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[Q] Conflicting information on T-Mobile X on AT&T

So I've been searching around, and some people say that AT&Ts LTE works perfectly, but some say that there is a missing band
Steve-x said:
I have seen several posts on flashing XT1053(retail/tmobile/developer) firmware on XT1058(AT&T/Rogers/etc) hardware. I believe most people were only doing the OS though and not the entire flash(including the radio/modem)
The XT1053 is FCC ID ihdt56pa2 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 1700/850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04 and 17
The XT1058 is FCC ID ihdt56pa1 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04,05 and 17
So the differences are that the XT1053 supports wcdma 1700 and the XT1058 supports LTE band 05.
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But on the CyanogenMod page about the devices, they have the exact same bands:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1053_Info
So the reason I'm choosing the Tmobile X over the native ATT one is because ATT locked the bootloader, and has ugly logos on the phone, plus bloatware. Unlocked bootloader is the main thing. I'm not getting the developer edition because I really want to customize my phone .
So, can SOMEONE confirm if you can use E/3G/4G/LTE on the TMobile Moto X?

shusain93 said:
So I've been searching around, and some people say that AT&Ts LTE works perfectly, but some say that there is a missing band
But on the CyanogenMod page about the devices, they have the exact same bands:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1053_Info
So the reason I'm choosing the Tmobile X over the native ATT one is because ATT locked the bootloader, and has ugly logos on the phone, plus bloatware. Unlocked bootloader is the main thing. I'm not getting the developer edition because I really want to customize my phone .
So, can SOMEONE confirm if you can use E/3G/4G/LTE on the TMobile Moto X?
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I can confirm that the "T-Mobile" Moto X (XT1053) works 100% on AT&T 3G and LTE. I am using this model on AT&T's GoPhone service without any issues, both 3G HSPA+ and LTE work fine.
It is true that the XT1053 model is "missing" an LTE band (Band 5) -- however, AT&T does NOT use this band in the United States (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas), and the T-Mobile version has Bands 4 and 17 that AT&T uses in the U.S. So, if you're using AT&T in the U.S., the T-Mobile XT1053 model will work fine on LTE.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Moto X's IMEI will not be automatically provisioned by AT&T for LTE access since it's not an AT&T branded phone (AT&T's network assumes that non-AT&T phones are "dumbphones" that only work with HSPA+) -- you'll need to provide them with an IMEI of an AT&T LTE phone to get LTE access. This was confusing to me at first, because when I first activated my Moto X on the AT&T network I only could connect to HSPA+. I eventually had to go to an AT&T store, write down the IMEI of a Galaxy Note 2 floor model (but any LTE phone in the store would work), and give that IMEI to AT&T. After that, LTE worked perfectly.
Hope this helps!
James

Jimbogiant said:
One thing to keep in mind is that the Moto X's IMEI will not be automatically provisioned by AT&T for LTE access since it's not an AT&T branded phone (AT&T's network assumes that non-AT&T phones are "dumbphones" that only work with HSPA+) -- you'll need to provide them with an IMEI of an AT&T LTE phone to get LTE access. This was confusing to me at first, because when I first activated my Moto X on the AT&T network I only could connect to HSPA+. I eventually had to go to an AT&T store, write down the IMEI of a Galaxy Note 2 floor model (but any LTE phone in the store would work), and give that IMEI to AT&T. After that, LTE worked perfectly
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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?

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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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I've never had to give them a fake IEMI. I just had to call and give them the one from my phone, and they then added LTE to it.

icase81 said:
I've never had to give them a fake IEMI. I just had to call and give them the one from my phone, and they then added LTE to it.
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So I can take the IMEI from my iPhone (LTE), call AT&T up tell them I have a phone that supports LTE, but it's only getting 3G? What am I supposed to say?

shusain93 said:
So I can take the IMEI from my iPhone (LTE), call AT&T up tell them I have a phone that supports LTE, but it's only getting 3G? What am I supposed to say?
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Just call them. Say you aren't getting LTE and want to see what's wrong. They'll ask for the IEMI, and provision it. In a fringe scenario, they'll ask you to goto a store and get a new SIM card, where they'll do the same thing and read the IEMI.

