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i just dont get this. i have been a member for 2 months and im just as lost as i was when i started. if i ask 1 of the people who know what to do they say search or gtfo. i search and end up more confused. the threads arent very friendly to a person just starting out like me. all of the language is written for people who already no what their doing. its not dumbed down at all. i think i will just use this site to download roms and themes since thats all i can seem to do
I am not trying to attack you or anything, but what is the purpose of this thread?
There are a lot of helpful people around here, maybe you aren't putting your questions in the Q&A thread? Or they aren't worded properly so people know how to assist you.... IDK.
Seeing as this is the only thread you have ever started here, I can't really say that it looks like you have posted much requesting help. I see one post where you were having problems flashing a new recovery image, but it looks like you probably just entered either the file name or path wrong. Or you didn't save the file in the root of your sdcard.
But, also, seeing as this is the XDA-Developers forum.... a certain level of knowledge seems to be expected by a lot of the members. I really don't see where anyone has told you to search or GTFO, in fact, I didn't really notice any responses to your posts.
If you want people to help you, post in the proper section and form coherent, explanatory questions.
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i just dont get this. i have been a member for 2 months and im just as lost as i was when i started. if i ask 1 of the people who know what to do they say search or gtfo. i search and end up more confused. the threads arent very friendly to a person just starting out like me. all of the language is written for people who already no what their doing. its not dumbed down at all. i think i will just use this site to download roms and themes since thats all i can seem to do
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I'm home sick today. What do you need help with. I'll help you out..
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I'm home sick today. What do you need help with. I'll help you out..
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See, another helpful person offering assistance..
This place isn't all that bad, now is it?
The issue is this I think...
Generally, you need to know something of what you are doing. The reasons are simple;
1) If things start to go wrong, you need to understand enough about the process to at least be able to follow instructions without them having to be written in a specific button-by-button manner,
2) People who blindly follow instructions are bound to miss a step or screw one up simply because they don't understand the instructions (this goes back to #1).
If you are a regular user of an android device, I suggest sticking with a stock build -- they are meant for people who know nothing about the platform. If you are an advanced user, you should be able to get the "gist" of things and fill in the blanks where necessary.
I'm not telling you to gtfo, what I'm telling you is that you really need to think about YOUR level of understanding of how things happen. If you aren't advanced enough to be able to fill in a few blanks here and there, then you might want to think about what you are doing, which is essentially putting a fairly expensive piece of technology into the hands of people you don't know and have no reason to trust. You also have to realize that the instructions that you get from here don't go through months of QA to verify that they are perfectly correct with no chance of, for example, bricking your phone. It is very possible that you could see a bunch of instructions that tell you what to do, but that the author maybe accidentally forgot to include a critical step, and it is absolutely UP TO YOU to be able to see that there is a missing step.
I concur. I have had numerous people ask me for help rooting their g1's. Some I help because they are computer literate and have hacked or altered software on other platforms and hardware. Those that have asked that still need help when basic things go wrong in a windows platform, I say no and tell them to enjoy their Android phone. If they are willing to dive in and learn, my offer may change down the road
What do you need help with?
okay sooo i want to root my phone but my buil number is DRC83 aaaaand im new to this whole thing soo idk.
do i do it the same as the instructions?? i dont want to mess up my phone i need a little help.
This should help
http://tinyurl.com/yc2uqmv
jaguirre1231 said:
this should help
http://tinyurl.com/yc2uqmv
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that is even cooler than mystery google!
JAguirre1231 said:
This should help
http://tinyurl.com/yc2uqmv
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Too funny.
That said, these posts in the development section are REALLY getting irritating. There should be a minimum post count before you can start a new thread in this section.
So the other sections can get spammed? Bad idea.
carnegie0107 said:
too funny.
That said, these posts in the development section are really getting irritating. There should be a minimum post count before you can start a new thread in this section.
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i agree. I agree.
Okay, so pretty epic for the smart-ass factor. I think that it's a legitimate question. Most guides posted don't make any mention of the build posted in the OP. This of course, can make individuals that aren't so adventurous a bit nervous considering that there are several threads devoted to something along the lines of "oh ****, I bricked my G1! halp!" Rather than post something like that to make them feel worse off about their foray into rooting their device, you could've provided some direct pointers. It's no wonder the forums are crowded with various posts asking for help for obvious things, it's because the only reply that people seem to get are ridiculous and degrading. Don't forget, we all started somewhere - so don't take on the elitist attitude and instead actually point them in the right direction with links that aren't degrading to them. Just because they don't understand the rooting process doesn't make them any less a human being. Now, with all that off topic nonsense aside - go to www.cyanogenmod.com and there is actually a precise guide as to how to accomplish what you're wanting to do. Contact me personally via PM and I have no problems helping you out. It's a shame that this community has resulted to belittling any newcomers with valid questions.
