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[Q] Best Car Charger

I am looking for best car charger, my phone will be all day on in the car, and I am looking for best solution for charging in the car, and fastest.
I found few good chargers but not sure are they support quick charge
Samsung OEM ECA-U21CBE Micro-USB 2-Amp Rapid In-Car Power Charger
and
Car Charger, iOttie RapidVolt 5Amp/25-Watt Dual Port USB Car Charger
Or is there some third better solution? Sorry I can't post links
thank you

anything above 2A is consider fast/rapid charge and barely any difference than the "quick charge" not to mention, saving a few mintues might do more harm than good to your replaceable battery.. at 2A, the phone will go from 6-10% battery to 50% in about 25 minutes.
Anker:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D82O68Y/
Ottie:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KTBOUWO/
I have the Anker and would buy it again, and has tons of positive reviews..

Thank you, what about Verizon Quick Charge 2.0?

I have used Verizon QUALCOMM version and would recommend the quick charge version if you want to take advantage of the quick charge. If time to charge I not an issue then obviously any high amp charger like the units cited above such as iottie would work

Is quick charge healthy for battery in my case? Or maybe should I get slower one?

I am using the Airdock.
While I can't say I loved it with the S5 (was falling off) the flat back of the Edge fits perfectly on it so I'm much happier with it.
Fun streaming video, back passengers can watch video off of it with the car speakers...
works well.

rhesus98 said:
While I can't say I loved it with the S5 (was falling off) the flat back of the Edge fits perfectly on it so I'm much happier with it.
Fun streaming video, back passengers can watch video off of it with the car speakers...
works well.
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I think we are talking about chargers

TozABG said:
I think we are talking about chargers
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Airdock is a wireless charger.

TozABG said:
Is quick charge healthy for battery in my case? Or maybe should I get slower one?
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faster charging will always put a bit more wear on battery than charging at a slower rate. most people here will probably swap devices often so probably doesn't matter for them. if you plan to keep your device for a few years and want max battery life then maybe use a 5V 2A charger instead (one that i've linked to above).
2A is still "fast charge" the only difference is it's Quick Charge 1.0 which is at 5 Volts compared to Quick Charge 2.0 that runs at 9 Volts.
better example:
Quick Charge 1.0 - 5V @ 2A (5V * 2A) = 10 Watts of power
If your phone is at around 8-10% you'll get to about 50% charge in about 30 minutes.
Quick Charge 2.0 - 9V @ 1.7A (9V * 1.7A) = 15 Watts of power (up to 12V * 3A = 36 watts for some tablets)
If your phone is at around 8-10% you'll get to about 50% charge in about 20-25 minutes.
Quick Charge 2.0 will only be a little bit faster once the battery gets to around 50-60%, then it will throttle down to Quick Charge 1.0 rates to keep the battery from getting too hot and causing excessive wear.
All Quick Charge 2.0 devices are also backwards compatible with Quick Charge 1.0, meaning that you can use a Quick Charge 2.0 device with a Quick Charge 1.0 supply, and visa versa.
In short: Quick Charge 2.0 will only save you about 15 minutes to completely charge your phone compared to the normal 5V @ 2A chargers.

Get Verizons branded car charger with fast charge. Workscexcellent, and AND has a little flashlight right above the micro charge plug, which comes in super handy in dark car. Very well made.

tft said:
anything above 2A is consider fast/rapid charge and barely any difference than the "quick charge" not to mention, saving a few mintues might do more harm than good to your replaceable battery.. at 2A, the phone will go from 6-10% battery to 50% in about 25 minutes.
Anker:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D82O68Y/
Ottie:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KTBOUWO/
I have the Anker and would buy it again, and has tons of positive reviews..
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Thats not true, Yes its better
if you want Fast charge it has to have 9v out
others have 5v out even tho some have a 2.4amp out not a fast rapid charger

Good Car charger
Search Amazon for ASIN:B00ZA1E3IE

I've got two of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Getwow-Charge-Dual-Port-Charger-Adapter/dp/B00V347I9S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437142458&sr=8-2&keywords=getwow+quick+charge+2.0&pebp=1437142467005&perid=0CTJ7JA68RAQ65CF2GVN
One in my car for my S6 Edge, one in my wife's SUV for her Note 4. Both work fantastic. They have one QC 2.0 port and one 2A port. Check it out!

