Hey guys,
I just got my Mate 10 pro. For safety reasons, I bought UAG cover for the phone. However, I am curious, if I really need a screen protector. I don't work at rough places, but I just don't want any scratch on the screen. What do you guys think?
Yes u need. The screen gets very easy small scratches from being in your pockets.
wooley4766 said:
Yes u need. The screen gets very easy small scratches from being in your pockets.
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Thanks! I am confused between Spigen nano and glass protector.
YES!
A tiny bit of sand can scratch Gorilla Glass. And that's just one thing. There is nothing worse than a scratched screen - it ruins the experience (for me) for years, as long as you have the device. With a protector (either "hydrogel" or "tempered glass"), you just replace it and call it a day. Let alone drops by the way. One drop on an uneven surface and even in a case, it will break.
You can pick two kinds.
GLASS.
- Nilkin: Does not extend to full side, but since it's 0.3mm thicc (or so), it will still protect the screen from everything. Good experience from people, I also bought one, it's ok.
DO NOT BUY eBay screen protectors. They extend full, and look nice. BUT, thanks to the design of our device, they kinda lift off around the edges, and require you to hard press to get your fingers/taps registered. It's a pain. It's annoying too.
Hydrogel.
It's kind of a plastic layer kind of thing, but can be stretched, squeezed to fit all along the edges. This gives a better look (cannot even see it). Feel wise I believe it's nice, not too bad. Only bad thing about it is that it's well, not glass. So if you drop the phone on a sharp edge, it might just transfer the force and break the screen/digitizer.
Keep in mind, CASE MATTERS A LOT. A good case will reduce drops by.. I don't know.. 99%?
Seriously, without a case the phone is a soapbar. And in a bad case too, there is barely any grip. Get a good one and you are set for life.
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YES!
A tiny bit of sand can scratch Gorilla Glass. And that's just one thing. There is nothing worse than a scratched screen - it ruins the experience (for me) for years, as long as you have the device. With a protector (either "hydrogel" or "tempered glass"), you just replace it and call it a day. Let alone drops by the way. One drop on an uneven surface and even in a case, it will break.
You can pick two kinds.
GLASS.
- Nilkin: Does not extend to full side, but since it's 0.3mm thicc (or so), it will still protect the screen from everything. Good experience from people, I also bought one, it's ok.
DO NOT BUY eBay screen protectors. They extend full, and look nice. BUT, thanks to the design of our device, they kinda lift off around the edges, and require you to hard press to get your fingers/taps registered. It's a pain. It's annoying too.
Hydrogel.
It's kind of a plastic layer kind of thing, but can be stretched, squeezed to fit all along the edges. This gives a better look (cannot even see it). Feel wise I believe it's nice, not too bad. Only bad thing about it is that it's well, not glass. So if you drop the phone on a sharp edge, it might just transfer the force and break the screen/digitizer.
Keep in mind, CASE MATTERS A LOT. A good case will reduce drops by.. I don't know.. 99%?
Seriously, without a case the phone is a soapbar. And in a bad case too, there is barely any grip. Get a good one and you are set for life.
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That was a detailed response. Thank you!
What is your opinion on Spigen Nano Liquid?
I have not tried it... yet. In my opinion, it's just an extra layer. But no protection.
This review(er) makes sense: https://youtu.be/ZeHeHLjCAQE?t=148
You add a new layer, that gets scratched... and is attached to the screen. LOL. I guess it would have been better if Spigen had a remover.
Is it useless? No! I think the Liquid Glass is perfect for phones like Huawei P20 Pro, where Huawei went ultra cheap, and just used a crappy screen protection. I would still add a glass on top (because that's the only thing protecting from impacts, etc), but hey, if anything were to happen, it would provide better protection. But, our Mate 10? It has Gorilla Glass 3. (which is more resistant than Glass 5.)
The Hydrogel thing is like a bit flexible plastic. Kinda rubbery. So I suspect that also takes off a bit of force if my phone's screen were to hit something.
But, tempered glass all the way. If you cannot find one that covers just right, works just good, then just go hydrogel IMO.
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I have not tried it... yet. In my opinion, it's just an extra layer. But no protection.
This review(er) makes sense: https://youtu.be/ZeHeHLjCAQE?t=148
You add a new layer, that gets scratched... and is attached to the screen. LOL. I guess it would have been better if Spigen had a remover.
Is it useless? No! I think the Liquid Glass is perfect for phones like Huawei P20 Pro, where Huawei went ultra cheap, and just used a crappy screen protection. I would still add a glass on top (because that's the only thing protecting from impacts, etc), but hey, if anything were to happen, it would provide better protection. But, our Mate 10? It has Gorilla Glass 3. (which is more resistant than Glass 5.)
The Hydrogel thing is like a bit flexible plastic. Kinda rubbery. So I suspect that also takes off a bit of force if my phone's screen were to hit something.
But, tempered glass all the way. If you cannot find one that covers just right, works just good, then just go hydrogel IMO.
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Thanks!
I have been looking been to see which one looks better, and I found Poetic. Maybe, I order this one.
https://www.poeticcases.com/products/screen-protector-2017-huawei-mate-10-pro
I tried some Glas protectors they were all trash dur to the rounded edges and most sont work with cases. i have used normal plastic like in the old days and i am very happy. They scratch kinda easy but i paid like 4 bucks for 5 protectors.
I will ask Huawei on Live chat. Let see what they recommend.
Thanks!
This is the screen protector recommended to me by Huawei representative while having a live chat.
https://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Prote...96&sr=8-8&keywords=Mate+10+Pro+tempered+glass
Well, finally I tried the Nilkin glass protector. I would rate it 3/5.
- Feels great.
- Good, but average package. I mean what do we expect anyway?
- No edge-to-edge coverage, as I said that would be hard to pull, so there is a gap on each side.
- I have a visible halo on edge.