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Okay, so pretty epic for the smart-ass factor. I think that it's a legitimate question. Most guides posted don't make any mention of the build posted in the OP. This of course, can make individuals that aren't so adventurous a bit nervous considering that there are several threads devoted to something along the lines of "oh ****, I bricked my G1! halp!" Rather than post something like that to make them feel worse off about their foray into rooting their device, you could've provided some direct pointers. It's no wonder the forums are crowded with various posts asking for help for obvious things, it's because the only reply that people seem to get are ridiculous and degrading. Don't forget, we all started somewhere - so don't take on the elitist attitude and instead actually point them in the right direction with links that aren't degrading to them. Just because they don't understand the rooting process doesn't make them any less a human being. Now, with all that off topic nonsense aside - go to www.cyanogenmod.com and there is actually a precise guide as to how to accomplish what you're wanting to do. Contact me personally via PM and I have no problems helping you out. It's a shame that this community has resulted to belittling any newcomers with valid questions.
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Maybe if he asked in the questions and answers forum instead of development he would have got a better response....
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Maybe if he asked in the questions and answers forum instead of development he would have got a better response....
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Maybe instead of being smartasses you could have simply reported the post and had it moved.
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Okay, so pretty epic for the smart-ass factor. I think that it's a legitimate question. Most guides posted don't make any mention of the build posted in the OP. This of course, can make individuals that aren't so adventurous a bit nervous considering that there are several threads devoted to something along the lines of "oh ****, I bricked my G1! halp!" Rather than post something like that to make them feel worse off about their foray into rooting their device, you could've provided some direct pointers. It's no wonder the forums are crowded with various posts asking for help for obvious things, it's because the only reply that people seem to get are ridiculous and degrading. Don't forget, we all started somewhere - so don't take on the elitist attitude and instead actually point them in the right direction with links that aren't degrading to them. Just because they don't understand the rooting process doesn't make them any less a human being. Now, with all that off topic nonsense aside - go to www.cyanogenmod.com and there is actually a precise guide as to how to accomplish what you're wanting to do. Contact me personally via PM and I have no problems helping you out. It's a shame that this community has resulted to belittling any newcomers with valid questions.
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Thanks, I appreciate your link. Just writing here so you know someone long time after you wrote it has used this link to get an answer to a newbie question. In fact, not much of a newbie, I have installed multiple ROMs on my old WING and completely jailbroken and unlocked iPhones, but I had the same question about the DRC83 build number.
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http://tinyurl.com/yc2uqmv
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Not funny, after an hour of Googling and using the useless search in XDA I run into your smartass post.
You ll just need to root via the Goldcard method. Please feel free to PM me if you need help, as I had the same build as you and have gotten the process down pretty well.
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Okay, so pretty epic for the smart-ass factor. I think that it's a legitimate question. Most guides posted don't make any mention of the build posted in the OP. This of course, can make individuals that aren't so adventurous a bit nervous considering that there are several threads devoted to something along the lines of "oh ****, I bricked my G1! halp!" Rather than post something like that to make them feel worse off about their foray into rooting their device, you could've provided some direct pointers. It's no wonder the forums are crowded with various posts asking for help for obvious things, it's because the only reply that people seem to get are ridiculous and degrading. Don't forget, we all started somewhere - so don't take on the elitist attitude and instead actually point them in the right direction with links that aren't degrading to them. Just because they don't understand the rooting process doesn't make them any less a human being. Now, with all that off topic nonsense aside - go to www.cyanogenmod.com and there is actually a precise guide as to how to accomplish what you're wanting to do. Contact me personally via PM and I have no problems helping you out. It's a shame that this community has resulted to belittling any newcomers with valid questions.
