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Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
If the phone itself is bricked, what would people recommend in terms of a replacement/upgrade? I'm in Canada on Rogers so it has to be a GSM phone. Generally use it for business apps.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Matt
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Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
If the phone itself is bricked, what would people recommend in terms of a replacement/upgrade? I'm in Canada on Rogers so it has to be a GSM phone. Generally use it for business apps.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Matt
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Slider keyboard, Touch Pro II or AT$T Tilt 2: Screen keyboard, Touch HD. Or wait for HTC's rumored ( and I think just a rumor, complete with " leaked " photoshopped pics) superphone, the HTC Leo.
"Tilt II" or (cheap) Kaiser
I was in the same position a couple days ago.
I decided to replace mine with another Kaiser. And I got the part to fix my dying phone as well, for a bit more. Less than $200 spent for two.
In good condition a Kaiser can be had for well under $150.
A fixer-upper can be pieced together for well under $100. (you've torn a Kaiser apart a few times? New screen, etc?) Parts are cheap and a junker to fix (Broken screen or hinges...) is almost free.
But if I were willing to have a contract, the Tilt II or a variant with number keys across the top... sure looks good. I haven't compared the size and weight, but since I already carry a tiny brick, it would be fine, I'm sure. I understand it's better in a few ways. (Audio jack, Screen resolution) and with more horsepower, the screen updates may be quicker, accelerated drivers or not!
I went with the Kaiser, but I did not know about the Tilt II until after I had purchased. Saved me some money, and now I have a backup with identical (but not as pretty) hardware.
Seems like win-win with either platform!
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kingmatt said:
Hi all - my poor Kaiser has suffered the dreaded RLOD. Tried every possible fix short of a new battery... which I should get in the mail this week.
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Not sure what to suggest re a replacement (and your budget will likely come into it as well) but how about detailing all the fixes you've tried - you may have missed one or two and there have been extensive posts on the topic here. It'd be much preferable, I'm sure you agree, to fix it at low or nil cost rather than having to buy a replacement.
Hey guys - first off, thanks for the suggestions above. The offerings from my carrier are weak (best right now is Touch Diamond) but I may look for an aftermarket Tilt 2.
Flying Kiwi, I would definitely be happy to get my Tilt working again - even just to squeeze a few more months out until the Hero is available here. I've read through every thread I could find about RLOD and haven't had any luck. Its actually the second time I've had the red light... the first time was about three months ago. I left the SIM and battery out overnight and the next day it came back to life... but my battery life was severely shortened after that. I could barely get 8 hours out of it before it was at 0%.
On Friday of last week it ran out of juice completely and RLOD was waiting for me in the morning. I tried leaving the battery and SIM out as before and I actually did get the amber light back at one point. I immediately plugged the charger in and hoped it would be fine like last time. Unfortunately the red light was back about 2 minutes later.
Based on the various posts on the subject, I've tried pressing buttons in a specific order, tried "jump starting" the battery, cleaned the contacts, etc... not even a hint of life. That's why I'm thinking that a new battery might be the only chance I have left. But if you know of any other methods I'd love to try!
Man, I miss my phone.....
Sounds familiar
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On Friday of last week it ran out of juice completely and RLOD was waiting for me in the morning. I tried leaving the battery and SIM out as before and I actually did get the amber light back at one point. I immediately plugged the charger in and hoped it would be fine like last time. Unfortunately the red light was back about 2 minutes later.
Based on the various posts on the subject, I've tried pressing buttons in a specific order, tried "jump starting" the battery, cleaned the contacts, etc... not even a hint of life. That's why I'm thinking that a new battery might be the only chance I have left. But if you know of any other methods I'd love to try!
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If you do have a known fully charged battery (perhaps borrowing a friends one) it'd be worth performing a hard reset. It does sound like a spot of the same trouble I briefly had a year or so ago though and I rectified it very quickly with a careful, thorough contact clean (both the spring contacts and battery terminals). I realise you've said you performed a contact clean but what did you use and how did you do it? I don't know if you're aware but it's possible for invisible film to ruin the connection and what looks like a clean connection could still be to blame... If you have a cradle charger, you could also try charging the battery in that before fitting it and perfoming a hard reset. They're cheap enough to buy and enable you to charge 2 batteries at a time (1 in the phone and 1 in the cradle bay).
No luck.... just tried to clean it again with acetone and still the red light. Twas a good thought though!!
And I've searched around for a replacement battery but no one around here has this particular phone... its not generally available up here so I bought one from eBay.
Contact cleaner is cheap enough
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No luck.... just tried to clean it again with acetone and still the red light. Twas a good thought though!!
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I wouldn't give up on that being a cause, especially given the 2 mins on charge scenario. I suggest you use the product specifically designed for such cleaning jobs, contact cleaner (and apply it with the end of a cotton bud soaked in the stuff). A few gentle rubs with this will ensure it's electrically connecting fine.
And I've searched around for a replacement battery but no one around here has this particular phone... its not generally available up here so I bought one from eBay.
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I bought a battery (and cradle charger bundle) from eBay for my Kaiser and although it works, the quality certainly wasn't up to the original one that came with the phone. It doesn't fit as well either and causes the back cover to protrude a little rather than sitting flush. Twas very cheap though
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I wouldn't give up on that being a cause, especially given the 2 mins on charge scenario.
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hehe, ok I'm not particularly patient
I will definitely leave it charging overnight and hope that it decides to spring to life. My biggest concern is that the red light stays on even if the battery out - while plugged in of course. Just makes me think the phone itself is pooched.
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I bought a battery (and cradle charger bundle) from eBay for my Kaiser and although it works, the quality certainly wasn't up to the original one that came with the phone. It doesn't fit as well either and causes the back cover to protrude a little rather than sitting flush. Twas very cheap though
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I wish I'd thought of that before ordering this new battery... although if it works I'll likely order another battery and cradle as a back up right away.
