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Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
larryvand said:
Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
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You're not the only one. I have a 2013 LG TV (LN5700) and auto power does not work. Same setup as you-- Inputs are correctly switched but the darn display won't turn on.
I'm not sure whether the problem is with the Chromecast itself or the display as I don't have any other HDMI-CEC devices to test with.
I have an LG LM4700, and my AVR with CEC control never turned on/off my tv, but my tv would turn my AVR on/off.
I read on a forum post somewhere (take with a grain of salt) that LG didn't fully implement the full HDMI-CEC spec with SIMPLINK.
SkitchBeatz said:
You're not the only one. I have a 2013 LG TV (LN5700) and auto power does not work. Same setup as you-- Inputs are correctly switched but the darn display won't turn on.
I'm not sure whether the problem is with the Chromecast itself or the display as I don't have any other HDMI-CEC devices to test with.
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I also have an LG BP530 a Blu-Ray player which also has Simplink (HDMI-CEC). With both the TV and the Blu-Ray player OFF, pushing the front play button of the Blu-Ray player, turns the blu-player ON, turns the TV ON, switches to the right input and plays the DVD. In other words the Simplink (HDMI-CEC) protocol as implemented by LG for all their LG devices WORKS.
I'm thinking that HDMI-CEC may be a "standard" but every OEM has only tested their implementation with their own stuff. That is why each OEM uses a different name (Anynet+, bravia link/sync, simplink, Ratga link, etc...) instead of HDMI-CEC. I bet if you put the HDMI signal through a scope and try to isolate the control signals you will find that from each OEM they are just a tad different (maybe a bit longer pulse..).
Google could fix this in firmware of course but they will have to test for each brand individually and in the end possibly they will have to have an option to select the type of TV the user has for the differences in HDMI-CEC implementations. Either that or each OEM will have to update their sets to more correctly adhere to the standard.
This is why I never put much faith in HDMI CEC when I use to install home theaters and media rooms. It always led to inconsistent operation with some devices working and others not. I would always turn that feature off and program a universal remote for the customer.
At least it is switching inputs for you, though. That to me is the most important. Are you mainly using a phone/tablet for chromecast or a PC? If mainly using your phone/tablet, you could use LG's app to turn on the TV before casting. I know it is not ideal, but unfortunately HDMI CEC was a standard but all manufacturers implemented it differently. There is currently no way for chromecast to work the way it was demoed to work across all manufacturers' TVs.
EDIT: Some ray of light is that LG is a hardware partner with Google. Chromecast support might get pushed to your current TV and/or Blu-ray which would solve your problems. If nothing else, I suspect LG to come out with a new Blu-ray player that supports Chromecast.
EDIT 2: I forgot that LG's network protocol does not support turning "on" the TV or Blu-ray so using LG's app will not help you.
In fact I have 3 Chromecasts (for our 3 TVs) and the Chromecast input switching works so well on the LG that I hooked all 3 on the LG and I was able to cast from Chrome at will to one at a time and they would automatically switch to the correct input on each and every time. Now if they can fix the Auto Power ON I will be all set. I also think that LG and Google have a good relationship so they can hopefully work out who will update what (Chromecast or the LG TV) to fix this. I certainly will continue bothering them both (Google and LG) till they fix the issue.
larryvand said:
Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
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Read link below to solve your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44248801&postcount=4
xuser said:
Read link below to solve your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44248801&postcount=4
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Sorry but no dice. Simplink settings: Simplink ON, Auto Power ON. The TV recognizes the 3 Chromecasts plugged into the 3 HDMI inputs with the Simplink logo on the input TV screen, but it refuses to allow them to turn the TV on. All 3 are powered with the external power brick. However, once the TV is manually turned on, the Chromecasts do switch to the correct input when something is cast to them. So as far as the 2013 LG model 47/50/55LA6200 is concerned, the only issue is that Chromecast will not turn the TV ON even though the Auto Power setting of Simplink (LG speak for HDMI-CEC) is on.
Either Chromecast or LG need to update the firmware for their devices, as I have said before the LG Blu-Ray player with Simplink does not have that problem and is able to turn the TV on just fine.
Placeholder for HDMI-CEC
http://www.quantumdata.com/pdf/CEC_White_Paper.pdf
The setup was fine, connected to my network, played Netflix and Youtube from various devices (phone, laptop, computer) no problems! (Interested in the Plex thread and others on here for locally stored video.. )
What is happening is very strange, however. I have a TV with multiple inputs (typical these days, right?) but after I've been 'casting' to the Chromecast, it takes several tries to change away from that input to another input (my Xbox, or HD antenna).
ALSO - the TV powers itself ON after a while! WHY IS THAT? I left and came back home and thought I had left the TV on - which is not like me at all! And later that night it turned on AGAIN after I went to bed. I unplugged the Chromecast just to get it to stop, but ideally, I would want to leave it plugged in all the time.
What is making the TV turn on?
Will moving my TV input to anything other than the Chromecast port stop it?
