This build was first released on May 22nd, in Germany, since then being released in many other countries. The OTA size is around 400MB.
Links for the firmware release can be found here: https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/SM-G960F/DBT/download/G960FXXU1BRE5/219360/
Model name: SM-G960F
Changelist: 13602611
Build date: Sat, 24 May 9614 16:13:00 +0000
Security Patch Level: 2018-05-01
Product code: DBT
PDA: G960FXXU1BRE5
CSC: G960FOXM1BRE3
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The build features security patches + fixes related to VoLTE and VoWIFI: http://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G960F/DBT/doc.html
Build Number: G960FXXU1BRE5
Android version: Oreo (Android 8.0.0)
Release Date: 2018-05-22
· Improved performance. – VoLTE, VoWIFI;
· Dual VoLTE/VoWIFI service is available for both of the SIM cards in the dual SIM slots ( ※ The service is provided only to dual SIM devices and can still be limited depending on the service operator for each SIM card. );
· The security of your device has been improved.
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Got this update this morning and somehow right after the update i have a pop up messsage saying to reboot my phone in order to use my new simcard. Couldn't figure it out till now how to solve it
This update made battery life worse
cirnocirno said:
This update made battery life worse
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Calibrate your battery
kyooohei08 said:
Calibrate your battery
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Lithium batteries don't need to be calibrated.
Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, the depth of discharge (DoD) determines the cycle count of the battery. The smaller the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine. There is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life. The exception may be a periodic calibration of the fuel gauge on a smart battery or intelligent device.
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
kyooohei08 said:
Calibrate your battery
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Don't need to, not with Lithium batteries
doriandiaconu said:
Lithium batteries don't need to be calibrated.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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I never charge my phone fully, always to 80~89% from 30~45%
But I have noticed that this recent update has made my phone weird, the sound stutters in games and battery is draining.
and the PPTP Issue with HotSpot of S9 is not solved. It's really a joke ...
cirnocirno said:
This update made battery life worse
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Agreed battery is wank as it was but now it's much worse, useless c*nts
DO NOT UPDATE TO THIS!
MY PHONE IS NOW TRASH!
Completely freezes when off the charger!
Tried unrooting and took off exposed. No luck.
No idea what they changed but my phone had to be completely reset
Just got my S9 yesterday and installed all updates before I even started using it, so no idea what it was like before, but have noticed a significant drain when using the camera, seems OK for normal use ie. exploring the phone and setting it up, SoT was pretty high with 3h40m SoT @ 50% battery left, but I was not using it for anything much other than changing settings and applying themes, installing apps etc, usual new phone stuff
But today I took it out for some photography and it drained from 100% > 60% in just a couple hours, Super Slow-Mo drains it fast too, but not surprising really
Battery is draining faster than my 2 year old S7 doing the same things
Hopefully a future update solves it, unlikely they'll leave their flagship with a battery drain problem
*Detection* said:
Just got my S9 yesterday and installed all updates before I even started using it, so no idea what it was like before, but have noticed a significant drain when using the camera, seems OK for normal use ie. exploring the phone and setting it up, SoT was pretty high with 3h40m SoT @ 50% battery left, but I was not using it for anything much other than changing settings and applying themes, installing apps etc, usual new phone stuff
But today I took it out for some photography and it drained from 100% > 60% in just a couple hours, Super Slow-Mo drains it fast too, but not surprising really
Battery is draining faster than my 2 year old S7 doing the same things
Hopefully a future update solves it, unlikely they'll leave their flagship with a battery drain problem
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Did you try a factory reset?
doriandiaconu said:
Did you try a factory reset?
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Phone is just a couple days old, pretty much factory reset anyway, shouldn't need to reset after each OTA unless it's a major OS update, and tbh I really don't fancy having to set it back up again
It's fine really, I`'ve installed a package disabler and done my usual app disables I did with my S7, seems to have helped normal use a bit
I`ll hang off until the next decent sized, non-security update and see how things are with that, right now I'm on 34% battery with 4h 57m SoT so can't complain really other than camera drain
*Detection* said:
Phone is just a couple days old, pretty much factory reset anyway, shouldn't need to reset after each OTA unless it's a major OS update, and tbh I really don't fancy having to set it back up again
It's fine really, I`'ve installed a package disabler and done my usual app disables I did with my S7, seems to have helped normal use a bit
I`ll hang off until the next decent sized, non-security update and see how things are with that, right now I'm on 34% battery with 4h 57m SoT so can't complain really other than camera drain
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Package disablers work without root?
doriandiaconu said:
Package disablers work without root?
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Yea they use KNOX Admin permissions
Package Disabler Pro with PDP engine works
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mdmmanager.poweroptmizer
*Detection* said:
Yea they use KNOX Admin permissions
Package Disabler Pro with PDP engine works
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mdmmanager.poweroptmizer
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Thanks! But I ain't ready to root my phone just yet. It was pretty expensive phone and my provider isn't willing to take it into warranty if I trip KNOX...
doriandiaconu said:
Thanks! But I ain't ready to root my phone just yet. It was pretty expensive phone and my provider isn't willing to take it into warranty if I trip KNOX...
