Hi,
I'm about to order a new phone, and as a P10 user currently, I was wondering if the step to a P20 pro is worth it?
Has anyone made a similar step and what are your findings?
thank you
quiml said:
Hi,
I'm about to order a new phone, and as a P10 user currently, I was wondering if the step to a P20 pro is worth it?
Has anyone made a similar step and what are your findings?
thank you
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I came from a P9 and I found that it was a step up in the display quality, speakers, camera, battery life, and the overall speed. Was definitely worthwhile but of course a completely different price bracket. Just have to weigh up if you are going to use the camera more, if you are struggling with battery life etc.
For me the camera was the main one, as I have a 2.5 year old so have been taking lots of photos and videos. Something am sure he will appreciate in 15 years time.
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Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
arceuss said:
Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
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I have purchased my Nokia 8 this March. Other than the camera, the phone has a superb quality and performance. I have found that the noise on the photo taken from Nokia 8 is rather high, and focusing on images take a little bit longer, so it is quite hard to take a quick snap if you wish to. However, such weakness can be recovered if you have installed the Google camera from Pixel. Other than that, it is a superb phone with good quality and fast update.
iamwyim said:
I have purchased my Nokia 8 this March. Other than the camera, the phone has a superb quality and performance. I have found that the noise on the photo taken from Nokia 8 is rather high, and focusing on images take a little bit longer, so it is quite hard to take a quick snap if you wish to. However, such weakness can be recovered if you have installed the Google camera from Pixel. Other than that, it is a superb phone with good quality and fast update.
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Thanks, What about battery life? And how is Carl Ziess compared to other cameras
arceuss said:
Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
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IT depends on the country where you live, but in most places you can get a Sony Xperia xz1 or honor v10 for the same price. Both with better standby battery life and unlockable bootloaders. The cameras of those phones are also a bit better.
Everything is great here , even the camera if you use google camera you will get very nice pictures , but the only thing i dont like on this device is the design, I like the new screen aspect ratio
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Thanks, What about battery life? And how is Carl Ziess compared to other cameras
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To be honest, the camera is not as good as the flagship phone available in nowadays (or even at the time it released). The noise on the photo is visible at night time (sometimes even in day time). I can only say that the camera is just about average compare with the mid-tier phone.
The battery life is okay to me, but I always turn on the battery saved mode and turn off the Glance.
I hope this answers might help you to make up your decision.
I bought mine a few weeks ago and have been loving it since. I came froma Moto Z Play so I had a lot to consider before buying. First, battery life, no Snapdragon 8xx can come close to the Snapdragon 6xx series. And also stock Android experience is the best experience for me. So I'm left with Honor View 10, Nokia 8, or wait for Nokia 7 Plus.
Nokia 7 Plus will have a great battery life nut has gorilla glass 3 and no OIS.
Honor View 10 has better camera and battery life but has EMUI and a Kirin processor (even though it's a at Snapdragon 8xx level). However it does support project Treble, so if you wanna root around it should be easier.
The Nokia 8, which is good but has subpar camera and subpar battery life. But considering how small the battery is and how powerful the processor is, it does have a better battery life but would've been better if Nokia added more. And camera is fine at least better than my previous phone as I just needed some decent photo. Google Pixel camera app made it waaaaaayyyyy better.
I hope it helps you decide.
I find the battery life superb, most days i have over 70% left with moderate use or 40%'ish with heavy use without WiFi using data only.
Here in Chile it's price is way affordable than other flagships from Samsung, Sony, Motorola, LG, etc. So, having that in consideration, plus it's hardware and software is the best deal for what you get.
Battery life is great
Screen quality and brightness in sunlight also great
Sound i find it really good
Camera is good too, maybe it isn't way good at night as other flagships with lower apertures, but it gives really decent pictures. Video is good also, very good quality and stabilization is decent enough. And it's surround recording sistem is really nice.
So hardware wise is one of the best options you can get here for it's price. It's a Nokia so you would expect a sturdy phone, almost unbreakable lol.
In software you get the latest updates really quickly.
