I guess the title is quite straightforward. The gsmarena and the box itself show "IP65/68" and it confuses me a bit. Is it 65 or 68 or something else?
It means it has both certificates: IP65 and IP68.
nasko_spasko said:
It means it has both certificates: IP65 and IP68.
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But 68 has the 65's characteristics already included, why bother pointing it out?
Could be that they went first for the IP65, then tried 68. I can't find official information.
nasko_spasko said:
Could be that they went first for the IP65, then tried 68. I can't find official information.
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Neither can I. I just want to find out to what extent is my phone officially waterproof.
It's officially ip68. I've dipped mine in water a couple of times. No damage.
Suren Manukyan said:
But 68 has the 65's characteristics already included, why bother pointing it out?
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No it doesn't.
IP6x is dust protected.
IPX5 is protected against low power spray.
IPX8 is protected against immersion.
You can be priced against immersion but not spray, or protected against spray and not immersion. The system doesn't mean you are protected against everything that has a smaller number.
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_Dennis_ said:
No it doesn't.
IP6x is dust protected.
IPX5 is protected against low power spray.
IPX8 is protected against immersion.
You can be priced against immersion but not spray, or protected against spray and not immersion. The system doesn't mean you are protected against everything that has a smaller number.
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So you can damage an IP68 phone with a low pressure spray?
Suren Manukyan said:
So you can damage an IP68 phone with a low pressure spray?
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Yes, water sprayed into a Port for example can damage it do to higher pressures exerted on the Port then static immersion.
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_Dennis_ said:
Yes, water sprayed into a Port for example can damage it do to higher pressures exerted on the Port then static immersion.
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Well. So this phone is quite bath/pool safe.
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Hi Guys,
I've been wondering for a few days, Sony is basically making the "Waterproof" function of this phone as the main selling point.
I'm just curious as to how the insurance and warranty is going to be affected by the water proof.
As I know most insurances claim its water damage and say its not covered.
Can they still do this with the Xperia, as its water proof?
Are warranties etc going to change incorporating the water-proof(ness).
Thanks.
It's not water-proof, it's water-resistant.
The water seals inside the phone will still void your warranty if voided, its just like a water proof camera, if YOU haven't secured your waterproof flaps/seals properly and then submerge it, then it is user error.
Wait a minute, so why the hell do they claim "Water-PROOF" whens it not.
So basically, you couldn't just wash it off like the advert.
Define RESISTANT compared to PROOF....?
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching....
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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bucho2004 said:
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching.... PPPOOORRRNNN
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
Wilks3y said:
Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
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Erm... There are flaps on the phone covering every port and I'm sure the Xperia Z is advertised as water resistant. Not waterproof. It can still witstand being submerged underwater for up to 30mins and 100m though.
I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
anjath said:
I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
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Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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bkbatboy said:
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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So whats the use in the flaps?
Why not just remove the flaps and then theres no chance of you messing up?
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Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
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Maths obliterates your brain !!
Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
and
IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
biffsmash said:
Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
and
IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
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What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
go ahead and get it. this is the most rugged high end phone to date and probably for the entire year 2013. all the best.
Wilks3y said:
What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
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The flaps don't really disturb, To charge the phone you can use the dock, and for listening to music (if you do that a lot) you can go with bluetooth earphones.
And I've submerged my phone also in a galss of water and also took it into the shower, you should just make sure that you dry your phone before openening the flaps again, then avaerything should be fine
Great, Xperia looks like my upgrade then. May see some of you around here in a few months time when I'll be an owner
Have fun all, thanks very much for your responses.
Hello guys, yes i know i could google that, and did, but i do not figure out whether it is water restistant/proof.
i found this :
http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-V7000ZWAXSP-features
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
and watched this
/watch?v=sgIQdee4wDI&list=PLA8B9BACF92DA70AB
but i still do not know if it is water prof,
if i can do swimming or go bath with i ?
Which places are demageable(loudspeaker..?) what if i would make waterresistant TESA film on it?
Has Anyone some experinces with water or other influences ?
Please tell me
Thank you and have a awesome life friend !
it is "splash proof" meaning it shouldn't get hurt from occasionally getting a little water on it from sources like walking in a light rain, or washing your hands without submerging it.
It is most defiantly not water proof, do not submerge it under water, it will die.
Yes what Milimbar said. Don't bath, or swim with it.
Some users report the camera fogging up after getting wet.
creasqui said:
Hello guys, yes i know i could google that, and did, but i do not figure out whether it is water restistant/proof.
i found this :
http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-V7000ZWAXSP-features
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
and watched this
/watch?v=sgIQdee4wDI&list=PLA8B9BACF92DA70AB
but i still do not know if it is water prof,
if i can do swimming or go bath with i ?
Which places are demageable(loudspeaker..?) what if i would make waterresistant TESA film on it?
Has Anyone some experinces with water or other influences ?
Please tell me
Thank you and have a awesome life friend !
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and google didn't show you the other threads on XDA covering this already?
there was a post some time ago from a guy that left it on accidentally in the shower and it had no damage but i woudlnt recommend that
Just a quick selection:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496940
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458450
I accidentally submerged mine while cleaning the fish tank pump. I nearly pooped when I did it but quickly shook off the water and it came out unharmed. Admittedly, I didnt go trying to take pictures afterward but the next day, the camera seemed fine too. That was two months ago and haven't had an issed or another serious accident.