Although now that I'm looking at these Touch Pro 2s on eBay they're looking very tempting.
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hehe, ok I'm not particularly patient
I will definitely leave it charging overnight and hope that it decides to spring to life. My biggest concern is that the red light stays on even if the battery out - while plugged in of course. Just makes me think the phone itself is pooched.
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You needn't think that because the battery has to be installed (and working) for the phone to run - I'd definitely suggest you don't try charging without a battery installed again. This is because some electronic circuits which are designed to be run under load can sometimes be damaged if powed up while not loaded (PSUs inside PCs are a good example). It's worth buying a small can of specialist contact cleaner. It's cheap enough and will do the best job possible in the situation if used with some cotton buds/Q-Tips.
Although now that I'm looking at these Touch Pro 2s on eBay they're looking very tempting.
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You mustn't have got to the bit with the price in it then (nor checked whether they have full Qualcomm accelerated graphics driver support to perform optimally for an MSM72xx chipset device) Still, they do appear to be an improvement over the Kaiser if only a limited one.
I'd definitely suggest you don't try charging without a battery installed again.
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Um how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone? Seriously you have the strangest advice ever..
? get another battery and hard reset to the phone to fix the red light? Wouldn't the friends battery just show you that he needs another battery?
Dear person with broken phone. Try your new battery, Good luck..
Seems like the original battery is worn out and the phone has drained every drop. Most likely there are some capacitors or something that aren't getting charged because of the charger board not having power.. I've seen devices that work like this, there isn't enough juice to start it up and charge the battery or even power the phone properly. I'm sure there is some sort of small bios type battery on there that is drained as well.
Giving it my best shot
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Um how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone?
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I give up, how do you charge a battery without it being in the phone? It is possible to plug in the charger and power it without a battery installed however (although the phone wont boot in this state) and this may cause damage.
? get another battery and hard reset to the phone to fix the red light? Wouldn't the friends battery just show you that he needs another battery?
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It may but a hard reset may also show that some corruption in the ROM may be to blame or contributing to the problem and of course a hard reset isn't possible with a flat battery. I'm not willing to rule either out as a potential cause of the problem at this stage.
Dear person with broken phone. Try your new battery, Good luck..
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Something we agree on again ChumleyEX, see we do have alot in common you know. I even like cats too
Well damn, I can't say anything negative to someone that likes cats.
Hey guys - I appreciate all of the advice, really do.
Good to know that the red light should be on while charging with the battery out... not something I was doing for a long period, just happened while I was trying the various fixes. Hopefully the new battery comes in and works because I wouldn't be rushing to drop $700+ on a Touch Pro 2.
Oh and I like cats too.
Wanted to provide a (late) update. My Kaiser's problem was purely battery-related. I finally got a new battery today and the RLOD cleared up right away.
Not sure if it will come back or whether my battery life will be compromised, though...
Hey guys,
Just wanted to show off my review of the Mugen Power 3600 mah battery (and battery cover) for the Xperia Play 4G. This is a helpful accessory for those of you that need the extra juice! Full review below:
Has there not been an official review allready?.. like 3 months back?
What's improved or is the difference to 'back then' ?
cant have enough reviews.
id really like an extra strong battery but it would mean i couldnt use my case (trident, which i havent received yet, but i wouldnt expect it to fit with the bigger back cover), probably couldnt even use the docking station? (which i dont have, either, until now!)
Also, I know there exists a 2600mAH battery which costs 23 euro in germany (extra back cover, too) so if thats not bad id think the extra costs for 3600mah mugen power arent worth it.
one question, though: If you open the device now and put it on the ground, does it stay on the lower side or does it topple over like normally?
I have this battery as well and the extra bulk doesn't bother me at all. Maybe the batteries are a little different as I can get a lot of life out of mine. There is one downfall for me, don't know if it's the same for others. When taking a dark, indoors picture, I get a large, left sided blur from the flash. It seems that the case does not seat all the way down around the flash, leading to some light bleeding over into the picture. Like I said, I don't know if anyone else's is like this but mine is. I'm going to attempt a fix myself even though I do have another back plate coming from Mugen.
Edit; So I got my replacement battery door in the mail today and everything works perfectly now. So in the end, I am more than happy with this battery and company. They were fast to help me out and sent me a new door, no charge. The extra battery life more than outweighs the size increase. I surf, text and emulate a lot and get about 3 days out of each charge.
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cant have enough reviews.
id really like an extra strong battery but it would mean i couldnt use my case (trident, which i havent received yet, but i wouldnt expect it to fit with the bigger back cover), probably couldnt even use the docking station? (which i dont have, either, until now!)
Also, I know there exists a 2600mAH battery which costs 23 euro in germany (extra back cover, too) so if thats not bad id think the extra costs for 3600mah mugen power arent worth it.
one question, though: If you open the device now and put it on the ground, does it stay on the lower side or does it topple over like normally?
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Hey there - I have the Trident case, it won't fit with the back cover on (but you probably knew that already). Sony Ericsson also sent me out the docking station, that doesn't work with it either, since it is a precise fit for the Xperia Play.
As for the device topple, it tends to want to topple over but the battery is heavy enough to hold it in place.
Hope I helped out!
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Good video but too big ace already the mobile for my taste
doesit work on the verizon play
Whats the UK price? Googled it and can't find it. US = $99! Which to me is rediculous!
Hey guys, I wanted to warn you about this battery now that I've had it for a while. A little while ago, my Mugen started causing me problems. Phone running funny, lots of apps wouldn't work, lots of phone stuttering, fast drain, very hot crashes, etc.. Also started draining faster than the stock battery with no use. My phone is stock, no roms, no root. Tried a reset, no help. So I tried swapping my stock battery in and the phone runs perfect. After a couple days, swap the Mugen back in, tons of problems. Been back on the stock battery for over a week now and not one single problem.
