Going to update to a Note 9 YES/NO - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So with the Note 9 only about 1 months and 7 days away and plenty rumours/leaks going, are you considering upgrading your Note 5 and if so, what would be your main decider/s for doing so?
I'm well happy with N5 but if I for under 1k can get 512gb storage, 8gb ram, closer to 4000mah battery (maybe even faster charging) camera even better than S9+, upgraded front cam (maybe even a dual) s-pen we know will come with new stuff just not what yet.
Improved DeX experience, Bixby 2.0
Stereo speakers
What else could sway you?
Forget about the under screen fp scanner, it won't happen

Note5 user had to give up note 7, so yes

Probably not. I've had the Note 5 since launch day. If the rumors are to be believed the Note 9 won't really offer much more than what my 5 is giving me. Maybe I can squeeze another year out of the 5 in hopes that the Note 10 will really blow me away.
What would they have to add to make me switch? Killer battery life, I'm talking 2 days of my "normal" usage. The addition of an in-screen fingerprint reader would make an upgrade really hard to resist. I'd really like some kind of surprise, a surprise technology that is actually useful. Dex laptop with a big-ass battery would be a great feature.
I've been really happy with the Note 5 all this time. Didn't feel like the Notes 6 ,7 or 8 have been worth the cost/new feature ratio. I've been using android since the G1 and every phone I've had has been rooted and ROMed, all but the Note 5. Maybe a new ROM will stretch this phone's life out another year.

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Note 5 alternatives that are better and cheaper

My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
Now thinking of the LG G4 Pro when it comes out or there's the new Motorola X Style coming out next month for only £359.99:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/pre-order-motorola-x-style-359-99-coming-september/
When you compare the specs of this phone and the price to the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ 32GB – £600 including VAT (£500+VAT) 64GB – £680 including VAT (£566.67+VAT) you can see how Samsung are rapidly becoming the new Nokia.
Perhaps they shouldn't rely on 'focus groups' so much?
Don't know if cheaper but I'll be moving to LG g4 pro hopefully if it has what I want. Contract expires soon
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Galaxaster said:
My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
Now thinking of the LG G4 Pro when it comes out or there's the new Motorola X Style coming out next month for only £359.99:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/pre-order-motorola-x-style-359-99-coming-september/
When you compare the specs of this phone and the price to the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ 32GB – £600 including VAT (£500+VAT) 64GB – £680 including VAT (£566.67+VAT) you can see how Samsung are rapidly becoming the new Nokia.
Perhaps they shouldn't rely on 'focus groups' so much?
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Yes, the G Pro 4 as the lad above me said, it will be a really heavy hitter. Or...
...the previous Notes, 3 and 4.
True, no 64 bit processors, but the Note 4's camera is comparable to the one in the Note 5, also removable battery, also the same 2K screen.
The Note 3 - camera is obviously weaker, but due to the screen not being 2K, doesn't drain the battery so much, plus we have ports of the Note 4 and S6. The phone is still powerful even today. And these days it's dirt cheap.
Or if you don't care about battery life too much, wait for the new Nexuses. I'm eyeing the Nexus 5 (2015) cause rumors claim it will be Full HD screen instead of 2K + the Snapdragon 820 inside.
Thanks, Samsung, for a 3000 mAh battery in a phone that could have had 4000 easily, and this bull***t "why use your phone for longer when you can charge it faster"? F*** logic.
If my only upgrade options are with pathetic battery life, I think I'll get pathetic battery life with pure Android.
I've also read that the Nexus 5 (15) is going to have the 620 snapdragon.
Yes... The Moto X PE
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sirobelec said:
Yes, the G Pro 4 as the lad above me said, it will be a really heavy hitter. Or...
...the previous Notes, 3 and 4.
True, no 64 bit processors, but the Note 4's camera is comparable to the one in the Note 5, also removable battery, also the same 2K screen.
The Note 3 - camera is obviously weaker, but due to the screen not being 2K, doesn't drain the battery so much, plus we have ports of the Note 4 and S6. The phone is still powerful even today. And these days it's dirt cheap.
Or if you don't care about battery life too much, wait for the new Nexuses. I'm eyeing the Nexus 5 (2015) cause rumors claim it will be Full HD screen instead of 2K + the Snapdragon 820 inside.
Thanks, Samsung, for a 3000 mAh battery in a phone that could have had 4000 easily, and this bull***t "why use your phone for longer when you can charge it faster"? F*** logic.
If my only upgrade options are with pathetic battery life, I think I'll get pathetic battery life with pure Android.
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I don't think we're going to see a phone with the Snapdragon 820 until 2016. I'd love to be proven wrong though. It just got announced.
Best hope we have is a G4 Pro with the full Snapdragon 810 that doesn't overheat and with all we wanted in the Note (removable battery, SD card) and of course what you would expect in a flagship (awesome screen - probably with LG it will be IPS, top end camera, and the other features). I'd love for a return to a Nexus with a removable battery and storage but I don't think that is happening.
The last LG G pro, the LG G pro 2 wasn't released for the US market. Maybe the LG G pro 3 will be different.
The LG g4 isn't really an option because it has inferior graphics performance vs the note 4 and almost no development support.
Anyway I'm going to give the Note 5 a try. If I don't like it, I have 14 days to return it.
