I was looking at your and my favorite website for Chinese tablet accessory export, Ankaka. There, I found the following rather... interesting little tablet for sale, the HoneyTab H3:
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My first question is, "What the hell is this?"
In the land of generic crap knockoffs, it truly stands out, but not beyond its generic crap status. It does have a Tegra2 1GHz dual core processor and rather decent specs overall, until you get down to the part where it only has a measly 512 MB of internal memory. According to specifications, there is a "TF Card Slot," but no "SD Card Slot." I don't understand what this means, but it could signify that the card slot only supports micro SD cards that are only up to 4 GB capacity and not the newer micro SDHC cards that can hold up to 32 GB. If this is the case, the tablet is still garbage, even with all of the other impressive specs it carries.
It comes with a Honeycomb-based ROM that can't run the stupid tablet's own camera, and it only has a crippled version of Flash 10.2 that can only play video like YouTube in a full screen window.
Now I wouldn't buy it, as if I were willing to spend $415 plus shipping, I'd might as well go a bit higher and get a Galaxy 10.1. Really, I'm just curious as to how such a thing exists. Many generic knockoff tablets seem to be uniformly crappy, but this is rather nice looking except for a couple spots that make it completely not worth buying.
I want to use it to store apps/music+pictures/nandroid backups, so what SD is best for me to use? preferably 32gb+ and under 25€
Sharp852 said:
I want to use it to store apps/music+pictures/nandroid backups, so what SD is best for me to use? preferably 32gb+ and under 25€
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I would buy the Samsung Evo plus UHS-I. Seems to be the best value:
Samsung EVO+ https://www.amazon.es/dp/B00WIMC5IS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_DDWoybBKQVG6F
Samsung SD works fine for me, as well. And I've also been happy with Sandisk in the past as well (Samsung just happened to be cheaper).
Are you talking adoptable storage or removable? The speed requirement is higher with adoptable. You'll want to get the fastest SD card you can for adoptable storage, possibly even the Samsung PRO+.
If you're talking removable storage, for the things you mentioned (photos, nandroid backups), speed rating are probably not too relevant. That is, as long as its Class 10 or UHS1 or faster - and there are many affordable options these days, that its probably not even worth looking at SD lower than Class 10 (and in fact you won't find many options in lower speed classes). The UHS1 rating on the Samsung EVO+ as well as the EVO should be fine. Taking video would probably be the most intensive thing you can do with SD, and the Samsung EVO works fine for me doing that. Not sure about putting apps on the SD. But if its designed to be on removable storage, I don't think its too terribly speed dependent.
redpoint73 said:
Samsung SD works fine for me, as well. And I've also been happy with Sandisk in the past as well (Samsung just happened to be cheaper).
Are you talking adoptable storage or removable? The speed requirement is higher with adoptable. You'll want to get the fastest SD card you can for adoptable storage, possibly even the Samsung PRO+.
If you're talking removable storage, for the things you mentioned (photos, nandroid backups), speed rating are probably not too relevant. That is, as long as its Class 10 or UHS1 or faster - and there are many affordable options these days, that its probably not even worth looking at SD lower than Class 10 (and in fact you won't find many options in lower speed classes). The UHS1 rating on the Samsung EVO+ as well as the EVO should be fine. Taking video would probably be the most intensive thing you can do with SD, and the Samsung EVO works fine for me doing that. Not sure about putting apps on the SD. But if its designed to be on removable storage, I don't think its too terribly speed dependent.
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Well,what would you recommend to me? I will more likely also store apps there,so?
So what is minimal req for adoptable storage? What are best budget SDs for that one? PRO+
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Sharp852 said:
Well,what would you recommend to me? I will more likely also store apps there,so?
So what is minimal req for adoptable storage? What are best budget SDs for that one? PRO+
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I don't use adoptable storage, so all I can tell you, is what I've read from searching.
Class 10 or UHS-1 seems to be the recommended minimum rating. But I've read to buy the fastest you can afford, to minimize performance slowdowns. One website specifically mentioned possibly using PRO+ (can't find it right now). But the info doesn't seem definitive.
I see Samsung also has PRO Select, and I'm not sure if there is a difference between that and PRO+. They both have 95 MB/s read, 90 MB/s write. I'm seeing the Amazon US site doesn't have a lot of PRO+ in stock, but they have PRO Select in 32GB for $25 US. So possibly the PRO Select is just a new branding of the PRO+?
The branding is confusing, to say the least: EVO, EVO+, EVO Select, PRO, PRO+, PRO Select.
redpoint73 said:
I don't use adoptable storage, so all I can tell you, is what I've read from searching.
Class 10 or UHS-1 seems to be the recommended minimum rating. But I've read to buy the fastest you can afford, to minimize performance slowdowns. One website specifically mentioned possibly using PRO+ (can't find it right now). But the info doesn't seem definitive.
I see Samsung also has PRO Select, and I'm not sure if there is a difference between that and PRO+. They both have 95 MB/s read, 90 MB/s write. I'm seeing the Amazon US site doesn't have a lot of PRO+ in stock, but they have PRO Select in 32GB for $25 US. So possibly the PRO Select is just a new branding of the PRO+?
The branding is confusing, to say the least: EVO, EVO+, EVO Select, PRO, PRO+, PRO Select.
