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I've read that Snapdragon 835 performs better in the Note8 than the Exynos chip so I'm interested in getting Snapdragon... so long as it has an unlocked bootloader.
I know for the regular S8 phones you can get the Hong Kong edition that comes with the 835 and an unlocked bootloader... does anyone know if that's still the case with the Note8?
samlazaz said:
I've read that Snapdragon 835 performs better in the Note8 than the Exynos chip so I'm interested in getting Snapdragon... so long as it has an unlocked bootloader.
I know for the regular S8 phones you can get the Hong Kong edition that comes with the 835 and an unlocked bootloader... does anyone know if that's still the case with the Note8?
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I'd check your sources mate
The Exynos chip outperforms the snapdragon is most situations
And hear we go...... 1st I like snapdragon it been good for me and it has cdma and gsm Abilities. Exynos don't but don't quote me on that. Yes exynos have unlock bootloader and snapdragon dont... It is not Samsung's fault is the Carrier's fault.. You see if the bootloader and was on unlock, you could take your note phone to any carrier you want to. So the carrier would lose money a lot... It just there to keep you in the loop .. but please let's Answer this man's question
Ry2mkk said:
I'd check your sources mate
The Exynos chip outperforms the snapdragon is most situations
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Generally true but in this case the Snapdragon slightly edges the Exynos in performance (benchmarks) but Exynos showing better efficiency.
They are very close though, not something anyone would be able to notice.
To answer the question I doubt we will see a Snapdragon unlock but I certainly hope so.
milan187 said:
Generally true but in this case the Snapdragon slightly edges the Exynos in performance (benchmarks) but Exynos showing better efficiency.
They are very close though, not something anyone would be able to notice.
To answer the question I doubt we will see a Snapdragon unlock but I certainly hope so.
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All the benchmarks i have seen this isnt the case ? Could you provide a link ?
https://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-note-8-benchmarks-hint-at-something-interesting-14494981/
Its the same as how it was with the Galaxy S8 and S8+...Exynos performed better.
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And hear we go...... 1st I like snapdragon it been good for me and it has cdma and gsm Abilities. Exynos don't but don't quote me on that. Yes exynos have unlock bootloader and snapdragon dont... It is not Samsung's fault is the Carrier's fault.. You see if the bootloader and was on unlock, you could take your note phone to any carrier you want to. So the carrier would lose money a lot... It just there to keep you in the loop .. but please let's Answer this man's question
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Hi, sorry but you're wrong. In my country (Algeria) all band it's cdma and all Samsung (like s8 or note 8) have exynos and work like a charm. I speak about original Samsung house. And of course I have the note 8 exynos and for me it's better than snapdragon... So exynos it's compatible with gsm and cdma
Lykeul said:
Hi, sorry but you're wrong. In my country (Algeria) all band it's cdma and all Samsung (like s8 or note 8) have exynos and work like a charm. I speak about original Samsung house. And of course I have the note 8 exynos and for me it's better than snapdragon... So exynos it's compatible with gsm and cdma
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None of the networks in Algeria (Djezzy, Mobilis or Ooredoo) use CDMA, they're all GSM based.
murtaza02 said:
None of the networks in Algeria (Djezzy, Mobilis or Ooredoo) use CDMA, they're all GSM based.
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Of course but all phone is CDMA compatible and exynos
He speaking about phone he say exynos don't support CDMA
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And hear we go...... 1st I like snapdragon it been good for me and it has cdma and gsm Abilities. Exynos don't but don't quote me on that. Yes exynos have unlock bootloader and snapdragon dont... It is not Samsung's fault is the Carrier's fault.. You see if the bootloader and was on unlock, you could take your note phone to any carrier you want to. So the carrier would lose money a lot... It just there to keep you in the loop .. but please let's Answer this man's question
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I had an unlocked Int'l exynos Note 5 and it worked on At&t gsm phone. I'm currently using the Note 8 snapdragon unlocked version on At&t. I can use this phone on any carrier in the US. Unlocked doesn't mean the bootloader is unlocked. The unlocked snapdragon Note 8 bootloader is locked and that maybe at the demand of the US major carriers..... not sure.
