Camera2 API on the Moto G6 - Moto G6 Questions & Answers

Hi! I've been waiting for the Moto G-series to finally get proper Camera2 API support so 3rd party camera apps can access more manual controls like ISO and shutter speed. While the G5 still had poor Camera2 support, I was hoping that would change with the G6. So could someone with the Moto G6 run this free Camera2 test app "Camera2 probe" and post screen grabs of the results here? I'm mostly interested in the "Hardware level support category" - it would be fantastic if it came out "Full" or "Level 3" instead of "Legacy" like on the G5. Thanks!

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Thank you! Very good news!

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Request moto x pure edition/style camera

Is it possible for anyone to grab the camera from the 2015 moto x I like that manual exposure feature
I'd love to have that camera app on the nexus 6, that's the only thing I miss from the moto x
There will be a port soon enough. Read on another thread that someone is working on it.
In the meantime, Get Proshot off Playstore. It has all the features like manual exposure. As well as full 4k recording w/ manual focus as well. It eliminates the constant refocus crap that has plagued our device.
Peylix said:
There will be a port soon enough. Read on another thread that someone is working on it.
In the meantime, Get Proshot off Playstore. It has all the features like manual exposure. As well as full 4k recording w/ manual focus as well. It eliminates the constant refocus crap that has plagued our device.
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Thanks I'm going to try it now