Overall? I would go hydrogel. Seriously.
- Buy 2-3 pieces to start with. Chances are good it will feel weird at first. You could experiment with the cheapest ebay ones, they feel the same. Basically you apply, and you can squeeze out all the bubbles, dirt, and also stretch it to all the corners. It gives a 100% cover.
- It can be scratched, it's faaar from the 9H hardness of tempered glass. But who cares? Rip it off, put a new one on it. Boom. I have used mine for about 3 months and only now I had a large scratch/damage on the top-right of the hydrogel thing. That's it.
Case wise I bought so many... but my favorite is the noname, ebay case called iPaky. It has a full transparent back, yet, has a very good hold to it. Not too bulky, not too heavy. It's seriously a superb case IMO. I tried many, this one is my favorite. Especially because it shows off the purple/golden/whatever color of the phone, which I like, as this is the first non-pitch-black phone I own.
You can just search "ipaky mate 10 pro" on ebay. Or "mate 10" whichever you have.
noman.rasheed said:
Hey guys,
I just got my Mate 10 pro. For safety reasons, I bought UAG cover for the phone. However, I am curious, if I really need a screen protector. I don't work at rough places, but I just don't want any scratch on the screen. What do you guys think?
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I really wish they make the next gen Mate with a perfectly flat screen with at least 2mm after the screen end still flat so you can really put a full screen glass/film protector with no issues.
Currently I'm using my mate 10 with no screen protector at all because I hate them on not completely covering screen on its width.
My 1st phone in years without a screen protector.
When I get the 1st scratch on my Mate 10 screen, I'll put a protector. 0 scratches so far, and it is all about luck (a single grain of sand can ruin it all).
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I really wish they make the next gen Mate with a perfectly flat screen with at least 2mm after the screen end still flat so you can really put a full screen glass/film protector with no issues.
Currently I'm using my mate 10 with no screen protector at all because I hate them on not completely covering screen on its width.
My 1st phone in years without a screen protector.
When I get the 1st scratch on my Mate 10 screen, I'll put a protector. 0 scratches so far, and it is all about luck (a single grain of sand can ruin it all).
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Thank you! I just ordered SaharaCase tempered glass for mate 10 pro. I will post the reviews here too. Although I was recommended for IQ Shield by Huawei, but I didn't like it.
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I have tried many accessories and I can say that most of the screen protectors suck. in my experience the best glass screen protector is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351988284417?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT - this screen protector is absolutely amazing and its only drawback is the size, it doesn't cover the sides well enough.
As for the best case my award goes to http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351988284417?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT - It is thin, it feels great, the cutouts are perfect and the best part is what they have done with the vol/power buttons. they didnt make cut outs instead they are covered in silicon which makes it much much much easier to hit those buttons. compared to nillkin this outperforms it since it covers more phone space, has more accessible buttons, has a slightly bigger screen lip (the lip doesn't portrude much) and is cheaper.
I hope I have helped, if you have any questions please ask.
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I have tried many accessories and I can say that most of the screen protectors suck. in my experience the best glass screen protector is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351988284417?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT - this screen protector is absolutely amazing and its only drawback is the size, it doesn't cover the sides well enough.
As for the best case my award goes to http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351988284417?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT - It is thin, it feels great, the cutouts are perfect and the best part is what they have done with the vol/power buttons. they didnt make cut outs instead they are covered in silicon which makes it much much much easier to hit those buttons. compared to nillkin this outperforms it since it covers more phone space, has more accessible buttons, has a slightly bigger screen lip (the lip doesn't portrude much) and is cheaper.
I hope I have helped, if you have any questions please ask.
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Pls relink your second link because copy of first link , thx
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Pls relink your second link because copy of first link , thx
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my bad here it is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262987701...49&var=561994911545&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Can you post a photo with your tempered glass on the phone?
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Can you post a photo with your tempered glass on the phone?
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I would but I peeled it off to try other protectors and now I'm using a different one that covers more screen but has bubbles all around it. I would buy the old one again but it'll be a waste to just throw this one away even if the bubbles annoy me. The screen protector that I recommended here is great, doesn't leave any bubbles and feels amazing. Only problem is that it leaves 0.3cm out on each side which isn't too bad but it does leave a lot exposed. It's the best one you could buy and works great with the case that I also recommended. The review on the link was left by me by the way. I hope I helped.
check this out, i tried it and is pretty good, it fully covers the phones face. But gotta install it well unlike me
http://www.gearbest.com/screen-protectors/pp_519513.html
I finally found a screen protector that works for me. It's fully transparent (no adaptive brightness issue) and it does cover the left and right sides of the screen. There is a small 3mm gap on the top/bottom edges but its not annoying. also I had to use the included oil to remove the halo all around the edges. Here's the link:
Tempered Glass For XIAOMI MI5S Plus Screen Protector Anti Scratch Phone Protector For Glass XIAOMI Mi 5S Plus Protector Flim
http://s.aliexpress.com/QFjeaYvE
(from AliExpress Android)
myogui said:
I finally found a screen protector that works for me. It's fully transparent (no adaptive brightness issue) and it does cover the left and right sides of the screen. There is a small 3mm gap on the top/bottom edges but its not annoying. also I had to use the included oil to remove the halo all around the edges. Here's the link:
Tempered Glass For XIAOMI MI5S Plus Screen Protector Anti Scratch Phone Protector For Glass XIAOMI Mi 5S Plus Protector Flim
http://s.aliexpress.com/QFjeaYvE
(from AliExpress Android)
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This looks absolutely fantastic, cafele seems to be a good brand seeing as how they make such quality cases and screen protectors. I wonder if they sell the gel separately? Also what is the quality of the screen protector like? Is it oleophobic? If the screen protector isn't good then I would like to buy the gel separately and use it on a nilkin protector. Thank you for sharing this!
How do you use the oil to remove the halo?