So I've contacted Mugen 4 times since this has happened and they completely ingore me. I even contacted them on their facebook page and get the run around. I dug through their return/exchange policy and it states that despite their 6 month warranty, after 30 days, you're SOL. You first have to get an RMA which I've been unsuccessful in doing. Then pay to ship it back, pay a penalty for restocking (?), wait for 2 weeks while they "test" it to ensure it's faulty and then pay to have a new one re-shipped. If it's not faulty, you're really SOL and I'm sure they never have faulty ones.....
This was a total waste of time and money for me. Please be careful if you go this route.
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Hey guys, I wanted to warn you about this battery now that I've had it for a while. A little while ago, my Mugen started causing me problems. Phone running funny, lots of apps wouldn't work, lots of phone stuttering, fast drain, very hot crashes, etc.. Also started draining faster than the stock battery with no use. My phone is stock, no roms, no root. Tried a reset, no help. So I tried swapping my stock battery in and the phone runs perfect. After a couple days, swap the Mugen back in, tons of problems. Been back on the stock battery for over a week now and not one single problem.
So I've contacted Mugen 4 times since this has happened and they completely ingore me. I even contacted them on their facebook page and get the run around. I dug through their return/exchange policy and it states that despite their 6 month warranty, after 30 days, you're SOL. You first have to get an RMA which I've been unsuccessful in doing. Then pay to ship it back, pay a penalty for restocking (?), wait for 2 weeks while they "test" it to ensure it's faulty and then pay to have a new one re-shipped. If it's not faulty, you're really SOL and I'm sure they never have faulty ones.....
This was a total waste of time and money for me. Please be careful if you go this route.
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Sorry to hear that bro. It amazes me that it seems no one can make a decent non OEM battery (extended or stock capacity). And it seems even the "expensive" ones aren't much better.
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Does the company make cases made for the extra bulk of the door?
For $100 I would expect the case to be two layers so that the speaker output would be channeled correctly and would not allow water freely into the rest of the chamber. The microphone hole looks like it does not line up with the microphone at all! If anything, it should have been at the exact same level as the original hole with a more open tunnel to the top just like the camer/flash holes. They obviously expected you to notice the single-layer shortcomings if they didn't push the switch that would require you to turn off Safe SD so the only reason it doesn't route the speaker audio and secondary mic correctly is because they can get away with it. With the audio echoing around inside with the secondary mic, I expect horrible speakerphone performance and very little stereo seperation. With the microphone subducted, I expect terrible noise canceling. You don't have to be an engineer to see these problems!
$100?! No way.
I think a $25 Otterbox Commuter and a second original battery cover could be modified to discretely hold this with none of the other drawbacks. The Otterbox has some design issues of it's own, but I'm taking those to another thread (you'll want to saw off at least two of the clipping tabs).
Apologies in advance, I could not post proper links for this review due to my low post count.
Background
I ordered a Nexus 10 on November 20th, 2012. Initially, I was pleased by the battery life (~6.5 hours). Probably a bit like the "Boiling Frog" metaphor, the battery life degraded and I didn't notice it. I began to notice the battery degradation recently when my tablet began doing the 0% battery shutdown at ~30%.
First thing I did was get on the phone with Google, to see if I could get them to warranty the battery. Being a couple of months out of warranty, I wasn't expecting it to work, but it couldn't hurt. Denied. So, I called Samsung. After two hours and 8 different technical support phone numbers, they couldn't recognize my tablet serial number. I'm guessing it was unrecognized (which is no excuse, by the way) because I bought it on the Google Play Store. Besides all that, they didn't recognize the product name, kept calling it strange stuff like Nexus 10.1 or Nexus Note. They told me they would research and return my call at a later time.
My Nexus 10 is a daily driver with a minimum of 3 hours of use a day and often over 6. After impatiently waiting a few days, I began to panic. I began to believe that I had paid ~$500 for a device that, after a few more cells died, was going to be an expensive brick. I did some research and could find NO reviews on the NewPower99 battery kit, and since I felt that my options were relatively few, I decided to take the plunge.
Kit Contents and Cost
Ordered from Amazon for $75.41 (shipping and taxes included)
1 Cameron Sino 9000 mAh 33.3Wh Lithium-Polymer Battery Pack
One tiny screw screwdriver
Two tiny plastic prying tools
One plastic video disk (Not sure what it does, they special players can spin it fast and a video will play(!!??))
The Replacement and Pitfalls
Rather than using the included plastic video disk, I searched YouTube until I found the video: NewPower99 by NewLife2OldStuff. It's a great primer for this battery replacement, but there are a few parts where the disassembler's chubby fingers get in the way of disconnecting connectors. I suggest watching a few other Nexus 10 teardown videos prior to the actual teardown.
Prior to this, I had not attempted any mobile device disassembly/assembly. I did break a little insulation on the video card connector on the main board but this is due to me only watching the NewPower99 video and missing a detail (pull the display cable rather than flip the connector). Also due to how delicate the internals are, I did not push the display connector in far enough, which led to the display power being spotty. So, I had to redisassemble the tablet a few days later and reconnect it. Had I done more research and been a bit more patient, I'm sure the replacement would have been flawless.
The aftermath
My tablet has not yet exploded. As a matter of fact, one week in, I'm amazed. I've fell back in love with my tablet. Since the battery replacement, I usually don't need to charge until the end of the day. I run a conservative brightness on the display and, of course, that helps. Also, while I've done no metrics, I believe I've seen an unintended improvement: the charge time has improved. It was not unusual for me to plugin during sleep and still not have a full charge in the morning, which I haven't seen happen since battery replacement.
At a later time, I intend to respond to this post with an unscientific update on the battery's life. If the battery life stays relatively the same, I wouldn't really mind yearly replacement at this battery's warranty limitation and probably expected minimum life. Small price to pay for great battery life and a very underrated tablet.
