So I've taken several shots with this phone now, and I've noticed that whenever I use auto mode with the AI turned on, HDR is never used. Literally not a single picture as HDR listed in the "info" when I check it.
Slash8915 said:
So I've taken several shots with this phone now, and I've noticed that whenever I use auto mode with the AI turned on, HDR is never used. Literally not a single picture as HDR listed in the "info" when I check it.
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The dedicated HDR mode doesn't seem to do HDR too well, frankly, so I wouldn't worry about whether or not the AI selects it. I've tried it in numerous ideal HDR situations and found it lacking.
What's interesting is that if you're taking a photo in Photo mode, regardless of whether the AI is on or off, sometimes the software decides that HDR is in order, it will prompt you to hold the phone steady with the "Sharpening" toast.
In the 3X zoom mode, in low light scenarios or in extremely directional illumination, the "Sharpening" toast = destroying photo toast. In even illumination of a high-contrast scene, however, the "Sharpening" toast appears to be combining images to provide a very decent resulting HDR outcome. Go figure. And then there's the night mode, which is the best-implemented function in the camera. You can use it even in daytime to produce some really interesting looking, over-the-top HDR scenes.
I think the bottom line on HDR here based on my observations is that the phone might doing something in its regular shooting mode, even when you expect it not to and have turned off AI, but it's inconsistent and not well communicated to you. It's not as elegant, effective or transparent as Google's HDR+ and it doesn't happen for every photo.
Just my opinion.
inepty said:
The dedicated HDR mode doesn't seem to do HDR too well, frankly, so I wouldn't worry about whether or not the AI selects it. I've tried it in numerous ideal HDR situations and found it lacking.
What's interesting is that if you're taking a photo in Photo mode, regardless of whether the AI is on or off, sometimes the software decides that HDR is in order, it will prompt you to hold the phone steady with the "Sharpening" toast.
In the 3X zoom mode, in low light scenarios or in extremely directional illumination, the "Sharpening" toast = destroying photo toast. In even illumination of a high-contrast scene, however, the "Sharpening" toast appears to be combining images to provide a very decent resulting HDR outcome. Go figure. And then there's the night mode, which is the best-implemented function in the camera. You can use it even in daytime to produce some really interesting looking, over-the-top HDR scenes.
I think the bottom line on HDR here based on my observations is that the phone might doing something in its regular shooting mode, even when you expect it not to and have turned off AI, but it's inconsistent and not well communicated to you. It's not as elegant, effective or transparent as Google's HDR+ and it doesn't happen for every photo.
Just my opinion.
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You nailed it.
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Hi,
Almost every camera in the world has a halfway-click that focuses, measures the light and then takes the picture when you press the shutter button all the way.
On other phones (iPhone), where there isn't a halfway -setting, this is done by taking the picture when the user releases the button, which gives much greater control over exactly when the picture is taken.
Do you know of any program (camerazoom, snapshotpro etc?) that works this way? The stock camera app doesn't and it's quite detrimental to the quality of pictures you can take.
This means the camera needs to auto focus when I press the trackball button down and then take the picture within a split second when I let go of the button, since it no longer needs to measure light or focus. I would really love this feature.
Hi ,
Go to my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551904 the program I mentioned has this option also .
Thanks! Will check it out!
There is a workaround that i use that is effective on my mT3G. I turn auto focus off. That makes the camera focus at infinity. With these tiny lenses, infinity can start at less than three feet. So anything farther away than that is in focus if you turn off auto focus. I use SnapPhoto Pro to turn off the autofocus.
If you use SnapPhoto Pro autofocus, you touch the screen to focus and let go to take the photo. That works well. It also has a continuous focus feature which works very well but drains the battery.
Recently bought the phone off Amazon and started messing with the cameras and noticed i could have my fingers over the top and bottom camera on all modes and zoom one each and it never used them? Did I get a faulty phone or am I using something wrong?
DizzyOnion426 said:
Recently bought the phone off Amazon and started messing with the cameras and noticed i could have my fingers over the top and bottom camera on all modes and zoom one each and it never used them? Did I get a faulty phone or am I using something wrong?
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I heard this and think it is true for the P9 too, but I've learned some things since then. There are a lot of modes and resolution combinations. Try the basics first. Top cam is only zoom. Bottom is B&W.