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I would but I peeled it off to try other protectors and now I'm using a different one that covers more screen but has bubbles all around it. I would buy the old one again but it'll be a waste to just throw this one away even if the bubbles annoy me. The screen protector that I recommended here is great, doesn't leave any bubbles and feels amazing. Only problem is that it leaves 0.3cm out on each side which isn't too bad but it does leave a lot exposed. It's the best one you could buy and works great with the case that I also recommended. The review on the link was left by me by the way. I hope I helped.
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You mean, like 0.3mm out, right? 0.3cm (i.e., 3mm) seems quite a lot. And doesn't it create the halo effect due to that?
I had several units of this brand in the past for the Mi4c but they were crashing all the time, without apparent reason.
Regarding the case you recommend, from Cafele brand, is it proeminent in front so it properly protects the screen when the phone is turned face down? From the picture in the ebay it seems not, but those pictures are not real actually.
Currently I have this case of brand Luanke from Gearbest, which seems very solid and thus protect the phone very well, volume and power buttons work better than without case (same as you described with yours) while giving a nice look, but I find it a little unconfortable in hand due to not so smooth edge cuts:
gearbest.com/cases-leather/pp_631798.html
As you can see in the pictures, the case has is least 1mm larger than the phone in the front side. How is yours regarding this matter? If you could post a picture it would be nice.
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You mean, like 0.3mm out, right? 0.3cm (i.e., 3mm) seems quite a lot. And doesn't it create the halo effect due to that?
I had several units of this brand in the past for the Mi4c but they were crashing all the time, without apparent reason.
Regarding the case you recommend, from Cafele brand, is it proeminent in front so it properly protects the screen when the phone is turned face down? From the picture in the ebay it seems not, but those pictures are not real actually.
Currently I have this case of brand Luanke from Gearbest, which seems very solid and thus protect the phone very well, volume and power buttons work better than without case (same as you described with yours) while giving a nice look, but I find it a little unconfortable in hand due to not so smooth edge cuts:
gearbest.com/cases-leather/pp_631798.html
As you can see in the pictures, the case has is least 1mm larger than the phone in the front side. How is yours regarding this matter? If you could post a picture it would be nice.
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tackling your questions in order:
1) yes i meant 0.3cm/3mm (it is a big gap i agree but no halo effect)
2) The lip on the front of the case is very small, it wouldn't protect a faceplant on concrete but if you left the phone on your table then it wouldn't make contact with the screen. you are right about the pictures in the listing, the images are wrong and the lip is bigger than that but it isn't going to be very protective.
3) Ill be able to post a picture for you sometime later today. I dont have a spare camera so ill use my friend's phone.
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tackling your questions in order:
1) yes i meant 0.3cm/3mm (it is a big gap i agree but no halo effect)
2) The lip on the front of the case is very small, it wouldn't protect a faceplant on concrete but if you left the phone on your table then it wouldn't make contact with the screen. you are right about the pictures in the listing, the images are wrong and the lip is bigger than that but it isn't going to be very protective.
3) Ill be able to post a picture for you sometime later today. I dont have a spare camera so ill use my friend's phone.
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ive attached pictures here
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ive attached pictures here
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Thanks for the pictures.
Yap, it looks as the same as the one I have now on my Mi 5s. However, I paid only 0.50 USD in AliExpress
Before this I tried the ASLING brand from Gearbest, but that was very bad: not glass, cheap plastic (you can even see a grid of small dots in the screen), noisy when touching (just as plastic), fingerprint magnet, and completely reflective, I needed to put the brightness on the maximum. And it was pulling out easily. In summary, simply garbage. I removed after some hours of use.
This one similar to yours, looks bad in the edges, but at least is full transparent and has real glass touch.
Now I ordered the Mocolo full cover and also the Cafele with comes with oil to apply. I will post pictures when I received them and after trying them.
Cheers.
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Thanks for the pictures.
Yap, it looks as the same as the one I have now on my Mi 5s. However, I paid only 0.50 USD in AliExpress
Before this I tried the ASLING brand from Gearbest, but that was very bad: not glass, cheap plastic (you can even see a grid of small dots in the screen), noisy when touching (just as plastic), fingerprint magnet, and completely reflective, I needed to put the brightness on the maximum. And it was pulling out easily. In summary, simply garbage. I removed after some hours of use.
This one similar to yours, looks bad in the edges, but at least is full transparent and has real glass touch.
Now I ordered the Mocolo full cover and also the Cafele with comes with oil to apply. I will post pictures when I received them and after trying them.
Cheers.
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Looking forward to the pictures!
Is there a matte finished screen protector for our device like in this link https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32624827571.html?spm=a2g0n.search-cache.0.0.70bc08b9Fx4YsM
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abirftw said:
Is there a matte finished screen protector for our device like in this link https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32624827571.html?spm=a2g0n.search-cache.0.0.70bc08b9Fx4YsM
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I've not come across any so I can't say.
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I've not come across any so I can't say.
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I've come across some, but they don't look really look like matte finish to me.
Too bad
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I've tried Cafele's tempered glass and the oil removes the bubble effect on the side.
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I've tried Cafele's tempered glass and the oil removes the bubble effect on the side.
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I am using it as well and I am surprised how good the oil works to fill out the edge gaps. I am also a little worried whether or not it'll damage my screen in someway. :/
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I tried al few screen protectors, but they were all crap. They did'nt stick on the edge of the Display.
My last try was this one and i realy can recommend it:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B01N3RHZDC/ref=ya_st_dp_summary?tag=93ref-21
It's a so called full-cover. It fits absolutly perfect to the display and its nearly invisible. There is no ugly edge where the cover does'nt stick on the Display.
The fingerprint sensor is still working without problems.
btw.....I use it in combination with this silicone-case:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B01M2DNTD2/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=93ref-21
In combination with a silicone-case you can't see that there is a screen protector on it.