Also, Samsung did, finally, return my support call a few days ago but I never called back. Don't call me, I'll call you .
Light Statistics (screenshots below)
~11:46 battery time
~6:45 display on time (top battery user)
~1:45 RetroArch (runner up top battery user)
These aren't really shabby for this tablet. Non-scientifically: the display was at ~25% brightness (in-house usage) >95% of the time, and never went below that. ~3-5% of the time the display was 100% (outdoors).
Program usage was an ordinary day of tablet use.
Not going to lie this is quite an informative post since the battery went bad over the course of a year later... I don't use my tablet as much as I first used to, but with all this android tech talk and new phones coming out at this time I use it more than I normally have (and also for the room 2 love that game!). I will definitely subscribe to this post so I have it handy if/when my battery starts doing the same thing as well in due time.
Thanks for this thread. My tablet has been going to 0% when it reaches 15%. So I've been looking to get a replacement battery. Cheers mate.
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Besides all that, they didn't recognize the product name, kept calling it strange stuff like Nexus 10.1 or Nexus Note.
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Next time, give them the model #. Samsung GT-P8110
thanks for posting this. is it better to buy the cameron battery from amazon or thru this link: http://www.cameronsinobattery.com/tienda/prodList.asp?idcategory=32&curPage=3&sortField=description
and how about newpower99.com is it a reliable/legit seller?
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thanks for posting this. is it better to buy the cameron battery from amazon or thru this link: http://www.cameronsinobattery.com/tienda/prodList.asp?idcategory=32&curPage=3&sortField=description
and how about newpower99.com is it a reliable/legit seller?
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Wow, that's an impressive price and I definitely would have taken it from there. I can't really speak about any company's reliability in general but the newpower99 thing worked well in my case. The only thing I'd have to say about getting it directly from cameroninobattery.com is finding those tiny tools; it shouldn't be that difficult at all (definitely worth the $50 to find them!). Still loving the battery life. :good:
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E-shop with the battery available?
Just for the record, e-shops (below) don't seem to have the battery in stock these days, but there are many sold at e-bay if one searches SP3496A8H (the part number).
* http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Nexus-GT-P8110-Replacement-Installation/dp/B00F3T9SYC (out of stock)
* http://www.newpower99.com/Google_Nexus10_Battery_Replacement_Kit_p/google-nexus-10.htm (says available, but I ordered and got money back with they explanation they don't have those in stock)
* http://www.cameronsinobattery.com/1435-samsung-gt-p8110-gtp8110-ha32arb-google-nexus-1/ (out of stock)
I am extremely disappointed by my options to keep my nexus 10 going strong. I love the tablet... w/ its current screen resolution i really have NO reason to upgrade to a new device... however right now NO ONE carries this part. If google is NOT going to support having replaceable batteries, and there are no 3rd party options, we are all simply buying disposable electronics... its ridiculous.
Right now it is out of stock everywhere and there are 2 shady listings on ebay. Extremely disapointed with this.
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I am extremely disappointed by my options to keep my nexus 10 going strong. I love the tablet... w/ its current screen resolution i really have NO reason to upgrade to a new device... however right now NO ONE carries this part. If google is NOT going to support having replaceable batteries, and there are no 3rd party options, we are all simply buying disposable electronics... its ridiculous.
Right now it is out of stock everywhere and there are 2 shady listings on eBay. Extremely disappointed with this.
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I am going through this right now! I am not sure if I should buy from the sketchy eBay listings or what. I tried NewPower99 but claim to have none in stock due to a production issue. It is almost as if Samsung went after the 3rd party that made the battery so they could not sell it. My tablet is out of warranty and I have no idea what to do as its worth nothing to trade in and I don't have the $$$ for a new tablet. If anyone has any suggestions or bought a replacement battery and hasn't used or opened it and would be willing to part with it I may be interested in buying.
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I am going through this right now! I am not sure if I should buy from the sketchy eBay listings or what. I tried NewPower99 but claim to have none in stock due to a production issue. It is almost as if Samsung went after the 3rd party that made the battery so they could not sell it. My tablet is out of warranty and I have no idea what to do as its worth nothing to trade in and I don't have the $$$ for a new tablet. If anyone has any suggestions or bought a replacement battery and hasn't used or opened it and would be willing to part with it I may be interested in buying.
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I am having the same problem. Nobody has the battery. So I finally found something on Alibabba and ordered it straight from china for something like $35 (through a friend's account, so I don't have the details at the moment). I expect it will take at least a month to get here. I hope it works and lasts, cheap batteries rarely work out very well in the long term.... but what choice do I have? This is a $500 tablet that is not that old! It now powers down at 70% battery, usually less than an hour playing a game
I went ahead and ordered the nexus 10 battery off of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/261555419335?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I'll let you know my results with it.
EDIT: Will I also need to purchase special tools to install it?
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EDIT: Will I also need to purchase special tools to install it?
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Just a (size 0?) phillips (you can pull off the cover to see the screw size). If it fits one, it'll fit all you need to get it pulled off. :good:
Somewhat offtopic, I might end up getting the new Nexus tablet, regardless. The center of my screen has started getting a brown burn-in color, most visible when the screen is white. Which is quite a shame, this tablet is still plenty peppy for me (it's my fastest development device), and have no other problems with the device at all (the battery still shines). The monitor life was probably accelerated by the high sleep time (10 or 30 minutes, don't remember which one) since it's a development machine I keep it on between compiles so it's there when I need it. :crying:
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I went ahead and ordered the nexus 10 battery off of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/261555419335?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I'll let you know my results with it.
EDIT: Will I also need to purchase special tools to install it?
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Have you received and installed the battery? I feel there are less and less options to find one these days.... Let us know thanks!
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Have you received and installed the battery? I feel there are less and less options to find one these days.... Let us know thanks!