Performance Comparison
Here is the link comparting 835 to the 8895:
anandtech.com/show/11540/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos-versus-snapdragon
It’s only when running system-level tests such as PCMark, which runs more realistic workloads that use standard Android API calls, where these effects become evident and where we see a noticeable difference in performance between the two S8 models. The S835 S8 performs almost 30% better than the E8895 model overall in PCMark, with a 49% advantage in the Writing test where thread migration between the little and big clusters plays a prominent role.
...If you’re upgrading from a previous Android or Galaxy phone, especially one that predates the S7, the Galaxy S8’s performance and battery life will not disappoint, no matter which SoC is used. Between these two, however, across all of the tests I've run, the S835 model is certainly the better of the two in terms of those metrics.
If anyone knows about the bootloaders of the Hong Kong model, please let me know!
Ry2mkk said:
I'd check your sources mate
The Exynos chip outperforms the snapdragon is most situations
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See post #10 below for source (Anandtech). I know historically that was the case, but apparently with the 835 it's a different story.
samlazaz said:
See post #10 below for source (Anandtech). I know historically that was the case, but apparently with the 835 it's a different story.
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Ah ok
Well. That sucks!
Suprising.
The F version is the snapdragon version, right? Or is the F version Exynos now?
smiley45 said:
And hear we go...... 1st I like snapdragon it been good for me and it has cdma and gsm Abilities. Exynos don't but don't quote me on that. Yes exynos have unlock bootloader and snapdragon dont... It is not Samsung's fault is the Carrier's fault.. You see if the bootloader and was on unlock, you could take your note phone to any carrier you want to. So the carrier would lose money a lot... It just there to keep you in the loop .. but please let's Answer this man's question
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If the carriers were the principal then the unbranded variant of the Snapdragon note 8 wouldn't be locked.
It's not the carriers, it's Qualcomm.
Not to detract from our current root, but is there anything that we can do as far as development towards unlocking our bootloader or are we basically just waiting (hoping) for a devleak? Sorry for my ignorance I haven't been following xda as much these days
jlear3 said:
Not to detract from our current root, but is there anything that we can do as far as development towards unlocking our bootloader or are we basically just waiting (hoping) for a devleak? Sorry for my ignorance I haven't been following xda as much these days
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It seems technically possible but rather unlikely. I found this article on the S7 that's an interesting read: https://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
What, Seriously?
sefrcoko said:
It's not the carriers, it's Qualcomm.
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Never heard of this dating back to GingerBread. Perhaps the SoC or Modem, but never relating to the BootLoader. I would appreciate a reference link on this. Very interested...
Apparently this can be done... Did not know...
Hong Kong versions are all snapdragon for the note8. Not sure what's going on with unlock and stuff for hk versions, seems to be nothing on the hk and Chinese sites on 835 unlock/root yet
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And hear we go...... 1st I like snapdragon it been good for me and it has cdma and gsm Abilities. Exynos don't but don't quote me on that. Yes exynos have unlock bootloader and snapdragon dont... It is not Samsung's fault is the Carrier's fault.. You see if the bootloader and was on unlock, you could take your note phone to any carrier you want to. So the carrier would lose money a lot... It just there to keep you in the loop .. but please let's Answer this man's question
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Umm bootloader has nothing to do with simlock. My Note has a locked bootloader but I am sim unlocked so I can go to whatever carrier I want, I just cant boot any rom I want.
If someone could help me find out if its possible to pre-order or buy the s10 International (Exynos) variants from USA. Thanks
I think Bestbuy will be the best place to look.
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Here's the info about usa Pre order and trade in.
Tried to pre order from the UK site, and they wont ship to the US. Not sure which version the unlocked version will be - they dont post model numbers... following for sure.
Clove.co.uk
As above, Clove offer delivery to the U.S
kpjs4s said:
If someone could help me find out if its possible to pre-order or buy the s10 International (Exynos) variants from USA. Thanks
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S10-Plus/192828272845
I bought from them multiple times before, they are trustable
Thanks for the tip. Gonna pull the trigger on this. Really wanted prism green. Just need to get cracking on getting S-Pay to work on it.
thunderroid said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S10-Plus/192828272845
I bought from them multiple times before, they are trustable
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I pulled the trigger on the Prism Green S10+ (G975F/DS) from them on Thursday. Looks like it is shipping out on Monday (I thought it might be last Friday) since they claimed it was in stock. I've bought a few phones from them before and they've always delivered so am hoping that they come through!