Maybe it doesn't have unlockable bootloader easily as other phones with Snapdragon SoCs, but having cutting edge updates almost same as Google pixel devices I would say maybe it's not necessary to have much development. Things I've noticed over the years is that most developments that triumphs are those that make ROMs as stock as possible.
So if you like stock Android go for it I don't thing you'll get disappointed. But if you are a camera maniatic , maybe you should consider some other device
I need a new phone for my mum. I'm looking for something with a decent camera, performance and battery life with no known issues for around £300. The Nokia 8 seems to check these boxes but I'd love to hear from some Nokia 8 users to confirm/deny this? What's low light camera performance like with the latest update? Thanks
Why not the Nokia 6 2018 and still get a decent phone and save a considerable chunk of money.
Low light shots with the stock app is crap on the 8.
Agree, Nokia 8 has been out for more than 8 months now? There's a little hardware refresh recently - Nokia 8 Sirocco, the camera lens specs is of older design, they're having problem updating the camera app at the moment, furthermore it is not an Android One/Project Treble, which means update of the device will be very limited in the future?
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It doesn't have a decent camera.
FlexiPack said:
I need a new phone for my mum. I'm looking for something with a decent camera, performance and battery life with no known issues for around £300. The Nokia 8 seems to check these boxes but I'd love to hear from some Nokia 8 users to confirm/deny this? What's low light camera performance like with the latest update? Thanks
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I recently helped my mum upgrade to a Nokia 5 (model choice was made based on price and availability). She has said she is finding quite easy to use and enjoys that her solitaire game looks alot clearer on the new screen (haven't quite managed to get her into Marvel Strike Force just yet).
My point being that in general any android phone running near stock android will be fine for a non-techy person.
So if your budget extends to include the Nokia 8, go for it.
But at the same time, if she isn't going to leverage all the features that contribute to the cost of a Nokia 8 you might as well pick her up of the cheaper ones and use the difference to grab things like extended warranties and some cases/screen protectors etc.
Thank you for all your input. I decided to go ahead and get mum the Nokia 8 and I'm happy to say she's delighted with it!
Hi there I want to know is it worth buying compared to the huawei p10?
Billabomb75 said:
Hi there I want to know is it worth buying compared to the huawei p10?
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The Nokia 8 is a pretty decent all rounder phone. Probably the only downside to the P10 is the camera quality. Decent sensor but post processing and camera software was lacking. The auto focus isn't that reliable and low light performance will suffer. And the camera software lacked Pro mode which the P10 should have currently. And the camera app was buggy from time yo time. But HMD is going to update the camera framework and bringing Pro mode to the 8. So probably you may see some improvements by then.
Don't get me wrong. The camera is good for what it is. I got really decent shots in bright lighting conditions. Only the camera software isn't really that reliable.
I did compare my phone side by side with a Huawei P9(Bright light conditions). Apart from the post processing issues on the Nokia 8, I found the camera looked abit better compared to the P9(Not sure about the P10 though).
I'm speaking this from my own experience owning the phone for a few months. I take a lot of photos with my phone, so the camera was one important aspect to me along with battery life and performance. Battery life is what you'll usually get for something around 3000mAH. I got around 4-6 hour screen on time from a full charge. But the phone can last you the whole day. Snapdragon 835 too. So performance overall was good.
If you want something with better battery life for the similar amount of price, go for the Huawei Mate 10 instead since that has a 4000mAH battery.
Software updates so far has been consistent. Got security updates every month and its confirmed to get Android P. Hopefully they'll keep it that way until the phone reaches the end of its life.
Overall, I'm quite happy with my phone. So definitely worth checking it out. Especially if you prefer something with near stock Android too.
Germ2501 said:
The Nokia 8 is a pretty decent all rounder phone. Probably the only downside to the P10 is the camera quality. Decent sensor but post processing and camera software was lacking. The auto focus isn't that reliable and low light performance will suffer. And the camera software lacked Pro mode which the P10 should have currently. And the camera app was buggy from time yo time. But HMD is going to update the camera framework and bringing Pro mode to the 8. So probably you may see some improvements by then.
Don't get me wrong. The camera is good for what it is. I got really decent shots in bright lighting conditions. Only the camera software isn't really that reliable.