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Haven't received it yet. Estimated delivery is October 30th.
When I do get it and after install it, I'll write a full report here for you guys.
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Haven't received it yet. Estimated delivery is October 30th.
When I do get it and after install it, I'll write a full report here for you guys.
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That would be awesome, thanks!
looking for nexus 10 battery replacement in india
hi,
i am also facing the same issue. request you to intimate if you can find one in india?
Anyone bought from here/?? I have just ordered it.. cross my fingers..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BATTERY-ORIGINAL-SP3496A8H-SAMSUNG-GOOGLE/dp/B00IXODOL2
hi. i got ****ed cause i got a bad tab with worst battery. now i need a new one. can any one tell me where to get one? are the ones available on ebay real ones or fakes? also i have seen here somewhere link to newpower99 battery for 8.4 but i cant find it i have tried a lot to find that link.
can some one tell me if they have replaced the battery and from where did they get it? i have found 2 links on ebay can u guys pls tell me if theses are real ones or fakes? should i get these? asking so many questions cause i have to import the battery.and once thats done i cant return or replace as i live in the greatest country of the world, PAKISTAN
help needed pls help me.
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hi. i got ****ed cause i got a bad tab with worst battery. now i need a new one. can any one tell me where to get one? are the ones available on ebay real ones or fakes? also i have seen here somewhere link to newpower99 battery for 8.4 but i cant find it i have tried a lot to find that link.
can some one tell me if they have replaced the battery and from where did they get it? i have found 2 links on ebay can u guys pls tell me if theses are real ones or fakes? should i get these? asking so many questions cause i have to import the battery.and once thats done i cant return or replace as i live in the greatest country of the world, PAKISTAN
help needed pls help me.
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I am also from pakistan and yes it's greatest
I'm sure there are a few places to get a new battery but I came across this site for replacement battery and how-to install: http://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_G...placement_Kit_p/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10.5.htm. Have never use them so I can't comment on the quality of their products.
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I'm sure there are a few places to get a new battery but I came across this site for replacement battery and how-to install: http://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_G...placement_Kit_p/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10.5.htm. Have never use them so I can't comment on the quality of their products.
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thats for the 10.5 variant man, i need one for Tab S 8.4
I am stuck with exactly same problem with my samsung tab S 8.4 and want battery replacement for my Tab. and i also need this battery to be shipped to pakistan.
I came across few links but none is shipping to pakistan.
There is one item at Aliexpress.com and they ship to worldwide but my own experience with aliexpress is not that good as all items are of very low quality, soo kindly if anyone comes across some good solution, help me too.
Thanks
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thats for the 10.5 variant man, i need one for Tab S 8.4
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Same place 8.4 battery version: http://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_G...eplacement_Kit_p/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-8.4.htm
I also want to replace my battery cause I think its defective and there is no samsung service centre here. The price of the battery from newpower is so expensive. I dont want to take a risk. Im afraid the quality is bad. Anyone have ever bought from newpower before? Is it ok?
What about this? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/NEW-...or-samsung-galaxy-Tab-S-T700/32258214298.html
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I also want to replace my battery cause I think its defective and there is no samsung service centre here. The price of the battery from newpower is so expensive. I dont want to take a risk. Im afraid the quality is bad. Anyone have ever bought from newpower before? Is it ok?
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Just purchased one from Newpower. Seems OK - I haven't installed it yet as it is to be a standby in case it is needed. Yes it is expensive and beware - there will be import duty and tax to pay on top. I had to pay approx $28.00 more for this in the UK. Bill Kelly seems to be the owner/boss at Newpower who does the voice in their excellent video on their site and DVD provided with battery. Following my initial enquiry to express my doubts as to the quality etc he e'mailed to say that the battery comes to USA (Dallas) and is 3rd party, manufactured in Orient, and he needed my business (ordered only one battery).
Anyway the battery is marked Cameron Sine Technology - so try to see if you can buy it for considerably less from elsewhere. Where else would provide a special opening device / tool least likely to cause damage.
I noticed that the link to aliexpress indicates that the "genuine" battery was no longer available between 24 to 27 February when I checked. Send an e'mail to Bill Kelly and ask about shipment to Pakistan - it was not listed in the shipment list when you pretend to purchase for some reason.
I found 3 suppliers on eBay from Hong Kong, Wisconsin USA and Bischofswerda Germany with wildly varying prices and no doubt trustworthiness.
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eBay replacement..
Hi ya'll... As most of you been experiencing, I have been having a lot of battery issues.
The battery levels drops in big dumps... Charge takes too long ( overnight for full charge) but doesn't last more than 3hrs... Charges too quickly (less than an hour) but also dies out within 30mins. When charge gets below 25% screen starts flickering and then it continuely reboots!
Anyways I finally decided to get a new battery, I went with eBay seller "Fashcover" item as it was $30AUD shipped and it also had all the tools required (actually had a lot more than needed). So after 2 weeks I finally received it, it only takes 10-15mins to replace the battery.
Pretty much all the markings are similar,the electric connecting wires are of different color combinations & it's 1-2mm smaller than OEM in width!
So far I've been able to use it for 4hrs straight, still have 30% remaining... Atleast now the battery slowly goes down instead of the jumps! But still battery life isn't anywhere near iPad minis!
Battery doesn't last long on 100% charge, it drops to 99% within a minute or 2 of disconnecting from charger..
You guys with the 8.4" seem to have quite a few problem compared to the 10.5" version, like display quality and now battery issues, or is it just a lot more people with the 8.4" or something.
And as far as i have read, after charge the battery dropping from 100% to 99% when the charger is unplugged or shortly after is normal so dont worry.
Below is a battery recalibration guide, for some of you it sounds like the battery is really faulty and needs replacing, it`s a shame you have to pay for it when it`s still in warranty.
John.
