Receive Security Updates Without Sim Card - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

I got a nice used Note 8 for a good price (AT&T variant running 8.0.0) that I'm using on wifi only since it's not activated and I have no plans to do so (since the Note 9 is due next month).
I downloaded the July security updates from APK Mirror, but it says app not installed when I try to install them. Is it possible to get it installed through an apk?

Kamau54 said:
I got a nice used Note 8 for a good price (AT&T variant running 8.0.0) that I'm using on wifi only since it's not activated and I have no plans to do so (since the Note 9 is due next month).
I downloaded the July security updates from APK Mirror, but it says app not installed when I try to install them. Is it possible to get it installed through an apk?
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Download thru sammobile, install it with odin

You should still be able to receive OS updates via OTA despite the fact that your device is not activated and has no SIM card in it. As OS updates for mobile devices aren't dependent on those.

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How to switch to correct update tree (to get OTA updates)?

(Please don't ask me to search the forum--that isn't working right now, it just gives an error.)
Several months ago, I bought a Nexus 6 phone, used from eBay. I have been using it with an AT&T SIM card for several months. However, it is stuck on build MOB30I and patch level "May 1, 2016". I thought that AT&T was simply months behind on updates, but today I learned the real problem: AT&T uses the MMB update tree, whereas my phone is (for some reason) on the MOB update tree. Apparently:
- My phone will not accept AT&T's MMB updates because the phone is on a different update tree
- My phone will not accept MOB updates (from Project Fi or Sprint or whomever) because an AT&T SIM card has been installed.
I tried removing the AT&T SIM card and checking for an update, but got nothing.
How do I switch to an update tree that will actually give me updates? I'd rather not install adb and sideload. In fact, rather than do that, I would instead enroll in the Android Beta program, install Android 7.0 beta, and let Google itself update me to Android 7.0 final when the time comes.
lgmayka said:
(Please don't ask me to search the forum--that isn't working right now, it just gives an error.)
Several months ago, I bought a Nexus 6 phone, used from eBay. I have been using it with an AT&T SIM card for several months. However, it is stuck on build MOB30I and patch level "May 1, 2016". I thought that AT&T was simply months behind on updates, but today I learned the real problem: AT&T uses the MMB update tree, whereas my phone is (for some reason) on the MOB update tree. Apparently:
- My phone will not accept AT&T's MMB updates because the phone is on a different update tree
- My phone will not accept MOB updates (from Project Fi or Sprint or whomever) because an AT&T SIM card has been installed.
I tried removing the AT&T SIM card and checking for an update, but got nothing.
How do I switch to an update tree that will actually give me updates? I'd rather not install adb and sideload. In fact, rather than do that, I would instead enroll in the Android Beta program, install Android 7.0 beta, and let Google itself update me to Android 7.0 final when the time comes.
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Any reason not to use a Google Factory image? It looks like MMB29V is the most recent.
According to the instructions, installing a "Google Factory Image" would be a lot of risky work, and would erase all my data and apps. I was hoping for something simpler and safer. As I mentioned, joining the Android Beta program actually seems to be the easiest solution, if the current beta (NPD30G) is stable enough.
Frankly, I am surprised that Google/Motorola/AT&T (or any cell phone designer/manufacturer/carrier) allows a working cell phone to get into this state where the phone refuses to accept security updates.
For the Nexūs 6, the beta is quite stable (I didn't update my daily driver until I was sure it was stable on my other devices). You should be fine and back on track with NPD90G.
That's half the fun of owning a Nexus, not waiting for updates. Dl the factory image, unzip it and the zip file inside and flash the system. IMG only and you'll lose nothing but root. If, of course, you are rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/ You may give it a try..... prerooted lite stock rom.
lgmayka said:
According to the instructions, installing a "Google Factory Image" would be a lot of risky work, and would erase all my data and apps. I was hoping for something simpler and safer.
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As already suggested, just install the system image. The simplest way to do that is via fastboot. Nothing gets erased unless you flash the userdata.img. Using Google's script to flash everything would overwrite the userdata partition.
The version you are on (MMB) is released to provide updates without updating the radio. The MOB release is the same as the equivalent MMB plus the package includes the updated radio. This is a requirement of the carriers who want to approve the radio before it's released.
You will be unable to take any *incremental* OTA if there is any differential between what's on your system partition and what the OTA is expecting. You can not hop over incremental OTA updates. They must be sequentially applied. Therefore, the safest way to get to a known state is with a factory image.
If fastbooting a factory image is unacceptably risky, then maybe an eBay phone wasn't a great choice.
Or, as you say, you go straight to N. If the beta program is still available now that N is released.
stevemw said:
For the Nexūs 6, the beta is quite stable (I didn't update my daily driver until I was sure it was stable on my other devices). You should be fine and back on track with NPD90G.
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I decided to do this. NPD90G is running well enough for me, and before long Google will release Android 7.0 Final.