Not sure whether this Car Air Conditioner Vent Mount is for you or not.

This looks like same as adaptive fast wall charger:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-LN915UBESTA
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X4JGELS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Did anyone try it?

shaq1907 said:
This looks like same as adaptive fast wall charger:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-LN915UBESTA
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X4JGELS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Did anyone try it?
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I bought this one. Didn't fully test yet but when I plug this, it says "fast charging". It would be better if this has light notification. But it's good that it charges fast.

No Fast Charge

I just bought a Xz1 compact. It works great except that it won't fast charge; I've tried using the charger that came with phone and another I had lying around. Is there anything I can do for a fix? I checked the battery settings to make sure none of the options were enabled. I tried disabling Battery Care, but it didn't help.

Is your charger Sony Quick Charger UCH12?
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch12/

t020608 said:
Is your charger Sony Quick Charger UCH12?
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch12/
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It's definitely the same shape. No model # tho.

The stock charger included in the XZ1 Compact retail box is only 1.5A, it isn't a fast charger and will not fast charge the phone. You will need to get a Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0 compatible charger for fast charging.

RonJeremyClarkson said:
The stock charger included in the XZ1 Compact retail box is only 1.5A, it isn't a fast charger and will not fast charge the phone. You will need to get a Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0 compatible charger for fast charging.
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That's quite cheap of them. The other charger I tried would fast charge my LG G5. Shouldn't it do that same for the XZ1?

adam79 said:
That's quite cheap of them. The other charger I tried would fast charge my LG G5. Shouldn't it do that same for the XZ1?
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What are the specifications of the other charger?

RonJeremyClarkson said:
What are the specifications of the other charger?
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It's an Anker QuickCharge 3.0

adam79 said:
It's an Anker QuickCharge 3.0
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That charger should fast charge the XZ1C then. I did some searching and found out that unlike other manufacturers, Sony phones will not indicate anywhere when the phone is being fast charged:
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ1-Compact/Quick-Charge-Not-Working/m-p/1281209/highlight/true#M1178
There is an app called Ampere on the Play Store that will show how fast the phone is being charged, but it isn't 100% accurate. The best way to find out would be to simply measure the charging times from empty to full.

I have tested alot of chargers..even a 80 USD USB PD 61w. This damn phone wont charge faster than 1.6 amps @ 5v
Is it some kind of software limitation? I had the P20 and it charges fast as hell with QC3.0. 0-80% in 40mins.
I tested this Xz1 and it took nearly 70mins 0-80% with battery optimization off.
Sony claims and i belive them that battery life will last longer,, but who gives a ****. I want qc3.0 charging speed.
Charging at 5v and around 1.5amps. Ive read somewhere that the battery gets to warm charging like [email protected]
So its not adaptable, i placed my phone with its charger connected thru the window (-2 C) and it had like 2%.
This damn phone is restricted to 1.5-1.6 ampere (5v)..it wont go faster. So why is it QC3.0 cert?
This annoys me alot..isnt there a 30w charger? I guess it wont help.
Im gonna buy one of those plugs that show you amps, wattage and so on..doesnt believe the software you can download.
I believe that XZ1 Compact IS QC3.0 but battery get to warm, so they reduce charging speed...

I personally prefer no fast charge. The physically life of the battery last longer. My Nexus 6P had fast charge, it's not holding up for 2 hours now.

I have read somewhere that you have to disable all the battery saver stuff in order for QuickCharge to fully have effect.
However, even with all that enabled, my phone charges really quick from empty to full in like 2 hours.
Looks good to me.