You can calibrate the battery like this before you decide to buy a new one
Fully charge the battery with the phone on and when the phone is fully charged, unplug the charger and turn it off.
When your phone is off, plug it into the charger and let it charge to 100% again. The green LED light will indicate when this is done.
Next unplug the charger, turn on your phone and set the option to ensure that your screen doesn’t turn off, if you have this option. Then reconnect to the charger and wait for it to charge again to 100%.
Once charged to 100%, unplug the charger again and do not charge until the smartphone turns itself off after reaching a 0% battery level. Once off, fully charge it again and it should work properly. The screen setting can put back to normal again (meaning turn off after a certain amount of time).
phones with oled displays should not show static images for a long time as it can cause burn-in
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Keify said:
Hi ya'll... As most of you been experiencing, I have been having a lot of battery issues.
The battery levels drops in big dumps... Charge takes too long ( overnight for full charge) but doesn't last more than 3hrs... Charges too quickly (less than an hour) but also dies out within 30mins. When charge gets below 25% screen starts flickering and then it continuely reboots!
Anyways I finally decided to get a new battery, I went with eBay seller "Fashcover" item as it was $30AUD shipped and it also had all the tools required (actually had a lot more than needed). So after 2 weeks I finally received it, it only takes 10-15mins to replace the battery.
Pretty much all the markings are similar,the electric connecting wires are of different color combinations & it's 1-2mm smaller than OEM in width!
So far I've been able to use it for 4hrs straight, still have 30% remaining... Atleast now the battery slowly goes down instead of the jumps! But still battery life isn't anywhere near iPad minis!
Battery doesn't last long on 100% charge, it drops to 99% within a minute or 2 of disconnecting from charger..
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this is the issue with almost all the tabs. people dont really accept it but this issue is there. there might be few exceptions but overall, the battery life SUCKS steel balls covered with goo and horse **** with toppings of slime and pig ****.
i have had enough issues with this ****ty tablet. i so loved this tablet that i spent almost twice its price on just repairs. but it was not meant for me may be. i had to sell it in scrap.
i have already warned people about its battery. there is a reason people get iPads when they want tablets. i have never owned one, but i have used one. and yes Android tablets, especially Samsung tablets SUCK!
my advice would be to sell it off ASAP, and instead get something else. you will face more issues, i can promise you that at least in battery life. rest its your choice.
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You guys with the 8.4" seem to have quite a few problem compared to the 10.5" version, like display quality and now battery issues, or is it just a lot more people with the 8.4" or something.
And as far as i have read, after charge the battery dropping from 100% to 99% when the charger is unplugged or shortly after is normal so dont worry.
Below is a battery recalibration guide, for some of you it sounds like the battery is really faulty and needs replacing, it`s a shame you have to pay for it when it`s still in warranty.
John.
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its not that there are many people with 8.4, it might be, because of its smaller size but its not entirely the case. the truth is the battery in this tablet used by samsung is of worst quality even when compared to their lower end tablets. this was supposed to be Samsung's FLAGSHIP tablet but they ruined it with battery.
& yes 100 to 99 when u plug it out, thats understandable, but how can anyone explain a brand new, out of the box tablet, go from 99% to 63% in JUST SETTING UP THE TABLET WHICH TAKES LIKE LITERALLY 3 MINUTES???
"THAT'S" the issue people were facing.
and this is the reason you will not see samsung marketing it anymore now. even on their youtube channel. even samsung knows it was a full flop.
i personally know, 3 people other than myself who got this tablet. and all, including myself, had this issue. and NO we all didnt get these from same seller or even same country. and they were of different batch.
I always wondered if company's send b-grade products to country's with not the best consumer protection for faulty goods.
And 99% to 63% in 3 minutes is not normal, but it is possible that the tablet just needs the battery calibrating and there are a few guides out there, if the battery is still bad after that then return it or get it repaired.
John.
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this is the issue with almost all the tabs. people dont really accept it but this issue is there. there might be few exceptions but overall, the battery life SUCKS steel balls covered with goo and horse **** with toppings of slime and pig ****.
i have had enough issues with this ****ty tablet. i so loved this tablet that i spent almost twice its price on just repairs. but it was not meant for me may be. i had to sell it in scrap.
i have already warned people about its battery. there is a reason people get iPads when they want tablets. i have never owned one, but i have used one. and yes Android tablets, especially Samsung tablets SUCK!
my advice would be to sell it off ASAP, and instead get something else. you will face more issues, i can promise you that at least in battery life. rest its your choice.
its not that there are many people with 8.4, it might be, because of its smaller size but its not entirely the case. the truth is the battery in this tablet used by samsung is of worst quality even when compared to their lower end tablets. this was supposed to be Samsung's FLAGSHIP tablet but they ruined it with battery.
& yes 100 to 99 when u plug it out, thats understandable, but how can anyone explain a brand new, out of the box tablet, go from 99% to 63% in JUST SETTING UP THE TABLET WHICH TAKES LIKE LITERALLY 3 MINUTES???
"THAT'S" the issue people were facing.
and this is the reason you will not see samsung marketing it anymore now. even on their youtube channel. even samsung knows it was a full flop.
i personally know, 3 people other than myself who got this tablet. and all, including myself, had this issue. and NO we all didnt get these from same seller or even same country. and they were of different batch.
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I got one off ebay. It was not as wide as the stock battery but it plugged up and I have had no issues since! Getting around 6-7 hours SOT with web browsing and watching videos. With games, I get about 4 hours sot. Hope this helps.
is anyone having this issue with the 10.5? i have had two 8.4's one white 16gb and one 32gb bronze and they seem to have the same issue
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is anyone having this issue with the 10.5? i have had two 8.4's one white 16gb and one 32gb bronze and they seem to have the same issue
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No issues with battery on 10.5 inch. Not sure why. only the 8.4 models seem affected by battery.
