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I recently was gifted a Kindle fire hd 7". I have a little experience in rooting and flashing OS's from an HTC tilt from maybe 5 or 6 years ago. I'm wondering what I can't do with my device in it's previous states, as in, what am I missing out on? So for Stock, Rooted, and I'm not familiar with what the choices are from their but I assume a small(or large?) variety of both homebrew and corporate OS's(like running windows on it) that people have tailored for this device. There is a wealth of knowledge on this site for how to do these things but I want to be more familiar with what I can do with all of the different states. Also, what are the limitations of Amazon's(or is it amazon's?) OS? It seems that even though it was open source this is a protected OS lacking a lot of customization not much different from an Apple OS.
Thanks in advance.
Locked kfhd is like a bigwheel. Rooted kfhd is like a Harley. I got mine as a gift too and when I first turned it on, I was disgusted by the ugly presentation of the launcher. Then I didn't like how much crap was funneling through Amazon for a price. I knew within 5 minutes of owning it that I would be looking to root it. Now, I have go launcher on here and it works great. Waiting for cm10.
Krsmqn said:
...I knew within 5 minutes of owning it that I would be looking to root it. Now, I have go launcher on here and it works great. Waiting for cm10.
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Literally rooted mine right out of the box. Never knew what true "stock" felt like, but I don't think I missed much.
Poor launcher, but most importantly google play store...
If you dont mind acquiring the apks and side loading them all and the carousel wheel, really all you lose out on is root ability thus far ive only needed that for google apps, launchers and the moga app...root gives you the ability to disable updates and ads...
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Hi guys, I was wondering if the ROM of OUYA is already available online to be changed, and if it is not it can be moved by connecting the console to the PC? Or the console's USB port is not suitable for this purpose? And having already Ouya the ROOT else is already installed the Recovery? or you have install? And how can you get into Recovery? Ok maybe it's still a bit too early for these questions since it is still in the hands only of those who have contributed to the project on Kickstarter but if anyone was informed I'd like
I"m assuming you'll be able to use ADB and what not. Ouya said, the standard Ouya can be used to develop games, so it would seem reasonable all Ouya's can be connected to a PC, and I assume the USB port will be sufficient.
As for the rest, I think it's just a tad early to know with certainty. The only well know people to have the any units are those early dev kits, and some of hardware reviewers. I haven't heard or read, nor do I believe they would release the Ouya ROM. And based on what Ouya has stated, it looks like we're getting late beta firmware/rom since they want to add more features, improve performace, and other items based on developer and early backer feedback before the June launch in retailers.
I really would like to see ROM customization for the OUYA as I feel duped by the fact that it won't run my pre-purchased play store apps and games. There's got to be a way to have both. I want this thing to replace my PS3 as my entertainment center but I must have Google music working to do so. I also want to play my purchased games like NFS.
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It'll run em, you just have to sideload it.
Ouya said the condole would be rootable and they would be including the instructions on how to do it. Now we just have to wait until someone receives theirs and see if this is true or not?
The OUYA is simple to root. I think any generic ICS root method would work. Google Glasses was rooted by Jay Freeman just by a little tweaking, and a generic. ICS root method. I'm picking up on and plan to help as much as possible.
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AgentCherryColla said:
The OUYA is simple to root. I think any generic ICS root method would work. Google Glasses was rooted by Jay Freeman just by a little tweaking, and a generic. ICS root method. I'm picking up on and plan to help as much as possible.
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It was rooted quickly because there wasn't any locks on it. One of the developers at Google even said it's hardly considered rooting because there were no barriers to break through.
Mine is sitting at home waiting for me right now, so I'll start looking into building a Custom ROM for it this weekend probably.
sonofskywalker3 said:
Mine is sitting at home waiting for me right now, so I'll start looking into building a Custom ROM for it this weekend probably.
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Just be careful, because of the lack of entering fastboot/recovery during bootup, you can easily soft brick it. I've already heard of someone messing with the system and bricking. Plus you can't really build much of an custom rom without kernel source, I wouldn't seeing an better stock but won't change much for right now.