It looks simply great in my opinion.
The only negative thing is, that the screen protector is more sensitive for greasy fingerprints than the original display. But hey.....that's no big problem.
Yes, I know. Its not the cheapest solution. Maybe you can find similar parts on aliexpress, but no guarantee that it will be in the same quality.
I've had my Note 8 for 9 days now and while I was thinking about buying a screen protector when it arrived, I must admit that I'm quite impressed by the quality of the screen. It just feels so hard to scratch, so much so that one would probably struggle trying to scratch it even on purpose. I don't really see myself scratching it by accident anytime soon, although I must admit I'm this kind of guy who never drops the phone and handles it with extreme care.
I'm just curious to read what you guys think, maybe somebody persuades me to buy a screen protector after all, who knows.
The Gorilla Glass 5 is more shatter-resistant than previous versions and that means it is softer also. I had my Note 7 only a few days before it started picking up micro scratches on the front and back. Your mileage may vary. I'm putting on a Whitestone done and a skin on the back of mine.
I bought a screen protector but am debating putting it on. I may try it and see how it goes
Many of us do fine with no protection. Others report getting scratches no matter how hard they try not to.
I've always put a protector on my previous phones but I'm using my Note 8 without a screen protector. Like you, I'm always very careful with my phone and never drop it. The pocket that I put my phone in only contains my phone; I never put loose change or key in there. My Spigen Slim Armor case protects most of the phone and keeps the screen off the table surface if I do put it face down. With all of the issues people have had with curved tempered glass screen protectors, it just seems like more hassle than it's worth. The only one I'd get is the Whitestone Dome but that costs $60 here. Bit pricey.
I always run a protectors. Better safe then sorry.
I take very good care of my stuff. If a scratch did happen you cant take it back. So there would be no way ti fit it without buying a no front glass or new phone.
With a protector you can simply remove it and put on another one.
Fwiw, 5 days and i have a scratch, no clue where it came from. Have never used screen protectors, but will now
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It's def worth it. On my S8 there was a scratch after few days and I am very careful about my phone so really don't know how it happened.
Same here...it is so minor and you cannot even feel it. Babied it too. Also a small one on the back and it had a case day 1. Something tells me it came like that
Going naked for now. Just watch out for sand, fine sand , seems to be the only thing. If it was a flat screen I would have tempered glass on it.
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ANY sharp instrument will scratch if the point is pressed in to the display, period. It is MUCH easier to bang on it with a long blade edge and look like you did nothing than the tip of an x-acto knife. That is what those demos do. Resisting attack across a large area is really what you are seeing. Keys are small like that etc...
Finally, a big part of Gorilla Glass is that it also HIDES or better put doesnt show minor damage as much as other glass. In other words, its there you just don't see it.
I bet a screen for this will be $300-$400. How much is a protector that looks good?
Better safe than sorry. Once it's scratched it would bug the hell out of me. It's a £1000 device.
Throw a screen protector on it. In time, micro-scratches will appear on your screen if you dont!
Note FE, had it on the ironing board (and forgot about it). Folded the ironing board and it very gently slid down it onto the floor face down....very gently....resulted in a 7mm scratch.
Not got one on this yet but it does highlight how pathetically weak GG5 is.
I put one on from iq shield...works great with my ringke wave
Since its a huge pain to find a glass protector that fits and doesn't screw up touch sensitivity I just grabbed the $8 Skinomi wet install protector, works great including with the edge display and S-Pen.
I believe the micro-scratches are not the actual "glass" screen itself. It's the oleophobic coating that we see scratched.
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I believe the micro-scratches are not the actual "glass" screen itself. It's the oleophobic coating that we see scratched.
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But if it still looks like a scratch....
I personally really don't get the mentality of people who put huges cases and screen protectors on their phones. Most people here are obsessive on having 'the latest' and upgrade yearly when new stuff comes out so they can have the nicest, thinnest, prettiest shiny piece of hardware - Then they go wrap it all up in a thick rubber/plastic case and make it look sh*t. Why buy a device with no bezel if you're gonna put a huge thick case bezel around it!
I've had all my smartphones without cases/screen protectors as that's how they're meant to be and to honest I look after my devices. I usually get 2 year contracts on phones and at the end of 2 years, worst case, a few micro scratches on the screen - That's it. Do these guys bubble wrap their cars? It's a phone, it's designed to be used, it'll get the odd small scratch, just enjoy it for what it is IMO.
I have dropped my Pixel XL and the screen protector cracked but the screen was fine. Same on my Nexus 6. Dropped it on it's face from about 5' and the screen protector cracked all over it but the screen remained crack free. I fell that a glass screen protector takes the abuse of a drop. Granted, I've never dropped a phone with a screen protector so not sure if they would have cracked the screen without a protector but to me, It used to be relatively cheap protection. Some of the better protectors are 40+ now so it's not as easy a decision as it used to be for me.
I've tried plastic, wet install, and glass..... Glass was the best in terms of clarity but much more of a finger print magnet than the original glass underneath. And more reflective... The wet install one showed the spent marks.. At this rate I'll spend more on screen protectors than a replacement screen.... Please send your recommendations. Thanks
Lol. There are like 10 screen protector threads here already !
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Lol. There are like 10 screen protector threads here already !
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But a lot of people are just looking for protection.... I am looking for more...
magichoward said:
I've tried plastic, wet install, and glass..... Glass was the best in terms of clarity but much more of a finger print magnet than the original glass underneath. And more reflective... The wet install one showed the spent marks.. At this rate I'll spend more on screen protectors than a replacement screen.... Please send your recommendations. Thanks
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Feel your pain. I've done all what you have except for trying the glass ones.
Here is my experience. Get wet applied plastic one that is harder than the usual wet applied ones. A person on another thread recommend a Walmart Onn brand , I used it and it didn't leave S Pen marks at all. However, it was a ***** to fit correctly, so I being OCD I removed it and went back to the usual wet applied one again that does leave S Pen marks.