I did compare my phone side by side with a Huawei P9(Bright light conditions). Apart from the post processing issues on the Nokia 8, I found the camera looked abit better compared to the P9(Not sure about the P10 though).
I'm speaking this from my own experience owning the phone for a few months. I take a lot of photos with my phone, so the camera was one important aspect to me along with battery life and performance. Battery life is what you'll usually get for something around 3000mAH. I got around 4-6 hour screen on time from a full charge. But the phone can last you the whole day. Snapdragon 835 too. So performance overall was good.
If you want something with better battery life for the similar amount of price, go for the Huawei Mate 10 instead since that has a 4000mAH battery.
Software updates so far has been consistent. Got security updates every month and its confirmed to get Android P. Hopefully they'll keep it that way until the phone reaches the end of its life.
Overall, I'm quite happy with my phone. So definitely worth checking it out. Especially if you prefer something with near stock Android too.
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Thanks for replying I'm on a contract and sadly the isp doesnt have the huawei mate 10 cause I looked at that aswell but the camera im not to worry about as long as I can take photos its fine.
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Hi there I want to know is it worth buying compared to the huawei p10?
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Huawei p10 supports bootloader unlock, so you can root the Huawei.
Nokia does not.
Did Huawei already kinda give up on the P20 Pro? I know that there's is coming the EMUI 10, but new features? or features that other phones are getting? The Mate 20 has announced some new stuff like moon mode, DC dimming, ultra-low latency Bluetooth (maybe here there is a hardware difference), the Nova 4 is also getting front camera night mode. Also the camera on the P20 Pro still as a lot to improve especially on the video and front camera. I just kinda feel like they already letting go a last year flagship just like that.
Low latency bluetooth might be because of the bluetooth 5 thing. Guess who's switching if they abandon the phone in the same way they did 2 years ago.
Is a shame that an 800+€ flagship is just kinda 'forgot' already just like that because there are others flagship to push out to consumers, this phone is great and still can be better but yeah f**k consumers.
We get every update possible up to emui 10. Who is forgotten??
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We get every update possible up to emui 10. Who is forgotten??
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Some of the features that the mate 20 and p30 have are mostly hardware-related. The 30x zoom could had been bought to our phone, same goes for dimming, ar lens and more stuff.
The Restless Soul said:
Some of the features that the mate 20 and p30 have are mostly hardware-related. The 30x zoom could had been bought to our phone, same goes for dimming, ar lens and more stuff.
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This.. Also when is Huawei gonna finally solve the video focus jitters or whatever is?
Hate to be devils advocate here but if they put all there shiney new tricks on last year's phone what would be the point in the p30, it's a business decision.
Sicks but it's how phones are sold, I think given the p20 is nearly 2 now it's doing well with updates.
Business is business until the customers do a massive refund and move on to something else
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Business is business until the customers do a massive refund and move on to something else
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Something that almost never happens in real life.
The successful company must really fail on many fronts to make majority of their customers go. It must be combination of really disappointing product and terrible financial condition of this company. The closest example that comes to my mind is htc drastically losing its market share in 2011. Their models like Sensation or Incredible S had hardware defects and weren't match for Galaxy S II.
However an average user won't abandon Huawei because they don't want to make its really good p20 pro look (softwarewise) like p30 pro. Every vendor does that.
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Something that almost never happens in real life.
The successful company must really fail on many fronts to make majority of their customers go. It must be combination of really disappointing product and terrible financial condition of this company. The closest example that comes to my mind is htc drastically losing its market share in 2011. Their models like Sensation or Incredible S had hardware defects and weren't match for Galaxy S II.
However an average user won't abandon Huawei because they don't want to make its really good p20 pro look (softwarewise) like p30 pro. Every vendor does that.
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I don't wanna my P20 Pro to look like the p30 pro or all the shiny new stuff that is hardware related (impossible of course) but it would be cool to have a last year flagship to record a video without is "focus jumping around" every few seconds and stuff like that that ruin the video and can be improved.
Does feel like we're being left behind tbh.