"These devices contain the hardware necessary to achieve Quick Charge 3.0. It is at the device manufacturer’s discretion
to fully enable this feature."
About devices compatible with qc3.0
Qualcomm website

RonJeremyClarkson said:
The stock charger included in the XZ1 Compact retail box is only 1.5A, it isn't a fast charger and will not fast charge the phone. You will need to get a Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0 compatible charger for fast charging.
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The charger included in my XZ1 Compact's retail box was the Sony Quick Charger UCH12 which is a fast charger compatible with Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0. It also charges my phone reasonably fast.
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch12/specifications/

t020608 said:
The charger included in my XZ1 Compact's retail box was the Sony Quick Charger UCH12 which is a fast charger compatible with Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0. It also charges my phone reasonably fast.
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch12/specifications/
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Interesting, what country did you get the XZ1C in? In most regions the included charger is the non-fast charging UCH20:
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/usb-charger-uch20/

RonJeremyClarkson said:
Interesting, what country did you get the XZ1C in? In most regions the included charger is the non-fast charging UCH20:
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/usb-charger-uch20/
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My XZ1C region is Taiwan.

4rz0 said:
I have read somewhere that you have to disable all the battery saver stuff in order for QuickCharge to fully have effect.
However, even with all that enabled, my phone charges really quick from empty to full in like 2 hours.
Looks good to me.
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2 hours is BAD. 2700mAh battery fully charged in 2 hours? The Huawei P20 charges its 4000mAh battery in like 45min.
The UCH20 wont pass 1.5 amps (5v).
If you turn your device off and charging and also turn off the battery opti. i believe 0-100% in like an hour..
And for those who believe its the charger are wrong. I have tried QC 3.0, QC4,0, 61W USB-c. This device is what do you say in English.."strangled" ...software limitation..
What about the XZ2 and the XZ3? Any notification ? They use the same charger i believe

2 hours? Something's wrong. U might have the right charger, but... R u sure u have a decent type c cable? Not all of them are the same (I have some experience, believe me)

maaakn said:
And for those who believe its the charger are wrong. I have tried QC 3.0, QC4,0, 61W USB-c. This device is what do you say in English.."strangled" ...software limitation..
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So you're saying that the XZ1c isn't capable of a fast charge?!!?

Dany XP said:
2 hours? Something's wrong. U might have the right charger, but... R u sure u have a decent type c cable? Not all of them are the same (I have some experience, believe me)
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Got a recommendation for a quality cable? I have a few different ones. The only name I can remember is Brexit, but I could be spelling it wrong.

I use Aukey QC 3.0 . Work great for fast charger since I use Z3C , then Z5C , now XZ1C. I use usb doctor to check volt and ampere, 9V output and 1A++, sometime got 2A when below 15% of battery.
My device is root, and use charge limit for the life time battery.

21w charging

This phone supports 21w charging, but it is only shipped with an 18W charger. (This charger seem to be able to give out 5V, 9 V (2A) and 12V (1.5A).)
Anyone have information on what version of USB-PD the phone supports? And what voltage is used to obtain 21w?
Has anyone got 21W charging working? As not all higher wattage usb-pd charges may support the 21W mode that this phone needs.

Well I can tell you do not use anything above Sony's recommended charging °W because anything above that - even with PD -- the device will intensely heat up.

JB2unique said:
Well I can tell you do not use anything above Sony's recommended charging °W because anything above that - even with PD -- the device will intensely heat up.
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Sony report 21W charging. So I'm not asking to go above Whats recommended.
I am asking more about the actual charging methodology, as the usb-pd system can be a bit complicated. And even a 45W charger may not correctly 'handshake' at 21w unless it's got the right voltage to offer.

Anyone?
No one has tried using a higher wattage PD charger?

shock-UK said:
Anyone?
No one has tried using a higher wattage PD charger?
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My Xiaomi 30W 1A1C charger (which supports USB PD 2.0 over the C port I believe) negotiates 7V/3A to hit the 21W.