Is there a soft power-off option for the Chromecast device?
FractalSphere said:
The setup was fine, connected to my network, played Netflix and Youtube from various devices (phone, laptop, computer) no problems! (Interested in the Plex thread and others on here for locally stored video.. )
What is happening is very strange, however. I have a TV with multiple inputs (typical these days, right?) but after I've been 'casting' to the Chromecast, it takes several tries to change away from that input to another input (my Xbox, or HD antenna).
ALSO - the TV powers itself ON after a while! WHY IS THAT? I left and came back home and thought I had left the TV on - which is not like me at all! And later that night it turned on AGAIN after I went to bed. I unplugged the Chromecast just to get it to stop, but ideally, I would want to leave it plugged in all the time.
What is making the TV turn on?
Will moving my TV input to anything other than the Chromecast port stop it?
Is there a soft power-off option for the Chromecast device?
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Sounds like you're having issues with their chrome cast's HDMI CEC. It can be used to automatically change inputs to the one the chrome cast is using and even turn on tvs.
You could disable HDMI control for your TV and it would prevent the issues from occurring.
Every manufacturer has a different name for their HDMI Control feature.
Who makes your tv, OP?
FractalSphere said:
The setup was fine, connected to my network, played Netflix and Youtube from various devices (phone, laptop, computer) no problems! (Interested in the Plex thread and others on here for locally stored video.. )
What is happening is very strange, however. I have a TV with multiple inputs (typical these days, right?) but after I've been 'casting' to the Chromecast, it takes several tries to change away from that input to another input (my Xbox, or HD antenna).
ALSO - the TV powers itself ON after a while! WHY IS THAT? I left and came back home and thought I had left the TV on - which is not like me at all! And later that night it turned on AGAIN after I went to bed. I unplugged the Chromecast just to get it to stop, but ideally, I would want to leave it plugged in all the time.
What is making the TV turn on?
Will moving my TV input to anything other than the Chromecast port stop it?
Is there a soft power-off option for the Chromecast device?
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I would suggest to just unplug the USB when not in use if your TV is turning on, I know my brothers TV its a westinghouse turns on anytime something connected to it turns on like the xbox or ps3 or laptop
not so good to know. hope its fixed soon
Andrmgic said:
Sounds like you're having issues with their chrome cast's HDMI CEC. It can be used to automatically change inputs to the one the chrome cast is using and even turn on tvs.
You could disable HDMI control for your TV and it would prevent the issues from occurring.
Every manufacturer has a different name for their HDMI Control feature.
Who makes your tv, OP?
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It's a Toshiba flat-screen, don't know the model. I'll put more detail up tonight when I can look. :silly: I also need to try having it off the Chromecast and starting a session and seeing if it draws the TV to that input. THAT would be nice, but the auto-powering on is a bad bug in my opinion.
My TV turns on automatically when just about anything powers on before the tv is on. Say I turn my ps3 on 1st, it will turn it on. Or plug a USB Flash drive in, turns it on. But, once in the HDMI spot, I can shut it down and it stays off. Very strange.
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I have my Chromecast hooked up to my Toshiba Model 32C11OU1.
Setup was easy and I watched a movie on NetFlix from my tablet no problem. After I was done the movie I could not get back to regular TV programming. The TV said "no video signal" and the menu and input button on the TV remote would not respond. I had to unplug everything and then use the menu button on the TV to get regular TV to work again.
There must be a simple way to go back to TV watching after using the Chromecast. Anyone know how?
Maybe pressing the button that says "TV" on your remote? Or switching AV inputs?
Hugh_Jass said:
I have my Chromecast hooked up to my Toshiba Model 32C11OU1.
Setup was easy and I watched a movie on NetFlix from my tablet no problem. After I was done the movie I could not get back to regular TV programming. The TV said "no video signal" and the menu and input button on the TV remote would not respond. I had to unplug everything and then use the menu button on the TV to get regular TV to work again.
There must be a simple way to go back to TV watching after using the Chromecast. Anyone know how?
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I had the same issue. The remote 'shortcut' button didn't switch between inputs, I had to actually hit the "input" button on the TV to get it to switch. If you dig in the TVs setup menu, there's a REGZA link setup (it was new to me, too) once the Chromecast is plugged in - I had to disable it because it not only held my TV at that input, but turned my TV on regularly when I wasn't there.
I really like how the Chromecast can turn my TV to the correct source and turn it on when I start casting. But is there a way to tell it to turn the TV off when I'm done with it. For example I'm using my ipad to start a movie on Netflix and cast it to the Chromecast. Everything works good. But I left the TV remote next to the TV. Is there a way to turn the TV off from the ipad or a computer with the Chromecast that way I can literally leave my TV remote in a drawer and never have to tough it?
I don't believe chromecast is capable of that. The device you're using has to have an IR blaster to be able to turn the tv on and off. Most new high-end androids have an IR blaster (G2, Note 3, S4, One).
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If you have Verizon fios they have an app that goes through your router that you can change tv don't need IR, since it uses wifi.