Galaxaster said:
My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
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Don't be so dramatic . Enjoy your note4, it's a great phone, the s6 is a great phone too, the note5 is a mistake when you consider its predecessors only. Next year Samsung might wisen up and make a great phone again
godutch said:
Don't be so dramatic . Enjoy your note4, it's a great phone, the s6 is a great phone too, the note5 is a mistake when you consider its predecessors only. Next year Samsung might wisen up and make a great phone again
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HTC and Motorola have both done the same thing. They both removed expandable storage and then restored it.
The HTC M7 and Moto X both lacked microsd card support. The HTC restored expandable storage in the M8 and M9 while motorola restored it in the Moto X style.
The best alternative to the Note 5? You already own it, it's called the Note 4!
With that said, if you really don't need the Wacom pen (I do), I'd also have suggested the LG G4 or the Moto X Style/Pure if you can also do without a removable battery, with the latter's strongest selling point being that it works on just about any network you can imagine, no countless variants with locked-out bands like everyone who isn't Apple or Google tends to do.
I still don't believe the LG G4 Pro is a thing until it gets officially announced, but if they stop faffing about with capacitive styluses and put a proper Wacom digitizer in there, they're gonna steal all of the Galaxy Note users ticked off by the Note 5 in one fell swoop.
NamelessFragger said:
The best alternative to the Note 5? You already own it, it's called the Note 4!
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I'm using a Note 3 and its wonderful. I bought TWO Note 1's. The first one got flakey after a year and I didn't like the Note 2 cause of the narrower screen so I got another Note 1. Now I've upgraded to the Note 3 and the software (AryaMod 7.2 + a kernel with memory compression) is really maturing, I have a 128GB SD which I'll soon upgrade to 200GB, 256GB or 512GB depending on prices at the end of the year. The Note 3 was the great leap forward.
The Note 4 was an incremental step over the Note 3. I bit of a step backwards losing USB 3.0. But otherwise its a Note 3+
The Note5 is an evil degenerative troll. They should just cancel it and wait till next year.
Hopefully sales will be so bad that they will be compelled to release a fixit version of the Note 5 with SD, and either removable battery or make the silly thing water proof to give you a reason the battery can't be removed.
The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
PurpleMelbourne said:
The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
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Really I think it will be a good phone, one of the best on the market but for note4 and s6 owners this phone won't be a straight upgrade more of a sidegrade, where you sacrifice some functionality for other functionality. It shouldn't have been, it should have a clear upgrade
The Note 5 has a lot of competition
The Huawei Mate 8 is launching next month.
Add this to the growing list of Note 5 alternatives:
http://vinereport.com/article/huawei.mate.8.mate.8.to.be.officially.released.in.ifa.new.phone.will.have.front.facing.led.flash.for.front.cam/2344.htm
That mate 8 phone sounds really impressive but these phones need to have some kinda pen especially since their bigger .. I hope the g4 pro ends up releasing
Biggest problem is every damn phone out there have somefunction wich is missing compared to N4
Exempel. Most phones dont have IR like moto
Removabale battery
The S pen and muti window
Support for my Gear S
No wireless charging
And other small stuff... So whatever damn phone i look at is missing functions
Im stickning with my N4 and dont know why we all Gotta chnage phones..mine is great.
Btw. Note 3 owners. Uppgrade to N4 i have them both at Home and n4 is better and worth it.
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For me, the main festure I want that Samsung has now failed on with both the Note 4 and Note 5, is a larger screen than my Note 3. All the things they did taking steps backwards with the Note 5, is just adding insult to injury for me. I don't care what the hell was in the phone, if it still a has a "small ass" 5.7 inch screen, I don't want it. Now I'm completely ready to jump to another manufacturer, after having the original Note and then Note 3, as long as someone comes out with a high end phone with a larger screen than 5.7 inches.
PurpleMelbourne said:
I'm using a Note 3 and its wonderful. I bought TWO Note 1's. The first one got flakey after a year and I didn't like the Note 2 cause of the narrower screen so I got another Note 1. Now I've upgraded to the Note 3 and the software (AryaMod 7.2 + a kernel with memory compression) is really maturing, I have a 128GB SD which I'll soon upgrade to 200GB, 256GB or 512GB depending on prices at the end of the year. The Note 3 was the great leap forward.
The Note 4 was an incremental step over the Note 3. I bit of a step backwards losing USB 3.0. But otherwise its a Note 3+
The Note5 is an evil degenerative troll. They should just cancel it and wait till next year.
Hopefully sales will be so bad that they will be compelled to release a fixit version of the Note 5 with SD, and either removable battery or make the silly thing water proof to give you a reason the battery can't be removed.
The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
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I definitely agree in that the Note 3 was the biggest leap forward, given the jump to 1080p, USB 3.0, S800, IR blaster and so forth.
The Note 4 lost USB 3.0, ambient temp and humidity sensors for whatever dumb reason, but I do like the fast charge, pen tilt sensitivity and Gear VR it brought to the table. It probably helped that I was coming from an S3 (would've been a Note 2 if I had my way); coming from a Note 3, you'd gain a lot less, even losing a little.
But you'd lose a lot less than going to the Note 5. Samsung really screwed us this time, and I can only hope they realize their error by bringing back everything with the Note 6.
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Will you update to the Note 9?

Samsung is going to host an unpack at NYC Aug 9th 2018,
since we missed the note 7, did not update to note 8, how about note 9?
Hi, i still have my N920C Note 5 running totally fine on Extreme Debloated ROM 3.3 since a few years now as my daily driver. I am still unsure about any major improvements to spend/waste cash and ditch my Note 5 for a newer one. However, i wish that there was a newer version of my current ROM since i'm stuck on Android 6.0 (i don't think the other ROMs are better to be honest, especially on the battery) but like i said, it's all working fine. I can still take some nice pictures and videos on Auto mode. I watched a video review by MKBHD and wasn't particularly impressed by the Note 9.