Emui 10 has been mentioned but no time line specifically. Video stabilization has actually got worse on 9.1 Vs 8.1 on 1080p 30fps
Battery had got worse too.
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Does feel like we're being left behind tbh.
Emui 10 has been mentioned but no time line specifically. Video stabilization has actually got worse on 9.1 Vs 8.1 on 1080p 30fps
Battery had got worse too.
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This... It's a 800€ plus flagship from last year, the mate 20 will get the emui 10 fast, like every other update til now
Battery performance decreases over time. It's normal for this type batteries. I don't see much difference between 8.1 and 9.1.
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Battery performance decreases over time. It's normal for this type batteries. I don't see much difference between 8.1 and 9.1.
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There is a difference, it's not normal battery degredation, this is a specific drop between bases.
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There is a difference, it's not normal battery degredation, this is a specific drop between bases.
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It's not like i don't believe you. I've just haven't noticed one yet on my device. My battery time us pretty much the same.
My battery lasts just a bit less than on emui 9.0
The phone feels a little snappier, that's come with some drawback, it can't be just the new file system
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It's not like i don't believe you. I've just haven't noticed one yet on my device. My battery time us pretty much the same.
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Were you used to getting 9-10 hours SOT consistently on your P20 Pro on 8.1? And you're still getting that on 9.1 ?
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Were you used to getting 9-10 hours SOT consistently on your P20 Pro on 8.1? And you're still getting that on 9.1 ?
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I was getting 7-9 hours SOT on 8.1 and now I am easiliy getting more than 7.
In order to determine whether it's normal battery degradation (just an example: my old iphone's battery lost 8% of its capacity over a year) or result of update to 9.1 I would have to downgrade to 8.1 and test which I am not really willing to do.
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I was getting 7-9 hours SOT on 8.1 and now I am easiliy getting more than 7.
In order to determine whether it's normal battery degradation (just an example: my old iphone's battery lost 8% of its capacity over a year) or result of update to 9.1 I would have to downgrade to 8.1 and test which I am not really willing to do.
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Ok so that's a pretty obvious drop?
I know personally that the phone is less efficient with 9.1, it is what it is.
You just said yourself that you've noticed no drop yet you've just gone from 7-9 to 7 ?
I honestly do like the Mate 20 lite. My only drawback is how terrible the camera is.
Has anyone been able to improve this situation or have a 3rd party app that will improve the cameras app?
I have Mate 20 lite LX3 and I am running EMUI 9.1.0.235
EDIT: After extensive research, I have found that the app "OPEN Camera" which is open source, is the best remedy that can fix the over saturation on all Huawei phones.
Are you sure your unit is not defective? My photos seem to look quite good, like, really good (I only don't like the excessive sharpness). Other than that, and despite having an iPhone 6 before, I say the quality is excellent. SNE-LX1 with 8.2.0.131 here (Pie for me has a huge battery drain).
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Are you sure your unit is not defective? My photos seem to look quite good, like, really good (I only don't like the excessive sharpness). Other than that, and despite having an iPhone 6 before, I say the quality is excellent. SNE-LX1 with 8.2.0.131 here (Pie for me has a huge battery drain).
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I have honestly thought about it being a defective unit.
I have also read a few reviews online where the camera is over saturated and the lighting is too much, which is the issue that I am having, my pictures even come out a bit grainy and or pixelated.
Other than that I am really happy with my Mate 20 lite. I charge my phone every 2 days and I love the battery on mine.
I am considering swapping it for another one since I Still have my warranty.
Have you tried disable the AI function on the camera? That is the main cause for oversaturation in some pictures. Otherwise the Mate 20 Lite takes great pictures with the stock camera app...
DJPRMF said:
Have you tried disable the AI function on the camera? That is the main cause for oversaturation in some pictures. Otherwise the Mate 20 Lite takes great pictures with the stock camera app...
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Yes I have. It works a bit and that is what leads me to believe that i have a defective unit.
Got my New Mate 20 replacement from my warranty!
I am happy to say that I picked up my new Mate 20 lite unit after reporting it as a defective unit.
The camera is a lot better! And the unit is not getting hot!
Yayy