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Same, this does not trip KNOX and does not require root so it's the perfect solution, it just requires knox permissions which pdp engine will request once you run it
I used this for 2 years on my S7 and KNOX is still 0x0
*Detection* said:
Same, this does not trip KNOX and does not require root so it's the perfect solution, it just requires knox permissions which pdp engine will request once you run it
I used this for 2 years on my S7 and KNOX is still 0x0
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Damn, I forgot what my original question was and I thought it needed root, lol.
doriandiaconu said:
Damn, I forgot what my original question was and I thought it needed root, lol.
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lol, nope no root, I gave up on root once KNOX became a problem for warranty, and I mostly only used it for blocking ads anyway, can be done without root with VPN blockers, or pi hole DNS blocker anyway now
*Detection* said:
lol, nope no root, I gave up on root once KNOX became a problem for warranty, and I mostly only used it for blocking ads anyway, can be done without root with VPN blockers, or pi hole DNS blocker anyway now
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What packages did you disable?
doriandiaconu said:
What packages did you disable?
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You can either disable them manually one by one, or edit this list to your liking and save it in notepad as disabledpackages.xml , save to your phone then import it into the package disabler
Code:
<importExportSetting>
<disabledPackages class="java.util.ArrayList">
<string>com.monotype.android.font.rosemary</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.aodservice</string>
<string>com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox</string>
<string>com.cnn.mobile.android.phone.edgepanel</string>
<string>com.sec.android.mimage.gear360editor</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.withtv</string>
<string>com.skms.android.agent</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.safetyassurance</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.easysetup</string>
<string>com.android.documentsui</string>
<string>com.android.mms.service</string>
<string>com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent</string>
<string>com.ebay.carrier</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.email.provider</string>
<string>com.microsoft.office.excel</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gamehome</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.desktoplauncher</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.widgetapp.yahooedge.finance</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.service.socket</string>
<string>com.microsoft.skydrive</string>
<string>de.axelspringer.yana.zeropage</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.knox.containeragent</string>
<string>com.samsung.knox.securefolder.setuppage</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.drivelink.stub</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.sm.devicesecurity</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.sample.acquirechannels</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.aircommandmanager</string>
<string>com.android.nfc</string>
<string>com.google.android.gm</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.agent</string>
<string>com.facebook.services</string>
<string>com.android.printspooler</string>
<string>com.android.hotwordenrollment.okgoogle</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.hmt.vrsvc</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.es.globalaction</string>
<string>com.samsung.knox.securefolder</string>
<string>com.android.bips</string>
<string>com.sec.android.desktopmode.uiservice</string>
<string>com.sec.enterprise.mdm.vpn</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus</string>
<string>com.microsoft.office.word</string>
<string>com.google.android.webview</string>
<string>com.microsoft.office.powerpoint</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.mirrorlink</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.server</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.myfiles</string>
<string>com.google.android.feedback</string>
<string>com.google.android.printservice.recommendation</string>
<string>com.monotype.android.font.chococooky</string>
<string>com.android.dreams.phototable</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixbyvision.framework</string>
<string>com.samsung.safetyinformation</string>
<string>com.facebook.katana</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.beaconmanager</string>
<string>com.sec.enterprise.mdm.services.simpin</string>
<string>com.facebook.system</string>
<string>com.google.android.backuptransport</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.plmsync</string>
<string>com.linkedin.android</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.fast</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.spage</string>
<string>com.sec.android.emergencylauncher</string>
<string>com.sec.android.easyMover</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.dlp.service</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bbc.bbcagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.visionintelligence</string>
<string>com.knox.vpn.proxyhandler</string>
<string>com.google.vr.vrcore</string>
<string>com.sec.enterprise.knox.cloudmdm.smdms</string>
<string>com.monotype.android.font.cooljazz</string>
<string>com.facebook.appmanager</string>
<string>com.samsung.aasaservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.allshare.service.mediashare</string>
<string>com.sec.android.widgetapp.webmanual</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.agent.dummy</string>
</disabledPackages>
</importExportSetting>
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Hello everyone,
I received Oreo update 3 days ago and I have noticed that my battery is draining since that update. For instance, when I use facebook it drains by 1% every 2 minutes and it was not like that before update. What should I do?
I really need to go back to nogut.
Any help?
firefoxrebo said:
Hello everyone,
I received Oreo update 3 days ago and I have noticed that my battery is draining since that update. For instance, when I use facebook it drains by 1% every 2 minutes and it was not like that before update. What should I do?
I really need to go back to nogut.
Any help?
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I had the same when I first installed Oreo.
Then I went to Settings, Device maintenance , Battery, Battery usage and found that android system drained my battery. I un-ticked "Allow background activity" and fixed draining.
You may also give it some time to calibrate battery measurement.
After 6 days with Oreo, I can say it's a little bit better than Nougat regarding battery.
freco said:
I had the same when I first installed Oreo.
Then I went to Settings, Device maintenance , Battery, Battery usage and found that android system drained my battery. I un-ticked "Allow background activity" and fixed draining.
You may also give it some time to calibrate battery measurement.