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Yes, but we started before the threads were made about rooting and stuff... but I agree people should stop wasting space posting crap in these threads.
been floating around here for a while now, followed procedures on many phones over the years. i've recently acquired a droid turbo on verizon. i followed computerfreek's process and flashed his 1.5.2a image with ad blocking and no bloat. i must say. he did an awesome job.
heres my problem. and this may be silly but please bear with me. whenever i attempt to reply in most of these threads i get the newb error.. (must have 10 posts etc) i understand the reasoning behind it. but how in the world .. rather. where on xda, can i post 10 times to be able to post once in the dev thread? i've been wanting to tell him good job and send him some money for all his hard work.
can anyone enlighten me on how to get the 10 minimum posts in order to speak as a normal human being elsewhere?
thanks much
secretagentmann007 said:
been floating around here for a while now, followed procedures on many phones over the years. i've recently acquired a droid turbo on verizon. i followed computerfreek's process and flashed his 1.5.2a image with ad blocking and no bloat. i must say. he did an awesome job.
heres my problem. and this may be silly but please bear with me. whenever i attempt to reply in most of these threads i get the newb error.. (must have 10 posts etc) i understand the reasoning behind it. but how in the world .. rather. where on xda, can i post 10 times to be able to post once in the dev thread? i've been wanting to tell him good job and send him some money for all his hard work.
can anyone enlighten me on how to get the 10 minimum posts in order to speak as a normal human being elsewhere?
thanks much
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There is a Question Forum for questions, this thread doesn't belong to General Forum; you should read the XDA rules first, they are kind of few but important.
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secretagentmann007 said:
been floating around here for a while now, followed procedures on many phones over the years. i've recently acquired a droid turbo on verizon. i followed computerfreek's process and flashed his 1.5.2a image with ad blocking and no bloat. i must say. he did an awesome job.
heres my problem. and this may be silly but please bear with me. whenever i attempt to reply in most of these threads i get the newb error.. (must have 10 posts etc) i understand the reasoning behind it. but how in the world .. rather. where on xda, can i post 10 times to be able to post once in the dev thread? i've been wanting to tell him good job and send him some money for all his hard work.
can anyone enlighten me on how to get the 10 minimum posts in order to speak as a normal human being elsewhere?
thanks much
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Hey bud, you can go to any app forum and just thank ten devs for making an app. I'm assuming that since you made this thread, you only have nine more to go :good:
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Hey bud, you can go to any app forum and just thank ten devs for making an app. I'm assuming that since you made this thread, you only have nine more to go :good:
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Yep, this, as well as any comments he makes here, count towards the ten he needs.
Have a question but don't wanna ask it publicly? You're in luck. I do answer technical questions via PM!
One phrase I see a lot of, in one way or another, is "I don't answer technical questions through PMs". That could be for a multitude of reasons, I suppose. A user may have trouble keeping track of who is who, have a full inbox, or prefer to help publicly for the thanks and such that come from it. Regardless of why, this can put a lot of us in uncomfortable situations at times, knowing precisely who we want to ask what but having no way to do so privately. It can be really discouraging to go from helping ~15 people in a row with their issues, some complex, to not knowing where to even start on an elementary issue on your own device. Today I am hoping to put an end to that, at least for users of the Nexus 6. This thread seeks to offer assistance in a new way - I DO offer technical support via PM. I also bet some other users do too, and they are more than welcome to join in helping so long as spreading correct and helpful information remains the central goal. I welcome any user to offer support to another, just please do indicate the issue is resolved as to avoid multiple PMs from multiple accounts. If a user (or multiple) is interested in really becoming a part of this,I am not at all opposed to that either. I have no interest in doing this alone or anything like that - the more of us here helping people, the more actualized my vision for this thread has become. I will never compromise quality of answers for quota - if I am not totally sure, I either will not offer you suggestion until I am, or I'll preface it with a very clear indication of the fact that I am uncertain.
PMs aren't to be used here to walk througgh configuring someone's device, decrypting their phone or recovering from a brick, where one person's oversight could really mess things up. Directing these users to where to get said information from the guides provided and answering any subsequent questions they may have after reading said guides - that's what I am about. However, I would like for users who feel genuinely stupid or simply shy asking a certain question to have a place to ask it without feeling judged. I'd like to point you to the right place to ask your question and not second guess if it's in the right forumor thread or tagging the right dev. If your question is of a simpler nature and I am able to just answer it for you and provide helpful links/references if possible, I will. If you have a log but don't know who to submit it to, I'd like to help you figure that out. From new members who are shy to RCs who are just stuck on stupid for the moment, this thread is open to you all.
