experience than the lightning fast 5T reader.
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What's wrong with the fingerprint scanner on the 6T? Mine works fine, it has also been stated in a few articles and tweets that it will have a 2nd generation improved Fingerprint Scanner.
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Mine is fine too
What issue are you facing??
I often wonder if people who complain about FP readers know that you can register the same thumb/finger multiple times for better detection. 5 digits can be registered and they don't all have to be different.
Mines absolutely bloody fantastic as well. Can't complain.
can't complaint, man
! Can't complaint at all!
One complaint is when your finger is moist/wet it wont register. Tell me yours dont suffer from that?
Dont get me wrong I love my 6T, and I'm going to get the Pro, but I hope the 2nd gen is better than the 1st.
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One complaint is when your finger is moist/wet it wont register. Tell me yours dont suffer from that?
Dont get me wrong I love my 6T, and I'm going to get the Pro, but I hope the 2nd gen is better than the 1st.
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Why is your finger moist/wet, is it a regular thing for you? Kinda of like people complaining it doesn't have an IP rating. Instead how about you just don't take your phone for a swim.
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Why is your finger moist/wet, is it a regular thing for you? Kinda of like people complaining it doesn't have an IP rating. Instead how about you just don't take your phone for a swim.
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Who said anything about swimming with the phone? Dont assume, it makes you look stupid. Sweat, rain, washing your hand. I dont get how you cannot comprehend those things? Do you want me to draw pictures for you?
Hey guys,
since what happened between Huawei and Google I am wondering if it is still worth buying the P30 Pro.
I have heard of many features like Play Store not working on Huawei devices anymore. Does that count for stock firmware only or on custom roms too?
I was so close on buying the P30 pro but now it seems like the S10+ of Samsung is the better option.
What do you think? Especially the devs in here
Greez, skrippi
I mean the device has the best hardware for my preference, but due to the locked bootlooder updates will also add the the headache of updating. It's preference really whats most important in your phone. I like the better battery, camera and fast charge so i think im going to keep it. You never know, the decision may be reversed anyway.
I just got one and I'm happy. Not a dev, but I like the phone and the hardware. I doubt the worst case scenarios will happen. Worst case I get a new phone next year.
I just got one too best phone i have had ever and i had them all lol the camera zoom will blow your mind haha
Of course it is
Best camera for all scenarios specially night
Best battery life for all usages specially gaming
Smooth operations after the latest updates
Design and colors
speed in everything specially charging
The play store or security updates won't be effected and I am sure they will figure something out in the next month or so
American media just want to make it sound and look bad for only Huawei. While the truth is American companies lost billions of dollars of business as well.
The stupidest decision ever made in recent history
Thank you guys! I will hope they figure out something new with huawei
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Thank you guys! I will hope they figure out something new with huawei
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all current huawei phone including the p30 the honor 20 and the upcoming mate 30 is not affected by the ban google/android already tweeted that and confirmed only future devices is affected by the ban. also just to inform the apps and playstore is the only one that is banned you can still access gmail and maps using the normal browser this is the one thing a lot of people miss and not informed.
Wait, the app store doesn't work on P30 Pro ? How do you install and maintain apps then?
Do you need to look for apks for every single app?
He said ****. Play Store is working as usual.
No P30 Pro treath or forum?
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Buy it! I got mine for 500€.
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Hey guys,
since what happened between Huawei and Google I am wondering if it is still worth buying the P30 Pro.
I have heard of many features like Play Store not working on Huawei devices anymore. Does that count for stock firmware only or on custom roms too?
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Chances are when Trump finally gets some sort of new trade deal agreed with China, then Huawei restrictions will be dropped?
If not then worst case scenario is Huawei has to push out an OTA to existing models and ship new models with their own OS (based on Android) which is currently in “intensive testing phase” .
Hopefully they willl also develop their own App Store, but if not, there is nothing to stop us downloading apps from apkmirror and install manually.
If it does come to that eventuality, China will no doubt retaliate by banning Apple products (and many other big name US companies) from manufacturing goods in Chinese factories - no cheap labour = higher manufacturing costs .