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The CEC Power off command is usually sent as part of the power down sequence of the device tat is sending it.
Pull the plug on the TV and it will not send a power down command to other devices on the CEC Network but hit the power Button and it will.
Since the Chromecast never really powers down (it does restart) it is difficult to know when it should send a power off command.
It would not be good to have it send one after every stream is done because most people aren't done watching TV after every stream completes.
Better would be if the CCast would send a Change Input command to go back to the last input before it took over (No command for that in CEC that I know of) so that if you streamed something when the TV was seeing the Cablebox, It would switch to CCast Input when it had a stream and then would switch back to whatever input it was on before CCast took over the screen.
That would be much more useful than a power off command which is great only when you want to watch one stream and then nothing else.
SKyRocKeting727 said:
I don't believe chromecast is capable of that. The device you're using has to have an IR blaster to be able to turn the tv on and off. Most new high-end androids have an IR blaster (G2, Note 3, S4, One).
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Huh? The Chromecast can already turn on and change inputs on some tvs using HDMI CEC. It is most likely a design decision not to turn the tv off when it disconnects.
My TV has an option in the menu to auto switch inputs when it detects activity on one of them through HDMI. So when I turn my bluray on the TV will detect that and switch to INPUT 3 and preempt my satellite input. It's kind of a pain that when I insert a bluray into the player it auto switches even if I'm not ready.
-- EDIT: nevermind, that was an older TV. New one doesn't, so it's HDMI CEC (VieraLink for mine) as bozzykid said.
Asphyx said:
The CEC Power off command is usually sent as part of the power down sequence of the device tat is sending it.
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Since the Chromecast never really powers down (it does restart) it is difficult to know when it should send a power off command.
It would not be good to have it send one after every stream is done because most people aren't done watching TV after every stream completes.
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It'd be nice if there was a manual option... Maybe an option when you long click the chromecast button...
edscholl said:
It'd be nice if there was a manual option... Maybe an option when you long click the chromecast button...
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I would rather they just made a TV Remote app for CCast to control the whole damn thing! LOL
I pull the USB plug (which supplies power) when I'm done watching.
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While I watching a stream on Chromecast, Google Android smartwatch with Chromecast control popped into my head as I picked up the smartphone to pause Netflix for a snack break.
Hi,
I just got a Chromecast yesterday now that they are finally available in Canada, and for the life of me I can't get it to work. I have it setup and connected to my wireless network no problem, but I can't get it to cast anything to the screen. Right now, i'm trying to use the Chromecast as a way to stream media on my local SAMBA/miniDLNA server, to my TV. The computer that serves the files (Samba/miniDLNA) is a Raspberry Pi, and in no way can transcode files. So, I am trying to use Allcast from my phone to transcode and cast the file to my TV.
Problem is, everytime I try to cast, Chrome changes screen and shows the file name, but sits there and never actually shows the video. So, thinking it was just the app I tried Pandora and tried to cast to my TV, that didn't work either, says it is unable to connect to cast. I'm at my wits end trying to figure this out, and from all that I have read and researched, I can't find a good reason why I can't get anything to work yet.
Anyone else have these problems? Is there something in my router that I need to open up for this to work?
Help please!
colhavoc said:
Hi,
I just got a Chromecast yesterday now that they are finally available in Canada, and for the life of me I can't get it to work. I have it setup and connected to my wireless network no problem, but I can't get it to cast anything to the screen. Right now, i'm trying to use the Chromecast as a way to stream media on my local SAMBA/miniDLNA server, to my TV. The computer that serves the files (Samba/miniDLNA) is a Raspberry Pi, and in no way can transcode files. So, I am trying to use Allcast from my phone to transcode and cast the file to my TV.
Problem is, everytime I try to cast, Chrome changes screen and shows the file name, but sits there and never actually shows the video. So, thinking it was just the app I tried Pandora and tried to cast to my TV, that didn't work either, says it is unable to connect to cast. I'm at my wits end trying to figure this out, and from all that I have read and researched, I can't find a good reason why I can't get anything to work yet.
Anyone else have these problems? Is there something in my router that I need to open up for this to work?
Help please!
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Allcast does not transcode....
Read this thread....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2689141
colhavoc said:
Hi,
I just got a Chromecast yesterday now that they are finally available in Canada, and for the life of me I can't get it to work. I have it setup and connected to my wireless network no problem, but I can't get it to cast anything to the screen. Right now, i'm trying to use the Chromecast as a way to stream media on my local SAMBA/miniDLNA server, to my TV. The computer that serves the files (Samba/miniDLNA) is a Raspberry Pi, and in no way can transcode files. So, I am trying to use Allcast from my phone to transcode and cast the file to my TV.
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As Asphyx said, Allcast doesn't transcode, so if your media isn't in a Chromecast-compatible format, it'll just show the filename but just have black screen.
Beyond that, the first step is usually to verify that the native/optimized Chromecast applications work - YouTube, Pandora, etc.
That will help eliminate some router issues from the equation.