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Look-at-screen feature?

So, I was paging through the settings on the X at a store and noticed something I haven't yet seen mentioned - the ability for the device to remain on so long as the user continued to look at the screen. Additionally, you could have the screen shut off and lock more quickly than normal if the user looked away from the device. How is this working for you all?

floepie said:
So, I was paging through the settings on the X at a store and noticed something I haven't yet seen mentioned - the ability for the device to remain on so long as the user continued to look at the screen. Additionally, you could have the screen shut off and lock more quickly than normal if the user looked away from the device. How is this working for you all?
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it actually works. like I looked away, and when I looked back, my screen turned dim (about to turn off) but it saw I was looking at it and undimmed itself. pretty cool to me

Yes, works pretty fine for me too [emoji4]

I read about this, I believe it's referred to as "Attentive Display". If i'm not wrong it uses the IR sensors as opposed to the front camera like some other manufacturers. Great to know it works!

If yuo use the training guide, you see the funcion.
It seems to use the front camera to see your face.
It works good in many condition, not during night.

Is this feature on by default? It would seem that using the camera at all times would spend a bit of energy.

I believe it uses the IR sensors rather than the camera. Reason being that I've compared my battery life with the feature turned on and off, and there's no difference to speak of. Having the camera on to track your face would consume a fair amount of battery and would've shown up in Settings>Battery as well.
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HAXTREME said:
I believe it uses the IR sensors rather than the camera. Reason being that I've compared my battery life with the feature turned on and off, and there's no difference to speak of. Having the camera on to track your face would consume a fair amount of battery and would've shown up in Settings>Battery as well.
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If so, there would be no difference in performance in the dark, which contradicts the above poster's story.

floepie said:
If so, there would be no difference in performance in the dark, which contradicts the above poster's story.
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tbh, its pretty hit and miss most of the time. Even the Moto demo requires your head to be at a particular position vis a vis the screen for it to show up as a detect. I'd still maintain its the sensors, but I could very well be incorrect.

[Q] double tap to wake...

Are there any ROMs or kernels that support double tap to wake?
I know there is a button on the front of the phone, but after using it dt2w for so long it's a natural feeling now. Plus it saves on the hardware buttons.

codya321 said:
Are there any ROMs or kernels that support double tap to wake?
I know there is a button on the front of the phone, but after using it dt2w for so long it's a natural feeling now. Plus it saves on the hardware buttons.
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I know exactly how you feel. I had an m8 prior to my Note 4 and an LG G2 before that and tapping the screen to turn it on or off is so deeply ingrained in me that not having tap to wake is still super weird almost two months down the line. The loss is felt constantly. Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, no one has baked the feature into one of their kernels yet. I've seen one or two other posts asking about this and both times the bulk of the replies were of the opinion that since we have the hardware button tap2wake is a useless feature, which I couldn't disagree with more. The lack of interest makes me fear we won't be gaining the ability back anytime soon, but I really hope I'm wrong. I love my N4, but I love it substantially less than I otherwise would if I could tap on and off, however silly that sounds.

6 vs 6T

Anyone here thought about returning your 6T for a 6? I've been really considering this because I feel I'm losing more hardware with the 6T.
1. Iffy fingerprint sensor over a perfect one
2. No more led notification.
3. No more headphone jack
To me the only real gain is the battery. The whole notch/screen thing is not a big deal.

jayjay1234 said:
Anyone here thought about returning your 6T for a 6? I've been really considering this because I feel I'm losing more hardware with the 6T.
1. Iffy fingerprint sensor over a perfect one
2. No more led notification.
3. No more headphone jack
To me the only real gain is the battery. The whole notch/screen thing is not a big deal.
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I love the headphone jack, but I traded in my OnePlus One, so I'll just make do. I didn't even realize I was losing the LED notification, but I personally don't care too much because sometimes waiting for a pulse on the phone is the same as waking your phone anyways.
From what I've seen, the fingerprint is definitely slower, but on the case of it being iffy, I think that depends on the setup. I personally prefer a fingerprint sensor on the front.

hidelater said:
I love the headphone jack, but I traded in my OnePlus One, so I'll just make do. I didn't even realize I was losing the LED notification, but I personally don't care too much because sometimes waiting for a pulse on the phone is the same as waking your phone anyways.
From what I've seen, the fingerprint is definitely slower, but on the case of it being iffy, I think that depends on the setup. I personally prefer a fingerprint sensor on the front.
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Turning the phone on without picking the phone is great and one reason wanted the 6T. I even register the same finger twice but ehhh...

jayjay1234 said:
Turning the phone on without picking the phone is great and one reason wanted the 6T. I even register the same finger twice but ehhh...
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I hated losing the ability to just press the fingerprint sensor as well. You can turn on tap-to-wake so you just gotta tap the screen a couple times to get in (tap to wake -> tap for fingerprint sensor), instead of picking it up and pressing a button first.