For those who are interested in the latest Note, i would advise to just wait a bit for real world usage reviews to start coming in. Don't rush to purchase something which has failed spectacularly in the past with the Note 7.
No, you'd have to be an idiot to fork up to a Samsung phone knowing that they won't support it for very long.
You're better off buying Xiaomi phones on a regular basis, for a fraction of the cost. Furthermore, becuase they use modern - medium/high end hardware, your battery lasts longer.
Samsung needs to step up their game. They don't deserve the level of trust the brand implies.
In comparison I did borrow a Xiaomi Note 5 Plus for a month ($154usd), it was significantly faster than my note 5, had Android 8.0, 10 hrs screen on time and easily 4-7+ days with quite regular usage. I don't often even get 1 anymore, depending on how I use the note 5. Our device sucks and we do not have any active rom support what so ever. All of our updates now revolve around Google's monthly security patches.
Turbine1991 said:
No, you'd have to be an idiot to fork up to a Samsung phone knowing that they won't support it for very long.
You're better off buying Xiaomi phones on a regular basis, for a fraction of the cost. Furthermore, becuase they use modern - medium/high end hardware, your battery lasts longer.
Samsung needs to step up their game. They don't deserve the level of trust the brand implies.
In comparison I did borrow a Xiaomi Note 5 Plus for a month ($154usd), it was significantly faster than my note 5, had Android 8.0, 10 hrs screen on time and easily 4-7+ days with quite regular usage. I don't often even get 1 anymore, depending on how I use the note 5. Our device sucks and we do not have any active rom support what so ever. All of our updates now revolve around Google's monthly security patches.
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4 to 7 day battery life, 10 hours of screen on time. /r/thathappened
The Xiaomi Note 5 Plus is worse in every aspect compared to the Note 5 besides modern Android support.
Seems like you bought the Note 5 for the wrong reasons.
I guess I value higher quality components over having a newer version of Android.
Got mine on order
Can't wait for root for it
in my country
note 5 $11.000
note 8 $38.000
note 9 $50.000??
where a salary avg is around $25.000, love samsung, but their prices are very high! samsung is a mother fu*k*#$ crazy!
I won't get one. I love my Note FE. Am on Oreo. Just the right size. The Note 9 is too big!
You must be crazy to invest again on Samsung.
Note 5 was my personal lesson in order to blacklist this company which doesn't respect me as a customer.
You cannot ask your customers to pay a premium price and then abandon them like this...
The company I work gave me the S9+ within the bonus list. Didn't even open the box and sold it with no regrets.
Furthermore Samsung is not leading technology in android anymore.
Want to get the best camera in the market , Samsung is not the option.
Want the best speed in the market , Samsung is not the option.
Want the best battery in the market , Samsung is not the option.
Want the best price/performance ratio , Samsung is not the option.
Want the best android update support , Samsung is not the option.
Want any combination of the above , Samsung is not an option...
NEVER AGAIN Samsung.

Worth upgrading from Galaxy Note 8?

I wonder if any of you broke your Galaxy Note 8 contract to get a Galaxy Note 9 or switched from a Galaxy Note 8?
Is the Galaxy Note 9 worth the switch?
Yeah, for me, definitely. Battery life is much better. That was a deal breaker for me on the Note 8. I really wanted to get 2 years out of it but my experience as regards battery life was really frustrating.
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I wonder if any of you broke your Galaxy Note 8 contract to get a Galaxy Note 9 or switched from a Galaxy Note 8?
Is the Galaxy Note 9 worth the switch?
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I have both among other brands and imho if you have a Note 8 and you are happy with it just keep it. One of the things that I enjoy the most about the 8 when compared to the 9 is the thickness or the lack of it for that matter, everything else could be considered software differences and they will both get the Android Pie next year allegedly. Then again opinions vary and I am pretty sure we do have a lot of owners here that could probably pitch in with more info......
I have both. I like N8 as it has root up to the 3rd bootloader version and is just an amazing device. My N9 for me doesn't need root..great battery usually get 7 to 8hrs screen time..amazing camera..dual bluetooth..fingerprint scanner better position..no lag after constant heavy use. But just like above post mentioned to each his own, Note 8 is a great device, just comes down to the user and what they want. Me I would say yes, but I wouldn't get rid of Note 8 to get one. I was lucky and had another upgrade so was able to do that but I understand for some that is not an option.
NOTE 9
The Note 9 is an outstanding device, coming from the N8 however there are only a few things that scream yes. It just depends on if these are worth anything to you?
1)Better Fingerprint Location
2)512gb available Storage option
3)8gb Ran Option
4)Better Battery life
5)if you like the bluetooth S-Pen features.
It's a refinement on the Note 8 and done well, Samsung were never ever going to implement golden features to the Note 9 (Eg UD scanner ect) with the 10th Anniversary next year.
This also brings into question, perhaps hold off for the S10 and if you can even the Note 10.
However I can say the Note 9 is an absolute joy to use.....:good:
I have both. My 128GB Note 9 is my primary, though on e my 512GB Note 9 gets here tomorrow, it will be my primary. My Note 8 is my backup.
Honestly, there's very little difference between the two as far as everyday useage. The battery life on the Note 9 is better, but I never had a problem with the battery life on my Note 8. The Bluetooth features on the SPen are cool, but not a deal maker.