After 6 days with Oreo, I can say it's a little bit better than Nougat regarding battery.
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Thank you for your reply. I also noticed that Yesterday. Is it ok not to allow Android System in the background? Would that affect the usage of the phone?
Thank you again for your interest.
firefoxrebo said:
Thank you for your reply. I also noticed that Yesterday. Is it ok not to allow Android System in the background? Would that affect the usage of the phone?
Thank you again for your interest.
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if you unmark Android system I'll again be found as marked ..
razor6_4 said:
if you unmark Android system I'll again be found as marked ..
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so any help downgrading?
firefoxrebo said:
so any help downgrading?
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if you are not rooted then just flash your nougat file through odin... don't use home_csc...use csc...and others are pretty like same...
I'm facing this as well. I disabled all apps using background process.
Let's see it will solve this issue.
firefoxrebo said:
Hello everyone,
I received Oreo update 3 days ago and I have noticed that my battery is draining since that update. For instance, when I use facebook it drains by 1% every 2 minutes and it was not like that before update. What should I do?
I really need to go back to nogut.
Any help?
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Do you use the built-in app power monitor in settings/battery?
Use Betterbatterystats to see what's going on. Additionally, try a day or two with wifi turned off. I had huge battery drains on nougat when wifi was on and with it off I got 5 days on a single charge!! Maybe the same bug carries over to Oreo? Not sure, but worth a try if you can afford the data usage.
I'm having the same issue, and it's not like Device Maintenance and BetterBatteryStats are showing anything suspicious at all. One night idle time is nice, then on other nights i find it having a decrease of 15%.
This is my battery statistics screenshot
firefoxrebo said:
This is my battery statistics screenshot
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Your Android System drain is way too high...something wrong there for sure...
If you haven't already, do a full wipe/ factory reset. This fixes most problems, including battery drain, after a major update.
rile1564 said:
If you haven't already, do a full wipe/ factory reset. This fixes most problems, including battery drain, after a major update.
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I have done this twice man. Still the same. I am sure this stupid company is doing something in this update.
firefoxrebo said:
I have done this twice man. Still the same. I am sure this stupid company is doing something in this update.
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Have you tried better battery stats? Do you use the app power monitor in the Note 8 settings at all? It's got to be some of your apps or saved settings...
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This is my battery statistics screenshot
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Wow!! Android system is killing it. Dude, I had the same issue on nougat. Not sure if it'll work on Oreo, but try it: turn off wifi completely. Use cellular if you can for a day or two. Do this after a full recharge so battery stats have resetted so you can see if that makes a difference.
Also, use Betterbatterystats and give it permissions on adb. Post screenshots from that. The one you posted already isn't telling at all.
I downgraded it to Nogut and I think I am fine now. F**k this update. I think this company is intending this sh*t to push up its sales.
Fix for battery drain for Note 8 after upgrading Oreo
1) Go to settings
2) Go to Apps
3) Click on the three dots located in the upper right hand corner.
4) Select "Reset App Preferences"
5) Power your phone off and on again and the battery draining problem should be fixed.
cthompson1972 said:
1) Go to settings
2) Go to Apps
3) Click on the three dots located in the upper right hand corner.
4) Select "Reset App Preferences"
5) Power your phone off and on again and the battery draining problem should be fixed.
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Have you tried it on your own ?
Yes. I am on my phone right now and have been on YouTube this evening with normal battery drain. After the update yesterday my battery was draining for no reason and I had to charge my phone three times. I remembered this fix from the last update when I didn't want to reset my device. I figured it had something to do with all of the Apps utilizing my location, so I wanted to do a reset of the Apps without resetting my device and it worked.
Ok as you know the phones with the Xynos chip has pretty rubbish battery life but I've found a temp fix until samsung hopefully fix the issue. You won't notice any slow down or compromise the use of your phone.
All it is is set your phone to mid battery save and keep all the settings on but limit the cpu.
You can still play all the latest games without a stutter, you can't tell the cpu is being throttled.
Try it for a day see what you think, I also have Always on Display turned off for extra savings.
Interesting, will give it a try today, been averaging 3h40m for 50% battery usage (Not run it down to 0% yet) so will be able to see if it improves much
Says it has added over 4 hours to my battery life estimate
Thanks for the suggestion, will be testing soon.
My issue with my Exynos S9 is the standby. It's not completely terrible unless I'm in a crowded bar or an area with zero reception, but I can never get it to be good. Even with everything disabled (location, sync, AOD, lots of apps, etc) I can't get it under 1.5% drain per hour. With it all on I can easily hit 5% drain per hour, sometimes more, which is weird, cause the actual SOT doesn't take much more than this; 8-10% when stationary on WiFi, 12-15% when moving on mobile data.
Seriously the SOT on this thing is great (FHD+, haven't tried QHD+ yet). I reckon I could easily hit 7 hours, possibly getting up to 10 if I'm just browsing/watching shows in bed all day. But dear god the standby is driving me nuts.
SponTen said:
Thanks for the suggestion, will be testing soon.