T-Mobile Nexus 6 - 6.0.1 - Security Updates

My T-Mobile Nexus 6 still has 6.0.1 and I am not looking to upgrade to Nougat 7.xxx. What I am trying to do is install the security updates. The last OTA was from November 5, 2016. Why is T-Mobile not sending these out? Do I have to root my phone to download and install? Help would be appreciated. Thanks Dan
Strange. I had a 6.0.1 February security update from T-mobile. I got the 7.0 update with the March patch earlier this month, which was probably the end of the 6.0.1 patches. You can sideload the February patch from the OTA site, but don't expect any more.
Ota 7.1.1 havoc with Radios.
I finally attempted to sideload 7.1.1 N6F26U - cell data has been horrible. I am on T-Mobile. What 7.0 or 6.0.1 I think has the most security packages that I should install. BTW N6F26U broke Android Pay which makes me sad. Thanks in Advance.
What I wound up doing was go to the T-Mobile page and established the official latest factory image was 6.0.1 MMB29K - installed that using Wugfresh. After installing and logging into WiFi and my Gmail account was prompted to install 7.0.0 NBD92G - this installed fine and then after installing a couple of security updates (thru April 2017) was able to Re-Lock my Bootloader (I wanted Android Pay to accept my credit cards). Data reception is still degraded significantly, am now thinking there is a problem with the tower.
voyageurs60 said:
Data reception is still degraded significantly, am now thinking there is a problem with the tower.
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Sorry, I haven't read through this thread. It's likely, in doing your updates, the modern (radio) software was updated as well. The modems are OS version independent and you may now have one that doesn't work as well for you as your original one did. You may not know which one you started with, but you could just try several to see if any improve the situation for you. Here are flashable zips of many of the modems.
You might also double check your APN settings against TMO website. I use Sprint, so no APNS, thus I can't really give you a step thru. If you search though, it's not an uncommon discussion.