We can do this anyway you wish. For starters, my inbox is open to anyone. Please do let me know you are coming from here, as I receive a good deal of technical questions via PM as is. Or, if you prefer, simply post in here asking for a PM. I will check this thread quite regularly. If users find use for this, provisions may be made for a more organized system in the future, To all those with questions, don't be shy, now is your chance. To those of you who wish to get involved, again, don't be shy. Feel free to jump right in and start helping or to contact me, whichever is preferable. I hope to start a good thing here for the community that I have never seen done before, as this is what this is all about - the XDA community. Thanks for reading - I hope to hear from you guys!
Very nice offer of you.
I'll explain my reason for not answering PMs..well, several actually.
1) I spend all my time responding to PMs. I don't get to enjoy the forum
2) The PM relies on me only for support, when there may be better people to help
3) Questions asked in open forum benefit other members too
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Very nice offer of you.
I'll explain my reason for not answering PMs..well, several actually.
1) I spend all my time responding to PMs. I don't get to enjoy the forum
2) The PM relies on me only for support, when there may be better people to help
3) Questions asked in open forum benefit other members too
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Oh yes, I definitely appreciate that it's not something members do to be less than helpful or anything like that, especially due to #3. I would definitely rather answer a question in an open forum so others can see it than through PM. My whole reasoning for making this thread is that I think some questions will go unasked if users don't have a place they are comfortable asking them - I myself have had questions but just simply not known where to ask, and by not asking, I learned nothing. So for those cases, niche issues, etc., I am hoping that people who normally would just deal with their issue and silently be unhappy about it, or hop from ROM to ROM or kernel to kernel trying to fix something that's really a GPS issue or something, those people can hopefully find what they have been looking for - or at least a pointer in the right direction to get there. I definitely appreciate that the open forum is the best way to handle most issues most of the time - as I have yet to see this type of thread for our device, though, I'm hoping to serve the needs of the few as the masses are already being served elsewhere. I appreciate you shining some light from the perspective of someone who gets a lot of technical questions aimed at you and does not answer them via PM - definitely a good jumping off point for users to see what this thread is not for, i.e. issues that are likely gonna help other users too.
I'll answer a few hundred questions via pm, yearly. but I would rather answer them in the public forums, for everyone to see. first off, you end up helping out more people if its answered publicly. plus, if you do answer with something that's wrong, someone will come by to correct you. that way the person gets the right answer, and you will as well. I know I'm not 100% right all the time, I'm not perfect, I'm just a human being, but I still try
edit... but no matter what, I will not refuse to help anyone via pm.
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I'll answer a few hundred questions via pm, yearly. but I would rather answer them in the public forums, for everyone to see. first off, you end up helping out more people if its answered publicly. plus, if you do answer with something that's wrong, someone will come by to correct you. that way the person gets the right answer, and you will as well. I know I'm not 100% right all the time, I'm not perfect, I'm just a human being, but I still try
edit... but no matter what, I will not refuse to help anyone via pm.
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I just had to turn off PMs all together. There are a few sticky threads in a few device forums by me, so people pm me to help fix a problem on a device i haven't even owned for years. I can't remember that far back.
Everything seemed to update smoothly except one of my most used features, the mobile hotspot on Nex6. When I enable it it reports as an "error". Any help?
Flash the ex kernel, as recommended in the thread, for hotspot to function..
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Flash the BlackBird kernel. His latest is as good as it gets.
Thank you to all who put a little time and thought into helping someone out. I guess the new normal is the others who have more time to critique the subject of a question instead of simply providing a little knowledge.
Owning a Nexus device period is enough to belong to a community of people who enjoy learning about development and Android OS and the capabilities of smartphone technology. Most of us learn from trial and error or researching the internet.
Basically I'm sick of trolls who think they are the public internet forum police, lashing out at anyone who might have a question that boosts egos which hide behind the screen of anonymity. Normally I can look past these acts but sometimes you just want to use the app or site for information, questions and answers.
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Flash the ex kernel, as recommended in the thread, for hotspot to function..
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TTC
I have been using Pure Nexus 6.0.1 for near 2 years now so I didn't even think to read in detail. The title made it seem stable enough. I knew there was an simple fix. I sincerely appreciate the time and answers.:good:
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Flash the ex kernel, as recommended in the thread, for hotspot to function..
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Thanks, I wasn't aware a different kernel had to be flashed, everything seems to be working now.
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Thank you to all who put a little time and thought into helping someone out. I guess the new normal is the others who have more time to critique the subject of a question instead of simply providing a little knowledge.