I believe Tech21 makes a screen protector similar in characteristics as the Walmart ONN one . Ain't tried that yet. But I can tell you that if the the Walmart ONN screen protector was applied correctly then I'd still be a fan.
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But a lot of people are just looking for protection.... I am looking for more...
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So your criteria would be: best protection available without fingerprints, reflections, or s-pen marks? Might be tough without compromising a bit on one of those aspects. I've tried 2 cheap glass ones that I took off immediately, the Spigen film protectors that leave s-pen marks, and the Whitestone Dome which which was best for me of the bunch (no s-pen marks of course, and no fingerprint issues so far. Haven't paid attention to reflection issues as of yet). The new Zagg glass looks promising too...ymmv
I like Skinomi. You get some s pen marks but they go away overnight. I use the spen alot too, it's my preferred way to interact with the screen.
Go naked and live with it. I have been there, where you say to be and feel your pain. I just gave up and live with it. In case I really manage to break or badly scratch it, I will have to get a new one or live with it. All is better than the smudgy protectors giving a bad feeling to the touch and a bad view.
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Go naked and live with it. I have been there, where you say to be and feel your pain. I just gave up and live with it. In case I really manage to break or badly scratch it, I will have to get a new one or live with it. All is better than the smudgy protectors giving a bad feeling to the touch and a bad view.
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I'm so close to doing that but I live by the beach worried about scratches more than dropping it..
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I'm so close to doing that but I live by the beach worried about scratches more than dropping it..
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Beach and sand indeed is an issue. I do not live on the beach but was there last summer (S8+, no pen, easier situation) and was so glad to have a film protector on it.
Bite the bullet and get a Whitestone dome?
If I may offer an alternative suggestion? I did not even want to risk the screen protector lottery on this phone, so I took a different approach.
I have used a case with a built-in screen protector. I feel it gives me the best of both worlds; ultimate protection from drops and screen damage when out and about, and in a couple of seconds (when at home and the soft safety of my sofa), it can be out of its case and back to a slippery naked unblemished masterpiece.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/i-Blason-Galaxy-Note-Protection-Reduction/dp/B074W3WBVC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1516792422&sr=8-1&keywords=i-blason+note+8
Cons:
Minor reduction in finger sensitivity at the edges.
Adds significant bulk, especially in width making one-handed use impractical
Screen protector picks up scratches after a few months
Wearing polarised sunglasses makes screen hard to see (rainbow effect)
Be certain inside of screen cover is clear of grit before fitting
Pros:
Zero reduction in S Pen sensitivity.
Phone is tank-like. Has survived drops onto solid concrete no problem.
Screen protector can be popped out and used just as case if desired.
Dust caps for charging and headphone sockets
Easy to take off and have naked phone
It all balances out IMO. It might not be a perfect solution, but it is mine and I am happy with it.
I would advise against it, especially in a sandy environment. It WILL find a way in and then have a party with your screen. Also, in my personal opinion, this is way too bulky.
Personally, I am using a pitaka case. I am also having a thin, blank film on the back because ofscrarch protecting the back.
i'm using the official one for S8+ and it's very good, the s-pen does not leave any mark
I have used all types and found my favorite to be the tech21. No sensitivity issues, screen is clear, no spen marks, and decent with dealing with fingerprints. I couldn't use another after using this one.
Wouldn't it be just nice if Samsung offered a factory glass screen protector as an option when buying these devices. I'm sure they are aware of customers concerns - surely they have the technology to be able to do this, albeit probably not financially viable hence no go.
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If you do can you post a video and the steps you use. I've heard the screen is much better without it but I'm extremely nervous about removing it.
StormCell said:
If you do can you post a video and the steps you use. I've heard the screen is much better without it but I'm extremely nervous about removing it.
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There are several videos on YouTube. It looks really easy to do.
Edit: here's a couple of them:
https://youtu.be/AMjDBKvsWvE
https://youtu.be/FDfTzFznJa4
anuraj1 said:
There are several videos on YouTube. It looks really easy to do.
Edit: here's a couple of them:
https://youtu.be/AMjDBKvsWvE
https://youtu.be/FDfTzFznJa4
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Did you do it?
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Did you do it?
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My Fold2 doesn't arrive until tomorrow. I haven't decided if I'm going to remove it yet since i haven't seen it in person.
I did it... It was very easy.. The screens feel better but it looks the same to me... If you don't like the feel of the screen protectors than just remove it... Do it slow and take your time but it very easy to do.. it also doesn't collect as much fingerprints on it now...
I bit the bullet and removed the screen protector from the inside screen. It was extremely easy, I just used a sheet of paper to gently pull away from the camera cutout enough to grasp it and pull off as easily as any other protector.
I can confirm the screen feels fantastic now, instead of a rubbery sticky feeling to that of glass. It also no longer attracts fingerprints. It seems more responsive and sharper.
I think as long as you take care not to get anything abrasive on the screen it will remain in good condition.
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I scratched the screen protecton with my finger nail do you think that without the protection the screen is also so delicate?
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I scratched the screen protecton with my finger nail do you think that without the protection the screen is also so delicate?
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YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen. ( See link to video in Indian forum.)
WHY are folks so keen to remove the factory fitted film so soon after purchase of a $2000 device?
By all means remove it (and replace it) after 6 months if it has picked up a scratch or two but until then LIVE WITH the fingerprints magnet and let the film protect the expensive and delicate main screen underneath it.
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YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen. ( See link to video in Indian forum.)
WHY are folks so keen to remove the factory fitted film so soon after purchase of a $2000 device?
By all means remove it (and replace it) after 6 months if it has picked up a scratch or two but until then LIVE WITH the fingerprints magnet and let the film protect the expensive and delicate main screen underneath it.