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Just be careful, because of the lack of entering fastboot/recovery during bootup, you can easily soft brick it. I've already heard of someone messing with the system and bricking. Plus you can't really build much of an custom rom without kernel source, I wouldn't seeing an better stock but won't change much for right now.
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Thanks for the concern Paulenski, not jumping into anything without looking ahead. I'm not talking about Cyanogenmod or anything as far as custom ROM's go. I just want to put together a flashable zip that will install working gapps, su, busybox, an alternate launcher, etc. A "start here" package. Not that it could be flashed yet, but I've contacted Koush and Teamwin about porting a custom recovery.
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Thanks for the concern Paulenski, not jumping into anything without looking ahead. I'm not talking about Cyanogenmod or anything as far as custom ROM's go. I just want to put together a flashable zip that will install working gapps, su, busybox, an alternate launcher, etc. A "start here" package. Not that it could be flashed yet, but I've contacted Koush and Teamwin about porting a custom recovery.
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You get this working and there will definitly be a donation on the way.
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You get this working and there will definitly be a donation on the way.
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I appreciate that. I'm really just trying to get this working the best I can for myself, and I'll share whatever I can accomplish.
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It'll run em, you just have to sideload it.
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Not if it's a game that checks in with the Play Store before downloading additional data (like many racing games do).
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Not if it's a game that checks in with the Play Store before downloading additional data (like many racing games do).
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Fair enough. Ammend that statement to say "It'll run most sideloaded apps, provided no additonal downloads/framework is required." I hadn't actually started playing with the console when I said that.
However, if you have an android phone you might be able to install it on there, download the extra data, and copy those files/folders over to the ouya. Might be worth a shot.
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Fair enough. Ammend that statement to say "It'll run most sideloaded apps, provided no additonal downloads/framework is required." I hadn't actually started playing with the console when I said that.
However, if you have an android phone you might be able to install it on there, download the extra data, and copy those files/folders over to the ouya. Might be worth a shot.
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MIGHT work...maybe. It would be easier if someone could get gapps running. That's pretty high up there on my OUYA wishlist
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Oh I am so excited for some good customs ROM's. I am also not looking for CWM for a main ROM in general, but a amazingly beefed up Ouya layout, as its not as well as it should be visually and organized. And I know MANY will be using XBMC as a media center, I feel that should be a big part of the customs ROMs. I am loving mine so much already running the android version of XBMC. So excited for the future!!
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Fair enough. Ammend that statement to say "It'll run most sideloaded apps, provided no additonal downloads/framework is required." I hadn't actually started playing with the console when I said that.
However, if you have an android phone you might be able to install it on there, download the extra data, and copy those files/folders over to the ouya. Might be worth a shot.
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Works for a handful of games, GTA3 is the biggest. Does not work for most I've tried, including gameloft games and Carmageddon.
Unfortunately I did not keep notes when I began trying sideloading apps. I do know that some backups from Android Tuner worked when those from Titanium Backup did not. I also used ES file explorer for some backups as well.
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Works for a handful of games, GTA3 is the biggest. Does not work for most I've tried, including gameloft games and Carmageddon.
Unfortunately I did not keep notes when I began trying sideloading apps. I do know that some backups from Android Tuner worked when those from Titanium Backup did not. I also used ES file explorer for some backups as well.
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For the games that did not work did you try a different BT gamepad
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For the games that did not work did you try a different BT gamepad
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By did not work. I mean that they won't run. Some actually return an error relating to additional data files.
I don't have another BT game pad and my Logitech wingman USB does not work at all.
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soft brick achived!!
yeah i kinda need the rom as my console froze (even power button didnt work) pulled the power and now its just stuck on the "(U)" boot logo, ive not made any mods to it, and only sideloaded 1 app, not too happy
Never have I felt like such a google fan boy till I got this 7" tablet from amazon.
My SO purchased one during the black friday deal for her mom. It just showed up and I dont know what this thing is. I own a nexus 6 that I have been learning how to flash custom features too, so I understand that concept. But when I got this Fire 7" running I go to install chrome, and nothing? I am out of the loop here. I was told to do what ever it is I do to these smartthings before it leaves for no mans land Ketchikan AK.