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From the OP's link:
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
* IP55 rating means that device is protected against penetration of dust in quantity to interfere satisfactory operation and harmful ingress of water under test condition of spraying the enclosure from any direction with a stream of water from a standard 6.3mm diameter test nozzle for up to 3 minutes. According to accredited test results by Korea Labouratory Accreditation Scheme, individual results may vary.
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This is pretty specific and precise it seems to me. Not sure what the OP is unclear about.
From the IP55 rating, no, it is not suitable for full immersion for any length of time, nor is it protected at any depth.
Rather -- again just from the description above -- you can hit it with a stream of water for minutes at a time, from all different angles, and it will be fine.
IOW, no problem with getting it wet. Yes problem with immersion.
dwallersv said:
IOW, no problem with getting it wet. Yes problem with immersion.
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Cant explain it any clearer than that.
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Just to make sure, my model number is sm-r382. I was wondering if it's waterproof?
No its water resistant only.
Lekan Adeyeri said:
Just to make sure, my model number is sm-r382. I was wondering if it's waterproof?
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IP67 is resistant to splashing and at most a shower. I wouldn't swim with it on. I don't even shower with it on.
Lekan Adeyeri said:
Just to make sure, my model number is sm-r382. I was wondering if it's waterproof?
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IP67 means it protected dust and water immersion of up to 1 meter (about 3.3 feet) for up to 30 minutes.
http://aceeca.com/handhelds/ip67
I read that Mate S is water resistant, but I wonder which model - chinese only (with ForceTouch) or any available?
chato.pl said:
I read that Mate S is water resistant, but I wonder which model - chinese only (with ForceTouch) or any available?
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I has a water resistant coating, but you cannot take it under water.
And how this water resistant coating works actually? Can it protect audio jack, micro-USB, speaker or microphones against raindrops?
chato.pl said:
And how this water resistant coating works actually? Can it protect audio jack, micro-USB, speaker or microphones against raindrops?
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There is a video on youtube about water resistances on mate s.
Thx, I found it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_D1PSAm_J0
mine fell into the bathtub today for ±3 seconds. still fully functional. no watered display or similar....
seems its kind of waterproof (at least for a limited time) .. phew..
datayeah said:
mine fell into the bathtub today for ±3 seconds. still fully functional. no watered display or similar....
seems its kind of waterproof (at least for a limited time) .. phew..
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Still works without issue?
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yes, it does!
yrxe said:
Still works without issue?
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dropped mine into my toilet....seems ok so far.
I haven't seen any information on water resistance?
Golf c said:
I haven't seen any information on water resistance?
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Yes it is for sure.
bobby janow said:
Yes it is for sure.
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Hopefully I won't jump into the water like with my 3XL. Which survived twice.
Golf c said:
Hopefully I won't jump into the water like with my 3XL. Which survived twice.
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I actually think they are made for toilet drops not so much diving into the waves. Ok also for that errant thunderstorm. I do like the larger battery though. Bring that in at $599 I'll buy it on day one.
IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins)
taken from GSM Arena
Nope, it is IPX8 !
Google: Pixel 5 has a water protection rating of IPX8 under IEC standard 60529.
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The first digit indicates the level of protection that the enclosure provides against access to hazardous parts (e.g., electrical conductors, moving parts) and the ingress of solid foreign objects.
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X means there is no data available to specify a protection rating with regard to this criterion.
Second digit: Liquid ingress protection
The second digit indicates the level of protection that the enclosure provides against harmful ingress of water.
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8 means that equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Test duration: agreement with manufacturer. Depth specified by the manufacturer, generally up to 3 meters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
Danilo Pantelić said:
Nope, it is IPX8 !
X means there is no data available to specify a protection rating with regard to this criterion.
8 means that equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Test duration: agreement with manufacturer. Depth specified by the manufacturer, generally up to 3 meters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
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IP68 water and dust resistance from Google store website
Pixel 5 has a water protection rating of IPX8 under IEC standard 60529. Charger and accessories are not water resistant. Water resistance is not a permanent condition and may be compromised due to normal wear and tear, repair, disassembly or damage.
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https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5?hl=en-US
Same for Europe!
Pixel 5 ist nach IEC-Norm 60529 mit Wasserschutzklasse IPX8 eingestuft. Das Ladegerät und das Zubehör sind nicht wasserbeständig. Wasserbeständigkeit ist kein dauerhafter Zustand, denn sie kann durch normale Abnutzungserscheinungen, Verschleiß und Schäden, Reparatur oder Auseinanderbauen beeinträchtigt werden.
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Source.
Materials
100% recycled aluminum enclosure 12
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 6 cover glass
IP68 water and dust resistance 13
13 Pixel 5 has a water protection rating of IPX8 under IEC standard 60529. Charger and accessories are not water resistant. Water resistance is not a permanent condition and may be compromised due to normal wear and tear, repair, disassembly or damage.normal wear and tear, repair, disassembly or damage.
uicnren said:
Source.
Materials
100% recycled aluminum enclosure12
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 6 cover glass
IP68 water and dust resistance13
13Pixel 5 has a water protection rating of IPX8 under IEC standard 60529. Charger and accessories are not water resistant. Water resistance is not a permanent condition and may be compromised due to normal wear and tear, repair, disassembly or damage.normal wear and tear, repair, disassembly or damage.
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**** your IPX8. Meaningless