Also, If I remember correctly, I read somewhere that a large portion of the worlds “rare minerals” are mined in China and are essential for manufacture of almost all high tech goods,
“The Donald” probably won’t care but US consumers won’t enjoy empty shelves or (even) higher prices in Apple stores, etc
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... I am sure they will figure something out in the next month or so
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Agreed. By way of either a Trade -deal or Impeachment?
https://www.xda-developers.com/realme-android-10-update-coloros-7-roadmap-realme-x2-pro/
Hopefully much sooner it will also get a Google camera 7 mod.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-7-2-astrophotography-super-res-zoom-pixels/
That is between April and June. That's really poor.
Seems like crap support,
Wonder what the frequency of updates regarding bug fixes, features and security updates is.
Can't confidently buy this phone at the moment with lack of any assurances from RealMe
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Seems like crap support,
Wonder what the frequency of updates regarding bug fixes, features and security updates is.
Can't confidently buy this phone at the moment with lack of any assurances from RealMe
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I've already purchased. Has so much potential. The OS is still somewhat Chinese even in English. If you could get oxygenOS it would be awesome.
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I've already purchased. Has so much potential. The OS is still somewhat Chinese even in English. If you could get oxygenOS it would be awesome.
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I'm sure the EU version will have no Chinese but the OS itself in terms of features and performance will be similar,
Have you received any OTA updates ?
Security patches ?
How's the camera performance ?
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I'm sure the EU version will have no Chinese but the OS itself in terms of features and performance will be similar,
Have you received any OTA updates ?
Security patches ?
How's the camera performance ?
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I have gotten 2 updates for it so far. One after I turned it on and one yesterday I think just a minor update for security and gesture functionality. Camera is actually not too bad. For some reason tho in my room I'll get these black bars going across the camera but not with the wide angle lens. It doesn't appear outside or anywhere else tho and I don't know what in my room would cause they lol but it shows up in pictures. Outside pictures with good lighting came out really well maybe a lil too much highlight but with some updates it would be cool. I really wanted a 7T for the macro mode on the camera and surprise this one has a super macro mode that actually works pretty well too. I don't know if I can post photos in here or no I don't know how. Don't use this forum often as I was on iPhone life the last 2 years.
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I have gotten 2 updates for it so far. One after I turned it on and one yesterday I think just a minor update for security and gesture functionality. Camera is actually not too bad. For some reason tho in my room I'll get these black bars going across the camera but not with the wide angle lens. It doesn't appear outside or anywhere else tho and I don't know what in my room would cause they lol but it shows up in pictures. Outside pictures with good lighting came out really well maybe a lil too much highlight but with some updates it would be cool. I really wanted a 7T for the macro mode on the camera and surprise this one has a super macro mode that actually works pretty well too. I don't know if I can post photos in here or no I don't know how. Don't use this forum often as I was on iPhone life the last 2 years.
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Yes,the features of the camera are great on paper but I've seen a lot of comparisons on YouTube and it seems to fall short compared to the Oneplus 7T for example but it can improve with updates and probably will.
I'm encouraged to hear you have gotten two updates already but am disappointed that Realme won't be giving Android 10 until q2 next year,that's quite late and they don't state anywhere their policy on the life of support which you would hope would be at least 2 years.
Macro mode looks awesome and the zoom,have you tried that ?
I might actually email Realme and ask them about software because in fairness they did email me back the last time I asked them about shipping and stuff,
I might buy this if the support will last 2 to 3 years but will need to lol at some other reviews
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You can attach photos here using the yellow attach icon on the XDA app anyway
Yeah I'm not thrilled about Android 10 coming so late. I didn't even know there was an app so this makes everything way easier lol. Hopefully some nice custom ROMs will come out similar to oxygenOS. The OS is very fluid but still have something in Chinese and no Google assistant as built in assistant which I was really looking forward to. I'm attaching pictures I just went outside to take to show you 1x,2x,5x, and wide angle (or not keeps saying bad request?)