Don't listen to anyone about fingerprint sensor location. If you have a Note 8, you know as well as I do that you got used to the FP sensor location within about 10 minutes and never thought about it again.
The camera has some slight improvements, but now that the Note 8 has super slo-mo mode and AR emojis, the difference is negligible.
Is it worth it? Maybe not. But do I regret upgrading? Not at all. But I'm a gadget guy. I have the newest and all the bells and whistles. It's really up to you. If you're happy with your Note 8, you'll love the Note 9...cause it's basically the same device.
For me it was,battery life and stereo speakers. Apart from that it's the same for me. Still worth the it
Ok, yeah the stereo speakers are a really nice upgrade.
You'll immediately notice:
(1) Way better battery life.
(2) Stereo speakers are so much better!
(3) Feels quicker and Bluetooth features are cool if you're an s-pen user.
poplectic said:
Yeah, for me, definitely. Battery life is much better. That was a deal breaker for me on the Note 8. I really wanted to get 2 years out of it but my experience as regards battery life was really frustrating.
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Cheers, poplectic. I haven't had problems with the battery for the Note 8, but I'm not a heavy or power user like I maybe used to be. I still have a year contract left.
rayporsche said:
I have both among other brands and imho if you have a Note 8 and you are happy with it just keep it. One of the things that I enjoy the most about the 8 when compared to the 9 is the thickness or the lack of it for that matter, everything else could be considered software differences and they will both get the Android Pie next year allegedly. Then again opinions vary and I am pretty sure we do have a lot of owners here that could probably pitch in with more info......
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Thanks, rayporsche. Do you mean that the Note 8 fits better in the hand, or is easier to hold, etc? I look forward to Android Pie. It's nice to get a decent upgrade for a phone which is less than 2 years old (here in Japan).
butchieboy said:
I have both. I like N8 as it has root up to the 3rd bootloader version and is just an amazing device. My N9 for me doesn't need root..great battery usually get 7 to 8hrs screen time..amazing camera..dual bluetooth..fingerprint scanner better position..no lag after constant heavy use. But just like above post mentioned to each his own, Note 8 is a great device, just comes down to the user and what they want. Me I would say yes, but I wouldn't get rid of Note 8 to get one. I was lucky and had another upgrade so was able to do that but I understand for some that is not an option.
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Thanks, butchieboy. I might see how expensive it might be to upgrade. If I'm honest, it's not such a big deal nowadays for my needs, but I'm curious all the same.
Duncan1982 said:
The Note 9 is an outstanding device, coming from the N8 however there are only a few things that scream yes. It just depends on if these are worth anything to you?
1)Better Fingerprint Location
2)512gb available Storage option
3)8gb Ran Option
4)Better Battery life
5)if you like the bluetooth S-Pen features.
It's a refinement on the Note 8 and done well, Samsung were never ever going to implement golden features to the Note 9 (Eg UD scanner ect) with the 10th Anniversary next year.
This also brings into question, perhaps hold off for the S10 and if you can even the Note 10.
However I can say the Note 9 is an absolute joy to use.....:good:
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Thanks, Duncan1982. Some good points about holding off. Just one year to go. The fingerprint sensor location is the only thing which is inconvenient when holding the phone with one hand. (My hands are medium sized I expect.)
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I have both. My 128GB Note 9 is my primary, though on e my 512GB Note 9 gets here tomorrow, it will be my primary. My Note 8 is my backup.
Honestly, there's very little difference between the two as far as everyday useage. The battery life on the Note 9 is better, but I never had a problem with the battery life on my Note 8. The Bluetooth features on the SPen are cool, but not a deal maker.
Don't listen to anyone about fingerprint sensor location. If you have a Note 8, you know as well as I do that you got used to the FP sensor location within about 10 minutes and never thought about it again.
The camera has some slight improvements, but now that the Note 8 has super slo-mo mode and AR emojis, the difference is negligible.
Is it worth it? Maybe not. But do I regret upgrading? Not at all. But I'm a gadget guy. I have the newest and all the bells and whistles. It's really up to you. If you're happy with your Note 8, you'll love the Note 9...cause it's basically the same device.
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Thanks, Mr. Orange 645. Enjoy all of your gadgets.
tomplatz said:
For me it was,battery life and stereo speakers. Apart from that it's the same for me. Still worth the it
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Cheers, tomplatz. The stereo speakers definitely appeal to me, although I mostly use earphones.
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Ok, yeah the stereo speakers are a really nice upgrade.
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Good to know.
PsiPhiDan said:
You'll immediately notice:
(1) Way better battery life.
(2) Stereo speakers are so much better!
(3) Feels quicker and Bluetooth features are cool if you're an s-pen user.
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Thanks, PsiPhiDan. Quite a few votes for the battery life and stereo speakers, then.
Thank everyone. I've yet to see the Note 9 here in Japan in the flesh, so I look forward to doing so.
Quote: Thanks, rayporsche. Do you mean that the Note 8 fits better in the hand, or is easier to hold, etc? I look forward to Android Pie. It's nice to get a decent upgrade for a phone which is less than 2 years old (here in Japan).