Nah, it's just a matter of personal preference.

jayjay1234 said:
Anyone here thought about returning your 6T for a 6? I've been really considering this because I feel I'm losing more hardware with the 6T.
1. Iffy fingerprint sensor over a perfect one
2. No more led notification.
3. No more headphone jack
To me the only real gain is the battery. The whole notch/screen thing is not a big deal.
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And if you live in the US and have Verizon the 6 is not an option.

tech_head said:
And if you live in the US and have Verizon the 6 is not an option.
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Your right. Non TMobile 6T can work with more carriers. Although I've been with ATT for a bit now always nice to know there's options.

jayjay1234 said:
Your right. Non TMobile 6T can work with more carriers. Although I've been with ATT for a bit now always nice to know there's options.
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The T-Mobile can work with just as many as the unlocked once the sim is unlocked. Same hardware, same bands, etc.

Dameon87 said:
The T-Mobile can work with just as many as the unlocked once the sim is unlocked. Same hardware, same bands, etc.
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Nice! Thanks for the clarification.

jayjay1234 said:
Anyone here thought about returning your 6T for a 6? I've been really considering this because I feel I'm losing more hardware with the 6T.
1. Iffy fingerprint sensor over a perfect one
2. No more led notification.
3. No more headphone jack
To me the only real gain is the battery. The whole notch/screen thing is not a big deal.
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1. I hated having fingerprint sensor on the back always looking/searching when I need to log in to diverse apps. Only time I miss it is when I pull my phone out of pocket and used to touch back sensor to turn the phone on. But I double tap it now.
2. Yes, no led notifications was disappointing but most other phones are losing it. However, app called pixel pulse solved the problem, and it's actually now better then notification LED.
3. I rarely used headphone jack. Why would you want to have cord dangling around? Isn't it annoying? I stopped using corded headphones long time ago and have Bluetooth earbuds everywhere if needed.
4. Smaller notch allows for more notifications.
5. Better sounding speaker.
6. Base option comes with128GB space.
7. Larger capacity battery.
I certainly dislike where phone industry is going. Removing essentials like notification LED, headphone jack, larger narrower screens? But it's what nearly everyone is making these days. It would be nice if OnePlus does something like Google and has 2 versions, one smaller 5.5 inch 16:9 screen, and this one 6.4+with same specifications (except battery).

Just Curious :)

I planned to use Mi 9T Pro. As we know, Amoled screen had an issue called "Burn In/Shadow". Should I worry about this?

0xFast said:
I planned to use Mi 9T Pro. As we know, Amoled screen had an issue called "Burn In/Shadow". Should I worry about this?
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Nope ! It has the burn In protection.
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Sukhi said:
Nope ! It has the burn In protection.
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Wow, it's a good news. Btw, can you give me something about 'Mi 9T Screen Burn Protection'? Because I can't find about these news.

0xFast said:
Wow, it's a good news. Btw, can you give me something about 'Mi 9T Screen Burn Protection'? Because I can't find about these news.
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There's no burn in. While earlier OLED models had some issues regarding burn in, now the majority of flagships and even midrange devices have OLED panels and no burn in occurs.
There isn't too much protection needed to be fair. Even after years of usage you will not encounter any burn in. You mostly see burn in on panels that display the same thing for a very long time, meaning the pixels don't shut down or display other colors (e.g. TVs that run the same channel for a very long time).
There is protection on the Always on display. You'll notice the clock and notifications switch from one place to another every few minutes to avoid displaying the same pixels.
Burn in should be the least of your worries.

flavius222 said:
There's no burn in. While earlier OLED models had some issues regarding burn in, now the majority of flagships and even midrange devices have OLED panels and no burn in occurs.
There isn't too much protection needed to be fair. Even after years of usage you will not encounter any burn in. You mostly see burn in on panels that display the same thing for a very long time, meaning the pixels don't shut down or display other colors (e.g. TVs that run the same channel for a very long time).
There is protection on the Always on display. You'll notice the clock and notifications switch from one place to another every few minutes to avoid displaying the same pixels.
Burn in should be the least of your worries.
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Well, you make me confused. So, should be the least of my worries?

0xFast said:
Well, you make me confused. So, should be the least of my worries?
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I meant when searching for a phone in general. There are other, more important factors that this.

flavius222 said:
I meant when searching for a phone in general. There are other, more important factors that this.
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Nice advice, thanks.

My worries
0xFast said:
I planned to use Mi 9T Pro. As we know, Amoled screen had an issue called "Burn In/Shadow". Should I worry about this?
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When i went to their retail shops i saw that most the 9t models they had on display had visible burn - in marks on the screen, this made me reluctant to buy the phone and i dont know what to think.

Florian_cirstea said:
When i went to their retail shops i saw that most the 9t models they had on display had visible burn - in marks on the screen, this made me reluctant to buy the phone and i dont know what to think.
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Seriously on the store?

0xFast said:
I planned to use Mi 9T Pro. As we know, Amoled screen had an issue called "Burn In/Shadow". Should I worry about this?
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Don't worry about burnin unless you do something silly like increasing the display sleep time to half an hour or always keeping it in an unlock state. Use dark mode, 2 min timeout max, will be fine.
For every phone I've owned with an LCD/OLED display, I've experienced none. Yet when I use other people's phones of the same model, they have burn-in.
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The only difference between me and others is that I always dim the screen. Never use on high brightness, unless in the sun.