My issue with my Exynos S9 is the standby. It's not completely terrible unless I'm in a crowded bar or an area with zero reception, but I can never get it to be good. Even with everything disabled (location, sync, AOD, lots of apps, etc) I can't get it under 1.5% drain per hour. With it all on I can easily hit 5% drain per hour, sometimes more, which is weird, cause the actual SOT doesn't take much more than this; 8-10% when stationary on WiFi, 12-15% when moving on mobile data.
Seriously the SOT on this thing is great (FHD+, haven't tried QHD+ yet). I reckon I could easily hit 7 hours, possibly getting up to 10 if I'm just browsing/watching shows in bed all day. But dear god the standby is driving me nuts.
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Standby drain will be higher if your phone is in a pocket, doze only kicks in when the phone is sitting completely still so no sensors are active like gyro etc (unless that has changed in Oreo)
So standby overnight should be significantly better than when you're out and about with it
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Standby drain will be higher if your phone is in a pocket, doze only kicks in when the phone is sitting completely still so no sensors are active like gyro etc (unless that has changed in Oreo)
So standby overnight should be significantly better than when you're out and about with it
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Yeah makes sense, but it still drains 1% per hour overnight, whereas other phones I've used only drain about 0.5%.
SponTen said:
Yeah makes sense, but it still drains 1% per hour overnight, whereas other phones I've used only drain about 0.5%.
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1% or even 0.5% per hour is a bit much tbh, I see about 2% drain for around 8-10 hours
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1% or even 0.5% per hour is a bit much tbh, I see about 2% drain for around 8-10 hours
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That's also the consensus I've been seeing elsewhere.
No idea how to fix. Seems that only my HTC 10, which has horrible SOT (drains about 25% per hour) can get standby this good, and yet it's still worse than most other people's.
2.5% per hour on average during the day with location and sync (but not AOD) on is actually good for my S9, yet it's still poor compared to everyone else's it seems. Today, with location and sync off, I'm averaging 1.5% standby drain per hour. AccuBattery staying 86% deep sleep, whereas it's closer to 65% when location/sync are on.
idunnolol, maybe I have poor signal? I'm usually on 2-3 bars. Or maybe an app I use is sucking power? ¯\(°_o)/¯
SponTen said:
That's also the consensus I've been seeing elsewhere.
No idea how to fix. Seems that only my HTC 10, which has horrible SOT (drains about 25% per hour) can get standby this good, and yet it's still worse than most other people's.
2.5% per hour on average during the day with location and sync (but not AOD) on is actually good for my S9, yet it's still poor compared to everyone else's it seems. Today, with location and sync off, I'm averaging 1.5% standby drain per hour. AccuBattery staying 86% deep sleep, whereas it's closer to 65% when location/sync are on.
idunnolol, maybe I have poor signal? I'm usually on 2-3 bars. Or maybe an app I use is sucking power? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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There's a few people with this drain problem and up to now we're starting to think it might be related to the modem, as with the SIM removed the extra drain is gone
It also looks like it might be related to which region/CSC firmware you have running, I am running the United Kingdom O2U firmware and do not see this extra drain
But this is all theory / guesses right now, nothing solid
*Detection* said:
There's a few people with this drain problem and up to now we're starting to think it might be related to the modem, as with the SIM removed the extra drain is gone
It also looks like it might be related to which region/CSC firmware you have running, I am running the United Kingdom O2U firmware and do not see this extra drain
But this is all theory / guesses right now, nothing solid
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Yeah makes sense. I'm in Australia, not sure how to find my firmware version. I'm guessing it's in Software Information? But there are a lot of numbers.
I find the Exynos modems seem a little worse than the Snapdragon ones where I live, though it could just be the specific places where I work and travel.
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Yeah makes sense. I'm in Australia, not sure how to find my firmware version. I'm guessing it's in Software Information? But there are a lot of numbers.
I find the Exynos modems seem a little worse than the Snapdragon ones where I live, though it could just be the specific places where I work and travel.
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Samsung Phone INFO app from the play store will give you all the info you need
*Detection* said:
There's a few people with this drain problem and up to now we're starting to think it might be related to the modem, as with the SIM removed the extra drain is gone
It also looks like it might be related to which region/CSC firmware you have running, I am running the United Kingdom O2U firmware and do not see this extra drain
But this is all theory / guesses right now, nothing solid
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I think I isolated the issue by disabling extra packages last night, but I don't know which of them. Will see after tonight for sure.
Can you please enable aod (even though it will be turned off between 12-7AM) and the facebook packages for a night? It will help us narrow down the issues.
I used your settings - fb -aod and still had drain.
Will flash the O2 firmware if the drain continues overnight.
doriandiaconu said:
I think I isolated the issue by disabling extra packages last night, but I don't know which of them. Will see after tonight for sure.
Can you please enable aod (even though it will be turned off between 12-7AM) and the facebook packages for a night? It will help us narrow down the issues.
I used your settings - fb -aod and still had drain.
Will flash the O2 firmware if the drain continues overnight.
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Yea sure, so enable AOD but set it to turn itself off between 12am-7am?
Enable FB packages
I`ll set that all up tonight, then charge to 100% before bed, see where it is in the morning
*Detection* said:
Yea sure, so enable AOD but set it to turn itself off between 12am-7am?