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I understand what you are saying but the original Fold did not have this factory fitted screen protector. I read a lot of people's experiences with that device, stating that the screen is more durable than first anticipated and no real reports of extensive problems relating to scratches over the many months of use. The Fold 2 has a more durable construction than that and I am confident it will live up to the same expectations, provided you take a little more care overall than you would a regular phone. Also someone mentioned that the screen protector hardly protects it anyway, you can still dig a fingernail into it without too much pressure.
The rubbery sticky texture of the screen protector left me feeling disappointed when using the inner screen, and constant smudges (which weren't quick and easy to remove compared to a glass screen) that impaired the clarity and sharpness of the display. So after careful thought I removed it, and now it just feels like a proper glass screen and fingerprints are no longer an issue. The experience is vastly improved and I don't feel that the screen is vulnerable either.
If it turns out that the screen suffers from damage in the next 12 months, then I will get it replaced for £100 and then consider keeping the protector on. But for now I am more than happy with the reasons for removing it.
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For me, I found myself applying greater pressure when cleaning the fingerprints and smudges on the installed screen protector, and cleaning it more frequently. That continual process is surely more detrimental to the device than worrying about the possibility of a scratch. A quick swipe with a microfiber cloth now takes care of things and puts my mind at ease.
With the addition of the little feet on the bezel of the inner screen, there is a much lessened chance of debris getting caught between the folded screen.
I'm with apprentice on this one and agree pretty much down the line. I asked this question on the OG thread as did another fellow and there was not one report of problems with screen scratching and all reported it had proved more durable than expected in reference to the entire device.
I've got the screen replacement in one year if it proves to be worse than expected. If I need to I'll look at getting back into a protector after the replacement should it be needed. In the end of it for me the only thing crazier than spending 2k on this device is spending 2k on this device and not enjoying it. The screen protector was detracting from my experience enough for me to want it gone and having removed I now know more than I realized. I'm not going to cheer-lead on this one but if a person was seriously bothered by the thing as I was then I would certainly recommend giving it a try while you still have your cheap out with the screen replacement.
So this afternoon I opened up my ZF2 and I saw 2 big bubbles underneath the screen protector. I tried to squeegee them out but to no avail. I wasn't planning on removing the screen protector but this point I had no choice. Used my ifixit spudger right at the selfie camera spot and it came up very easy. It does feel and look much better I must admit. I still have the front screen protector still on and I probably won't take it off anytime soon. Then again, on my S10e I still ahve the factory screen protector on and it still looks great.
https://imgur.com/gallery/Fg388lo
I purchased the SaharaCase protector from bestbuy as well as the Orzero 2 pack from Amazon. These are the exact same with a few caveats. They are as follows :
Best Buy Sahara
-29.99
-1 Front protector
-1 Back protector with spine cover
-1 Inside protector
Amazon Orzero
-Price 11.99
-2 front protectors
-2 inside protectors
The spine isn’t enough to justify the more than 2.5x in price. I have a Dbrand skin on the back, so the back cover was useless. For me the Best Buy option is a no go. Let me know if you have more questions or are looking for more pictures.
UPDATE :
I went ahead and applied the inner screen protector. I like the way it feels over the original. It’s smoother and closer to a glass feel. I’m waiting a full day to ensure that the micro bubbles disappear. If they do, then Orzero is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR GO. 3 Majors.
UPDATE 2:
It has been less than 24 hours and I want to provide an update...
THIS SCREEN PROTECTOR IS ALMOST PERFECT!!! It is very smooth to the touch. Almost all of the imperfections from my install are gone. There are 3 small bubbles that I’m waiting to disappear, but they have already shrunk. I think anyone looking for an upgrade over the default protector will be well served to grab a few of these. I say a few because it might take a few attempts to get it right, but at 11 dollars its worth it. Good luck everyone and let me know if you have any other questions.
There was a bubble and what looked like a small bit of dirt under the factory screen protector so I removed it. It was really easy to do and the screen feels great. I had the F1 which never had a screen protector and never had any issue with it so I think the F2 will be the same without it.
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YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen.
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Did you own the OG Fold? I did. The inside screen was far from fragile. Granted I take really good care of my device but the inside screen looked new after 8 months of use. I hate the screen protector Samsung used on the inside screen of the Fold 2. It's hazy, tacky to the touch, and a fingerprint magnet. I'm taking it off it's just a matter of when.
Any updates on this? How's the inner screen holding up for those of you that removed the inner screen protector?
I've had my phone for a week and really don't like the feel and smudginess of the inner screen protector and thus really want to peel it off.
Also, if appreciate if those of you who removed it could make a comment about how you handle your devices - ie. do you baby it or treat it more or less like any other phones?
Keeping mine on for now, I actually don't mind the feel of it and like the idea of the extra protective layer. Just waiting on cases to become available and ill be happy.
Martin5000 said:
Any updates on this? How's the inner screen holding up for those of you that removed the inner screen protector?
I've had my phone for a week and really don't like the feel and smudginess of the inner screen protector and thus really want to peel it off.
Also, if appreciate if those of you who removed it could make a comment about how you handle your devices - ie. do you baby it or treat it more or less like any other phones?
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Zero issues here... No regrets whatsoever. Feels, looks so much better than that rubbery crap it came with. Does make me feel a bit more cautious of course, but not enough to detract from normal usage and showing it off.
acshulk said:
https://imgur.com/gallery/Fg388lo
I purchased the SaharaCase protector from bestbuy as well as the Orzero 2 pack from Amazon. These are the exact same with a few caveats. They are as follows :
Best Buy Sahara
-29.99
-1 Front protector
-1 Back protector with spine cover
-1 Inside protector
Amazon Orzero
-Price 11.99
-2 front protectors
-2 inside protectors
The spine isn’t enough to justify the more than 2.5x in price. I have a Dbrand skin on the back, so the back cover was useless. For me the Best Buy option is a no go. Let me know if you have more questions or are looking for more pictures.