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Just call them. Say you aren't getting LTE and want to see what's wrong. They'll ask for the IEMI, and provision it. In a fringe scenario, they'll ask you to goto a store and get a new SIM card, where they'll do the same thing and read the IEMI.
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They provisioned mine at the store as I needed a new nano sim card. I had a gophone HSPA+ account with my Nexus 4 and they added the IEMI from the Moto X to my account, changed my plan to an LTE plan and I got LTE on the Moto X. Took 5 minutes.

shusain93 said:
How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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No one is "faking" IMEIs or doing anything illegal. I'm sure people's experiences will differ from one store to the next, I'm just telling you what I had to do.
When I first got my Moto X, LTE did not work. I tried calling AT&T's customer support, and they told me my phone was "unsupported by the network," which is a huge pile of BS. So, I went to my local AT&T store and told a rep what was going on. He said "I'll be right back," grabbed a Galaxy Note 2 from a display, and wrote down its IMEI. He punched that into the system and voilá, the Moto X's LTE worked and it's been great ever since.
This was back in September, so maybe AT&T automatically recognizes Moto X IMEIs and provisions them for LTE. If not, just go in to a store and they'll get it figured out for you.
James

Anybody know if my microcell from atnt will work with the Tmobile version of the moto x?
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Jimbogiant said:
No one is "faking" IMEIs or doing anything illegal. I'm sure people's experiences will differ from one store to the next, I'm just telling you what I had to do.
When I first got my Moto X, LTE did not work. I tried calling AT&T's customer support, and they told me my phone was "unsupported by the network," which is a huge pile of BS. So, I went to my local AT&T store and told a rep what was going on. He said "I'll be right back," grabbed a Galaxy Note 2 from a display, and wrote down its IMEI. He punched that into the system and voilá, the Moto X's LTE worked and it's been great ever since.
This was back in September, so maybe AT&T automatically recognizes Moto X IMEIs and provisions them for LTE. If not, just go in to a store and they'll get it figured out for you.
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Did you account not already have an LTE device on it? I plan on switching my sim from an already LTE device.

shusain93 said:
Did you account not already have an LTE device on it? I plan on switching my sim from an already LTE device.
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I activated a brand new account with the Moto X, so I didn't already have an LTE device on it like you do. I bet yours will work right out of the gate. I wasn't trying to scare you or imply that your phone wasn't going to work, but I wanted to let you know of the possibility of that happening and what to do if it did happen. Having been in the same situation you will be in (using AT&T on a T-Mobile Moto X), I just wanted you to have all the info.
I'm definitely not the only one to have run into a similar issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45965273&postcount=169 . This was a reply from someone helping me out w/ the LTE issue when I first got the phone in September:
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Mine works on AT&T LTE out of the box. You might have to try several things: call CS and make sure your IMEI is in the system. This should update and provision your account for LTE hopefully, though sometimes they don't recognize non-AT&T phones. Make sure to shut off your phone, go outside where it's clear and reboot after they do that as it needs to a very clear signal to latch onto the tower for the first time for LTE. If that doesn't work, you need to call CS and make sure you get Tech Support and basically geek out to one of them (about how you know what bands it has and what an APN is and double check you've got the correct one, etc) as they'll have to do all sorts of things to possibly get it to work. I finally had to use my old AT&T LTE phone IMEI and keep that on the account to keep it correctly provisioned. Weird, but just my experience.
It does work though on AT&T LTE.
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Thank you everyone! Looks like I'm getting a T-Mobile X.

I got one today, more worried about it not connecting to my microcell. 32 gb Super stoked!!!
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Are most of you planning on getting a new nano sim or are you just going to cut yours down from a larger size?
I have an S4 right now which has a micro-sim. So I was thinking of cutting it down to a nano sim. Anyone done this?

I'm a little confused now on this IMEI stuff. I've got a GS3 (i747) on AT&T right now w/ LTE. I've purchased a XT1053 (T-Mobile variant of moto x).
When it comes next week and I go in to get a nano sim card will they give me a hard time because they'll want to register the IMEI of the Moto X and it won't be in their DB?
I also want to sell my i747 on swappa, but swappa you're supposed to unregister any devices from your account first right? So don't I need to remove the IMEI of my i747 from my account and have the Moto X IMEI registered then?