In my opinion it does feels better kinda of skinnier then again it is almost imperceptible most of the time. It's all a matter of choice if you will like I prefer to use my devices 'naked' without cases and such, they are so beautiful that it would almost be a crime to hide them. Also nowadays we find ourselves helplessly multitasking and it helps to use the phone single handed something that it is not always so easy with the Note 9 or the 8 for that matter, it seems like the new One UI will address that area positively. Lately I've been using a Huawei Mate 10 Porsche Design and that may be why I feel the Note 9 so big sometimes yet the Note 9 remains my favorite, the Huawei is a beautiful device running EMUI 8.0.0 which would be like the Samsung Experience of sorts and it is in the same boat as Samsung with the Android 9 update schedule for 2019. Good luck with your decision !
@Grant
We should say thank you for taking time to try and respond to each comment with your input. For me that's what I like to do get several views on a topic even though its ultimately up to you. Good luck my friend.
NOTE 9

Oneplus 6T to Note 9

Hi guys I am starting to get bored of this phone and looking to purchase a Note 9. Has anyone else done same. And as I am in uk how is Battery life on exynos version.
Well, I'm coming from a OnePlus 6 (8/128GB version) to a Note 9 (6/128GB Snapdragon version).
I can say the overall experience isn't as different as I thought it would be. I got used to Samsung Experience rather quickly. Haven't used the OP6 since getting the Note 9.
Check out the battery threads to get an idea of what to expect for the Exynos version. I get around the same battery performance with both the 6 and Note 9, but one has a FHD screen and the other a QHD screen. One has a stock Android experience, the other has tons of bloat (including processes).
I've got a Oneplus 6, fancy a note 9
The 2 things I love the most is the gcam hack and clean android
Whats the best note to get for using it the gcam hack with the sd845 or exynos? And are there any fully working clean android roms again is it better to get the sd845 or exynos?
Thanks
I had the OP5T and got quite bored with it also and i got the 512GB Exynos N9 and am quite enjoying it. I am also running Samsung Pie beta and everything is good. Just a lot more bloatware on Samsung compared to OP5T. I haven't looked back either
I also came from a Oneplus 5T and while I wasn't bored with the 5T, I just felt like it was time to upgrade. My decision came down to the N9 and the Oneplus 6T. Originally I purchased the 512GB N960DF/DS because of the unlock BL potential but quickly returned the phone because the signal was horrific and I was missing important LTE bands on ATT. I then bit the bullet and decided on the N9 US unlocked version. I am an admitted itchy finger custom rom flasher and I've always had unlocked phones in the past that allowed rooting. Obviously, the N9 US has locked BL so no root or TWRP. To be honest, I haven't even been bothered with the non ability to root. I really enjoy the stock version of the phone and I've grown fond of Samsung Pay, Knox encryption, Secured Folders, and Bixby. Root on this phone would obviously kill warranty, trip Knox and kill the ability to secure the phone properly. For a $1000 phone, that's too much of a risk if I ever have to put in a warranty claim.
The N9 IMO is superb in every way especially in the screen, audio, and overall speed department. Battery life on SD845 appears to be similar to my OP5T but that's saying a lot because the battery on my OP5T was heavily tweaked using custom kernels. I'm happy with the Samsung Experience thus far so my only worry is that I don't get bored with the locked BL down the road. This is the reason I bought the N960U1 unlocked version that cab be used on ANY network CSMA & GSM for better resale value. I did flash ATT firmware to get my carrier features such as Wifi Calling, Volte, etc but I will simply flash the stock unlocked firmware when it's time to sell. I feel like I'm winning in this deal so far! Good luck with your decision.
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I tried a 6T and also got bored of it. Went back to my note 9 just has more options, better screen, better fingerprint reader, s pen, better camera, better battery etc etc
oneandroidnut said:
I tried a 6T and also got bored of it. Went back to my note 9 just has more options, better screen, better fingerprint reader, s pen, better camera, better battery etc etc
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Same here have the 6T and just place a order for Note 9 gonna use it for a week or 2 and decide which to sell or send back
Well for the price I'd hope the Note 9 is better. I have both and use both for certain situations. I use the 6T on the weekends, love stock, clesn and slightly faster overall. I use the Note 9 when traveling, work
oneandroidnut said:
I tried a 6T and also got bored of it. Went back to my note 9 just has more options, better screen, better fingerprint reader, s pen, better camera, better battery etc etc
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In uk with Samsung cashback bought it for £650 New
worldsoutro said:
Well for the price I'd hope the Note 9 is better. I have both and use both for certain situations. I use the 6T on the weekends, love stock, clesn and slightly faster overall. I use the Note 9 when traveling, work
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I mean I don't disagree, for the money I think it is a nice phone I just prefer the note. I mean I didn't full retail for 512 gb note 9 but I didn't either for my 6T. About $570 vs $930. Is the note 9 double the phone of the 6T? Nah but did I use the note 9 more when i had both, yup. i am trying pixel 3 now to see how it compared with a price in between the two
worldsoutro said:
Well for the price I'd hope the Note 9 is better. I have both and use both for certain situations. I use the 6T on the weekends, love stock, clesn and slightly faster overall. I use the Note 9 when traveling, work
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I pulled the trigger on a brand new note 9 for £590
My op6 is the 256gb version and therefore was only 20 quid less
I have the 6T 8/256 and the Note SM-N960FD 6/128, and have been trying to pick one to use and one to sell. By buying the Note on Black Friday I paid the same for both phones ($630). I'm in the US on T-Mobile and require root. It's a really tough call. The 6T is a better pure phone for my needs but it's hard to pass up the amazing hardware on the Note.
6T pros:
Form factor & high screen:body. Speed. Useful mods & minimal bloat. Great battery life & SOT. Dash charging. Full TMB support w/o hacks (LTE bands, CA, VoLTE, Wi-Fi call/text). No issues w/root & encryption. TWRP can decrypt data. Similarity to Pixel makes features like GCam easier to port.