Reading on down that Ebay listing I see one thing in the specs that has me wondering.
"OS Android 9.0 (Pie); One UI
ChipsetExynos 9820 Octa (8 nm) - EMEA
Qualcomm SDM855 Snapdragon 855 (7 nm) - USA/LATAM, China"
That doesn't mean that they will ship a Snapdragon model to the US does it bacause it sure reads that way unless that's just a copy/paste of Samsung's specs.
You're reading too much into it. It's just a copy paste.
Insert_here said:
You're reading too much into it. It's just a copy paste.
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When buying crap off Ebay, I never read too much into it.
Sorry for the bit off topic question but why would you even want the Exynos version? AFAIK the 855 beats the 9820 benchmark wise. The only reason I see to get the Exynos version is its 8K video recording potential (if we can hack it to work).
CroGamer1 said:
Sorry for the bit off topic question but why would you even want the Exynos version? AFAIK the 855 beats the 9820 benchmark wise. The only reason I see to get the Exynos version is its 8K video recording potential (if we can hack it to work).
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That's not really true from what I have seen, the Exynos beats out the Snapdragon in both single core & multicore, correct me if I'm wrong......
Tel864 said:
Reading on down that Ebay listing I see one thing in the specs that has me wondering.
"OS Android 9.0 (Pie); One UI
ChipsetExynos 9820 Octa (8 nm) - EMEA
Qualcomm SDM855 Snapdragon 855 (7 nm) - USA/LATAM, China"
That doesn't mean that they will ship a Snapdragon model to the US does it bacause it sure reads that way unless that's just a copy/paste of Samsung's specs.
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Its the dual-sim version and only Exynos have dual SIM versions
Duncan1982 said:
That's not really true from what I have seen, the Exynos beats out the Snapdragon in both single core & multicore, correct me if I'm wrong......
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Here you go: https://www.bgr.in/news/samsung-gal...nchmark-scores-revealed-march-8-india-launch/
CroGamer1 said:
Sorry for the bit off topic question but why would you even want the Exynos version? AFAIK the 855 beats the 9820 benchmark wise. The only reason I see to get the Exynos version is its 8K video recording potential (if we can hack it to work).
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If Samsung's history with the past several S models remains the same, the Exynos version will have a fully unlocked bootloader, while the USA 855 models will be fully locked down.
hella356 said:
If Samsung's history with the past several S models remains the same, the Exynos version will have a fully unlocked bootloader, while the USA 855 models will be fully locked down.
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You have a point there, but there is a possibility of network incompatibilities with US carriers. I heard that some T-Mobile bands are unsupported.
CroGamer1 said:
You have a point there, but there is a possibility of network incompatibilities with US carriers. I heard that some T-Mobile bands are unsupported.
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True, band 71 & carrier aggragation & some calling features & warranty if unlocked...
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You have a point there, but there is a possibility of network incompatibilities with US carriers. I heard that some T-Mobile bands are unsupported.
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I can't speak to the S10 models, but I have both a T-Mobile (Qualcomm) and international (Exyonos) S7. I've never seen a difference in connectivity or download speeds between the two of them. I'm guessing the situation will be similar with the S10, but only time will tell. The reality for me is that the current speed and quality of connection I get is terrific, and I'd assume that either S10 version will at least equal and probably better what I'm getting now. Our needs all vary, of course, but I'll sacrifice some download speed (if that even ends up being the case) for an unlocked bootloader every time.
I'm seriously unsure if it's better to go for the snapdragon, but If buy that version will I get as update as quick as the Exynos version?
No, Exynos will get updates earlier. Also Exynos version can record a calls
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I'm seriously unsure if it's better to go for the snapdragon, but If buy that version will I get as update as quick as the Exynos version?
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What are the advantages of the Exynos variant? Only one I'm aware of, you'll have a larger selection of Custom ROM'S. Snapdragon SoC is now faster, better optimized for gaming, AI, 5G and is offered with an unlocked bootloader. Do you plan on rooting or flashing your device? If not Snapdragon is your best bet.