superm1 said:
I'm a little confused now on this IMEI stuff. I've got a GS3 (i747) on AT&T right now w/ LTE. I've purchased a XT1053 (T-Mobile variant of moto x).
When it comes next week and I go in to get a nano sim card will they give me a hard time because they'll want to register the IMEI of the Moto X and it won't be in their DB?
I also want to sell my i747 on swappa, but swappa you're supposed to unregister any devices from your account first right? So don't I need to remove the IMEI of my i747 from my account and have the Moto X IMEI registered then?
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From the sounds of it, my information from earlier in the thread may be outdated. I had the IMEI issues back in September, but from what I can gather now (and based on my experience with the Nexus 5), I think AT&T's IMEI database has been updated to automatically provision new unlocked phones to LTE.
I would just take your Moto X into an AT&T store when you get it and try it with its own IMEI -- if LTE doesn't work, just ask one of the reps if they have a placeholder LTE-enabled IMEI they could punch in instead, this is what they did for me back in September.
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chirpa12 said:
Are most of you planning on getting a new nano sim or are you just going to cut yours down from a larger size?
I have an S4 right now which has a micro-sim. So I was thinking of cutting it down to a nano sim. Anyone done this?
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I've cut down a micro SIM to a nano SIM with no problems. AT&T will give you a nano SIM for free if you walk into a store and ask for one though.

Great info guys. I'm planning to get the T-Mobile Moto X myself to use on AT&T, do I need to unlock the phone? and how do you do that?

The T-Mo version is not Sim locked, so you'll be fine. Sounds like you'll need to talk to AT&T to get LTE access, though.
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Russell Sprouts said:
The T-Mo version is not Sim locked, so you'll be fine. Sounds like you'll need to talk to AT&T to get LTE access, though.
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I already have a Galaxy S3 with LTE enabled, all I need to do is to cut the sim card right? to have LTE on T-Mobile Moto X

I'm not sure how that works... Is it really as simple as swapping the Sim card? I just got a T-Mo Moto X to replace the AT&T version I've been using on T-Mo prepaid and I thought I'd at least have to register the new IMEI before I could use it.
EDIT: Well I just successfully swapped my sim into a new T-Mo Moto X and it connected right away to LTE. So that answers that. No need to call or otherwise notify T-Mo. The above discussion suggests it may be more complicated on AT&T, though.

(Q) Buying a Nexus 6 at T-mobile to use at Verizon

Since the Nexus 6 US version is the same across all carriers, couldn't someone from Verizon buy a phone at T-mobile off contract and use it on verizon with a pre-existing Verizon sim?

rester555 said:
Since the Nexus 6 US version is the same across all carriers, couldn't someone from Verizon buy a phone at T-mobile off contract and use it on verizon with a pre-existing Verizon sim?
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No. Well you could but version probably won't authorize devices if the imei is not in their database.
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monkeypaws said:
No
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Why not? All signs point to T-Mobile selling the Nexus 6 without any kind of SIM lock, so you should be able to pop in a Verizon SIM in the Nexus 6 you get from T-Mobile and it will probably work.

Probly not. But wait and see.

dualityim said:
Why not? All signs point to T-Mobile selling the Nexus 6 without any kind of SIM lock, so you should be able to pop in a Verizon SIM in the Nexus 6 you get from T-Mobile and it will probably work.
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People are saying that the T-mobile version IMEI's won't be on VZW's whitelist, but unlocked versions are.
However, no one really knows, it's an assumption based on past knowledge.

Joshnor713 said:
People are saying that the T-mobile version IMEI's won't be on VZW's whitelist, but unlocked versions are.
However, no one really knows, it's an assumption based on past knowledge.
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We had this debate in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The consensus seems to be that Verizon only uses IMEI whitelists for device activation, and maybe for non-LTE devices. For LTE devices, it seems all the information that is needed to authenticate to both the CDMA and the LTE network are stored on the SIM card. So if you already have an activated SIM from Verizon, it should work on any SIM-unlocked Nexus 6.

dualityim said:
We had this debate in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The consensus seems to be that Verizon only uses IMEI whitelists for device activation, and maybe for non-LTE devices. For LTE devices, it seems all the information that is needed to authenticate to both the CDMA and the LTE network are stored on the SIM card. So if you already have an activated SIM from Verizon, it should work on any SIM-unlocked Nexus 6.
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Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.

Joshnor713 said:
Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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No all nexus are Sim unlocked.
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Joshnor713 said:
Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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It won't be sim locked ...they already took a t mobile nexus 6 and put vzw sim in it and it worked lte and calls

nexus6R3plicant said:
It won't be sim locked ...they already took a t mobile nexus 6 and put vzw sim in it and it worked lte and calls
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Are you talking about the Droid-life vid? That was a Play store version.