6T cons:
Screen & camera not best in class. No SD slot. No notification LED. No headphone jack. No wireless charging. Weak vibration motor. No IP certification. Curve of display corners.
Note pros:
Screen A+ from DisplayMate. Great camera w/2x zoom. Stereo speakers w/Atmos. SD slot. S-Pen. DeX. USB 3.0. Rear fingerprint & iris scan. Some Samsung features & apps add value.
Note cons:
Exynos performance per AnandTech. Modem missing TMB LTE bands & CA capability in US. Loss of features/value upon rooting & tripping Knox. No warranty. Root & encrypted data don't like to coexist. Proprietary Samsung encryption (TWRP can't decrypt). Samsung bloat in background processes. Proprietary IMS/VoLTE stack. Broken MTP file transfer on Mac. Slow OS updates. Size & squared design. One UI in upcoming Pie release wastes screen real estate.
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I have the 6T 8/256 and the Note SM-N960FD 6/128, and have been trying to pick one to use and one to sell. By buying the Note on Black Friday I paid the same for both phones ($630). I'm in the US on T-Mobile and require root. It's a really tough call. The 6T is a better pure phone for my needs but it's hard to pass up the amazing hardware on the Note.
6T pros:
Form factor & high screen:body. Speed. Useful mods & minimal bloat. Great battery life & SOT. Dash charging. Full TMB support w/o hacks (LTE bands, CA, VoLTE, Wi-Fi call/text). No issues w/root & encryption. TWRP can decrypt data. Similarity to Pixel makes features like GCam easier to port.
6T cons:
Screen & camera not best in class. No SD slot. No notification LED. No headphone jack. No wireless charging. Weak vibration motor. No IP certification. Curve of display corners.
Note pros:
Screen A+ from DisplayMate. Great camera w/2x zoom. Stereo speakers w/Atmos. SD slot. S-Pen. DeX. USB 3.0. Rear fingerprint & iris scan. Some Samsung features & apps add value.
Note cons:
Exynos performance per AnandTech. Modem missing TMB LTE bands & CA capability in US. Loss of features/value upon rooting & tripping Knox. No warranty. Root & encrypted data don't like to coexist. Proprietary Samsung encryption (TWRP can't decrypt). Samsung bloat in background processes. Proprietary IMS/VoLTE stack. Broken MTP file transfer on Mac. Slow OS updates. Size & squared design. One UI in upcoming Pie release wastes screen real estate.
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Why do you "require" root? Not sure how note 9 slow os updates are a negative I have unlocked note 9 and get regular updates every month like a pixel device. Pie isn't that bad if you use it. Few things they need to fix but it isn't a negative about the device thus far
Update received my note 9 but glad I did not unsealed it as the online retailer (John Lewis) does not accept returns on unsealed item unless faulty. Guess gonna have to keep 6T.
I sold my One Plus 6 for a Huawei mate 20 pro I had to put 600 along with OP6 because I wanted the Twilight 256 GB version. Big mistake.big. Huge. I can almost guarantee that if your a power user you will be disappointed with the Note 9 it will slow down and all the preloaded bloat will really upset you after a while. The Huawei is one of the fastest phone's on the planet right now but certainly doesn't feel like it. If you're used to snappy performance few handsets will feel like a OP6 in my opinion and I have no allegiance to any brand for me it's the speed that is everything. Benchmarks don't mean **** in the real world and the Huawei was like a son of Samsung. I had the last Note 8 and many Samsung's over the years and again it just began to irritate me after time. I do understand your boredom that's always a problem for me I was lucky to sell my Huawei this side of Xmas and now my fingers are wrapped around One Plus 6 T McLaren edition. God it's good to be home.
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I have both as well and it's really a tough choice. I have the 6T 8gb/128 and Note 9 128gb dual sim. The OnePlus is faster at everything while the Note 9 seems to do everything slightly better. It my hand, the 6T feels like a better form factor, but the screen of the Note 9 is beautiful (and less rounded, not sure why OnePlus rounded the screen so much!).
When I need stuff done quickly and painlessly, the 6T is my pick. When I have time to kill or want to watch videos/play games, the Note 9 is amazing. Also, to me, the Note 9 is not usable without a case. The combination of dry hands, heavy phone that's slippery and curved edges means the phone slips frequently, I constantly touch the edges of the screen with accidental taps, and after you put the Note 9 in a decent case (I use spigen neo), turns a large phone into something even bigger.
You probably know this but the Note 9 is a bigger phone but the screen is the same size as the 6T.
I'm leaning towards the 6T because it's fast and reliable, not the most exciting but if I get bored, I can easily root it and tinker. Also, when Android 10 beta is released, I won't be waiting months for it.
I'm in the same boat trying to decide which one to hold and which one to flip, between Oneplus 6 256 vs Note 9 128.
Both have their pros and cons. What's so far making me lean towards Note 9 are the speakers, screen size, battery & better vibration motor. I've already rooted my Note 9.
What I'm missing from my Oneplus 6 is the super fluid stock like Android Pie experience, better hand grip & size, faster face unlock, faster fingerprint and stability with the apps. Battery life is one of my big concerns on OP6 which is good, but not even close to Note 9. Although ones deciding against the OP6T, it's pretty close to N9.
So far holding on both.
Thanks!