UPDATE :
I went ahead and applied the inner screen protector. I like the way it feels over the original. It’s smoother and closer to a glass feel. I’m waiting a full day to ensure that the micro bubbles disappear. If they do, then Orzero is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR GO. 3 Majors.
UPDATE 2:
It has been less than 24 hours and I want to provide an update...
THIS SCREEN PROTECTOR IS ALMOST PERFECT!!! It is very smooth to the touch. Almost all of the imperfections from my install are gone. There are 3 small bubbles that I’m waiting to disappear, but they have already shrunk. I think anyone looking for an upgrade over the default protector will be well served to grab a few of these. I say a few because it might take a few attempts to get it right, but at 11 dollars its worth it. Good luck everyone and let me know if you have any other questions.
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The Orzero got terrible reviews on Amazon. Most say it's horrendous. You really like it?
Did you install over the stock screen protector?
dezborders said:
YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen. ( See link to video in Indian forum.)
WHY are folks so keen to remove the factory fitted film so soon after purchase of a $2000 device?
By all means remove it (and replace it) after 6 months if it has picked up a scratch or two but until then LIVE WITH the fingerprints magnet and let the film protect the expensive and delicate main screen underneath it.
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I am using the screen protector that came with the phone but I am worried that it might not be that good to rely on.
I am not taking about dropping the phone or something. All am I caring about is scratches from the pen or stuff in my pocket. Can this screen protector help against these or it is useless?
The reason I kept it, because it fit so well and it does not affect the screen quality.
Obviously experience may vary quite a bit due to different conditions. For me so far the stock protector works quite well and protects the screen from scratches.
But as I like the "Glass feeling" a bit more I'll fit a tempered glass protector sometime in the future....
Agree. I will do the same. It is just not easy to find a glass protector that actually fits
Khalid Madkour said:
Agree. I will do the same. It is just not easy to find a glass protector that actually fits
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Well, both Amfilm and Whitestone have UV-based tempered glass protectors that fit really good, but do you want to spend the money for those?
They're not like $10 for 3 pieces or something
MasterThiefGarrett said:
Well, both Amfilm and Whitestone have UV-based tempered glass protectors that fit really good, but do you want to spend the money for those?
They're not like $10 for 3 pieces or something
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Spending 70~100 USD to protect 1200$ is worth it but the problem these kind of screen protectors can not be found in Egypt I think so until I find a way to get them without paying much taxes and fees I will stick with the default S.protector
I remember Samsung saying that a glass screen cover would interfere with the fingerprint scanner. I'm curious as to whether or not that's actually the case...
I had problems with the finger reader. He caught the fourth, fifth time. (I added the same one a couple of times and it didn't help.) Today I took off the factory foil and magic. The reader catches off the shot every time!
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I remember Samsung saying that a glass screen cover would interfere with the fingerprint scanner. I'm curious as to whether or not that's actually the case...
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I tried a cheap UV-based tempered glass (10 euros) and on my Note 10 it works flawless every time.
And since the S21 series has a much bigger sensor I expect it to work fine as well, I know Whitestone Dome works fine, AND the AmFilm one too.
I used Note 8 for 3 years without screen protector and had maybe 1 micro scratch that was only visible when screen off. Now still using S21U with pre installed screen protector but the feeling of it is not so good, very rubbery especially if fingers are wet. Debetaing to take it of because I have some problems with fingerprint reader too, it's not bad but sometimes it's not detecting the finger.
Make sure your case has a lip guard. That has always worked for me.
I really liked the factory fitted screen protector.
It is more than adequate to protect the screen from scratches from everyday use. Unfortunately the corner peeled off after getting caught on some fabric on the couch so I had to replace it.
I decided against a tempered glass protector for the following reasons:
1. Regular tempered glass SP interfere with the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. Go to amazon and search for s21U TP screen protectors and you'll see what i mean.
2. There are some TG screen protectors that use UV light hardened resins to stick to screen. These are supposed to be fingerprint reader friendly but the good ones like Whitestone Dome are very expensive (for a disposable item) and you have to get a perfect installation, with the resin being a potential hazard if it seeps into the phone.
The cheap ones on the other hand are usually not very good and have a thinned out layer of glass overlying the fingerprint reader that is really irritating to look at.
3. I'm not sure what that UV hardening adhesive does to the oleophobic coating on the screen over a long time.
4. TG screen protectors do not have an anti-reflective coating like the phone screen. So once you apply it, the surface becomes shiny and reflective like glossy screens. This doesnt happen with the softer TPU protectors. Maybe someone who has recently applied a TG SP can post his experience here?
3. TG also adds thickness to the screen as compared to TPU screen protectors, and this is a pretty chunky phone already.
I moved away from tempered glass protectors about 3 years ago after trying a bunch of them and have been using TPU (liquid skin type) SP since then. They are cheap, easy to install, usually come in multi-packs so you can swap them out when it gets dirty or peels off or scratches etc, without breaking the bank or feeling sorry that you have to throw away a $30 - $50 tempered glass protector that you applied with utmost care. The newer materials are also very nice to touch, virtually indistinguishable from the underlying glass.
Having said all this, I have friends that swear by tempered glass protectors and are willing to pay anything to have the feel of glass under their fingers. There's no right or wrong answer here, just what works for you.
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I really liked the factory fitted screen protector.
It is more than adequate to protect the screen from scratches from everyday use. Unfortunately the corner peeled off after getting caught on some fabric on the couch so I had to replace it.
I decided against a tempered glass protector for the following reasons:
1. Regular tempered glass SP interfere with the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. Go to amazon and search for s21U TP screen protectors and you'll see what i mean.
2. There are some TG screen protectors that use UV light hardened resins to stick to screen. These are supposed to be fingerprint reader friendly but the good ones like Whitestone Dome are very expensive (for a disposable item) and you have to get a perfect installation, with the resin being a potential hazard if it seeps into the phone.