Enable FB packages
I`ll set that all up tonight, then charge to 100% before bed, see where it is in the morning
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Thanks. Would've done it myself, but I want to know if disabling some of the services isolates the issue.
Maybe it's AOD+FB or other issue (that I might've fixed by mistake). Took this post as a reference: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76543514&postcount=49
Disabled some of the packages until I got bored + the ones you disabled.
doriandiaconu said:
Thanks. Would've done it myself, but I want to know if disabling some of the services isolates the issue.
Maybe it's AOD+FB or other issue (that I might've fixed by mistake). Took this post as a reference: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76543514&postcount=49
Disabled some of the packages until I got bored + the ones you disabled.
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I've always disabled both tbh, only left FB package manager or whatever it is needed for the GearVR on my S7 for a while when I was using the Gear, but got bored of that and disabled them all, AOD gets disabled straight away, phone definitely cannot be as deep sleeping if that is active, and the screen is using power the whole time too, albeit only the pixels that are lit, but still more than having it 100% off
I tested with AOD on and off on my S7 and got huge overnight drain with it enabled vs off, same throughout the day, the phone couldn't enter Doze fully iirc
*Detection* said:
I've always disabled both tbh, only left FB package manager or whatever it is needed for the GearVR on my S7 for a while when I was using the Gear, but got bored of that and disabled them all, AOD gets disabled straight away, phone definitely cannot be as deep sleeping if that is active, and the screen is using power the whole time too, albeit only the pixels that are lit, but still more than having it 100% off
I tested with AOD on and off on my S7 and got huge overnight drain with it enabled vs off, same throughout the day, the phone couldn't enter Doze fully iirc
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I didn't think AOD will drain battery since it's turned off in that interval? I had a OK drain after factory reset with AOD on. So idk what the hell is happening.
doriandiaconu said:
I didn't think AOD will drain battery since it's turned off in that interval? I had a OK drain after factory reset with AOD on. So idk what the hell is happening.
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I meant when I left it enabled and on the display the whole time, different phone and different version of Android though
Maybe after the factory reset, because the system apps are back to their original versions, drain is OK, then when they update back to the newest the bug is brought back? Or are you updating everything 100% before testing?
Samsung system apps get updated from the Samsung app store too so you'd need to sign into a Samsung account to update those iirc
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I meant when I left it enabled and on the display the whole time, different phone and different version of Android though
Maybe after the factory reset, because the system apps are back to their original versions, drain is OK, then when they update back to the newest the bug is brought back? Or are you updating everything 100% before testing?
Samsung system apps get updated from the Samsung app store too so you'd need to sign into a Samsung account to update those iirc
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Everything was up to date before testing. So I have no idea what is causing the drain to lag.
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Samsung Phone INFO app from the play store will give you all the info you need
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I think I'm on ARD4? That's the last 4 numbers of Bootloader and PDA Version. CSC is ARCA and Baseband is ARD6.
I've already got FB disabled, amongst pretty much anything unnecessary. Although I do use FB Messenger as everyone where I live uses it.
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I think I'm on ARD4? That's the last 4 numbers of Bootloader and PDA Version. CSC is ARCA and Baseband is ARD6.
I've already got FB disabled, amongst pretty much anything unnecessary. Although I do use FB Messenger as everyone where I live uses it.
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ARD4 is the firmware before latest, apparently the latest BRE5 fixes some drain bugs and other things
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doriandiaconu said:
Everything was up to date before testing. So I have no idea what is causing the drain to lag.
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Ah well, we'll see tomorrow if FB / AOD causes it for me, if not then at least you've disabled whatever was causing it
Export your package disabler list and save on a PC for future in case you reset again
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ARD4 is the firmware before latest, apparently the latest BRE5 fixes some drain bugs and other things
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I have heard that. Will defs be testing, cheers.
I've had Android Pie for about 5 days and I have found that my battery life is dropping like a rock.
I don't ever have my brightness on more than like 20% and I have found I am losing about 10% battery life after using my phone about 20 minutes.
What the hell?
Here's a screenshot of some stats...
You use many jank drainers apps. This is not android issue or rom issue. Your phone is not debloated. Your deepsleep is bad too. Your cpu clearly no sleep correct. Debloat your phone from this jank drainer apps. Use adhell if no have root for debloat and freezing jank apps and service. If you have root change rom and kernel and beloat with titanium backup. The brightness is the last part who gives you the extra battery. If you dont clean your phone dont expect good batterylife. Note 8 is not a battery phone.
y0000 said:
You use many jank drainers apps. This is not android issue or rom issue. Your phone is not debloated. Your deepsleep is bad too. Your cpu clearly no sleep correct. Debloat your phone from this jank drainer apps. Use adhell if no have root for debloat and freezing jank apps and service. If you have root change rom and kernel and beloat with titanium backup. The brightness is the last part who gives you the extra battery. If you dont clean your phone dont expect good batterylife. Note 8 is not a battery phone.
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What is a jank drainer?
You mean junk drainer?
Which should I remove?
I am not rooted.
Dankees said:
What is a jank drainer?