JB2unique said:
Well I can tell you do not use anything above Sony's recommended charging °W because anything above that - even with PD -- the device will intensely heat up.
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Winrahr said:
My Xiaomi 30W 1A1C charger (which supports USB PD 2.0 over the C port I believe) negotiates 7V/3A to hit the 21W.
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Nice. That is an interesting combination. I thought it might do it at higher voltage.
How are you measuring it? I'm thinking of getting a usb measuring display.

shock-UK said:
Nice. That is an interesting combination. I thought it might do it at higher voltage.
How are you measuring it? I'm thinking of getting a usb measuring display.
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Me too, I thought it'd be doing 12V/1.8A or something but 7V/3A makes sense. Definitely should make sure the cable is quality enough to support 3A. As an aside, the phone charges at 5V/1.5A for all non USB-PD compliant chargers.
I measured with a super cheap USB C meter that I've been sticking into random chargers for curiosity sake. Highly recommended :laugh:

Ok, ordered an Usb pd 3.0 charger today, the Arcanite one. As it also has a PPS option.
Also ordered as usb c power meter.
Let's see if it does the same voltage combination with this charger.

I just looked more into the USB-PD spec and I believe you'd need a PD3.0 compatible charger to hit the 21W since the charger needs to support PPS to hit 7V/3A. Otherwise I'm assuming it would negotiate to 5V/3A or 9V/2A if the charger doesn't have a 7V step.

So got a charger with PPS support (a USB-PD 3.0) an up to 30w charging. An Anker USB c to c cable with 60W support.
And using a satechi voltage / current measuring device.
But something isn't correct. It could be the usb-c voltage measure.
Using the supplied 18W charger, it's displaying 5.27V, 2.78A. that's roughly 15W. ( Picture attached).
Using the new 30W charger, it's displaying 6.44V, 2.77A. that's roughly 18W. ( Picture attached).
Still need to do more testing, not sure why I'm getting these readings. A bit below what I was expecting.

shock-UK said:
So got a charger with PPS support (a USB-PD 3.0) an up to 30w charging. An Anker USB c to c cable with 60W support.
And using a satechi voltage / current measuring device.
But something isn't correct. It could be the usb-c voltage measure.
Using the supplied 18W charger, it's displaying 5.27V, 2.78A. that's roughly 15W. ( Picture attached).
Using the new 30W charger, it's displaying 6.44V, 2.77A. that's roughly 18W. ( Picture attached).
Still need to do more testing, not sure why I'm getting these readings. A bit below what I was expecting.
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What battery % is your phone at? You also have to remember that the closer the phone is to 100%, the charging speed will slow down.
I have an Anker 30W charger and can charge at speeds of at least 3500 mAh (based on Ampere reading).

The battery was around 35%. Yes you are right once it got over 50% the charging rate does show down a bit.
Also the Ampere app was displaying 3600 or 3500 as the current. But even if we calculate that, that's only about 18W. But that app isn't very good at measuring charging voltage or current.

The charger's specifications are attached below,

Actually, did anybody find a 21W charger compliant with our device??? (I mean really delivering 21W...)
Edit:
I've ordered the Samsung Ultra Fast Charge 25W (ref: EP-TA800XBEGWW)
It is PD 3.0 PPS and delivers 3.3-5.9V at 3A or 3.3-11.0V at 2.25A.
I hope that will work...

nreuge said:
Actually, did anybody find a 21W charger compliant with our device??? (I mean really delivering 21W...)
Edit:
I've ordered the Samsung Ultra Fast Charge 25W (ref: EP-TA800XBEGWW)
It is PD 3.0 PPS and delivers 3.3-5.9V at 3A or 3.3-11.0V at 2.25A.
I hope that will work...
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I have the Samsung EP-TA800 25W charger from a Samsung Galaxy A71 5G. On low battery with my USB tester, I measured 22W (9V/2.5A) when charging my A71 but only 15W (5.5V/2.7A) when charging my Xperia 1 ii. Were you able to do better with this Samsung charger?
In fact, I have been testing all my PD chargers (about a dozen in total -- I might have a problem!), and none has been able to charge my Xperia 1 ii at more than 18W. That's certainly decent, but it would be nice to get the 21W that the hardware is capable of.