I must admit, I am out of the loop with this device, never thought I'd be using one. Thought it would be more similar to lollipop than it is. What do I need to know? I'd like to be able to trouble shoot the device through a remote connection if there is ever a problem.
Running Fire OS 5.1.1.
Looking down at the lock screen... theres ads?
Please ELI5.
Thanks for reading
I don't know if its possible to install the Google play services to use certain Google apps on 5.1.1 you'd have to try it for yourself. I'm OTA blocked on 5.0.1 so I have full Google play store
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I just side loaded the play store and it worked fine on 5.1.1
Also you can root 5.1.1 now
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My SO purchased one during the black friday deal for her mom. It just showed up and I dont know what this thing is. I own a nexus 6 that I have been learning how to flash custom features too, so I understand that concept. But when I got this Fire 7" running I go to install chrome, and nothing? I am out of the loop here. I was told to do what ever it is I do to these smartthings before it leaves for no mans land Ketchikan AK.
I must admit, I am out of the loop with this device, never thought I'd be using one. Thought it would be more similar to lollipop than it is. What do I need to know? I'd like to be able to trouble shoot the device through a remote connection if there is ever a problem.
Running Fire OS 5.1.1.
Looking down at the lock screen... theres ads?
Please ELI5.
Thanks for reading
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It is completely possible... Just download the Google Apps Zip from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
Then, put the APKs on your fire tablet. Easiest way is to extract, then put on onedrive, then install onedrive on phone and download.
Next, make sure to install in THIS ORDER:
1.) Google Account manager
2.) Google Play Services
3.) Google Services Framework
4.) Google Play Store
There should be one duplicate APK in there. It doesn't matter which one you use, worst case, it will update itself. Hope this works for you like it did for me!
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It is completely possible... Just download the Google Apps Zip from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
Then, put the APKs on your fire tablet. Easiest way is to extract, then put on onedrive, then install onedrive on phone and download.
Next, make sure to install in THIS ORDER:
1.) Google Account manager
2.) Google Play Services
3.) Google Services Framework
4.) Google Play Store
There should be one duplicate APK in there. It doesn't matter which one you use, worst case, it will update itself. Hope this works for you like it did for me!
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Thanks for the tips! This tablet feels like some odd offspring of iOS and kitkat.
Hamm1701 said:
Thanks for the tips! This tablet feels like some odd offspring of iOS and kitkat.
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Love the tablet best £50 I've ever spent £35 was a steal black friday
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You can use the new, just posted supertool to do everything. Be aware that blocking OTA via the supertool may not currently work on 5.1.1, give them a little time & it will likely be fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool-root-t3272695/
Do not send off the Fire until OTA is blocked. Failure to block OTA will likely result in amazon undoing anything you've down to the Fire (& potentially locking out future mods) when the next OTA update appears.
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Love the tablet best £50 I've ever spent £35 was a steal black friday
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Yea, $35, and a little bit of time, it'll be a good buy.
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You can use the new, just posted supertool to do everything. Be aware that blocking OTA via the supertool may not currently work on 5.1.1, give them a little time & it will likely be fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool-root-t3272695/
Do not send off the Fire until OTA is blocked. Failure to block OTA will likely result in amazon undoing anything you've down to the Fire (& potentially locking out future mods) when the next OTA update appears.
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Finding the com.amazon.device.software.ota file in ES explorer with root access and renaming it should be pretty simple after the tool roots it.
Tool updated already anyway
I need to get an inexpensive tablet to use specifically for work email only. I need to be able to install Citrix Worx on it, and I can not root it or MDM/Worx won't work on it.
I see that it worked on 2015 models... but if I go to Best Buy today to buy one, will I be able to get the app store and framework on the tablet? Is there an OS version it will or won't work on; and which OS's can be downgraded (and is it possible without root to downgrade)?
Or am I better getting some cheap chinese tablet..
OR.. Could I flash this on any new Fire Tab? I'm assuming it doesn't root..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-fire-nexus-rom-lmy49f-t3300714
DatacomGuy said:
I need to get an inexpensive tablet to use specifically for work email only. I need to be able to install Citrix Worx on it, and I can not root it or MDM/Worx won't work on it.
