I am using a non rooted nokia 7 plus. And in gcam, the resolution is restricted to 4 mp. Any way to resolve the issue?
What i think is this is related to the implementation of camera2api in the front camera or something from the system because i have tried with other apps and they register just 4mp and no 16mp...
and i thought nokia fooled us, bcz selfies from stock camera app doesn't look like of a 16mp sensor
only the Nokia Camera app reports the front facing camera as a 16Mpx
My guess is the sensor it's a 4Mpx and they just oversample merging multiple shots
This habit to declare the software resolution instead of the native sensor resolution is very common among the Chinese manufacturer
I think we just have to admit ourselves that this HMD is a much more Chinese company than the old Nokia was....
ice.man said:
only the Nokia Camera app reports the front facing camera as a 16Mpx
My guess is the sensor it's a 4Mpx and they just oversample merging multiple shots
This habit to declare the software resolution instead of the native sensor resolution is very common among the Chinese manufacturer
I think we just have to admit ourselves that this HMD is a much more Chinese company than the old Nokia was....
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its good that nokia only done cost cutting in front cam , cuz im not a selfie freak , and in good light its works just fine ?
Its not about if you use that lens or not. If they have put a 4MP lens then why are they lying to us. I did hardware tests from 5 sources, all of them show a 4MP lens.
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Its not about if you use that lens or not. If they have put a 4MP lens then why are they lying to us. I did hardware tests from 5 sources, all of them show a 4MP lens.
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It shows 16MP on my end, under the Hardware section of the Camera tab on the Device Info HW, with root for low-level access. However, under the Software section it shows 4MP like any other as you have mentioned, and perhaps that's telling something. ?
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Its not about if you use that lens or not. If they have put a 4MP lens then why are they lying to us. I did hardware tests from 5 sources, all of them show a 4MP lens.
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ye it is wrong , but it was just an opinion , although many other manufacturers do the same , in this case it was just that we are not expecting this from nokia , a 4mp lens and bootloader locked forever
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Hey everyone
I love my Nokia 930 just about everything is perfect on the phone except for one thing, the front facing cam stinks, its a shoddy 1.3 megapixel camera that takes horrible selfie, the prophet app barely improves it
My question is: is it possible to obtain the 5 mp front facing cam from the 730 or 735 whatever its called and install it in my 930? That would be the perfect marriage of high end rear cam and a high end front facing cam.
I am not interested in the 730 as a daily driver as everything else about the phone is very midrange and doesn't suit my needs, once again Nokia gets it wrong, putting a premier front facing cam on a midrange phone
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Hey everyone
I love my Nokia 930 just about everything is perfect on the phone except for one thing, the front facing cam stinks, its a shoddy 1.3 megapixel camera that takes horrible selfie, the prophet app barely improves it
My question is: is it possible to obtain the 5 mp front facing cam from the 730 or 735 whatever its called and install it in my 930? That would be the perfect marriage of high end rear cam and a high end front facing cam.
I am not interested in the 730 as a daily driver as everything else about the phone is very midrange and doesn't suit my needs, once again Nokia gets it wrong, putting a premier front facing cam on a midrange phone
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Hi,
I'm no expert, but I would highly doubt that. Even if we considered that the two cameras had same dimensions and the exact same flex connectors you'd still have to ensure that the camera firmware is compatible with the replaced camera. And given the different resolution hinting at the fact that the two cameras are entirely different models, it's unlikely that the two will be interchangeable. But either way, it's still early to tell as Lumia 730 isn't even officially out yet.
Btw, I also hate how Nokia makes compromises even in their top-line phones, which are not to be seen in lower models, with Lumia 930 it's also the missing microSD slot and missing replaceable battery (both of which are present in lower-tier models). But that's how Nokia plays it so we have to cope with that
its awsome phone i love it ^_^
hello guys.. i bought USED nexus 6 android version 6.0.1 cellphone takes good pictures in sunlight and well lit room but in low light cellphone takes worst photos... i have compared the camera quality with other nexus 6 ( XT 1103 ) and difference was quite shocking. In low light camera quality is pixelated. If i use flash it take better pictures but still lack the quality...
Now please guide me how to check / fix cellphone camera.
Scree shot
http://imgur.com/vzQAlCB
Pictures without Flash
http://imgur.com/aPRcXpS
http://imgur.com/WSvjXUq
http://imgur.com/iG8zkKL
Try to shoot with HDR+ turned ON. You might get some better pictures
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Try to shoot with HDR+ turned ON. You might get some better pictures
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did that already but even after turning on HDR + pictures were pixelated....