I have both. I moved on from note 9 to 6T. 6T while it has smaller battery lasts longer than note 9. Even with One UI. Note 9s standby drain is significantly better on One UI but overall 6T lasts longer for my day to day use.
Speaker is definitely better on note 9 but I rarely use the speaker.
things that keeps me staying with 6T is size of the phone, Google camera port, and stock Android feel.
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I have both. I moved on from note 9 to 6T. 6T while it has smaller battery lasts longer than note 9. Even with One UI. Note 9s standby drain is significantly better on One UI but overall 6T lasts longer for my day to day use.
Speaker is definitely better on note 9 but I rarely use the speaker.
things that keeps me staying with 6T is size of the phone, Google camera port, and stock Android feel.
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The size of both phones is almost exact width wise and note is just a tad taller
forgot to mention the biggest issue with Note 9. connectivity consistency. I know a game might not be the most effective way to testing, but sliter.io which is an online game that is dependent on having a low latency connection, is horrible on Note 9. Under the same conditions, Note 9 CONSTANTLY, and I mean CONSTANT, lags and studders while, my 6T, Iphone 6, Iphone 8, Ipad 2018, Pixelbook, doesn't.
Other connectivity problem is bluetooth. 6T is consistently more stable at longer range.. roughly 2x the range of Note 9.. again under same conditions.

Any reason to upgrade to the Galaxy Note 20 (Ultra)?

I want your thoughts. Why would or wouldn't I upgrade from a Galaxy Note 9 to the new Galaxy Note 20 (or Note 20 Ultra)?
Here's what I think/understand about the situation:
The Galaxy Note 9 still works fine
Android 10 will be the last Android upgrade the Note 9 will see.
One UI Updates for the Galaxy Note 9 until One Ui 2.5. Note 9 users won't get One UI 3.0 and beyond
It looks like us Note 9 users will continue to receive security updates. But, for how long?
Of course the Galaxy Note 20/Galaxy Note 20 Ultra are going to be better devices than the Note 9 in terms of specs, that's to be expected. If my screen was cracked, I could justify an upgrade.
Any other compelling reasons or features that would make one want to upgrade?
Bottom line, people will get one for their own reason. Or get one because they have had every Note since Note 1.
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No
The Note9 has:
No notch or hole display
Headphone jack
Led notification light
Iris scanner
Heart rate monitor
Bixby button (yes i say it as an advantage, I've made it a mute toggle via BxActions app)
Better rear camera design (personal opinion)
Hard press home button
More reliable rear placed physical fingerprint sensor
512GB storage (I'm comparing the 512/8 GB model as that's the best Note9 model)
Note20 Ultra has:
Ultrawide camera
S Pen air actions
No bixby button (can be advantage or disadvantage)
Wireless powershare
Ultra wide band chip which they advertised
5G
Longer software update support
Honestly the Note9 seems like a better device imo. The features it has are very useful in every day situations.
The only thing missing from it which would have been nice is the Ultra wide camera which isn't as big of a deal as the headphone jack or a nice looking uninterrupted display. Cameras on Note9 still take amazing pictures and video. Everyone who sees them is surprised how good they are. I just bought my 512 Exynos 5 months ago and am loving it more than any device that launched after it. Also don't care for software updates so that's that. It got Android 8.1 out of the box, got Android 9, got Android 10 with OneUI 2.0, got OneUI 2.1 and seems like it will get OneUI 2.5. I mentioned UI updates as those introduce more features than an OS update Basically you've almost got a Note20 Ultra in terms of software but you've also got more features which you'd actually use daily. And that Ocean Blue with the yellow S Pen looks awesome
PS: The regular Note20 is a joke and shouldn't even be considered.
If there is something that YOU need on the Note 20/20 Ultra then you get it. Don't look to us to justify a purchase. I'm not trying to be rude just being honest.
At the end of the day you're going to do what you feel you want. We can't make or stop you from getting a device that you're obviously interested in
I only upgrade to Note 20 with Snapdragon 865. Mostly because I pretty hate the curved screen on Note 9. Too inconvenient
I'll get the Note 20, when i hit the lottery. The more people that buy it, the next Note will be $1500.00. If i said what i really think, i'd be barred from this forum.
koragg97 said:
The Note9 has:
No notch or hole display
Headphone jack
Led notification light
Iris scanner
Heart rate monitor
Bixby button (yes i say it as an advantage, I've made it a mute toggle via BxActions app)
Better rear camera design (personal opinion)
Hard press home button
More reliable rear placed physical fingerprint sensor
512GB storage (I'm comparing the 512/8 GB model as that's the best Note9 model)
Note20 Ultra has:
Ultrawide camera
S Pen air actions
No bixby button (can be advantage or disadvantage)
Wireless powershare
Ultra wide band chip which they advertised
5G
Longer software update support
Honestly the Note9 seems like a better device imo. The features it has are very useful in every day situations.
The only thing missing from it which would have been nice is the Ultra wide camera which isn't as big of a deal as the headphone jack or a nice looking uninterrupted display. Cameras on Note9 still take amazing pictures and video. Everyone who sees them is surprised how good they are. I just bought my 512 Exynos 5 months ago and am loving it more than any device that launched after it. Also don't care for software updates so that's that. It got Android 8.1 out of the box, got Android 9, got Android 10 with OneUI 2.0, got OneUI 2.1 and seems like it will get OneUI 2.5. I mentioned UI updates as those introduce more features than an OS update Basically you've almost got a Note20 Ultra in terms of software but you've also got more features which you'd actually use daily. And that Ocean Blue with the yellow S Pen looks awesome
PS: The regular Note20 is a joke and shouldn't even be considered.