I see that it worked on 2015 models... but if I go to Best Buy today to buy one, will I be able to get the app store and framework on the tablet? Is there an OS version it will or won't work on; and which OS's can be downgraded (and is it possible without root to downgrade)?
Or am I better getting some cheap chinese tablet..
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OR.. Could I flash this on any new Fire Tab? I'm assuming it doesn't root..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-fire-nexus-rom-lmy49f-t3300714
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485
You should be good to go, as far as I'm aware the play store 'mod' will work with all current fireos versions on this tablet. I have personally installed it at least six times on tabs for friends and family without a hitch. The latest being only last week.
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You should be good to go, as far as I'm aware the play store 'mod' will work with all current fireos versions on this tablet. I have personally installed it at least six times on tabs for friends and family without a hitch. The latest being only last week.
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FANTASTIC news.. Thanks, really appreciate it. I'll pick one up today.
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FANTASTIC news.. Thanks, really appreciate it. I'll pick one up today.
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One other small thing, if you need more than one Google account on the tablet, simply grab Gmail from the play store and do it through the app (I forgot about doing it that way the other week).
toidimaet said:
One other small thing, if you need more than one Google account on the tablet, simply grab Gmail from the play store and do it through the app (I forgot about doing it that way the other week).
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Good call.. Thank you!
Hi Guys,
I'm new here and searching for an Root Option for my Fire 5th Gen. with Fire OS 5.6.1.0.
I startet it today, and this stupid Device means to update it...
I think i saw the Root Option versions below in the Settings. So i'm confused actually.
And I'm New in the Root section. So my normally Devices are from Apple. But the Fire was one time Cheap and i buyed a 128GB mSD so i can install all of my Music on it.
I hope guys you can understand me and help me
xHazeBaze
xHazeBaze said:
Hi Guys,
I'm new here and searching for an Root Option for my Fire 5th Gen. with Fire OS 5.6.1.0.
I startet it today, and this stupid Device means to update it...
I think i saw the Root Option versions below in the Settings. So i'm confused actually.
And I'm New in the Root section. So my normally Devices are from Apple. But the Fire was one time Cheap and i buyed a 128GB mSD so i can install all of my Music on it.
I hope guys you can understand me and help me
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Unfortunately, there is NO (zero, zip, nada) option at present to root a 5th gen Fire running FireOS 5.3.2.1 or above. Nor can you roll back to a rootable build of FireOS. However, you can install the Google Play store:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
Please make use of the XDA search function before opening a new thread. Root question has been asked and answered many times.
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Unfortunately, there is NO (zero, zip, nada) option at present to root a 5th gen Fire running FireOS 5.3.2.1 or above. Nor can you roll back to a rootable build of FireOS. However, you can install the Google Play store:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
Please make use of the XDA search function before opening a new thread. Root question has been asked and answered many times.
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Im sorry, i try to use the search function. How can i rollback?
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Im sorry, i try to use the search function. How can i rollback?
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There is no rollback option.
Bit of a noob question but has anyone truyed to do it using Magisk through adb or can that not be done on this
bellysgonnagetya said:
Bit of a noob question but has anyone truyed to do it using Magisk through adb or can that not be done on this
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Locked bootloader; Magisk can NOT be used.
Davey126 said:
Locked bootloader; Magisk can be used.
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CAN'T ?
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CAN'T ?
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LOL - thank you! Posted a quick response by mobile and got burned by auto-correct. "Magisk can't be used" was the intended response. I have updated the post in question.
Does anyone know if any root is available yet?
This device is slow on Fire OS.. too much going on for such a slow processor etc. Ironic..
I am also interested in rooting this device.
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Does anyone know if any root is available yet?
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tahrang said:
I am also interested in rooting this device.
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No root on 7th gen Fire. 5th gen devices running FireOS 5.3.2.0 or lower can be rooted. There is no rollback option for those on 5.3.2.1 and above (device will brick).
Just FYI for those searching, still no root. I'm keeping it on 5.3.3.1, which it came with as of 2 days ago.