The Nexus 6 camera has always been weak taking photos in low light situations. This is why for the 6P the camera sensor was changed to one with larger pixels. HDR+ is the only real fix, as the camera isn't broken.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The Nexus 6 camera has always been weak taking photos in low light situations. This is why for the 6P the camera sensor was changed to one with larger pixels. HDR+ is the only real fix, as the camera isn't broken.
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Thanks you for the swift response but i have tested 2 Nexus 6 cellphone side by side and the one in my possession was taking worst pictures.
any app / apk to test the camera in detail ?
None that I'm aware of. You'd need to run a diagnostics test, and there is no diagnostics app in the OS. In the meantime, perhaps you can upload the image that was taken with the second camera, because looking at your images that you've already posted, they seem normal for this device.
Hi all members,
i am considering to purchase Xiaomi A1, i hear that there is dual camera and optical 2x but i need the review from real people who own Xiaomi A1. Image is good or not (acceptable etc...)
another point about battery, is it enough for one day for daily use
Thank you all
For the battery part I can confirm it last 6-7 hours of screen on time with normal internet browsing, unsure about gaming or watching video.
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Hi all members,
i am considering to purchase Xiaomi A1, i hear that there is dual camera and optical 2x but i need the review from real people who own Xiaomi A1. Image is good or not (acceptable etc...)
another point about battery, is it enough for one day for daily use
Thank you all
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go for it...
Image quality is Good in both natural as well as artificial lighting !!!
2X lossless zoom works fine also.
the battery life is good mate, i play modern strike online and guns of boom and it easily lasts a day.
the camera is ok but it will hopefully get better with some updates, the most annoying thing for me is no EIS and the 2x button actually just digitall zooms in to use the telefoto lens you need to go to manual mode and select it
vudungcom said:
Hi all members,
i am considering to purchase Xiaomi A1, i hear that there is dual camera and optical 2x but i need the review from real people who own Xiaomi A1. Image is good or not (acceptable etc...)
another point about battery, is it enough for one day for daily use
Thank you all
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I should say the phone is working good in all aspects but I'm completely disappointed with the dual camera, all the indoor shots are blurry (almost all) , to be honest, the selfie camera feels much better than the rear dual camera and the photos look okay in the outdoor. my brother has One Plus 2 (single camera 13MP), It's much better than this phone. I'm extremely surprised to see that many love Mi A1 camera but in reality, it looks very blurry. Initially, I thought It might be a hardware issue, but i don't think it's the hardware issue.
The reason for blurry photos might be because it doesn't have Optical image stabilization, so the output is blurry. Most of our photos will be indoor, so it should give decent output, but I'm disappointed with Mi A1 camera so far. Am i the only one here??? does anyone face this same issue??
raminjpr said:
I should say the phone is working good in all aspects but I'm completely disappointed with the dual camera, all the indoor shots are blurry (almost all) , to be honest, the selfie camera feels much better than the rear dual camera and the photos look okay in the outdoor. my brother has One Plus 2 (single camera 13MP), It's much better than this phone. I'm extremely surprised to see that many love Mi A1 camera but in reality, it looks very blurry. Initially, I thought It might be a hardware issue, but i don't think it's the hardware issue.
The reason for blurry photos might be because it doesn't have Optical image stabilization, so the output is blurry. Most of our photos will be indoor, so it should give decent output, but I'm disappointed with Mi A1 camera so far. Am i the only one here??? does anyone face this same issue??
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Thank you for your experience, waiting from other user.
I think that OIS is importance technology if we need high quality
raminjpr said:
I should say the phone is working good in all aspects but I'm completely disappointed with the dual camera, all the indoor shots are blurry (almost all) , to be honest, the selfie camera feels much better than the rear dual camera and the photos look okay in the outdoor. my brother has One Plus 2 (single camera 13MP), It's much better than this phone. I'm extremely surprised to see that many love Mi A1 camera but in reality, it looks very blurry. Initially, I thought It might be a hardware issue, but i don't think it's the hardware issue.
The reason for blurry photos might be because it doesn't have Optical image stabilization, so the output is blurry. Most of our photos will be indoor, so it should give decent output, but I'm disappointed with Mi A1 camera so far. Am i the only one here??? does anyone face this same issue??
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Once development started, once we get to port pixel camera with hdr+ that should take care of the problem.. my blurry shots from my redmi note 4x was resolved by the pixel's hdr+ and i'm possitive it's gonna do the same thing for this mi a1..
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Once development started, once we get to port pixel camera with hdr+ that should take care of the problem.. my blurry shots from my redmi note 4x was resolved by the pixel's hdr+ and i'm possitive it's gonna do the same thing for this mi a1..