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The Select is the newest. But I believe they are equal in terms of performance http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/reviews/sd-cards/samsung-pro-select-64gb-micro-sdxc-memory-card/
i am using strontium nitro 64gb , its superb sd card..
excellent read/write speed, maybe you can go for it,
and contrary i can suggest you 128gb sandisk sdcard too. waiting for its price cut
I am hoping to pump some new life into this thread. I am curious if anyone has used or tested a 200+ gig sd card for our phone as this guy is suggesting will work. Wouldn't mind upgrading but dont want to drop the loot before someone has confirmed maybe with a screen shot that it works.
http://www.ilovememorycards.com/htc-one-m8-memory-card.html
I have Samsung Evo+ 128GB in my M8 No problem with it in M8
panki_86 said:
I have Samsung Evo+ 128GB in my M8 No problem with it in M8
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Can you please do a speed test?
Cheers
Badelhas said:
Can you please do a speed test?
Cheers
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Here is a test
Thanks!
63MB/s read and 18MB/s write? Seems low, dosent it?
Cheers
It's ok for me. I paid for it 29 euros
panki_86 said:
It's ok for me. I paid for it 29 euros
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Your right. And the limitation must be with the M8. If you do that test on the HTC 10 the results should be much better.
Here's a screenshot of my benchmark. I use an old Samsung 32gb class 10 card.
Cheers
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
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No, real world performance will not be impacted by the 2 GB extra RAM. 8 GB of RAM would come in handy only if you are running so many intensive applications with some game playing side by side which is unlikely. That Extra RAM is kinda future proofing but it's a "distant" one, I would say. That nand flash storage speed is significantly higher than an SD card, but if 128 gigs internal is enough for you, it's not worth making that extra big hole in your pockets imo.
OutCastedSheep said:
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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Though it's shown with an asterisk, it's clearly mentioned in the "Performance" section of Note 9 that,
6 GB/128 GB only.
8 GB/512 GB only.
indicating if you are buying the 512 GB storage model then it has to be the 8 GB RAM variant.
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-note9/performance/
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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What are you talking about the US version doesn't come with the 8 gig of RAM? Did you watch the unpacking event which was US base?
US carriers already have the 8 gig of RAM version priced out
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They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
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force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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If there was a 256gb 8gb version I would have ordered that thing at midnight
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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Agreed man. The 512GB storage is way overkill. Wish I could get the 8GB RAM with the lesser storage. I just cant justify the extra 250$ for an extra 2GB of RAM. (Yeah, I know you get the extra storage too, but I have no need for that.) Sigh. Likely, I will only keep this for 1 year anyways, so I don't worry about "future-proofing".
My thought is on all the speed tests, the 8GB version will be faster, but in real world performance, it most likely will not matter at all. Maybe in Dex mode, if you are using it as a PC? But otherwise, I doubt anyone would notice much of a performance difference.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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drmacrofish said:
This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
bat0nas said:
People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
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Most likely will be the same unless you are getting closer to filling the 128 GB drive.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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Yes usually the way more storage is added is by adding more storage chips inside, and they are usually arranged in parallel. So this opens up more read/write channels for the system to use simultaneously. So there should be a real world performance gain there.
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
nizmoz said:
You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
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You're right, thanks.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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If the improvements that 6gb had over 4gb are anything to go by, I'd say it's worth it.
I'm hoping Linux on Galaxy/Dex arrives soon, perhaps that is the reasoning behind it, especially for things like android studio.
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
djinn415 said:
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
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For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
Virgo_Guy said:
For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
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I'm not so sure that will matter when it comes to multitasking. Android has a default of the amount of things that can be stored in RAM at the same time. It's also time based, meaning that after x amount of time, that active data is not stored anymore. At least that's how it ran last time I app developed for myself.
Now if Samsung engineered their way around that with the Note 9, that would be fantastic. The other issue or obstacle is that apps would need to actually support that feature. Some of them currently don't support backgrounding over an extended period of time, but I do believe the usual memory and data hog suspects do. Facebook, Snapchat, etc.
Ya know, I just realized it's been almost two years since I developed on Android. Wow! Take what I said up there with a giant Grand Canyon grain of salt.
There will be a slight performance boost in Antutu or other benchmark apps, u can not feel it.
I have the 8gb 512 model. And if I go to ram settings it says I only have 4.8 ram left over. It's brand new. No new apps or games. So my guess is if you have the 6gb version. You will probably only have like 3 or less to work with. I'm confused on why this is. Can someone enlighten me please?
Hello
I noticed that my Tab S8+ is getting a bit sluggish so I thought I'd check the memory after rebooting. I bought the Tab S8+ 256GB 5G model which was supposed to come with 8GB of RAM. It looks like mine has 4GB of physical memory but another 4GB using "Memory Plus".
Surely this is a scam and therefore not legal.
Am I the only one? Should I take this to trading standards?
thecrater said:
Hello
I noticed that my Tab S8+ is getting a bit sluggish so I thought I'd check the memory after rebooting. I bought the Tab S8+ 256GB 5G model which was supposed to come with 8GB of RAM. It looks like mine has 4GB of physical memory but another 4GB using "Memory Plus".
Surely this is a scam and therefore not legal.
Am I the only one? Should I take this to trading standards?
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I'd be careful about making assumptions about what you consider legal. It is true that many companies toe the line when it comes to false advertising.
In this case, Samsung is using some of the storage as RAM; they're doing this because volatile RAM is fairly expensive and power hungry, whereas NVRAM is cheaper and does not require power to maintain its state. It's essentially the same thing as a paging file in Windows. There's no scam, it's just a marketing gimmick, albeit a technically inaccurate one.
On my SM-X808U, it is called RAM Plus and it is user adjustable between 2 GB and 8. It does not affect the amount of installed memory which is 8GB.
Where did you see 4+4? It's 8+4. Just disable the memory plus, it's easily doable with one ui 5.
Download aida64 before you say it's scam. Since that app registers after how much RAM is installed. For me it says 16GB LPDDR5. Then you have RAM plus to extend ram even more, by using storage.
Mine is a s8 ultra