Newbie questions - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I understand that it is not possible to root Amazon Fire 8 HD 7th Gen running 5.6.2.0.
I assume that also means there is no way to install a custom more native stock android rom on these devices?
Would anyone be able to explain in simple terms what has Amazon done to these devices that makes it so hard to break so we can root and custom ROM them?
Thank you in advance

RonnieJorgensen said:
Hi all,
I understand that it is not possible to root Amazon Fire 8 HD 7th Gen running 5.6.2.0.
I assume that also means there is no way to install a custom more native stock android rom on these devices?
Would anyone be able to explain in simple terms what has Amazon done to these devices that makes it so hard to break so we can root and custom ROM them?
Thank you in advance
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Good coding and testing practices. Kudos to Amazon and Google for wringing out the 'slop' in Android and its derivatives which opened the door to root (and therefore security) exploits.

Custom rom
Just want to get it confirmed. if you have Amazon Fire 8 HD aor Fire 7, both 7th gen with Amazon's latest upgrade. 5.6.2 i think it is. is there any way to get a custom ROM on? for example [ROM][AOSP][LMY49M] Fire Nexus ROM [02 JUN 2018] ?
Not quite sure i understand correctly if i need to root it before I can custom rom it
Thx

RonnieJorgensen said:
Just want to get it confirmed. if you have Amazon Fire 8 HD aor Fire 7, both 7th gen with Amazon's latest upgrade. 5.6.2 i think it is. is there any way to get a custom ROM on? for example [ROM][AOSP][LMY49M] Fire Nexus ROM [02 JUN 2018] ?
Not quite sure i understand correctly if i need to root it before I can custom rom it
Thx
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The only Amazon tablet that can be rooted at the moment is the HD 10, 2017.

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2016 Fire 7 - Can it be rooted?

Hello all i just created an acc. because i'm interested in buying a fire 7 directly from amazon, so i think it will come with the newest software update, im not sure. So, i want to root it and install cm 13, can it still be done on 2016 models or should i look into another tablet? Thank you all.
JpaulNE said:
Hello all i just created an acc. because i'm interested in buying a fire 7 directly from amazon, so i think it will come with the newest software update, im not sure. So, i want to root it and install cm 13, can it still be done on 2016 models or should i look into another tablet? Thank you all.
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Really? 10 sec of research would have answered the root question; perhaps a couple minutes more for CM 13. No, I will not spoon feed your curiosity as you are obviously literate having composed the original post.
JpaulNE said:
Hello all i just created an acc. because i'm interested in buying a fire 7 directly from amazon, so i think it will come with the newest software update, im not sure. So, i want to root it and install cm 13, can it still be done on 2016 models or should i look into another tablet? Thank you all.
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Don't think 2016 models have even been announced yet...
Amazon Fire Tablet Specs https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
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If you receive a model with FireOs 5.3.1.0 then you are screwed.
If you receive a model with FireOs 5.1.2 -> 5.1.4 you can root and put custom ROM (Nexus, CM12.1, etc.). You will not be able to put CM13 as the bootloader of the Fire is locked and thus custom ROMs will be limited to Lollipop 5.1x
If you receive a model with older FireOs then you are even luckier because you may have access to a custom recovery on your fire that would ease installation of custom ROMs.
JpaulNE said:
Hello all i just created an acc. because i'm interested in buying a fire 7 directly from amazon, so i think it will come with the newest software update, im not sure. So, i want to root it and install cm 13, can it still be done on 2016 models or should i look into another tablet? Thank you all.
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Did you purchase the tablet? What version did it come with? And where did you buy it from?

Buying Amazon Fire now - CM question

Hi all,
I have a question regarding Amazon Fire 7. If I buy it today on Amazon (Fire Tablet with Alexa 7 inch $49.99) and do not power it on at all / do not update the firmware, what Fire OS version/firmware does it come with? Can I install CyanogenMod on it? Thanks!
kpdeepu said:
Hi all,
I have a question regarding Amazon Fire 7. If I buy it today on Amazon (Fire Tablet with Alexa 7 inch $49.99) and do not power it on at all / do not update the firmware, what Fire OS version/firmware does it come with? Can I install CyanogenMod on it? Thanks!
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- root is a prerequisite for installing a custom ROM
- likely 5.3.2.1 or 5.3.3.x which are not rootabl at present
- CM is available but no longer being maintained; best option is Fire Nexus
Thank you, so does that mean a brand new fire tablet bought today is not rootable at all?
kpdeepu said:
Thank you, so does that mean a brand new fire tablet bought today is not rootable at all?
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Likely, but not a forgone conclusion. Amazon sometimes ships out older stock sporting earlier builds of FireOS (<5.3.2.1) that can still be rooted. Typically those devices automatically update themselves to the latest version of FireOS when powered up - but that behavior can be blocked.
Devices acquired through Amazon Warehouse are more likely to come with an older version of FireOS. Of course, there are no guarantees.
I just bought a fire tablet 16gb ($59.99) yesterday (5/2/17) at best buy and it came with OS ver 5.1.3 which auto updated itself to 5.1.4 only and nothing higher (thank goodness). Was able to downgrade to 5.1.2 and achieve root.
So I guess your just going to have to purchase one and hope it comes with FireOS <5.3.2.1. Good Luck!