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Google camera doesn't improve much. i rooted it and enabled hal3 to check it. it's worthless. worse than redmi 3s.
kraatus90 said:
Google camera doesn't improve much. i rooted it and enabled hal3 to check it. it's worthless. worse than redmi 3s.
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It may work randomly on ramdam people.. ?
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It may work randomly on ramdam people.. ?
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Nope, results will only change if there's different sensor on different sets. but if there's no other sensor than OV12a10 , thn results won't be different. that sensor is just pure crap, hell even raw images can't give you better results on this sensor. i'm seriously disappointed by this.
i have a redmi 3s, when i saw about this phone , i was happy since it was supposed to come with imx386 sensor and stock android. i thought gcam with hdr+ will improve this phone even better than what it did with redmi 3s. but after trying it with gcam. oh man, never felt this much disappointed. it doesn't come with imx386 at all , and possibility of having imx386 on different set is 0. because firmware doesn't have libs for that sensor.
robgee789 said:
the battery life is good mate, i play modern strike online and guns of boom and it easily lasts a day.
the camera is ok but it will hopefully get better with some updates, the most annoying thing for me is no EIS and the 2x button actually just digitall zooms in to use the telefoto lens you need to go to manual mode and select it
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You are kind of wrong with the 2x digital zoom and telephoto lens, yes you can do it manually by selecting telephoto lens but for the automatic part I have tried, you need to have good lighting condition and than you press 2x on the screen it automatically switch to telephoto lens for optical zoom.
I have covered the telephoto lens and the camera goes black since I have covered it. For the low light condition I tried same thing by covering the telephoto lens and press on 2x and it still works because now this is digital zoom. I'm not sure if this suppose to be like this or a bug, sorry didn't do any research on that yet
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You are kind of wrong with the 2x digital zoom and telephoto lens, yes you can do it manually by selecting telephoto lens but for the automatic part I have tried, you need to have good lightning condition and than you press 2x on the screen it automatically switch to telephoto lens for optical zoom.
I have covered the telephoto lens and the camera goes black since I have covered it. For the low light condition I tried same thing by covering the telephoto lens and press on 2x and it still works because now this is digital zoom. I'm not sure if this suppose to be like this or a bug, sorry didn't do any research on that yet
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Ill check k that out mate I was playing around with it in my living room so I'll try it outside in good lighting [emoji1]
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Did they use new camera sensors or is it the same hardware as ins the 9+ for the standard and tele camera?
It's the same harware, plus the wide angle lens.
That sucks, coming from the S8 I could just get the S9+ for less money if I only care about the camera.
Well I'm sure if it was a 48mgp you'd be like wow, although for many just because it's a high number rather than knowing about photography.
It's the same sensors that I'm not concerned about, if the software has improved to make great use of them (pixel) or near to then I'm happy.
But of course in some people's mind 48mgp HAS to be better than 12mgp right?.....
Megapixels are 75% marketing and 25% reality.
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It's the same harware, plus the wide angle lens.
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What sensor does the s10 use? I don't think that info is out yet.
The s8 and s9 had the "same" 12mp sensor yet they were totally different, IMX333 vs IMX345.
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What sensor does the s10 use? I don't think that info is out yet.
The s8 and s9 had the "same" 12mp sensor yet they were totally different, IMX333 vs IMX345.
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I read on some review site that they thought it was the same sensor as the 9+ but I imagine that was speculation. It wouldn't surprise me if it was though.
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Well I'm sure if it was a 48mgp you'd be like wow, although for many just because it's a high number rather than knowing about photography.
It's the same sensors that I'm not concerned about, if the software has improved to make great use of them (pixel) or near to then I'm happy.
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If you knew about photography you would know software doesn't matter if its the same hardware, raw files will be the same an are processed with Lightroom as I want them, don't care about Samsung's JPG converter.
I would have been wowed by a larger sensor and a periscope tele with 80mm or more. Definitely not by last years hardware.
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If you knew about photography you would know software doesn't matter if its the same hardware, raw files will be the same an are processed with Lightroom as I want them, don't care about Samsung's JPG converter.
I would have been wowed by a larger sensor and a periscope tele with 80mm or more. Definitely not by last years hardware.
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Sorry but you're wrong. You can look at the Pixel or Magic Lantern for the Canon EOS DSLRs. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/7x3m8b/pixel-3-camera-software-pixel-xl. If you would like to see a extreme version of how software will change cameras, checkout https://www.pdnonline.com/gear/how-ai-neural-networks-upscale-images/
Will pixel 4Xl have normal wide lens or only selfie wide?