Florian_cirstea said:
When i went to their retail shops i saw that most the 9t models they had on display had visible burn - in marks on the screen, this made me reluctant to buy the phone and i dont know what to think.
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Can you take a picture(s) of that burn in you saw because I never saw single one Mi 9T Pro/Redmi K20 Pro with burn in? I want to see where on screen it happens and how it looks. Thank you.

MnMchill said:
Can you take a picture(s) of that burn in you saw because I never saw single one Mi 9T Pro/Redmi K20 Pro with burn in? I want to see where on screen it happens and how it looks. Thank you.
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mi9t pro after 3 years of using..

Led color notification pixel 4xl

Dear Friends ,
Do this smartphone have the led notification like pixel 2xl ?

No, there is no notification LED

Looks like AOD for now...

That's already more than OP can say ?

That's something I'd really miss about my Pixel 2 XL.
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galaxys said:
Looks like AOD for now...
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That really sucks since AOD uses a lot more battery. If basically causes the phone to burn an additional 1% per hour when in stand by.

jimv1983 said:
That's something I'd really miss about my Pixel 2 XL.
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That really sucks since AOD uses a lot more battery. If basically causes the phone to burn an additional 1% per hour when in stand by.
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WHich they have managed on the Pixel 4 with motion sense. If it detects you move away from phone it turns of AOD to save battery

lywyn said:
WHich they have managed on the Pixel 4 with motion sense. If it detects you move away from phone it turns of AOD to save battery
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Exactly. Pretty sure Google thought of everything on this device. The software may need some tuning, but that's it. The framework is solid

lywyn said:
WHich they have managed on the Pixel 4 with motion sense. If it detects you move away from phone it turns of AOD to save battery
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That may be true. Although we still don't know how much power the motion sense sensor uses. The motion sense senor is basically radar. It's sending out radio waves and detecting what comes back. That takes power too. It's possible that the motion sense sensor always running will use just as much battery than AOD does. It could even use MORE battery than AOD.

Hi guys ,
It's only a my opinion ,
but pay for pixel 3xl and 4xl 900 / 1000 euro and missing led notification , It's a big problem , I love that small light.

ZeroKool76 said:
Pretty sure Google thought of everything on this device.
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LOL! I agree with most of what I've seen you post, but this? C'mon. Google consistently misses things when their phones are first released. Google routinely does not think of everything, at least not at first launch anyway. Often times they only seem to be aware of issues after hundred of users report on it.
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sharkie405 said:
LOL! I agree with most of what I've seen you post, but this? C'mon. Google consistently misses things when their phones are first released. Google routinely does not think of everything, at least not at first launch anyway. Often times they only seem to be aware of issues after hundred of users report on it.
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I loled when i read that to. I was just telling my friend who works at Verizon and is trying to get me to upgrade that ill wait till people get it in hand as pixels are known to have phone breaking bugs at launch lol

I go through a lot of phones and all had problems, some of them never got fixed. I'm doubtful this phone will be any different than every phone before it in that regard. AOD uses power, no lie, I like it so I leave it on. Turning it off is no answer, I get that. What I don't get is turning off all the cool features a phone has to save batt when charging is everywhere, it's quick, and portable supplies are cheap, work well, and will get you through a pinch. This phone will likely have 4 or more hours without skimping on anything. To me the win is playing with the toys I bought, not gimping them to save battery life which can be easily and well covered.
This isn't a call out BTW, I just don't understand the thought process.

having an LED notification light is better than not having one. There's plenty of room. The Pixel 4 has a lower screen to body ratio than the S8. And while the S8 has an annoying curved screen, it has an LED notification light. It can coexist with an AOD. You can turn one off and use the other. Just like the headphone jack argument IMO. And the LED notification light is just so useful. It's a shame that app that lets you customise it got neutered by Google's updates to Android.
Oh and it sucks that there isn't an SD card either. It makes sense to companies as they can push paid cloud storage but not to customers.

raccoon123 said:
Oh and it sucks that there isn't an SD card either. It makes sense to companies as they can push paid cloud storage but not to customers.
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Doesn't make sense to add as card support, as this still is a hack - as has been on Linux based systems for years - and thus a security risk. It actually doesn't make any sense to add a hack to my system. Just my 2 cents.
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jimv1983 said:
That may be true. Although we still don't know how much power the motion sense sensor uses. The motion sense senor is basically radar. It's sending out radio waves and detecting what comes back. That takes power too. It's possible that the motion sense sensor always running will use just as much battery than AOD does. It could even use MORE battery than AOD.
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I don't think there motion sensor uses much power at all. I fully charged me phone before I went to bed last night and left it off the charger overnight. It only used 4% battery over 9 hours.

airmaxx23 said:
I don't think there motion sensor uses much power at all. I fully charged me phone before I went to bed last night and left it off the charger overnight. It only used 4% battery over 9 hours.
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Well that's good news. That stand by time is better than I thought it would be with the radar sensor but still not what I got from my Pixel 2 XL when it was new. I dropped about 2-3% over 8 hours. Even now after 2 years I still only see about 4% over 8 hours.