October OTA Update 4BQJ2 is out

Just got my OTA update notification. Update went smoothly (sorry, forgot to check file size before updating. Confirmed BlueBorne vulnerability is fixed.
Not sure if this is unique to me, but post-update, my phone is now telling me my SD card is unsupported and asking me if I want to format. Really hoping to avoid backing up a 200GB card, formatting and restoring this weekend. Not sure if anyone else is having this issue too or if just my luck to have to deal with, but just a warning out there to those who may decide they want to unmount their SD cards before updating.
FWIW, my device seems to be running just a bit smoother after a day of use. No noticeable change in battery life. Pleased with the update so far.
quick newbie question, I have the G935A , fully stocked, but using it on a Canadian network, I was told I won't get the update via OTA so I installed Smart Switch, but it also says my device is up to date which has the May security patch installed (that's what it came with when I bought it last month). Any idea where I can find just the OTA patch and update the phone ?
bestjsg said:
quick newbie question, I have the G935A , fully stocked, but using it on a Canadian network, I was told I won't get the update via OTA so I installed Smart Switch, but it also says my device is up to date which has the May security patch installed (that's what it came with when I bought it last month). Any idea where I can find just the OTA patch and update the phone ?
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If you aren't running on an AT&T network, you might seriously consider switching to the U firmware. Of course, Samsung conveniently forgets the U firmware exists too, so that might not gain you a whole lot at the moment.
I have the U firmware and I've been checking for updates, but nothing (I'm on the August security patch). Is there a way to force the update or use Odin or side load it? My phone was originally built for the Sprint network, then the previous owner flashed it to work on AT&T. I was not able to get any updates (was stuck on the May security patch). I used Odin to put the U firmware on it and then got 3 security patch updates after that.
caferacer73 said:
I have the U firmware and I've been checking for updates, but nothing (I'm on the August security patch). Is there a way to force the update or use Odin or side load it? My phone was originally built for the Sprint network, then the previous owner flashed it to work on AT&T. I was not able to get any updates (was stuck on the May security patch). I used Odin to put the U firmware on it and then got 3 security patch updates after that.
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The U firmware always lags the carrier firmware. August is sadly the current date for the unlocked devices for now.
All I had to do was be patient. I got the newest update (4BQJ5 - November security patch) this morning.

New Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions

Just received a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 8 from sprint. Have not turned it on yet. How can I bypass hands free activation, use package disabler pro (Samsung) 15.0 to stop system updates, find out the current firmware version and if required bootloader version, SamFail and root. Would this be possible?
enzeden said:
Just received a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 8 from sprint. Have not turned it on yet. How can I bypass hands free activation, use package disabler pro (Samsung) 15.0 to stop system updates, find out the current firmware version and if required bootloader version, SamFail and root. Would this be possible?
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Well, I figured removing the SIM would get me in to determine firmware and bootloader versions.
Android 7.1.1
N950USQU2BQJB
Stopped automatic system updates in system updates and in developer options.
Not activating yet. Powered off and continuing research.
enzeden said:
Well, I figured removing the SIM would get me in to determine firmware and bootloader versions.
Android 7.1.1
N950USQU2BQJB
Stopped automatic system updates in system updates and in developer options.
Not activating yet. Powered off and continuing research.
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Staying on N950USQU2BQJB Android 7.1.1. This https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/how-to/hotspot-bypass-nougat-ok-t3563446 is still working. Also Samsung Package Disabler is working.

Samsung S10 AT&T (G973U) not getting updates since 1 August, 2019 Security Patch

Hey guys.
I bought my phone from AT&T retail shop in the US last year. But unfortunately I had to move back to my home country. Ever since the August 2019 Security Patch, I have yet to get any update. The AT&T website indicates that my phone is due to get an update in December 2019 but I have yet to get it.
Is there a way I can resolve this. Whenever I check for updates, it indicates that my phone is up to date. This happens also when I use Smart Switch application.
Samsung S10, Snapdragon 855
Model: G973U
Baseband Version: G973USQS2ASGK
Thanks in advance.
August? You are like 4 or 5 updates behind! Android 10 is out for the S10 now. You're probably going to have to flash the latest firmware using the patched version of Odin floating around the forum here.
StoneyJSG said:
August? You are like 4 or 5 updates behind! Android 10 is out for the S10 now. You're probably going to have to flash the latest firmware using the patched version of Odin floating around the forum here.
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Unfortunately since August. But thank you for this insight..I have been searching for days on what I should do. Though I would like to know when I do flash using Odin, will I start getting updates or do I need to update manually every time.
Also if there is any other way of solving this problem without having to flash my phone I am willing to give it a shot.
Flash whenever you want, but it will reset your phone unless CSC_home is used. You might get updates after flashing with Odin as long as your SIM card matches the firmware (i.e. T-mobile firmware and SIM), but then again you might be stuck using Odin to update every time.

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