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When it`s $70/£45for an T800 10.5" battery with tool-kit, or i can get a splurge for removing the back cover for £1 and a replacement battery for £8.40, which would you choose.
John.
I've searched the web for a replacement battery, but they are apparently hard to come by and not cheap. Is there a reason for this?
I got about three good years of daily use out of my battery. But it's been slowly downhill since. Streaming video, I get maybe 2 hours screen on time right now, and the percentage is screwy. That isn't horrible per se, but it's only going to get worse.
Has anybody here replaced their battery? And/or, any recommendations for a replacement? Galaxy Tab S2 seems nice. Media Pad M5 has better specs and I think has band 12, but is more expensive and is Huawei.
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I've searched the web for a replacement battery, but they are apparently hard to come by and not cheap. Is there a reason for this?
I got about three good years of daily use out of my battery. But it's been slowly downhill since. Streaming video, I get maybe 2 hours screen on time right now, and the percentage is screwy. That isn't horrible per se, but it's only going to get worse.
Has anybody here replaced their battery? And/or, any recommendations for a replacement? Galaxy Tab S2 seems nice. Media Pad M5 has better specs and I think has band 12, but is more expensive and is Huawei.
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Android tablets are almost dead. I'd get a 2018 iPad if I were you. The new iPad is great value for money at just $329
But if you really want android, chromebook tablets should be good or if you can find Sony z4 tablet, that's good too.
Z4 tablet isn't pocketable. iPad doesn't work as a cell phone (and is iOS).
Have you had any success?
I love my Z3 tablet compact. But the battery on it has gone into bulge/swell mode, so much so that it actually pushed the screen off the frame. This is now a safety issue so I need to have it replaced, but it's seemingly impossible to find a replacement, and Sony itself is not helping ("we no longer support this"). Does anyone have a source for a compatible replacement? I wouldn't mind if it didn't have the exact same specs, it's just gotta fit in and work
It's odd, I have both a Z2 tablet and a Z3 tablet compact, and both their batteries went into expansion/bulge phase a week from each other. I'm now actually keeping both of them in a metal box with bottled water all around them for fear of fire; I do NOT want to throw them away (working fine otherwise). But I desperately need replacement batteries, and Sony is of no help whatsoever.
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Have you had any success?
I love my Z3 tablet compact. But the battery on it has gone into bulge/swell mode, so much so that it actually pushed the screen off the frame. This is now a safety issue so I need to have it replaced, but it's seemingly impossible to find a replacement, and Sony itself is not helping ("we no longer support this"). Does anyone have a source for a compatible replacement? I wouldn't mind if it didn't have the exact same specs, it's just gotta fit in and work
It's odd, I have both a Z2 tablet and a Z3 tablet compact, and both their batteries went into expansion/bulge phase a week from each other. I'm now actually keeping both of them in a metal box with bottled water all around them for fear of fire; I do NOT want to throw them away (working fine otherwise). But I desperately need replacement batteries, and Sony is of no help whatsoever.
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/273078604828
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/192541472554
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.de/ulk/itm/132105660507
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thanks for the links, "seller refurbished", hrm... (but then it's not like I have much of a choice...)
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thanks for the links, "seller refurbished", hrm... (but then it's not like I have much of a choice...)
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The second link is a new battery.
New. A brand-new, unused, unopened and undamaged item in original retail packaging (where packaging is applicable). If the item comes direct from a manufacturer, it may be delivered in non-retail packaging, such as a plain or unprinted box or plastic bag. See the seller's listing for full details.
ah, thanks again.
I have to say one thing about buying online like this, is whether something marked "new" really is though... but I suppose I don't really have any options
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Have you had any success?
I love my Z3 tablet compact. But the battery on it has gone into bulge/swell mode, so much so that it actually pushed the screen off the frame. This is now a safety issue so I need to have it replaced, but it's seemingly impossible to find a replacement, and Sony itself is not helping ("we no longer support this"). Does anyone have a source for a compatible replacement? I wouldn't mind if it didn't have the exact same specs, it's just gotta fit in and work
It's odd, I have both a Z2 tablet and a Z3 tablet compact, and both their batteries went into expansion/bulge phase a week from each other. I'm now actually keeping both of them in a metal box with bottled water all around them for fear of fire; I do NOT want to throw them away (working fine otherwise). But I desperately need replacement batteries, and Sony is of no help whatsoever.
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I eventually bought a Mediapad M5 8.4. The bands are a little different (but fine for T-Mo or AT&T), it's not nearly as light, and I miss Intelligent Backlight Control of all things. But it's a viable replacement with better specs, the media/multitasking experience is better and the screen is better. Ran me $450.
Lenovo Tab 4 Plus 8 is another viable solution, it is about as compact as the Z3TC and the 64/4GB version can be bought for $350.
The cheapest battery I have found is this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bateria-Or...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
$56 is still kind of expensive for a replacement battery, although I'll probably spend it eventually if I don't find something cheaper. I've been meaning to stop by Batteries Plus to see if they have anything they could order. I also don't know how easy the actual battery replacement is.
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/273078604828
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/192541472554
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.de/ulk/itm/132105660507
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Thanks for the links. They don't ship to the US, though...
update for anyone who is interested -
it turns out that Sony Hong Kong still lists the Z3 Tablet compact as a supported device and apparently can get parts for it (though not instantly - I was given a two-week lead time for the battery).
There is a HK$150 diagnosis fee, and the replacement battery is another HK$150, which sounded fair to me so I gave them the go ahead.
Incidentally this does NOT include waterproofing, and they quoted me, for a battery replacement AND waterproofing, over HK$2000 (currently above US$250). I decided I could live without waterproofing.
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update for anyone who is interested -
it turns out that Sony Hong Kong still lists the Z3 Tablet compact as a supported device and apparently can get parts for it (though not instantly - I was given a two-week lead time for the battery).