mikew99 said:
I have the Samsung EP-TA800 25W charger from a Samsung Galaxy A71 5G. On low battery with my USB tester, I measured 22W (9V/2.5A) when charging my A71 but only 15W (5.5V/2.7A) when charging my Xperia 1 ii. Were you able to do better with this Samsung charger?
In fact, I have been testing all my PD chargers (about a dozen in total -- I might have a problem!), and none has been able to charge my Xperia 1 ii at more than 18W. That's certainly decent, but it would be nice to get the 21W that the hardware is capable of.
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I've not finished my tests, answers soon...

mikew99 said:
I have the Samsung EP-TA800 25W charger from a Samsung Galaxy A71 5G. On low battery with my USB tester, I measured 22W (9V/2.5A) when charging my A71 but only 15W (5.5V/2.7A) when charging my Xperia 1 ii. Were you able to do better with this Samsung charger?
In fact, I have been testing all my PD chargers (about a dozen in total -- I might have a problem!), and none has been able to charge my Xperia 1 ii at more than 18W. That's certainly decent, but it would be nice to get the 21W that the hardware is capable of.
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I've finished my tests.
Both Sony charger 18W and Samsung EP-TA800 25W charger take 37 mn to charge from 20% to 70%. So, the extra power of the EP-TA800 cannot be used by our device, it does not provide the correct electrical intensity...

Finally, I've ordered the ARCANITE Premium PD 3.0 QC4 PPS 30W charger as mentionned above.

I've received the ARCANITE Premium PD 3.0 QC4 PPS 30W charger and I've done the tests.
To charge from 20% to 70%, the Sony charge takes 37 mn and the ARCANITE charger takes 36 mn (tests done in aiplane mode).
The small difference occurs below 50%.

nreuge said:
I've received the ARCANITE Premium PD 3.0 QC4 PPS 30W charger and I've done the tests.
To charge from 20% to 70%, the Sony charge takes 37 mn and the ARCANITE charger takes 36 mn (tests done in aiplane mode).
The small difference occurs below 50%.
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Thanks for the update. It seems like the ARCANITE might not be delivering the 21W as hoped.
I also ordered yet another charger, the Baseus BS-C915, which allegedly supports PPS. The PPS designation appears in some pictures, but the specifications describe only a range of voltages (3.3-11V @ 3A).
With the Baseus, I get just under 18W (6.6V @ 2.7A) when charging my Xperia 1 ii. It's kind of strange that Sony claims 21W charging but doesn't include a 21W charger and doesn't even provide the specs for one!

33W Charger

Are there any other devices with the same power output? I have various Oneplus chargers, and a couple of Quick charge 3.0, but would like a spare fast charger.

MarkRobert said:
Are there any other devices with the same power output? I have various Oneplus chargers, and a couple of Quick charge 3.0, but would like a spare fast charger.
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You can buy the xiaomi 27W QC4 charger it does 27-35W

realme x2 pro has 50W, so something there shud fit

I've tried various chargers but the SOC was >85% so it wasn't a proper test. With most charger (QC or PD) I've gotten 15W, including with my 65W PD laptop charger. With the original charger I got 20-22W. If it's important to check the power, I can wait until it's discharged and redo the tests, which I plan to do anyway.
For travelling, I find it a lot more useful to have the 36W (18W QC + 18W PD?) cheap Amazon charger with 2xUSB-A and 1xUSB-C, which has the same size as the original charger: https://smile.amazon.de/gp/product/B07WFDTJFR/

Let us know how you get on. I tried my Samsung 25w charger, Pixel 3 charger and the Motorola 18w charger. All of them charge at 12-18w only. Stock charger goes to around 27w

I've now tried all the chargers and powerbanks that I have, QC3 or PD. All of them cap out at 16W, even though they can deliver more. I got the original one to charge with 30W (at 60% SOC).
The original charger is marked QC3 but they are probably not following the standard.