FireOS 6 based on Nougat/7 announced

Is it possible for those of us on rooted devices we can get Android 7 custom ROM?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/09/29/amazon-quietly-announces-fire-os-6-based-android-nougat/
xenokc said:
Is it possible for those of us on rooted devices we can get Android 7 custom ROM?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/09/29/amazon-quietly-announces-fire-os-6-based-android-nougat/
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Not unless the bootloader get's unlocked. I am not holding my breath on this. If I were to bet, I'd say it won't be available unless you have a 7th generation tablet. At least that's my take.
i hope fire os 6 will be on fire 7thgen
laharl_22 said:
i hope fire os 6 will be on fire 7thgen
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I personally don't like Nougat. There's no official Xposed and even the unofficial ones aren't that good as most modules don't work. My Galaxy S7 is on Marshmallow and my two Amazon tablets and my XT907 are on Lollipop. I'm happy with that. If only KitKat wasn't so old, I'd keep or put everything on that version.

how would I root and install a room on 5.1.1?

If my fire 7 2017 was in os version 5.1.1 how would I root it and install a custom ROM? Could I use kingroot?
jakiejohnson said:
If my fire 7 2017 was in os version 5.1.1 how would I root it and install a custom ROM? Could I use kingroot?
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There is no FireOS 5.1.1 for 7th gen (2017) Fire 7 devices. If you have 5.1.1 it's likely a 5th gen. Use the SuperTool to root, block OTA and perform other useful functions prior to installing a custom ROM.
jakiejohnson said:
If my fire 7 2017 was in os version 5.1.1 how would I root it and install a custom ROM? Could I use kingroot?
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You probably mixed the versions of Android (lollipop 5.1.1) and fireOS (5.some.more.numbers). Since the first one is identical for all versions of fireOS for this device, please only use the latter one.
Yet there's no known root method for 5.3.2.1 and later.
My kindle fire 7 came with 5.0.1 thats why
jakiejohnson said:
My kindle fire 7 came with 5.0.1 thats why
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Answered (conceptually) in another thread. Almost certainly a 5th gen (2015) Fire vs 7th gen (2017) Fire 7.

Which Fire Tablets Are Rootable and Have Custom Roms?

If I buy a Fire tablet from Amazon now, which ones are rootable and have custom roms?
Is there a thread that keeps a list of fire devices that are currently rootable, and which ones have custom roms?
Thanks!
You'd preferably want to find a 5th gen Fire. They have ROM support and can be rooted (make sure to keep it on a semi-old version though before trying to root)
TheKindleMCPEGuy said:
You'd preferably want to find a 5th gen Fire. They have ROM support and can be rooted (make sure to keep it on a semi-old version though before trying to root)
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Thanks for the reply.
Is none of the 6th or 7th gen rootable or have custom roms for them?
jl303 said:
Thanks for the reply.
Is none of the 6th or 7th gen rootable or have custom roms for them?
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I can't speak for 6th gen obviously since I haven't owned one. 7th gen, not yet. If you buy a 7th gen you will probably have to wait... some time (a long time).
Confirmed Root (I own these devices)
Fire 7: Root available on those devices with Fire OS 5.3.1 or earlier
Kindle 8.9: Root, bootloader unlocked, flashed with TWRP. All versions of that tablet are rootable. This is my favorite tablet.
HD 10: I can confirm, as of today, (I just bought the HD 10) is rootable as early as FireOS 5.4.1.0
DragonFire1024 said:
Confirmed Root (I own these devices)
Fire 7: Root available on those devices with Fire OS 5.3.1 or earlier
Kindle 8.9: Root, bootloader unlocked, flashed with TWRP. All versions of that tablet are rootable. This is my favorite tablet.
HD 10: I can confirm, as of today, (I just bought the HD 10) is rootable as early as FireOS 5.4.1.0
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guide on how to rool the fire 7 and down grade it for the 7th gen
ts gaming said:
guide on how to rool the fire 7 and down grade it for the 7th gen
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There is no root for the Fire 7, (7th generation, 2017) yet.
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Will there be a chance for unlocking the Bootloader of Fire HD 10 any time soon? LineageOS would be really nice to have!
cRaZy-bisCuiT said:
Will there be a chance for unlocking the Bootloader of Fire HD 10 any time soon? LineageOS would be really nice to have!
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Almost zero. Last successful bootloader unlock was on 3rd gen (2013) HDX. Very difficult nut to crack.
Davey126 said:
Almost zero. Last successful bootloader unlock was on 3rd gen (2013) HDX. Very difficult nut to crack.
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So I should crack the bootloader and you guys make it treble compatible?
cRaZy-bisCuiT said:
So I should crack the bootloader and you guys make it treble compatible?
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Toss in a dual hyper-clocked octa-core, Android Z preview and an integrated Nutriblast Pro 9000 while we're in there.

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