For example, I cannot shoot with finger over zoom lens after choosing 3x zoom in Photo mode and waiting for the zoom lens to kick in (the image stabilises once the zoom lens is active).
I would try with and without AI, with different resolutions and with different modes. I just tried night mode on 10mp and covered the B&W sensor, so maybe it's all a big scam.
Thought the same first but now im sure all of them are working fine .
The phone can only use two cameras at once anyway to my knowledge .
When you zoom in good lighting it will switch to telephoto cam ( top cam ).
When you shoot in bw it will use monochrome .
When the phone tells you to stabilize fot sharpening it will trigger the monochrome sensor too .
Hi,
anybody having this issue as well?
The 5x zoom is useless for me as the camera is unable to get in focus. So a few milliseconds and only occasionally it gets sharp but then it looks blurred again.
10x produces sharp images.
Samples:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PgJ83p2Cgu8TX9WG9
Thanks!
You have to keep in mind it is a lot slower to lock focus than the main sensor. Give it time to lock on target and then take the shot or else you will end up with unfocused shots.
/ Magnus
Well it locks but then loses focus.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PgJ83p2Cgu8TX9WG9
I assume this is not normal, I have asked for a replacement.
I have noticed this issue when trying to take a photo through a window. No matter how close you hold it to the window, it will try to focus on the window. Then if you wait long enough (5-30sec) it will focus out to infinity but then it will pop back to the window after a few seconds.
It should really default to infinity since that most objects you will use the 5X lens for will be far out.
Sometimes when it just isnt working, I switch to Pro mode and manual focus, but the interface is clunky and you lose some of the auto-features.
I've never had this issue before with other phones when taking photos through a window.
I also noticed that it is not as sharp, but I assume that is a limitation of the lower resolution sensor and maybe the OIS not fully compensating.
eng3 said:
I have noticed this issue when trying to take a photo through a window. No matter how close you hold it to the window, it will try to focus on the window. Then if you wait long enough (5-30sec) it will focus out to infinity but then it will pop back to the window after a few seconds.
It should really default to infinity since that most objects you will use the 5X lens for will be far out.
Sometimes when it just isnt working, I switch to Pro mode and manual focus, but the interface is clunky and you lose some of the auto-features.
I've never had this issue before with other phones when taking photos through a window.
I also noticed that it is not as sharp, but I assume that is a limitation of the lower resolution sensor and maybe the OIS not fully compensating.
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Mine focus perfectly through windows.
I am planning to get a new S10 soon. With the new dedicate night mode update, I have a few questions:
1. Is it possible to use Night mode in bright condition(like during a sunny day)? This because night mode in the Pixel phone provide better quality even in bright condition.
2. Is it possible to force Night mode to use the telephoto camera.
3. Is it possible to force Night mode to use the ultra wide angle camera
Thanks!
1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
Except there is no forcing anything as you just selection the options normally on the camera app interface
Also this is a thread for the Q&A section.
2 is apperently in the works as well for ultra wide angle
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2 is apperently in the works as well for ultra wide angle
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2 is referring to the 2x optical zoom lens. Night mode already works with the Ultra wide lens.
Can I also ask if the night mode is actually useable? IE does not require super steady hands or long exposure times? For example with the Ultra wide which has a smaller aperture.
What kind of exposure times are usually applied in the dark? I'm talking about in the outdoors, some street lights, artificial lighting etc.
more than usable
lee82gx said:
Can I also ask if the night mode is actually useable? IE does not require super steady hands or long exposure times? For example with the Ultra wide which has a smaller aperture.
What kind of exposure times are usually applied in the dark? I'm talking about in the outdoors, some street lights, artificial lighting etc.
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Night mode doesn't need super steady hands. A normal non-shaky hand is enough to get an excellent photograph.
Exposure is based on the lighting available. For me, outdoors with street lighting shot has always been around 1/6 th of a second. Again this always depends on the light available for the sensor you are using.
One of the main reasons I bought this phone was for the camera specs at the time. However, I now see that the second lens is basically just a prop that does nothing. Is there any way to make it work in normal might aside from locking the focus before shooting something darker? Any option is on the table. Can I somehow tell the API that it's bright enough?