Owning a Nexus device period is enough to belong to a community of people who enjoy learning about development and Android OS and the capabilities of smartphone technology. Most of us learn from trial and error or researching the internet.
Basically I'm sick of trolls who think they are the public internet forum police, lashing out at anyone who might have a question that boosts egos which hide behind the screen of anonymity. Normally I can look past these acts but sometimes you just want to use the app or site for information, questions and answers.
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Please don't take this the wrong way... Is not that people don't want to help, it's that some people don't search before posting a question. I've seen people ask a question where the answer was posted 1 minute before they asked the question. I've seen the same question get asked and answered multiple times on the same page. When you've been in a thread long enough you will see the same thing and you will say "I see what they're talking about". Me, I see the same questions, but I don't answer them with smart remarks. I just stay quiet. I've learned to search first, or wait and my problem will surely get asked about from someone else. Enjoy your phone.. And keep asking questions when you don't know the answer.
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Please don't take this the wrong way... Is not that people don't want to help, it's that some people don't search before posting a question. I've seen people ask a question where the answer was posted 1 minute before they asked the question. I've seen the same question get asked and answered multiple times on the same page. When you've been in a thread long enough you will see the same thing and you will say "I see what they're talking about". Me, I see the same questions, but I don't answer them with smart remarks. I just stay quiet. I've learned to search first, or wait and my problem will surely get asked about from someone else. Enjoy your phone.. And keep asking questions when you don't know the answer.
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Well when I'm searching for one simple answer and I see that there's thousands for posts, then the simpler solution for myself is to post a question. My issue may be different than someone else's. Regardless of any excuse I may have I still do not understand what you want me to do. Why do you feel you have to correct the way I use a site in a way that does not affect you whatsoever. It takes the topic away from a tech question and makes it about your opinion , that's not why I posted the op. Thankfully there's those who are on here that will post a solution.
So now that I've taken a few minutes to address your concern the same way you have, when it's all over and done we have both just wasted our time. I am gonna take a guess and assume that you probably share your opinion on what you disagree on with other users. Its pointless unless the point is to get a reaction from people
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Well when I'm searching for one simple answer and I see that there's thousands for posts, then the simpler solution for myself is to post a question. My issue may be different than someone else's. Regardless of any excuse I may have I still do not understand what you want me to do. Why do you feel you have to correct the way I use a site in a way that does not affect you whatsoever. It takes the topic away from a tech question and makes it about your opinion , that's not why I posted the op. Thankfully there's those who are on here that will post a solution.
So now that I've taken a few minutes to address your concern the same way you have, when it's all over and done we have both just wasted our time. I am gonna take a guess and assume that you probably share your opinion on what you disagree on with other users. Its pointless unless the point is to get a reaction from people
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Just so you know I will be logging out of XDA forums because the amount of troll activity is not even worth the simple questions answer. Btw I research way before I even consider asking someone. I posted in the ****ing Nexus 6 general troubleshooting, and I'm pretty sure my question met the requirement. You should be grateful that people like myself even use XDA at all for any information, there is only millions of other sites who offer the same info.
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Well when I'm searching for one simple answer and I see that there's thousands for posts, then the simpler solution for myself is to post a question. My issue may be different than someone else's. Regardless of any excuse I may have I still do not understand what you want me to do. Why do you feel you have to correct the way I use a site in a way that does not affect you whatsoever. It takes the topic away from a tech question and makes it about your opinion , that's not why I posted the op. Thankfully there's those who are on here that will post a solution.
So now that I've taken a few minutes to address your concern the same way you have, when it's all over and done we have both just wasted our time. I am gonna take a guess and assume that you probably share your opinion on what you disagree on with other users. Its pointless unless the point is to get a reaction from people
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Again.. No disrespect intended... And I do love to debate( my wife says that I get on her nerves). I don't consider our conversation a waste of my time. I appreciate the fact that you addressed it. Yes, you can post your way, speak freely, burn the flag, carry a weapon, rush an old lady across the street, or use politically incorrect terms if you want. I agree with your right to do it your way.
People would rather spend hours debating and telling you to search for a similar post instead of giving you 5 minutes of there time helping you. Welcome to XDA!
I had the same question as you regarding mobile hotspot. I went into the development thread, I clicked "search this thread" at the top, typed "mobile hotspot", and had my answer quicker then typing a new question.