Google Camera (HDR+) Port on Moto X4

As you guys know, camera performance on the Moto X4, put bluntly, has been less than stellar. Also of note: the Google Camera app (Auto HDR+) has been ported to multiple other Android devices, and it seems as though any device able to utilize the Camera2 API with a Hexagon DSP and Spectra ISP is compatible with the ported camera app. As of a few days ago, the Modded Google Camera ported apk was found to work with the Moto X4, as seen on Reddit in the links below:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectFi/...orted_hdr_pixel_camera_apk_works_for_moto_x4/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX4/comments/77vn3w/psa_google_camera_port_hdr_from_pixel_works_on_x4/
As discussed already, the performance of the Moto X4's camera with the port is much better all round (especially low-light photography) than it is with Motorola's own camera app, which is slow and lacks good processing. Now, listed on some of the posts of the Reddit links above (much more information on the matter there) are links to all of the different apks (some fully functioning, some as test versions, some that are manual and configurable) of the Ported Google Camera app; credits to developers B-S-G and Ivanich for making this possible. Mind you, the most stable apk (Ivanich v1.4 Full PXL2) is configured for the OnePlus 3 most natively, which doesn't seem to support as many newer features of the Google Camera app as the Moto X4 does. That said, if a more stable apk of the ported Google Camera app can be configured to best go along with the hardware of the Moto X4's camera (as has been done with the Xiaomi Mi A1), then for those who aren't concerned about using the secondary camera, there will be a viable option for much improved photography on the Moto X4 as well, that takes advantage of the hardware present more effectively. Again, much more detailed explanation of these concepts on Reddit, in the links provided above. I wanted to bring attention to this for those who are interested over here.
Only deficiency of the apk...
You have the option to delete photos while HDR+ is still processing them. If you do, it seems to get stuck in the notification bar. I don't know if this impacts anything, but just a note.
Great find! Mine comes in tomorrow, and I can't wait to try this out!
I wonder: is anybody working on configuring an apk better suited for the Moto X4's camera hardware, and/or is anyone willing to? As of right now, these are the config options that work most effectively on the Moto X4's hardware (as posted in the r/projectfi [1st] Reddit link):
Phone Model - Nexus 6P. All work here, but the 6P option seems to be the best in low light.
Config camera - Pixel 2017 Zsl HDR #1 and #2 options can crash the app (if you crash it, clear data/cache). All the others seem to work. ZSL is for HDR Auto mode. Pixel 2016 Zsl HDR is most optimal.
Buffers Size - 15 (optimal)
Note: this is the configurable mod below:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...GCB_7.0H_C2API_v.4.0_AllinOne_Full_Manual.apk
crazyates said:
Great find! Mine comes in tomorrow, and I can't wait to try this out!
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When you do try it out, if you can compare picture/video quality to the stock Motorola app, that'd be great, and something I suggest you do anyway to see how you feel about it.
Crashes
Anyone else seeing frequent crashes?
Update: These settings at least seem to keep my moto x4 from crashing for now. I usually can make them happen with some settings by force closing the camera app then starting it again.
Model - 6P
Config camera - Pixel 2017 Hardware Zsl (DR Dogfood)
Buffers size - 15 optimal
Total imagereader image coung - 14 (AllPixel+AllExp)
hdr+ burst frame count - 8 (nexus 6)
Calculation hdr+ image count - Pixel, PixelXL
dirtygreek said:
Anyone else seeing frequent crashes?
Update: These settings at least seem to keep my moto x4 from crashing for now. I usually can make them happen with some settings by force closing the camera app then starting it again.
Model - 6P
Config camera - Pixel 2017 Hardware Zsl (DR Dogfood)
Buffers size - 15 optimal
Total imagereader image coung - 14 (AllPixel+AllExp)
hdr+ burst frame count - 8 (nexus 6)
Calculation hdr+ image count - Pixel, PixelXL
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Those settings work well also, and don't have problems with crashing either.
Can someone please post some comparison shots with motocam vs gcam ? thanks
kraatus90 said:
Can someone please post some comparison shots with motocam vs gcam ? thanks
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See my pics Here.
crazyates said:
See my pics Here.
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Can you try this gcam mod ? set hdr+ to on. and shoot.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620761630
kraatus90 said:
Can you try this gcam mod ? set hdr+ to on. and shoot.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620761630
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That G5 camera crashes instantly when you open it. I'm not sure the G5 camera is the same one we have?
crazyates said:
That G5 camera crashes instantly when you open it. I'm not sure the G5 camera is the same one we have?
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No it's not the same , what you tried was probably gcam4.4 based, the apk i gave link to is based on gcam 4.2 arm version. anyway thanks for trying.
Update: the new Arnova8G2 manual gcam apk works for this device as well. From what I've been told, it provides a similar image quality with better color processing than other gcam ports, and better video quality. This is MUCH better performing in most every aspect that Motorola's stock app. It can be found in the first Reddit link in the original post in this thread (I'm the OP), or directly from here: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/. The Arnova8G2 manual mod is based off of a newer version of Gcam, that being 5.1.014 I believe, as opposed to 4.2.x, as the BSG and Ivanich mods are based off of.
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Update: the new Arnova8G2 manual gcam apk works for this device as well. From what I've been told, it provides a similar image quality with better color processing than other gcam ports, and better video quality. This is MUCH better performing in most every aspect that Motorola's stock app. It can be found in the first Reddit link in the original post in this thread (I'm the OP), or directly from here: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/. The Arnova8G2 manual mod is based off of a newer version of Gcam, that being 5.1.014 I believe, as opposed to 4.2.x, as the BSG and Ivanich mods are based off of.
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Thanks! I'll try it out.
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Thanks! I'll try it out.
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So far, how do you feel about the image and video quality with the updated version of this app? Also, how do you feel it stacks up against other devices that you've worked with in the past?
Just tried the newly released v9.1 version. Very impressive with low light indoors. Pictures came out looking like the room was well lit, when it was in fact dimly lit. Also, switching to 60fps on video provides a much brighter/clearer image.
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So far, how do you feel about the image and video quality with the updated version of this app? Also, how do you feel it stacks up against other devices that you've worked with in the past?
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I meant to try it out, but I haven't had the time. I was using the older version of the Gcam to record video at a wedding this past weekend: VERY dark lit dance floor with strobe/lights moving all around, and fast movement. Even at the brightest setting, it was still too dark to see almost anything. I know this is a worst case video scenario, but if the new apk improves video low-light, that would be great!
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I meant to try it out, but I haven't had the time. I was using the older version of the Gcam to record video at a wedding this past weekend: VERY dark lit dance floor with strobe/lights moving all around, and fast movement. Even at the brightest setting, it was still too dark to see almost anything. I know this is a worst case video scenario, but if the new apk improves video low-light, that would be great!
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The Arnova8G2 manual apk should improve the dark image of video in 30FPS, as seen with other mods.
TurboBot247 said:
The Arnova8G2 manual apk should improve the dark image of video in 30FPS, as seen with other mods.
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Need some help here, if you own Android one edition. can you share System/vendor/lib and lib64 folder ? you don't need root for it just copy those folder to internal storage and zip it. you can use free version of solid explorer for it. thanks.
i want to see if there's any difference between retail and android one edition regarding image post processing etc.
kraatus90 said:
Need some help here, if you own Android one edition. can you share System/vendor/lib and lib64 folder ? you don't need root for it just copy those folder to internal storage and zip it. you can use free version of solid explorer for it. thanks.
i want to see if there's any difference between retail and android one edition regarding image post processing etc.
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Nope, don't own one yet. There is no difference in image processing between the two, as they both run the same versions of Motorola's camera software and have the same hardware in tow as well; there'd be no reason for the app to process images differently on the regular version than on the Android One version. They both have poorly optimized camera software in common.