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I am using a Note 9 since it was launched and I love it so much. A bit disappointed that I didn't get the 512gb variant because it cost about $300 more.
You can install a 512gb SD card. I won't touch the Note 20 now, because I refuse to get a bank loan for a cell phone. In about 18 to 24 months, I could get one for half the price.
grunt0300 said:
You can install a 512gb SD card. I won't touch the Note 20 now, because I refuse to get a bank loan for a cell phone. In about 18 to 24 months, I could get one for half the price.
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If you want it why not just do contract? Pay it out over time
grunt0300 said:
You can install a 512gb SD card. I won't touch the Note 20 now, because I refuse to get a bank loan for a cell phone. In about 18 to 24 months, I could get one for half the price.
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You don't have to wait 18 to 24 months, in about 1 year you can find them 1/2 price...smartphones depreciate quicker than you think.
KingVekxin said:
If you want it why not just do contract? Pay it out over time
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I don't do contracts. If I can't buy it outright, I don't buy it.
Note 4 was the last smartphone that made sense to buy/keep and, sadly, it was neglected by the majority of the community (the Exynos version, thankfully there have been a couple of developers doing their magic). I hate the curved, narrow screen of the sequels, among other things. At least my Notes 9 and 8 still have a headphone jack. I wouldn't "upgrade" to antyhing over 9 even if they paid me.
The 1-120Hz variable refresh rate and the laser auto focus are interesting.
Nirrik said:
The 1-120Hz variable refresh rate and the laser auto focus are interesting.
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If we have learned anything form the S20 Ultra is that the Laser Auto Focus on the Note 20 Ultra would probably be very glitchy. Samsung will continuous be releasing software updates to try and fix it.
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If you want it why not just do contract? Pay it out over time
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Because most Samsung Notes do not even last 2 years.
No I will not be upgrading.
1. Enoughf with dumping the crappy chips on us in India. If you want our business offer us the option of buying the CPU we want or upgrade Indias status to first world i.e. give us the same chip sets as USA and China get.
2. Missing HR and O2 sensors which I use every day to measure my BP, Tune my medication.
3. You never know with Samsung what bug will crop up when. The S20 screens with the crappy Indian market chip started turning green. All over India after the s/w update.
4. In a few months you will know what the bugs are and it will be cheaper.
5. These phones are getting to be more like walking around with a glass egg that will scratch, bend, break. Each new version seems to get more delicate and more fragile.
6. The tension of walking around with and using a 1000+ phone is just not worth it. I find walking around with a cheap phone so liberating.
My Fav Note was the 4 and the 9.
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Because most Samsung Notes do not even last 2 years.
No I will not be upgrading.
1. Enoughf with dumping the crappy chips on us in India. If you want our business offer us the option of buying the CPU we want or upgrade Indias status to first world i.e. give us the same chip sets as USA and China get.
2. Missing HR and O2 sensors which I use every day to measure my BP, Tune my medication.
3. You never know with Samsung what bug will crop up when. The S20 screens with the crappy Indian market chip started turning green. All over India after the s/w update.
4. In a few months you will know what the bugs are and it will be cheaper.
5. These phones are getting to be more like walking around with a glass egg that will scratch, bend, break. Each new version seems to get more delicate and more fragile.
6. The tension of walking around with and using a 1000+ phone is just not worth it. I find walking around with a cheap phone so liberating.
My Fav Note was the 4 and the 9.
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If I could've held on to my 4 for a bit longer I would've. It had root, custom roms, plus I had an extended battery on mine. So I honestly understand what you mean. These things are getting more expensive, yet hilariously less durable.
The entire world isn't treated equally when it comes to chipsets and that leads to mixed issues that typically might not get fixed. Honestly? Me understanding what Samsung is doing and the piss poor reasoning behind it has lead me to start looking into other OEM. Like nokia, motorola, one plus. Just someone else with a better Android experience without the bs price tag but with decent specs and a bomb camera.
I agree...
I love my note9 and i would want to continue with more longer as i can. I bought it in August 2018. The first day arrival. 512 GB purple colour...still click amazing photos...
It rocks. I was waiting eagerly for note20 1 TB phone...but sorry will not shift to Note20.
I'm keeping my Note 9
I've read a lot of reviews and YouTube videos hyping the Note 20 Ultra and I don't see a reason to upgrade. My Note 9 will be paid off this month and I couldn't be happier. After receiving the OneUI 2.1 update, I noticed excessive battery drain and couldn't get through a whole day anymore without having to charge it. I reset my phone last week, and in addition to enabling an Adaptive Power setting, I have been able to restore all day use of my phone. It's working better than before so for me, I see no reason to upgrade.
There's a reason the phone is overpriced, yet the carriers are offering discounts up to 50% to encourage you to upgrade. I have a conspiracy theory that there may be something wrong with the phone that will come up in the first 6 months of widespread consumer use. (Remember the Note 7?) I don't usually jump on the "I NEED to upgrade right away" bandwagon for that particular reason. It's a major marketing ploy by Samsung to generate interest from the "Gotta have it NOW!" crowd. I know what you're doing Samsung and I'm not falling for it. I'm still part of the unemployed masses, so I'll be spending my money on more worthwhile things like feeding and housing my family. I plan on rocking my 9 for as long as I possibly can.
Note 9 is quite a classic phone, I will replace a battery to continue using it!It has been confirmed that One Ui 2.5 will be updated!

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