There is a HK$150 diagnosis fee, and the replacement battery is another HK$150, which sounded fair to me so I gave them the go ahead.
Incidentally this does NOT include waterproofing, and they quoted me, for a battery replacement AND waterproofing, over HK$2000 (currently above US$250). I decided I could live without waterproofing.
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just hk 300 in total?! wow. i have just used toothpick to poke my battery. waterproofing is the sticky foam rim.
would they wipe your tablet? if yes, no thanks for me.
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just hk 300 in total?! wow. i have just used toothpick to poke my battery. waterproofing is the sticky foam rim.
would they wipe your tablet? if yes, no thanks for me.
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I was pleasantly surprised by the battery price (I kind of wanted the waterproofing but HKD2000+ is too much). they said they might wipe (you can't backup?).
what do you mean toothpick to poke? You mean to release the "swelling" of the battery? I've heard that is a VERY BAD IDEA. it's apparently hydrogen + various toxic gases inside. Plus chance of catching fire?
weilt said:
update for anyone who is interested -
it turns out that Sony Hong Kong still lists the Z3 Tablet compact as a supported device and apparently can get parts for it (though not instantly - I was given a two-week lead time for the battery).
There is a HK$150 diagnosis fee, and the replacement battery is another HK$150, which sounded fair to me so I gave them the go ahead.
Incidentally this does NOT include waterproofing, and they quoted me, for a battery replacement AND waterproofing, over HK$2000 (currently above US$250). I decided I could live without waterproofing.
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I was pleasantly surprised by the battery price (I kind of wanted the waterproofing but HKD2000+ is too much). they said they might wipe (you can't backup?).
what do you mean toothpick to poke? You mean to release the "swelling" of the battery? I've heard that is a VERY BAD IDEA. it's apparently hydrogen + various toxic gases inside. Plus chance of catching fire?
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don't like the idea need to install everything and config again. pls let us know if it wipe. if not i may change battery if the battery finally dies.
mine is just swollen but can keep charge, very strange.
yep, releasing the gas.
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I was pleasantly surprised by the battery price (I kind of wanted the waterproofing but HKD2000+ is too much). they said they might wipe (you can't backup?).
what do you mean toothpick to poke? You mean to release the "swelling" of the battery? I've heard that is a VERY BAD IDEA. it's apparently hydrogen + various toxic gases inside. Plus chance of catching fire?
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how long do you need to let them keep your toy for repairs please?
or u can take it away while u r waiting for the battery.
if they are willing to sell me the battery and gasket tape. i would rather do it myself than their technicician.
swollen doesn't mean it won't hold charge.
What I understand is it means the materials inside have broken down, and gas is being generated, a mix of hydrogen (flammable) and other not-good-for-human-exposure substances. If what I read is correct, once it starts swelling, if you keep using it (more charge/discharge cycles) you are going to generate even more gas and making it more likely to eventually combust. I think you're asking for trouble to keep using it.
Sony HK took my device in, and are estimating 2-3 weeks turnaround time (they need to obtain the parts from somewhere). I do not expect them to sell you parts. They will also need to see proof of purchase before taking your device in (I think to check it's not a stolen device etc.).
I don't have receipt anymore. Such stupid policy.
2 to 3 weeks no access to your tablet?!
Would wait for your update
Ok, a further update - was ready for collection last week, have picked it up, everything seems to work. Total HKD299 spent to replace battery. My tablet was NOT wiped, i.e. everything was as I submitted it (I figure since it's a battery and not logic-board swap, the technician wasn't going to do unnecessary work anyway), but I think it's a requirement to sign an acknowledgement that everything could be wiped, I think you can't get around it if they do. I checked and they will NOT sell you parts, it must be a service submission + you must have proof of purchase (I bought mine online - the e mail acknowledgement was good enough for them).
alancai, there seems to be consensus on the people I've checked with + websites I've looked at that what you're doing w.r.t. poking holes to release the gas buildup is potentially dangerous. You *might* be selflessly volunteering to force Sony to implement a global battery swap/replacement program once yours catches fire/kills you/does something that puts the "Sony" brand in the news, but I'm not sure the Sony user community should demand this level of sacrifice from you... .
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Ok, a further update - was ready for collection last week, have picked it up, everything seems to work. Total HKD299 spent to replace battery. My tablet was NOT wiped, i.e. everything was as I submitted it (I figure since it's a battery and not logic-board swap, the technician wasn't going to do unnecessary work anyway), but I think it's a requirement to sign an acknowledgement that everything could be wiped, I think you can't get around it if they do. I checked and they will NOT sell you parts, it must be a service submission + you must have proof of purchase (I bought mine online - the e mail acknowledgement was good enough for them).
alancai, there seems to be consensus on the people I've checked with + websites I've looked at that what you're doing w.r.t. poking holes to release the gas buildup is potentially dangerous. You *might* be selflessly volunteering to force Sony to implement a global battery swap/replacement program once yours catches fire/kills you/does something that puts the "Sony" brand in the news, but I'm not sure the Sony user community should demand this level of sacrifice from you... .
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battery already poked. so as my MacBook battery poked. both still keep charge. but 300 hkd is ok if from official outsource company. even taobao battery and the sticker rim would cost almost half of 300.
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i no longer have any proof of purchase. just the tablet now. but i guess they can check sn to see if it's their goods.
alancai said:
battery already poked. so as my MacBook battery poked. both still keep charge. but 300 hkd is ok if from official outsource company. even taobao battery and the sticker rim would cost almost half of 300.
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https://www.howtogeek.com/244846/what-to-do-when-your-phone-or-laptop-has-a-swollen-battery/
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https://www.howtogeek.com/244846/what-to-do-when-your-phone-or-laptop-has-a-swollen-battery/
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Thanks. Battery still ok after poking and gluing the hole.
Just changed battery by myself. "new" battery is older than original by a week. Hope it lasts.