Manual Photography Options

I am using Camera FV-5 on my Moto G3 and on Samsung ON Nxt ,it is giving manual exposure option.But when i use it on Moto G5s+ it shows shutter speed priority. Is there any work around ? Any help regarding long exposure will be appreciated
Hi,
I don't think the hardware supports it, although i've tried that with 3rd party apps. Doesn't seem to work on this model.
max exposure time is 2 sec.
Sbk13 said:
Hi,
I don't think the hardware supports it, although i've tried that with 3rd party apps. Doesn't seem to work on this model.
max exposure time is 2 sec.
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I won't say that hardware wont support it because my 3 year old phone supports then its successor must support it.
Btw how do you get 2s exposure time?:cyclops:
Hi,
we are In year 2020. Do we have anything to increase shutter speed for long exposures, for Moto G5s Plus?

Plz Requesting cstark27 for new Google Camera app for Moto X4

Hello everyone. There is a developer named cstark27 in the xda forums. He has one LG V30 whose camera configuration is same as Moto X4 (having a wide angle setup). He's in active development of porting the GCAM to the normal as well as LG's wide-angle mobile.
So I would like everyone to request him (cstark 27) to develop a port for us (especially for the wide angle setup) this will help us to utilize our camera in a much better manner.
Also, mention him that our front camera just reads 4MP with all the ports of GCAM. It will be really awesome if we can utilize the 16MP option.
His profile link is: https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2712580
P.S. - I don't know how to tag him in this post. If anybody knows do tell me, please. It will help us and our communityty. Also if possible please tag other developers too. To get a list of developers visit the following page: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
Under the "Downloads" there is a section Devs (BSG,Arnova8G2,cstark27.......) , plz tag them to this post so that they help.
Thanks a lot.
Look at this mod:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/themes/root-camera-mod-moto-x4-t3777368
That's fine but it needs rooting right? I don't wanna root my mobile coz unlike xiaomi mobiles I can easily loose my warranty
I wished he me would make one for the x4 but haven't found one yet
ayonavo said:
That's fine but it needs rooting right? I don't wanna root my mobile coz unlike xiaomi mobiles I can easily loose my warranty
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Skogstoken said:
I wished he me would make one for the x4 but haven't found one yet
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http://celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
I just use this GCam version below. No root required.
Arnova's v7beta9
GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7beta-test-9.apk
As for the wide angle setup thing.. Come on.. who told you that the V30 and X4 have the same configuration? Just because they both have wide angle lens doesn't mean the hardware and configuration is similar. As for the GCam using 4MP only on the front camera... it is due to the fact that Motorola made this the default mode so the sensor size will increase to a very large 2 micron pixel. Hence, better in low/indoor lighting.
Better request Arnova instead of cstark27 because his work is more compatible to our phone.
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http://celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
I just use this GCam version below. No root required.
Arnova's v7beta9
GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7beta-test-9.apk
As for the wide angle setup thing.. Come on.. who told you that the V30 and X4 have the same configuration? Just because they both have wide angle lens doesn't mean the hardware and configuration is similar. As for the GCam using 4MP only on the front camera... it is due to the fact that Motorola made this the default mode so the sensor size will increase to a very large 2 micron pixel. Hence, better in low/indoor lighting.
Better request Arnova instead of cstark27 because his work is more compatible to our phone.
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Oh sorry, I know root isn't required. However as far as I know there's no Gcam port currently working with the wide angle lens of the Moto x4 but if you have found one that's great. I think the main request of this thread is to have a port that works with the wide angle and czstark is the one who brought it to the LG G6 and V30 if I understand everything correctly!

