Do not accept update X if you want to root! - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Hi,
In the future I would like to root my Note 8 and be able to undo root in case of problem.
I kepp receiving updates from Samsung that contain absolutely nothing in the changelog. I understand some of the updates contain rooting blockers.
Which update should I ignore if I want to safely root and unroot?

You can never know when and what update Samsung will push and how it will affect possibility of rooting. You can only research and write in the forum after the update release to ask the other users if rooting is still possible after the update.

If you root its better to disable auto updates.

Rooted my Note 8 SM-N950F with Magisk 16.7 with the latest Oreo firmware CRG1. You won't get OTA's after rooting anyway.

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[Q] Confusion about rooting

I'm looking to probably upgrade from my GS3 to the GS5. I've read some of the posts on here about rooting, but I'm still a bit confused. It seems that root is only available for 4.4.2, but then you can't keep root and upgrade to 5.0.1. Is that correct?
Also, could anyone point me to a thread that lays out the root method for the phone? I see a lot of people talking ABOUT the thread existing, but no actual links to the thread.
Thanks in advance!
slicetwo said:
I'm looking to probably upgrade from my GS3 to the GS5. I've read some of the posts on here about rooting, but I'm still a bit confused. It seems that root is only available for 4.4.2, but then you can't keep root and upgrade to 5.0.1. Is that correct?
Also, could anyone point me to a thread that lays out the root method for the phone? I see a lot of people talking ABOUT the thread existing, but no actual links to the thread.
Thanks in advance!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803. This is to get root from 4.4.4.
Theres another method to root 4.4.2 u gotta downgrade to a different kernel then use towelroot and then flas the upgraded kernel. Theres a method on here by the same guy that did 5.0 one , just search his name you can find it
Joehen873 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803. This is to get root from 4.4.4.
Theres another method to root 4.4.2 u gotta downgrade to a different kernel then use towelroot and then flas the upgraded kernel. Theres a method on here by the same guy that did 5.0 one , just search his name you can find it
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Note that OTA 5.0 just got pushed by AT&T and if you take it, there is currently no way to root or downgrade to 4.4.2 to use towelroot. In fact if you try to downgrade after the 5.0 OTA, you will end up bricking the phone. I'm sure devs around are working on finding a way to root the OTA, but as of today there isn't a way. There is an alternate method using FireFlash which is in beta to install 5.0 on a rooted 4.4.4. Note that if you are just about to buy a S5, it might be preloaded with 5.0 which until probably some time in the future is not rootable.
I would suggest delaying your upgrade from S3 to S5 until someone figures out how to root 5.0 OTA.
YasharF said:
Note that OTA 5.0 just got pushed by AT&T and if you take it, there is currently no way to root or downgrade to 4.4.2 to use towelroot. In fact if you try to downgrade after the 5.0 OTA, you will end up bricking the phone. I'm sure devs around are working on finding a way to root the OTA, but as of today there isn't a way. There is an alternate method using FireFlash which is in beta to install 5.0 on a rooted 4.4.4. Note that if you are just about to buy a S5, it might be preloaded with 5.0 which until probably some time in the future is not rootable.
I would suggest delaying your upgrade from S3 to S5 until someone figures out how to root 5.0 OTA.
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Gotcha. I'm not gonna not upgrade simply because root may not be possible yet if it's already 5.0, but that's good to know. Thanks.

[Q] Will i lose OTA after rooting ?

what will i lose after rooting aside from samsung pay and secure folder and should i install oreo's OTA after or before root?
osos96 said:
what will i lose after rooting aside from samsung pay and secure folder and should i install oreo's OTA after or before root?
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Keep in mind that if you root you will lose all Samsung Knox Related Apps.
Also no more OTA, so you need to wait for future custom rom updates, if you root.
Matziatzu said:
Keep in mind that if you root you will lose all Samsung Knox Related Apps.
Also no more OTA, so you need to wait for future custom rom updates, if you root.
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so should i update to oreos OTA first then?
osos96 said:
so should i update to oreos OTA first then?
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If you don't want to use any of the custom roms but just want root, then yes you should update to Oreo OTA first.
But if you want to use any of the custom roms, then you could just root now and flash a new Oreo build custom rom.
Just remember that when Samsung will push Android P in about 1 year from now you won't be able to get that update OTA, because you rooted the phone, by that time you will have to flash it manually, or use any of the custom roms.

rooted note 8, can I update?

I know I have posted multiple times asking the same question, sorry about that still learning how this works. I am aware that if I do a software update, I will lose root. However it has been quite some time and I would like to update if I can. My worry is, will I brick my phone?. This is a link to steps I followed to root my phone. I am still very new to this, sorry. And thank you for you help! Love XDA
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/development/root-samfail-galaxy-note8-t3685340
Yo will not get OTA updates while rooted, but you can download any available firmware for your device/country/opearator, one consideration to take into account: if you want to downgrade for any reason, you must not install a firmware with a higher bootloader version

Issues with unlocking WW version

Hello All,
First of thanks for writing all the helpful guides to unlock and root the RogPhone. I just got my new Rogphone 3 and I am trying to unlock the bootloader to root it and install Xprivacy mods to have a better control over of my privacy. Being a first timer I had certain questions that I wanted your answers on.
1. I am running software version WW_17.0823.2009.99.
2. I have unlocked my bootloader. That means I will not get OTA updates. Is there a way to side load and update these fixes?
3. How is ROM support for Rogphone in general? I get that this phone is relatively new and it will take some time to get other ROMs but I was wondering about the general trend
OTA updates not possible once bootloader is unlocked.
However, thereafter updating to the latest WW firmware is easy. Just download latest WW FW on to the root of Internal Storage folder of your phone (as is, don't change name); this file should be detected automatically and prompt you to update.
Custom ROM development for ROG3 is unfortunately non-existent at the moment. I hope this changes soon.
Ah! did not know this trick! Can I also use the TWRP to flash it? Will it be the same?
I am not sure about flashing WW .zip updates via TWRP on Android 10 (I don't think it's possible) - It's better to enquire in this forum's TWRP thread @ Captain_Throwback.

Would updating OTA make rooting harder?

Got a 781u1 ...would updating ota make rooting potentially harder if a rom were to come out?
how about if I gain root THEN update? would it undo root?
first thing is to check is whether you can unlock your bootloader, up until now the subject of rooting is moot if you can't, unless you get it unlocked as a paid service.
I'm not sure if updates will come while rooted, they won't if you flash TWRP. assuming they did come the boot.img most likely would be flashed on a major update breaking root.
you'd just have to extract and patch the boot.img again from a downloaded copy of the update and then flash that via Odin.

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