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Yeah I'm not thrilled about Android 10 coming so late. I didn't even know there was an app so this makes everything way easier lol. Hopefully some nice custom ROMs will come out similar to oxygenOS. The OS is very fluid but still have something in Chinese and no Google assistant as built in assistant which I was really looking forward to. I'm attaching pictures I just went outside to take to show you 1x,2x,5x, and wide angle (or not keeps saying bad request?)
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I think you should probably wait for the global rom to sort out your issues with the google,yes some custom ROMs would also be nice.
Maybe you can only upload small pictures here I don't know
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I think you should probably wait for the global rom to sort out your issues with the google,yes some custom ROMs would also be nice.
Maybe you can only upload small pictures here I don't know
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How hard is it to flash another rom? I don't do that stuff often. I tried when I was younger on an no old Android and wiped it clean lol.
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How hard is it to flash another rom? I don't do that stuff often. I tried when I was younger on an no old Android and wiped it clean lol.
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I'm not too keen on it myself,did a bit when I was younger but there are plenty of tutorials out there and XDA is quite useful of you have any questions.
Right now I'm just at the point where I need the phone to work and I need the manufacturer to support the OS of my device,
Currently have a Oneplus 6T and it's great for software,just got stable A10 yesterday morning on 1 year old device. If I was you I might start thinking of trading in your Realme for a OnePlus 7T or 7T pro.
The X2 pro is great on paper but I'm not sure about the software at all. Will be interesting to see some more reviews for the device especially as it comes out in the EU next week
I just switched to it today from my X. Will see how it does this week as a daily. Runs fornite mobile with a controller really well and COD mobile looks even better so smooth it's insane with highest graphics.
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Yes,the features of the camera are great on paper but I've seen a lot of comparisons on YouTube and it seems to fall short compared to the Oneplus 7T for example but it can improve with updates and probably will.
I'm encouraged to hear you have gotten two updates already but am disappointed that Realme won't be giving Android 10 until q2 next year,that's quite late and they don't state anywhere their policy on the life of support which you would hope would be at least 2 years.
Macro mode looks awesome and the zoom,have you tried that ?
I might actually email Realme and ask them about software because in fairness they did email me back the last time I asked them about shipping and stuff,
I might buy this if the support will last 2 to 3 years but will need to lol at some other reviews
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You can attach photos here using the yellow attach icon on the XDA app anyway
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Finally let me upload some pics here is 1x,2x, and 5x
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Finally let me upload some pics here is 1x,2x, and 5x
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Hey Dude,cheers for the samples,they look good but I'm no expert.
Have looked at a lot of comparisons on YouTube and when they compare the camera on the x2 pro to that of a flagship like the p30 pro or iPhone 11 they generally say the x2 pro suffers in some areas.
I would say your photos look good but not amazing,maybe they aren't that sharp or the color is a bit off,maybe a bit noisy in areas,again no expert.
But how's the rest of the phone going,is the ColorOS any good,is it annoying,
How are the features etc ?
Still haven't pre ordered mine and not sure yet if I will
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Hey Dude,cheers for the samples,they look good but I'm no expert.
Have looked at a lot of comparisons on YouTube and when they compare the camera on the x2 pro to that of a flagship like the p30 pro or iPhone 11 they generally say the x2 pro suffers in some areas.
I would say your photos look good but not amazing,maybe they aren't that sharp or the color is a bit off,maybe a bit noisy in areas,again no expert.
But how's the rest of the phone going,is the ColorOS any good,is it annoying,
How are the features etc ?
Still haven't pre ordered mine and not sure yet if I will
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Pictures aren't bad especially in good lighting. Idk if photos get compressed when uploaded so that could be another reason. ColorOS is okay it's like a iOS kinda vibe but very well Android. It's usable but you can't change launchers or set default apps. Some stuff on the phone is still in Chinese. No Google assistant you have breeno instead which isn't usable because all Chinese. They have their own iCloud type deal on the phone too which doesn't work well cause again Chinese. Battery life tho is really good so far one of the best phones I've had with battery life and the charging is unreal how fast it is. I also pull faster data speeds on my iPhone X than this phone. WiFi is fast but my T-Mobile data is half as fast or less than that compared to the same service on the iPhone . If they could get oxygenOS on this thing it would be a beast.