Moto G5s Plus correct camera sensor and chipset

Hello everyone!
Creating this thread in order to clarify some details about our device.
I recently bought it (Europe version-xt1085,3Gb RAM/32gb) but instead of a SD625 it has a SD626. How is it possible? And giving the fact that there are rumors that also note that our camera sensor is a Sony IMX 258 Bayer and not a samsung CMOS makes me doubt much of the initial information provided or found. Can somebody please post different screenshots from the first page of CPU-Z and also to check system/etc/camera for camera msm Sanders XML for those who have the device rooted? I do not want to root it yet as Oreo updates are rolling in a couple of days.
I also want to find a solution to exceed the limitations of the software processing of the camera to the full potential of the sensor (if it is a Sony one indeed).
Thank you
Also take a look at the attachment.
Ok
SD 626 too
Mine also says Snapdragon 626, it's a CPU-Z bug. But regarding the camera sensor I have no idea if there's any way to improve the image quality via modifying the image processing.
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SD 626 too
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Do you have a XT1085 or XT1084?
And could you please pull out the files i requested?
The ones in the camera foldee that write Msm sanders or so. The ones who show the real camera sensor.
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Mine also says Snapdragon 626, it's a CPU-Z bug. But regarding the camera sensor I have no idea if there's any way to improve the image quality via modifying the image processing.
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I checked with different applications. You might be right. It is very odd tho.
What about the camera files?
If you go to Moto G5 Plus's theming and modding forum, you'll see a thread explaining how. And how it gives rise to possibilities of other devices as well.
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I checked with different applications. You might be right. It is very odd tho.
What about the camera files?
If you go to Moto G5 Plus's theming and modding forum, you'll see a thread explaining how. And how it gives rise to possibilities of other devices as well.
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Mine is an XT1806, and it's not rooted so I don't think I can get those files. Let me see
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Do you have a XT1085 or XT1084?
And could you please pull out the files i requested?
The ones in the camera foldee that write Msm sanders or so. The ones who show the real camera sensor.
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XT1800 Latam
Aptony said:
XT1800 Latam
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I just checked the file. It shows S5K8L3 which unfortunately is a ****ty Samsung CMOS sensor. I don't think there is much to be done with this sensor. We're ****ed.
Sniper Killer said:
I just checked the file. It shows S5K8L3 which unfortunately is a ****ty Samsung CMOS sensor. I don't think there is much to be done with this sensor. We're ****ed.
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Btw I remember you from the Galaxy Ace i days
Aptony said:
Btw I remember you from the Galaxy Ace i days
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Wow that is so nice! And nostalgic. Its been a few years of my absence. I am back with this device now and it is intriguing me a lot to develop again. Currently waiting for the Oreo update and then I'll do my full research on the device.
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I just checked the file. It shows S5K8L3 which unfortunately is a ****ty Samsung CMOS sensor. I don't think there is much to be done with this sensor. We're ****ed.
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Are you sure thats not the selfie cam? Pretty sure the dual camera has been 100% confirmed a sony sensor already
(Link) This guy contacted moto directly and they said it was the IMX258 / IMX258 Mono
William1020000 said:
Are you sure thats not the selfie cam? Pretty sure the dual camera has been 100% confirmed a sony sensor already
(Link) This guy contacted moto directly and they said it was the IMX258 / IMX258 Mono
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You can see clearly the name S5K3L8 as the rear sensor (mono&rgb). And at the other screenshot, the name S5K4H8 which is a selfie samsung sensor. You can google both of these sensors and their details are going to match our device's details.
There are also two files of the IMX258 in the camera folder but they're useless or maybe they put it to fake the users who, like me and many more, would be pissed off if they found out what a crap of a sensor they would have in their device.
The dev of the camera improvements of G5 Plus told me that the only way of improving it is by copying the tuning of other S5K3L8 sensors used in other devices. But it is used in Xiaomi Redmi 4 and its camera is worse than ours so i don't think that is going to be a good idea. Another way actually is by modifying the libs yourself. Which i cannot do at the moment.
Just use Google Camera for taking pictures atm. Its HDR+ mode is a touch of magic.
Sniper Killer said:
You can see clearly the name S5K3L8 as the rear sensor (mono&rgb). And at the other screenshot, the name S5K4H8 which is a selfie samsung sensor. You can google both of these sensors and their details are going to match our device's details.
There are also two files of the IMX258 in the camera folder but they're useless or maybe they put it to fake the users who, like me and many more, would be pissed off if they found out what a crap of a sensor they would have in their device.
The dev of the camera improvements of G5 Plus told me that the only way of improving it is by copying the tuning of other S5K3L8 sensors used in other devices. But it is used in Xiaomi Redmi 4 and its camera is worse than ours so i don't think that is going to be a good idea. Another way actually is by modifying the libs yourself. Which i cannot do at the moment.
Just use Google Camera for taking pictures atm. Its HDR+ mode is a touch of magic.
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The only way to confirm properly is to look at the hardware. Any idea where we may be able to find images of just the Samsung camera module so I can compare it the the one in my G5S+?
To be honest I'm very happy with the way my HDR+ photos turn out.
My family are convinced this has a better camera than the iPhone SE from using gcam, so the phone must be somewhat capable of good photos Low light photos are crap though, tons of noise.
EDIT: Samsung specs say the S5K3L8 sensor is capable of only 30fps. Given we can record 1080p/60fps maybe it isn't that sensor?
That's strange, my g5s plus can only shoot 1080p/30fps. I don't know if it was after the latest camera update or not.
Edit: my mistake, apparently i was looking at the front camera settings. The rear camera can shot 1080p/60 just fine and are up to 30fps 4k
William1020000 said:
The only way to confirm properly is to look at the hardware. Any idea where we may be able to find images of just the Samsung camera module so I can compare it the the one in my G5S+?
To be honest I'm very happy with the way my HDR+ photos turn out.
My family are convinced this has a better camera than the iPhone SE from using gcam, so the phone must be somewhat capable of good photos Low light photos are crap though, tons of noise.
EDIT: Samsung specs say the S5K3L8 sensor is capable of only 30fps. Given we can record 1080p/60fps maybe it isn't that sensor?
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The samsung sensor is capable of shooting 4k videos but it is not enabled in most devices that are using it. For example in Xiaomi Redmi devices. I do not know precisely why and how but any speculation would bring no improvement to the camera whatsoever.

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