You mean junk drainer?
Which should I remove?
I am not rooted.
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xda have so many tutorials how to debloat your phone correct. And how to boost up your battery. If you search you will find many of them.
Thanks.
I'm a novice. What can I do without rooting?
Dankees said:
Thanks.
I'm a novice. What can I do without rooting?
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Disable applications, using a Package disabler app.
Its not even necessary to use a package disabler
The usage of nova launcher is not normal.
Did you do a clean install after the pie upgrade?
Reaper1337 said:
Its not even necessary to use a package disabler
The usage of nova launcher is not normal.
Did you do a clean install after the pie upgrade?
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What do you mean?
Uninstall it and reinstall it with a back-up?
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Disable applications, using a Package disabler app.
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Which one?
The battery life on my Note 8 is pretty good running on Pie. If I am not gaming on it, I can easily get 1 and 1/2 days use out of it.
iceepyon said:
The battery life on my Note 8 is pretty good running on Pie. If I am not gaming on it, I can easily get 1 and 1/2 days use out of it.
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How? Please show your settings!
I run it with no battery issues. It lasts me for the whole work day from 7 to 5 and later on to when I go to bed.
I do see you use battery management apps that do nothing but waste more battery. It's more reasonable to use the built in one in Device Care or close apps you don't use. Also use Dark Mode. Lowers Battery Consumption and easier for your eyes plus it looks good.
I run it at WQHD+ and AOD On. No Power Saving Enabled
the Android update sucks! youtube has no on screen brightness or volume control now and the video scrubbing (ff & rew) is gone plus no more saving the video. the zoom on the shutter button is gone now for the camera...
My battery life is wack on Pie, honestly. I've tried fresh installs and apps like wakelock blockers, and I can still barely last a school day. I honestly think it's my battery in terms of its health. Stock Pie seems unoptimised to me.
Though it is known the whole "calibration" stuff helps, e.g waiting 3 days for the system to sleep things, or going 100 - 0 - 100 to see if that might help. It did help me for a while.
Visera said:
My battery life is wack on Pie, honestly. I've tried fresh installs and apps like wakelock blockers, and I can still barely last a school day. I honestly think it's my battery in terms of its health. Stock Pie seems unoptimised to me.
Though it is known the whole "calibration" stuff helps, e.g waiting 3 days for the system to sleep things, or going 100 - 0 - 100 to see if that might help. It did help me for a while.
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Waiting for the system to sleep things for three days?
The April security update fixed my battery woes.
Is there any battery life issue that anyone may have encountered ever since the previous two updates.. my 6000mah battery that used to stay for 2 days minimum has gone to a single day. It's all been after the update and i saw plenty of forums in Asus itself of the same thing.
Reference :- https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/54786/battery-drain-issue-on-rog-3
Anyone got any leads for this?
You're just overthinking. Stop staring at the battery percentage 24/7 and enjoy the damn phone.
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You're just overthinking. Stop staring at the battery percentage 24/7 and enjoy the damn phone.
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You damn right! But how, bro. When u were accustomed to charging ur phone once in two days and you have to subtract 24 hours from that.. it surw changes the usage from a gaming plus daily driver to either one of the lot .. change for the bad questions a lot of stuff
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You damn right! But how, bro. When u were accustomed to charging ur phone once in two days and you have to subtract 24 hours from that.. it surw changes the usage from a gaming plus daily driver to either one of the lot .. change for the bad questions a lot of stuff
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What is your battery usage? Have you tried a factory reset?
What is showing as consuming most power? An optimized debloated ROG 3 with a healthy can go a week on stand-by with data enabled and even longer (no kidding) and easily 2-2.5 days with normal use.
You have to pinpoint what is doing it. It's wearing down your battery as well...
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What is your battery usage? Have you tried a factory reset?
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Yes, twice. Still does the same thing.
Andrologic said:
What is showing as consuming most power? An optimized debloated ROG 3 with a healthy can go a week on stand-by with data enabled and even longer (no kidding) and easily 2-2.5 days with normal use.
You have to pinpoint what is doing it. It's wearing down your battery as well...
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I tried, actually. The thing is i fear the Android system itself. Coz in one of the threads on the Asus website forums, there were people discussing Play Store or Play activities that keep auto restarting and also twin apps.
So for starters i did try to force close play services (can't disable coz of the emails), then battery turned out great. But afterwards it started reducing again. Same with twin apps.
I ain't kidding too. It's supposed to a 2-2.5day phone easily with the 6000mah battery, but for me it's a single day max to max a 12+ (3-4) hour phone
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Yes, twice. Still does the same thing.
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Ok. I also had some battery drain (not on idle tho) and installed Kirisakura kernel, seems to have solved the issue for me. I also wiped Dalvik cahe. It may also have been the solution
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Yes, twice. Still does the same thing.
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You can also try to use the Naptime app, it forces the phone into Doze when screen is off. Adb access or root is needed
GSAM can also be used to find the culprit
If disabling Goog Play Services stops the issue, it's likely linked to one or more running apps or processes. It's likely not Play Services itself but because one or more other components are making calls to it. Try to review all the running apps & services on your device and selectively disable them and gauge the difference. Apps that do a lot of syncing, using location services, excessive notifications (cloud messaging), Firebase indexing, etc etc.... If you have a good app manager tool, that will make the hunt easier.