Yeah, it seems to boil down to whether you want/need an unlocked bootloader. While there have been some unlocked Snapdragon S models in the past, they are in limited markets and have had very little development compared to the Exynos models. For my usage, the Exynos is the only option, and some of the performance difference will be clawed back by custom kernels/ROMs. And since I'm coming from a rooted Exynos S7, the S10e will be a solid performance jump. But if rooting didn't matter to me, I'd go with the Snapdragon.
Hey guys im planing to buy a note 8 but there are two different chipset models so which model should i buy? and also i heard there is a colour burning issue on note 8 is it happen in both chipset devices or just exynos device.please help me to sort out this problems
uchithisanka said:
Hey guys im planing to buy a note 8 but there are two different chipset models so which model should i buy? and also i heard there is a colour burning issue on note 8 is it happen in both chipset devices or just exynos device.please help me to sort out this problems
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Color burning (or screen burn-in) only happens when you run 100% brightness for an extended period of time on a white background. Avoid this and you'll be fine.
Qualcomm is American chipsets. They are locked and are regional models like U, U1, V. They cannot have custom roms at this period of time.
Exynos is the Samsung chipset. It is included in models like F, FD and N. It is unlocked and you are able to flash custom firmware/roms etc such as Lineage, TWRP, Magisk.
tl;dr if you don't know what custom roms are, it doesn't matter.
Just buy the same variant as the ones they sell locally at your phone shops.
Remember, samsung used Qualcomm's chipset for a very good reason...... If not they would have used their own exynos..
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vash_h said:
Just buy the same variant as the ones they sell locally at your phone shops.
Remember, samsung used Qualcomm's chipset for a very good reason...... If not they would have used their own exynos..
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The only reason that Samsung used the Qualcomm SOC for the US and Chinese markets is due to regional restrictions. Personally, I prefer the Exynos variant of the Note 8. As the Exynos SOC has been proven to be more energy efficient.
iceepyon said:
The only reason that Samsung used the Qualcomm SOC for the US and Chinese markets is due to regional restrictions. Personally, I prefer the Exynos variant of the Note 8. As the Exynos SOC has been proven to be more energy efficient.
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Actually, no. Its the cdma. Since cdma is dying anyway, there is no need to invest to develop cdma into exynos.. That's why samsung just continued to use snapdragon for those markets.
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If you care about ever flashing custom ROMs, then get an Exynos. The Qualcom variant can't be flashed this way. I'm happily running an imported SM-N950F in the USA on AT&T with zero problems.
Hello guys,
I am planning to buy S21 Ultra, after reading some older reviews and watching some videos I was wondering if I should get snapdragon (according to some reviews a better one) version or exynos? I am based in Europe.
Is there still big difference (or any) in performance, camera and battery?
Also, will there be any problems using snapdragon version in EU?
Airys said:
Hello guys,
I am planning to buy S21 Ultra, after reading some older reviews and watching some videos I was wondering if I should get snapdragon (according to some reviews a better one) version or exynos? I am based in Europe.
Is there still big difference (or any) in performance, camera and battery?
Also, will there be any problems using snapdragon version in EU?
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Hi
There are not such a big difference in performance ( that you can really notice in your daily use) to say one is better than the other
You can root both but exynos is "easier", if you live in europe the exynos may be a better option , there is no european firmware for the SD , even though both firmware should work fine , the snapdragon firmware may be a little more limited as 4G and 5G bands are not all the same and maybe an specific carrier service may not be available due to the CSC
Depending on how you source it (a different country, across oceans, etc), warranty might be hard to take advantage of (you might have to get it repaired in the country of origin).
Airys said:
Hello guys,
I am planning to buy S21 Ultra, after reading some older reviews and watching some videos I was wondering if I should get snapdragon (according to some reviews a better one) version or exynos? I am based in Europe.
Is there still big difference (or any) in performance, camera and battery?
Also, will there be any problems using snapdragon version in EU?
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That depends on what you want your device to manage. If Call Features and 5G are priorities then aquire your Service Provider's device.
If you're going to run a stock Android go with the Snapdragon.
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