From my understanding the Snapdragon 732g has Quick Charge 4+ support doesn't it ?

manu1991 said:
Let us know how you get on. I tried my Samsung 25w charger, Pixel 3 charger and the Motorola 18w charger. All of them charge at 12-18w only. Stock charger goes to around 27w
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Yes, i've noticed the same. Around 27w max. Today i was charging my phone and observing the batt temperature. Kinda obvious, but the hotter the battery gets, the lower charging power it will deliver. Here in Brazil the temp this week is being around 36-42°C, so i put the phone over a bar of artificial ice. As the batt temp went under 35°C, the resultant "charging current" went to around 5500-6000mA. Doing the math, it was possible to arrive at the 27w result. (~4,5V x 6 = 27w).
When the batt temp was near 38~39°C, charging was down to 2000-2800mA (resulting to around 10-12w).
I also found something strange, it wasn't able to show the charging percentage with 2 decimals, as shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y8ja08uGEQ

Can someone give me a link for a u.s. charger for poco x3 device??

danieliswhattheycallme said:
Can someone give me a link for a u.s. charger for poco x3 device??
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maybe this?
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005001516773316.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.221f1870n5uSWW&algo_pvid=e82d72d7-5dac-413a-8e05-1657b2124e88&algo_expid=e82d72d7-5dac-413a-8e05-1657b2124e88-15&btsid=0b0a187916118446027031496e9a4e&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

For me GAN 65W chargers (Baseus) are good and universal quick chargers.
I have made a quick test in the thread Chargers and Charging speed

Question Can we charge S21U with 40W chargers?

Hi to all,
Can we charge S21U with 40W chargers? They are a lot chargers like Huawei, Xiaomi and etc... with 40W and more.

I believe the answer is yes - or at least probably. Most of those newer chargers are "Smart" in that they only provide the volts and amps that are needed by the device being charged. I may be wrong about that, but I don't think so - I don't think you have anything to worry about.

isko01 said:
Hi to all,
Can we charge S21U with 40W chargers? They are a lot chargers like Huawei, Xiaomi and etc... with 40W and more.
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Pretty sure you can, I use a 45 watt "smart" charger on my NOTE 20 Ultra without any issue.

You can use any charger that supports PD (power delivery), AFC or QC2.0
Any 45 watt USBC charger out there is going to be PD standard so you'll be fine.
The downside is, it'll still only charge at 25 watts.

I am charging my s21U with an 40w charger, works without problem. not using 40 watts of course, but its working.

The phone, all phones in fact, will ONLY charge at it's highest speed the phone allows itself to receive, the charger doesn't matter, it can be lower or higher than what the device is recommended for. A lower power charger will just take longer to charge the phone, a higher power charger will just not charge at it's full power if the phone won't accept the full power from the charger.
I've been using the 90w charger from my HP Spectre X360 my S20 Ultra since I got it without a single issue, I still get about 2 days of use per charge on that thing, and now I've been using the same laptop charger on the S21 Ultra and it works just fine.
The phone fast charges normally, doesn't get super hot, works just fine, and I only need to keep laptop chargers around the house, it's great haha

I have a 45W USB-C PD port as part of an Anker PowerPort and also the 18W charger that came with my Pixel 5. Would I notice much of an improvement in charging speed or integrity/longevity of the battery by purchasing Samsung's 25W charger?

Tmel14 said:
Would I notice much of an improvement in charging speed or integrity/longevity of the battery by purchasing Samsung's 25W charger?
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That's the charger I've been using w/ S21Ultra (25W from N10+) and I figured out I won't be needing anything bigger then that. Thanks to Samsung 'super fast charging' the 5Ah battery on s21U charges faster then 3.8mA Pixel 4a5G battery(with the same charger). +/- 1 hour and done!