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Automatic time zone change = acting like a beta

Hi all,
did anyone had a chance to try this new WM6 feature more than once ?
it looks like they quickly added this to the kaiser while it's not working properly yet :
I change country several times a day (airline pilot) and this automatic adjustment worked (almost!) only ONCE (the first time it entered a new country).
here is what happenned the first time this automatic adjustement almost worked :
Time in niamey is UTC+1 = same as time in dublin.
Arriving at niamey, automatic switching occurs and pda time is automatically set to utc+1 and a time zone of dublin (good!). Dublin has the same time of niamey right now because of its dst. So until now everything looks satisfactory.
The problem: Looking closer, i see my appointments times are on UTC time despite the pda time being set correctly (automatically) to utc+1 !
switching manually my time zone to another one,pressing ok button, and coming back to dublin time zone again (but this time manually) gives me the correct time in niamey (same as dublin) as did the automatic adjustment did, but now at least the appointments times on pda are also on utc+1 (niamey time ).
Since then , the pda (kaiser) never changed the time zone again, despite the automatic features being turned ON... it does looks as if i select manually a time zone in the clock setting. the automatic time zone adjustment won't "work" anymore, no matter if it's checked on or not... ("work" in quotation marks because it didn't work satisfactorily even once yet).
Anybody experiences this bug ?

One thing
You do know that when you change the time zone, appointment times automatically shift so that the actual time of the event in the new time zone matches the actual time in old time zone? In other words absolute appointment times are a function of the current time zone setting. If you want to enter an appointment for an event that will occur in another time zone you should switch that time zone first and then enter the appointment in the local time zone and time and then switch the time zone back to your current time zone. You will see that the time of the appointment is listed in your current time zone such that is will occur at the time you set if for IN THE OTHER time zone (and these two numbers representing the time are not the same!). Seems a bit odd but makes sense after some thought. There is really no way for the device to know what time zone an event is scheduled for.
BTW there has been some software written to alter this default behavior of WM but I am not sure it really helps. Just another convention. More info on google...
Your other problem sounds like it may be WM not recognizing a whether or not a particular region is on dst. Just speculation on this though. I have not traveled far with my device yet nor crossed a local dst date. Here are details on the recent changes to the dst system in the US and the MS patch for this: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx#connectto_exchange_server

I think it is a bug in WM6. I have had the same type of problem in Sydney, where instead of automatically recognising Sydney(Australia), it changes to Vladivostok....and like your example causes the appointments to move incorrectly.
Either the Radio ROM is not getting the timezone correctly off the network (unlikely because my Hermes which has different radio had same problem) - or more like, WM6 doesn't interpret the data it gets from the Radio correctly.

swamp2 said:
You do know that when you change the time zone, appointment times automatically shift so that the actual time of the event in the new time zone matches the actual time in old time zone?
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Yes I do know that, and it is very logical. I use pda around the world for a few years now so i know that
Maybe i didn't explain myself clearly, so i wil try again :
I'm in Paris and it's now 12am (noon) i have an appointment at 2pm (so appointment is IN TWO hours) with a reminder 1 hour before (1pm).
I suddenly got teleported (in less than a second ) to a country where the time is one hour less than in Paris. so in paris it's now still 12 am and in this new place : 11 am.
Well, what happened is that the Kaiser time is now showing 11 am (that s good),
but, You agree that the appointment time should be showing now 1pm (new time zone) with a reminder at noon.
BUT this is not what happened. The appointments got changed to noon, with the reminder at 11am (=now!, and that how i noticed the bug... the reminder displayed on the kaiser while it was supposed to do so only IN one hour).
in brief : the kaiser time changed correctly, but the appointments timing didn't follow and got changed to another time zone (displayed pda time + appointment timing are supposed to shift together to the same time zone as usual, but it didn't). Appointment was supposed to be in 2 hours, and after the automatic time zone change appointment is hapenning in 1 hour.
a manual reverting to paris time zone then back MANUALLY to this new time zone set correctly both the time AND the appointment time.
Hope it's clear now... i know all this stuff can be confusing

Daylight Savings Time BUG FINALLY Identified - Am I the ONLY one with this problem?

Shortly after DST went off, I realized that I had a problem, because all recurring and all-day appts were one hour off (making the all-day appts span 2 days), during March-October 2008, when DST will go back into effect.
After finding no answers anywhere, I discovered that UNCHECKING the TIMEZONE setting ("automatic change time zone and clock") under PHONE options, fixed the problem.
However, I LIKE the idea that my clock will adjust automatically based on the time zone I am in. When I was with Verizon, I hated that the phone wouldn't change automatically.
I can't be the ONLY one with this issue, can I?
Please suggest how to have my cake and eat it, too!
Is EVERYONE keeping the TIME ZONE option unchecked? Or does no one have any recurring/all day appts already set for April of '08? Would really appreciate some help with this.
P.S. Even though we have wm6 on the phone, I did the DST fix from Microsoft, as well as the "extra steps" (which involves going to the clock setting, change the time zone, exit out, go back in and change to correct time zone and exit out), which does take care of the issue...for a little while. I can have the TIME ZONE option checked and it works fine...but only for a little while. Always after a soft re-set, it loses the time zone reading and sometimes it just loses it after the phone sits idle for a while.