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You can also try to use the Naptime app, it forces the phone into Doze when screen is off. Adb access or root is needed
GSAM can also be used to find the culprit
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That's great, will try the kernel coz I still haven't rooted my phone. Does the kernel need root?
stiffis said:
Ok. I also had some battery drain (not on idle tho) and installed Kirisakura kernel, seems to have solved the issue for me. I also wiped Dalvik cahe. It may also have been the solution
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Does installing a Kernel need root access? Coz I don't want to root as of now.. and i haven't installed a Kernel ever.. is it riskier than a root?
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Ok. I also had some battery drain (not on idle tho) and installed Kirisakura kernel, seems to have solved the issue for me. I also wiped Dalvik cahe. It may also have been the solution
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That's great, will try the kernel coz I still haven't rooted my phone. Does the kernel need root?
Does installing a Kernel need root access? Coz I don't want to root as of now.. and i haven't installed a Kernel ever.. is it riskier than a root?
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Yes, this kernel requires root
Hello
Yesterday i had the phone around 65% at 01h00, in the next morning (around 7h20) i wake up to find the phone at 1%, no wifi/4G/bluetooth/GPS...etc was active, even the battery saver was ON. As you can see in the screenshots, android system drain battery around 400% !!! what's up with this behavior ? happened the 1st time last week (49% drained in 8 hours) the problem seems gone after i fully charge and than reboot, but still today happened.
The phone is almost 1 month old.
The 1st few days, i disconnected the phone from charging at 100% and went to sleep, after 6 hours battery is drained by 6% without doing nothing. is this normal ??? screenshot
ROM : crDroid 8, latest magisk installed+microg+magiskhide props config and fdroid/aurora modules installed.
Thanks
which rom are u using now? stock or custom?
sheikfahad said:
which rom are u using now? stock or custom?
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Read the post. They are using crdroid8
Arealhooman said:
Read the post. They are using crdroid8ok
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Arealhooman said:
Read the post. They are using crdroid8
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ok... is there any heating issues?
Oi69qEZ said:
Hello
Yesterday i had the phone around 65% at 01h00, in the next morning (around 7h20) i wake up to find the phone at 1%, no wifi/4G/bluetooth/GPS...etc was active, even the battery saver was ON. As you can see in the screenshots, android system drain battery around 400% !!! what's up with this behavior ? happened the 1st time last week (49% drained in 8 hours) the problem seems gone after i fully charge and than reboot, but still today happened.
The phone is almost 1 month old.
The 1st few days, i disconnected the phone from charging at 100% and went to sleep, after 6 hours battery is drained by 6% without doing nothing. is this normal ??? screenshot
ROM : crDroid 8, latest magisk installed+microg+magiskhide props config and fdroid/aurora modules installed.
Thanks
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clearly something is going wrong, I would suggest factory resetting, and optionally reinstalling your custom rom.
Oi69qEZ said:
Hello
Yesterday i had the phone around 65% at 01h00, in the next morning (around 7h20) i wake up to find the phone at 1%, no wifi/4G/bluetooth/GPS...etc was active, even the battery saver was ON. As you can see in the screenshots, android system drain battery around 400% !!! what's up with this behavior ? happened the 1st time last week (49% drained in 8 hours) the problem seems gone after i fully charge and than reboot, but still today happened.
The phone is almost 1 month old.
The 1st few days, i disconnected the phone from charging at 100% and went to sleep, after 6 hours battery is drained by 6% without doing nothing. is this normal ??? screenshot
ROM : crDroid 8, latest magisk installed+microg+magiskhide props config and fdroid/aurora modules installed.
Thanks
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well, that must a bug related to optimiztion of the rom, report it to the rom mantainer
Exactly what happened to me same ROM same phone but I didn't root it. it drained from 54% to 6% during the night, next day I switched the ambient display off and the battery became better but so far I am also looking for solutions to make it similar to miui
I feel the battery is draining so much fast when I start using the apps unlike miui but the room is also great and fast , with my light use it gave me 1 day of use and remaining of 10% with 120 fps (3.3%/hr screen on and 0.6%/h screen off )
today I will test it with 60fps
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ok... is there any heating issues?
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No, only when charging of course (around 40°)
Arealhooman said:
clearly something is going wrong, I would suggest factory resetting, and optionally reinstalling your custom rom.
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I'll wait and see if this bug happens again as right now i need the phone for the rest of the week, if happens again i might switch rom altogether on the weekend.
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well, that must a bug related to optimiztion of the rom, report it to the rom mantainer
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yeah i'll do that. ty
Johnton said:
Exactly what happened to me same ROM same phone but I didn't root it. it drained from 54% to 6% during the night, next day I switched the ambient display off and the battery became better but so far I am also looking for solutions to make it similar to miui
I feel the battery is draining so much fast when I start using the apps unlike miui but the room is also great and fast , with my light use it gave me 1 day of use and remaining of 10% with 120 fps (3.3%/hr screen on and 0.6%/h screen off )
today I will test it with 60fps
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Wow, 3.3%/hr is seriously impressive for active drain, especially for 120hz. Can I ask you if you did anything special / your exact setup? I installed Ricedroid 8.0 + Sleepy kernel and applied the GMS Doze module + Naptime (as suggested by a kind poster on here), and this allowed my idle drain to go down to 0.2%/hr, but my active drain is still struggling a bit.