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Pictures aren't bad especially in good lighting. Idk if photos get compressed when uploaded so that could be another reason. ColorOS is okay it's like a iOS kinda vibe but very well Android. It's usable but you can't change launchers or set default apps. Some stuff on the phone is still in Chinese. No Google assistant you have breeno instead which isn't usable because all Chinese. They have their own iCloud type deal on the phone too which doesn't work well cause again Chinese. Battery life tho is really good so far one of the best phones I've had with battery life and the charging is unreal how fast it is. I also pull faster data speeds on my iPhone X than this phone. WiFi is fast but my T-Mobile data is half as fast or less than that compared to the same service on the iPhone . If they could get oxygenOS on this thing it would be a beast.
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Thanks for the detailed insight,I do think most of these google related problems will not exist on the global EU version,there will be no Chinese on that and you should be able to set the default launcher, OxygenOS would probably be amazing on this phone,it all depends on the dev community,though things do seem fairly quiet so far for this phone on XDA,I'm sure it will gain some type of dev following
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Thanks for the detailed insight,I do think most of these google related problems will not exist on the global EU version,there will be no Chinese on that and you should be able to set the default launcher, OxygenOS would probably be amazing on this phone,it all depends on the dev community,though things do seem fairly quiet so far for this phone on XDA,I'm sure it will gain some type of dev following
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Even if no one makes custom roms for this phone would I still be able to flash the global ROM when it becomes available?
chipcamel said:
Even if no one makes custom roms for this phone would I still be able to flash the global ROM when it becomes available?
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That I do not know for sure with Realme but I don't think you will have a problem,The hardware is the same so I would hope you could easily flash the global rom.
Keep an eye on the forums here for advice and maybe read elsewhere like reddit.
Oppo are launching Color OS 7 with Android 10 next week and Realme are launching this phone in India the same day. Seems unlikely to me that they'd hurt sales by not getting this OS to this phone a lot sooner than Q2 next year.
Full story on GSMArena
Regarding Android 10, the twitter account for Realme Spain confirmed that it will release on Q1 2020 for every Realme in Europe. So it's a bit earlier than expected.
Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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I dislike MIUI as you. Nevertheless i use Xiaomi phones since 4 years. I use the developer rom (weekly) from Xiaomi.eu in combination with nova launcher. I like the multiple options (extras) of the rom based of latest android, the removed ads and bloadware and their grandiose community/ forums for the rom and the phones.
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-PaRRoT- said:
Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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Wellcome to the club
You are on the righ place.
Here you can learn how to customize the hell out of your device. I also use "Nova" launcher and that makes experience so much better for the start. And I apply "viral" custom icon theme pack across all of the apps.
In time developers will start releasing custom roms here that are maybe for your needs and likes. So just be patient and you will fall in love in Xiaomi and the device. No need to return it, it a good device that will just become better in the near future with upcoming updates. There is a 12.5 update coming sometime in April which will have much improvement in many segments.
Weird. After buying why this question?
New trend?
Just buy Pixel or OnePlus.
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Weird. After buying why this question?
New trend?
Just buy Pixel or OnePlus.
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I can understand this question after buy. If somebody is not knowing Miui and bought an xiaomi, chinese one, that could be a shock.
-PaRRoT- said:
Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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Ciao compa'
Coming from a Pixel 4XL and yes: devastating.
Using Nova Launcher or installing Xiaomi.eu will solve none of the problems that you are having. Actually Xiaomi.eu, even if based on 12.5, may make experience worts since you'll get Xiaomi apps for browser, dialer, contacts etc. Although Xiaomi.eu does not have the notification problems that you, me and everyone else with a EU Android 11 ROM is having, also on Mi10T phones.
If you contact me via pm I can try to provide some hints to ease the pain...