Quintuple said:
Just FYI for those searching, still no root. I'm keeping it on 5.3.3.1, which it came with as of 2 days ago.
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Just got a Refurbished from woot. it came with 5.6.1 well played amazon!
Rufurbished bought from Amazon.de on 05/10/2018 came with 5.6.1.0...;(
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Just got a Refurbished from woot. it came with 5.6.1 well played amazon!
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Same prob here , saw a couple of threads...it seems the safer approach is to not to attempt downgrading and simply install Google Play (I already did it and works fine - you can practically install anything you want). The problem is actually you have to live with all the junk Amazon puts on the Tablet...;(
Ads on the lockscreen can also easily be blocked..
Blocking of OTA updates does require you to be root, so unless a means to stop OTA from happening shows up, our tablets will continue updating themselves ad-eternum
Cheers,
Gizmo
ThyGizmo said:
Same prob here , saw a couple of threads...it seems the safer approach is to not to attempt downgrading and simply install Google Play (I already did it and works fine - you can practically install anything you want). The problem is actually you have to live with all the junk Amazon puts on the Tablet...;(
Ads on the lockscreen can also easily be blocked..
Blocking of OTA updates does require you to be root, so unless a means to stop OTA from happening shows up, our tablets will continue updating themselves ad-eternum
Cheers,
Gizmo
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Downgrade from 5.6.x -> 5.4 is safe and permits disabling (not uninstalling) Amazon 'bloat' if you know what you're doing. OTA updates can be blocked via VPN based firewall but that adds to the cpu/memory load on this already resource constrained device. In the end it's probably best to do as @ThyGizmo suggests for practical vs safety reasons. Take the device for what it is - a slow but serviceable Amazon ecosystem appliance (shopping portal) that can also be used as a generic Android tablet with some limitations.
I just wanted to remove all the amazon apps. I don't use them.
I use web browser for shopping. I don't have amazon books, movies and many of their junk.
Don't get me start with the spy amazon alexa.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wo...ation-sent-it-out-to-random-contact/755507974
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I just wanted to remove all the amazon apps. I don't use them.
I use web browser for shopping. I don't have amazon books, movies and many of their junk.
Don't get me start with the spy amazon alexa.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wo...ation-sent-it-out-to-random-contact/755507974
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I get an eerie feeling Pandora listens to me sometimes. It has access to the microphone mostly because it intertwines with Google Assistant but I swear sometimes I'll yell at Pandora for not playing the music I like or a song I haven't heard in forever and within a few minutes the song is played. I've been able to do a few times with somebody else in the room and they thought it was quite creepy to. So I guess in a sense you could say that was "spying". But just because an app has a permission to use a certain piece of hardware doesn't mean it always will use it.unfortunately without Root you can't install app Ops which would tell you if a permission was ever used for that specific application.
Handsome Jack said:
I just wanted to remove all the amazon apps. I don't use them.
I use web browser for shopping. I don't have amazon books, movies and many of their junk.
Don't get me start with the spy amazon alexa.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wo...ation-sent-it-out-to-random-contact/755507974
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I get an eerie feeling Pandora listens to me sometimes. It has access to the microphone mostly because it intertwines with Google Assistant but I swear sometimes I'll yell at Pandora for not playing the music I like or a song I haven't heard in forever and within a few minutes the song is played. I've been able to do a few times with somebody else in the room and they thought it was quite creepy to. So I guess in a sense you could say that was "spying". But just because an app has a permission to use a certain piece of hardware doesn't mean it always will use it.unfortunately without Root you can't install app Ops which would tell you if a permission was ever used for that specific application.
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FUD fodder. Slap a piece of tape over the mic and call it a day.
ok, after reading advice. I have decided not to root this Fire 7 5th gen.
After I install Google Play. What the best way to make this device to run better? amazon apps eat all the RAM and CPU.
Handsome Jack said:
ok, after reading advice. I have decided not to root this Fire 7 5th gen.
After I install Google Play. What the best way to make this device to run better? amazon apps eat all the RAM and CPU.
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You wouldn't be able to Root it. Only the 2017 HD 10 can be rooted at present.
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