Linkoh said:
Wow, 3.3%/hr is seriously impressive for active drain, especially for 120hz. Can I ask you if you did anything special / your exact setup? I installed Ricedroid 8.0 + Sleepy kernel and applied the GMS Doze module + Naptime (as suggested by a kind poster on here), and this allowed my idle drain to go down to 0.2%/hr, but my active drain is still struggling a bit.
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to be honest I am not sure if I report it correctly I have used accubattry app but I will post few screenshots from the app and you can see , I didn't do anything except disable the ambient display maybe my usage is light in default I don't know I also formatted the phone like 20 times during my testing for different ROMs. I found Cr-droid to be the best so far or miui
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to be honest I am not sure if I report it correctly I have used accubattry app but I will post few screenshots from the app and you can see , I didn't do anything except disable the ambient display maybe my usage is light in default I don't know I also formatted the phone like 20 times during my testing for different ROMs. I found Cr-droid to be the best so far or miui
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Ohh the 3.3%/hr is combined use, which takes account of both active drain and idle drain (through what I guess is some weighted average). But honestly, 6.7%/hr (or even 7.8%/hr tbh) is still pretty damn impressive, so I'll thank you for letting me know! Now I wanna flash crDroid haha.
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Ohh the 3.3%/hr is combined use, which takes account of both active drain and idle drain (through what I guess is some weighted average). But honestly, 6.7%/hr (or even 7.8%/hr tbh) is still pretty damn impressive, so I'll thank you for letting me know! Now I wanna flash crDroid haha.
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I spent 1 day and half trying all custom roms in this forum because for long time I was on miui and didn't know how custom ROMs are now , after trying I found that all custom ROMs either are pixel flavored or very basic without any customization and I settled with Cr-droid because it offers best of both worlds less google and good customization options.
now regarding the battery after few days of using on 60 fps I have combined use 2.4%/hr and 0.8% screen off but I still feel that it drains fast during my usage compared to Miui , I have only used naptime for optimization do you advise me to add anything else for non-rooted device ?
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I spent 1 day and half trying all custom roms in this forum because for long time I was on miui and didn't know how custom ROMs are now , after trying I found that all custom ROMs either are pixel flavored or very basic without any customization and I settled with Cr-droid because it offers best of both worlds less google and good customization options.
now regarding the battery after few days of using on 60 fps I have combined use 2.4%/hr and 0.8% screen off but I still feel that it drains fast during my usage compared to Miui , I have only used naptime for optimization do you advise me to add anything else for non-rooted device ?
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MIUI very often switches off alarm (not clock alarm) and wakeups -- it's known for long. Your notifications often comes late when using MIUI. In real life situation, however you might never notice it, but it's there. It also sets higher priorities to known messaging, social media apps to receive notification/action faster than any apps that are outside "the list".
It's a good trade off for battery life compares to stock AOSP or lineage which put every apps on generic list of "optimized battery" based on your pattern. It will took a long before the pattern is useable.
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I spent 1 day and half trying all custom roms in this forum because for long time I was on miui and didn't know how custom ROMs are now , after trying I found that all custom ROMs either are pixel flavored or very basic without any customization and I settled with Cr-droid because it offers best of both worlds less google and good customization options.
now regarding the battery after few days of using on 60 fps I have combined use 2.4%/hr and 0.8% screen off but I still feel that it drains fast during my usage compared to Miui , I have only used naptime for optimization do you advise me to add anything else for non-rooted device ?
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I'm not sure about your possibilities on a non-rooted device honestly. I think Naptime can work on a non-rooted device, if you grant a few permissions through ADB first (if I remember correctly, the app itself will guide you through the process). Be mindful of which apps you're restricting though, as Naptime will likely cause delays in the arrival of notifications. You can whitelist apps through Android's battery restriction screen.
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I'm not sure about your possibilities on a non-rooted device honestly. I think Naptime can work on a non-rooted device, if you grant a few permissions through ADB first (if I remember correctly, the app itself will guide you through the process). Be mindful of which apps you're restricting though, as Naptime will likely cause delays in the arrival of notifications. You can whitelist apps through Android's battery restriction screen.
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yes I am it currently after activation via ADB it made some improvement I felt , so far the highest consuming system apps are : Android OS [19%] screen [9%] and System UI [6%] can I do something about them ?
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yes I am it currently after activation via ADB it made some improvement I felt , so far the highest consuming system apps are : Android OS [19%] screen [9%] and System UI [6%] can I do something about them ?
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Hmm I don't have any further tips honestly, not about these specific things. In my case, using Naptime already improves battery life by a ton over the course of a day (not wasting entire %s in hours of idle time is already huge).
Try and see if greenify or its replacements helps.