The cheap ones on the other hand are usually not very good and have a thinned out layer of glass overlying the fingerprint reader that is really irritating to look at.
3. I'm not sure what that UV hardening adhesive does to the oleophobic coating on the screen over a long time.
4. TG screen protectors do not have an anti-reflective coating like the phone screen. So once you apply it, the surface becomes shiny and reflective like glossy screens. This doesnt happen with the softer TPU protectors. Maybe someone who has recently applied a TG SP can post his experience here?
3. TG also adds thickness to the screen as compared to TPU screen protectors, and this is a pretty chunky phone already.
I moved away from tempered glass protectors about 3 years ago after trying a bunch of them and have been using TPU (liquid skin type) SP since then. They are cheap, easy to install, usually come in multi-packs so you can swap them out when it gets dirty or peels off or scratches etc, without breaking the bank or feeling sorry that you have to throw away a $30 - $50 tempered glass protector that you applied with utmost care. The newer materials are also very nice to touch, virtually indistinguishable from the underlying glass.
Having said all this, I have friends that swear by tempered glass protectors and are willing to pay anything to have the feel of glass under their fingers. There's no right or wrong answer here, just what works for you.
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A case with enough lip protection is good enough.
Thank you for sharing you experience. I decided to stay with the factory screen protector. It really love it as it fits the screen so well and is clear as if there was no screen protector.
enigmaamit said:
I really liked the factory fitted screen protector.
It is more than adequate to protect the screen from scratches from everyday use. Unfortunately the corner peeled off after getting caught on some fabric on the couch so I had to replace it.
I decided against a tempered glass protector for the following reasons:
1. Regular tempered glass SP interfere with the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. Go to amazon and search for s21U TP screen protectors and you'll see what i mean.
2. There are some TG screen protectors that use UV light hardened resins to stick to screen. These are supposed to be fingerprint reader friendly but the good ones like Whitestone Dome are very expensive (for a disposable item) and you have to get a perfect installation, with the resin being a potential hazard if it seeps into the phone.
The cheap ones on the other hand are usually not very good and have a thinned out layer of glass overlying the fingerprint reader that is really irritating to look at.
3. I'm not sure what that UV hardening adhesive does to the oleophobic coating on the screen over a long time.
4. TG screen protectors do not have an anti-reflective coating like the phone screen. So once you apply it, the surface becomes shiny and reflective like glossy screens. This doesnt happen with the softer TPU protectors. Maybe someone who has recently applied a TG SP can post his experience here?
3. TG also adds thickness to the screen as compared to TPU screen protectors, and this is a pretty chunky phone already.
I moved away from tempered glass protectors about 3 years ago after trying a bunch of them and have been using TPU (liquid skin type) SP since then. They are cheap, easy to install, usually come in multi-packs so you can swap them out when it gets dirty or peels off or scratches etc, without breaking the bank or feeling sorry that you have to throw away a $30 - $50 tempered glass protector that you applied with utmost care. The newer materials are also very nice to touch, virtually indistinguishable from the underlying glass.
Having said all this, I have friends that swear by tempered glass protectors and are willing to pay anything to have the feel of glass under their fingers. There's no right or wrong answer here, just what works for you.
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A case with enough lip protection is good enough.
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Yes. For most purposes, I agree with you that it's enough. I used to think so too... Never used a screen protector on any of my phones. Tried the tempered glass one on my last phone but felt it was too thick and reflective, so there is away and went with a naked screen. The experience was amazing, interfacing with the screen without any barriers. At least until I got two mysterious scratches on my OnePlus 6 screen, about 2 months apart, one after the other. Never dropped the phone, didn't put it face down, just used it normally. Must've been a grain of sand in my pocket... I'm still not sure to this day what caused the scratches...
I was using a spigen case without a screen protector then. Had to live with those scratches for 2 years. It was heartbreaking to see them everytime... See attached pics.
Since that experience, I vowed never to go with the screen naked again. Maybe I was just unlucky. But the fact that it happened twice is something I cannot ignore, and cannot risk on this new phone. It's too beautiful and too expensive to gamble with, at least based on my personal experience.
Second day I had my Note 10+ it faceplanted on a rough piece of 1/8" thick aluminum angle from pocket height. The metal hit the curve portion of the screen. Oh Yeah... isn't that special?
The case soaked up some of the impact but the factory screen protect was hit and savaged.
It protected the screen, zero damage. gulp.
Been using wet apply Gorilla IQ Sheild after trying a bunch of products including Whitestone.
After 9 months it's still on and while it's due to be replaced it's held up amazing well for $5 a pop.
Unlike the other junk, it's easy to apply and line up properly
I use the Zizo Bolt case to provide to majority of the protection. Raised screen guards on all sides are needed as I learned earlier
After 1.5 years, zero damage.
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Must've been a grain of sand in my pocket... I'm still not sure to this day what caused the scratches...
I was using a spigen case without a screen protector then. Had to live with those scratches for 2 years. It was heartbreaking to see them everytime... See attached pics.
Since that experience, I vowed never to go with the screen naked again. Maybe I was just unlucky. But the fact that it happened twice is something I cannot ignore, and cannot risk on this new phone. It's too beautiful and too expensive to gamble with, at least based on my personal experience.
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Sand will do it every time. I tried the same experiment over 2 years ago with the same results. I always use a good case and screen protector because permanent scratches pi$$ me off.
Clarification: Case with a lip everywhere and a regular TPU screen protector is great for the majority of use-cases out there. And, it is the cheapest option.
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Clarification: Case with a lip everywhere and a regular TPU screen protector is great for the majority of use-cases out there. And, it is the cheapest option.
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And very effective when using a good case.
BDU upper pant leg cargo pockets are great for smartphones...just make sure to keep the rear facing button, buttoned or your will lose it