I was under the impression that we weren't supposed to apply the DST fix at all on WM6 for the Tilt/Kaiser. I applied it way back and had all sorts of issues.
I removed it and it's been fine ever since the DST switch.

After applying the "fix" and it not changing anything, I did a hard reset and left it alone.
Do you have the Time Zone option checked in Phone settings to automatically set the time zone and clock?
If you have the Time Zone option checked, would you do an experiment?
Make a weekly recurring timed event that starts BEFORE March 1 and ends AFTER November 15, 2008. Then, do a soft reset. Then, go to your calendar and see if the events after the 2nd Sunday in March and before the 1st Sunday in November are an hour off? That's what's happening with my calendar.
And post your results here? Thanks.

I found that the auto time zone setting in Phone settings causes more problems, Activesync auto launches constantly with this setting enabled as well as occasional time jumps (eg. from PST to Mountain Time for no reason).
With the time zone setting un-checked everything is very stable BUT my stock Kaiser did not change DST correctly. I have since applied the DST patch and will wait for the next time change to see what happens.

[Q] problem with daylight saving time

i have a htc td2 running wm6.5
this morning when i woke up i saw that my clock was 1 hour ahead of time,
in my country daylight saving time goes into affect next week and i suppose that htc/microsoft had the date set for today. is there a way i can manually disable dst until next friday and then manually enable it again??
i use multiple timezones and when i manually set my local clock back an hour, all my other clocks also changed.
is there a way to fix this or should i just add another time zone which is one hour behind my "local time" for the week??

I have the same problem with my Windows Mobile 6.1. You are most likely in Israel and DST patch from Microsoft KB977014 obviously has a bug. I temporarily fixed this by setting the time to be updated manually and changing the location to Amman.
Amman moves to DST April 1st at midnight whereas Jerusalem moves 2 hours later at 2:00 am. Next Friday morning I will change the location back to Jerusalem.

[Q] Phone clock has a mind of its own

So, this is an Issue I have with almost every ROM I've tried...
I live in Chile, here our government has this retarded directive about energy-saving time where we are already an hour behind our timezone (GMT -4, we're working on GMT -3 instead because of reasons). The thing is, every gadget syncing with the Internet stays at GMT -4 instead of GMT -3, so the standard procedure is to stop auto syncing and setting the clock manually.
That's what I do with my phone, but then every time I set it to the current time, it jumps an hour ahead! If I set it at 00:00 it goes to 1:00, then if I try to set it again and just leave it like that, it jumps again to 2:00. The problem is that the lockscreen is ALWAYS an hour ahead of time, and I just don't know anymore if the whole phone is ahead, and that's kinda troublesome because I use my phone as my wake-up alarm.
What should I do to fix this?

On adjustments, date and time, untick automatic (which is defined by network) and set your own time.

Make phone send a notification every ten seconds?

Hello,
I'm currently taking driving lessons and one of the most basic thing a driver should do is look in the rearview mirrors at least once every 5-7 seconds. That's the recommended time interval in my country. However, I keep forgetting to do this and I need a constant reminder, at least until I form a habit.
I want to use Tasker to set up an alert / notification to go out every 10 seconds on my Android smartphone. This will then be caught by my Amazfit Bip on my left wrist, which will vibrate when the notification is issued. This way I'll have a constant reminder during driving lessons to check the mirrors.
I tried to set up Tasker, but it only lets me create an event every two minutes. Is there any way to lower this threshold to 10 seconds? Or maybe another app which can achieve this?
Cheers.

zugurudumba said:
Hello,
I'm currently taking driving lessons and one of the most basic thing a driver should do is look in the rearview mirrors at least once every 5-7 seconds. That's the recommended time interval in my country. However, I keep forgetting to do this and I need a constant reminder, at least until I form a habit.
I want to use Tasker to set up an alert / notification to go out every 10 seconds on my Android smartphone. This will then be caught by my Amazfit Bip on my left wrist, which will vibrate when the notification is issued. This way I'll have a constant reminder during driving lessons to check the mirrors.
I tried to set up Tasker, but it only lets me create an event every two minutes. Is there any way to lower this threshold to 10 seconds? Or maybe another app which can achieve this?
Cheers.
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Instead of using an a time context, create a loop with a 10 second wait in a task. Make sure you have a way to turn this off. Possibly set a variable and launch a notification at the start of the task. In the notification, use an action button to clear the variable. Loop only if the variable is set.