So far it looks like wide with a software crop for "normal" mode for the front
Also looks like the same sensor in the pixel 3
Unsure if it will boast any significant improvements over the pixel 3 in the camera department
It will. You've got multi-lens photography and one of the few secrets left, exactly what that 3rd sensor might be is not yet leaked but whatever it may be combined it adds up to more information that the on board co-processor will have with which to work. Those sensors will be leveraged against Goog's unsurpassed image processing capabilities and the result is going to be a leap forward for the Pixel line. How much of a leap is yet to be seen but I'm thinking one of it's biggest weaknesses should be improved; telephoto right now is some combination of soft and/or noisy. That at least should be much improved and it's an area where Goog visibly lagged behind other smartphone camera offerings. The reasons for that improvement go back to the topic of the thread...
The latest rumors say both lens are telephoto and the third unknown sensor is guessed to be time of flight or spectral.
No longer appears to be in doubt; the Pixel 4 XL will ship with 12.2MP Sony IMX363 sensor with an aperture of f/1.7 and a 16MP Sony IMX481 sensor with a telephoto lens. Interestingly the videos showing the prototype phones like the Vietnamese one all show that the third sensor and it's function are not in the firmware. Nor is it in the Pixel 4 camera APK which just leaked. It appears there are some things Goog doesn't want to accidentally *rolls eyes* leak and is trying to hold to reveal. Kinda interesting that...
Yes but the 363 is the same main sensor in the pixel 3 lineup
You'd think they'd upgrade the main sensor...bad move by Google imo but let's wait and see what the results yield
Not sure about that, upgrading the main sensor would toss buttloads of software development on what was one of the best total packages in the business. It was in the long shots that the competition was beating the Pixel lineup in photographs, in the close up stuff it was still absolutely top tier. Now they should have the telephoto stuff covered as well and you have the addition of the third mystery sensor. I don't think they can miss on it being a real upgrade, it's a matter of how significant.
Anyone here know what kind of telephoto it will be 3x? 5x?8x?I really want to have a better telephoto camera for my photography hobby.So im torn between pixel 4 xl and p30 pro
The rumor had it 5x optical plus 3x digital for 8x.
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Not sure about that, upgrading the main sensor would toss buttloads of software development on what was one of the best total packages in the business. It was in the long shots that the competition was beating the Pixel lineup in photographs, in the close up stuff it was still absolutely top tier. Now they should have the telephoto stuff covered as well and you have the addition of the third mystery sensor. I don't think they can miss on it being a real upgrade, it's a matter of how significant.
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I understand this but surely upgrading the main sensor wouldn't be too hard for the Google developers, they did a great job on the 362 and 363 sensors.
There is some evidence they did upgrade it in at least one respect; that we know of the aperture was apparently changed to let more light in. It's possible other changes exist that aren't known. However that may be camera modules are mature now and most of the work is done in software. I think I know where you're coming from and I don't necessarily disagree with the thought that it would be nice if they used more up to date hardware in their devices. In this case I it's possible we may actually be ahead of the game because they are getting results that stand with the best in the business in most respects with the single older module right now. Keeping it and building on that with the telephoto lens and mystery sensor information added in might produce better results than a newer sensor with less development. More likely it's just Goog cheaping out on us as they do with all the rest of the hardware. Who knows? I still don't see how we don't see better results with what we know, it's a matter of how much better that I question.
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There is some evidence they did upgrade it in at least one respect; that we know of the aperture was apparently changed to let more light in. It's possible other changes exist that aren't known. However that may be camera modules are mature now and most of the work is done in software. I think I know where you're coming from and I don't necessarily disagree with the thought that it would be nice if they used more up to date hardware in their devices. In this case I it's possible we may actually be ahead of the game because they are getting results that stand with the best in the business in most respects with the single older module right now. Keeping it and building on that with the telephoto lens and mystery sensor information added in might produce better results than a newer sensor with less development. More likely it's just Goog cheaping out on us as they do with all the rest of the hardware. Who knows? I still don't see how we don't see better results with what we know, it's a matter of how much better that I question.
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definitely agree with Google cheaping out on hardware.
we have other manufacturers making phones with great hardware at competitive prices (UFS 3, HDR10 90hz etc)
i have owned every pixel phone since release ( and nexus lineup prior) and i do notice a common theme with google, they always only incrementally upgrade their hardware and asking for a premium.
thats not to say that their phones arent as good.
What are the difference between the sensor in Pixel 4 and the new one which is being used on newer phones?