Joshnor713 said:
Are you talking about the Droid-life vid? That was a Play store version.
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ExCtly. People are getting confused because of the pamphlets that have to logos but they are google play review units. They were probably google units going to Tmobile that had those pamphlets and were used as review units. That DOESNT mean they came from Tmobile which is a different thing. Plus you also have to consider that the persons Verizon Sim car is already provisioned. The real test is activating new new service with a new sim card.
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Yes, you guys have some valid points. I already have an activated sim and all I would need to do is pop mine in to a T-mobile phone to see if it works.
But speaking to the last post, it would be interesting to see if a new verizon sim would work with a t-mobile bought phone.

There are only 2 versions. ..... international and north American. .....not a t mobile sprint vzw etc they are the same

If that's the case, then everyone should flock T-mobile stores on Nov. 12th if they are buying off contract.

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If that's the case, then everyone should flock T-mobile stores on Nov. 12th if they are buying off contract.
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Uh no. That's not how it works.
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Well how does it work then? I am reading that it is/is not tied to IMEI. So what is the reason you can't? Does anyone know?
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Well how does it work then? I am reading that it is/is not tied to IMEI. So what is the reason you can't? Does anyone know?
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Well first. Good luck trying to get a Tmobile store to sell you the phone without having an account. I've heard that some might for a higher msrp price. Even then if Verizon doesn't have the imei in their database you can't get it activated there. Some have said if you pop in an existing nano Sim with existing service it will work but trying to activate new service with it on Verizon may be tricky, specially since Verizon hasn't said squat about release dates or if they will even have the device in stock.
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Well first. Good luck trying to get a Tmobile store to sell you the phone without having an account. I've heard that some might for a higher msrp price. Even then if Verizon doesn't have the imei in their database you can't get it activated there. Some have said if you pop in an existing nano Sim with existing service it will work but trying to activate new service with it on Verizon may be tricky, specially since Verizon hasn't said squat about release dates or if they will even have the device in stock.
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This exactly.
Fact is if you want to use a Nexus 6 on VZW your best bet is to buy from Play Store, Amazon, Motorola Direct, Verizon upon release, etc but NOT from other carriers.
Also T-Mobile has confirmed that they will turn away anyone hoping to buy off contract at any of their stores on launch day. They want to give current customers and new service customers the first go at the device sale before expanding sales to a whole after the hype dies down on their customer end.

I was lucky enough to get an order in today on Motorola's site, but after watching the latest Droid-Life show I was left with a concern. Apparently we won't be able to use simultaneous voice and data. So say for example I'm on a call and want to look something up, unless I'm connected to a WiFi network I won't be able to do that. This is the case with the 2014 Moto X and the just released Droid Turbo. Those phones though are (according to Verizon) going to get an update before the years end to allow for VoLTE, which will fix this problem. The problem I see is that since this isn't a "Verizon" phone per say, how are we going to get that update? Are we going to be stuck not being able to use simultaneous voice and data? For once I thought we finally had a great Nexus phone on Verizon and now this news reminds me of why we haven't had a Nexus phone after the Galaxy Nexus.

I have been mainly using it with T-Mobile but have popped in a Verizon sim and got LTE service. Made a couple of calls, used the internet.

Sprint Nexus 6 for Verzion?

Hello I currently have Verizon for a carrier and was wondering if the Nexus 6 for sprint would be able to work on my Verizon carrier? I had a pretty decent deal $520.00 for a Sprint Nexus 6 that I had to pass up today sadly... I went to the Verizon store and it turns out the IMEI # is not showing up in Verizons database for supported devices.. I was wondering if the Nexus 6 work for Verizon? I'm looking to get a phone that has the bootloader unlocked and will work for Verizon and is a pretty new phone this is why I was considering the Nexus 6, I'm open to other devices that can do this as well if anyone has any other suggestions?

If you have a Verizon activated nano sim (or cut a micro down) you could just put it in the sprint nexus 6 and everything would work fine from what I've read. It will still show as an unknown device and no one knows what will happen for sure with volte yet, but it sounds like verizon will get it on the 12th. People speculate that play store and Motorola phones may eventually be recognized by Verizon, but a sprint version probably never will.

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If you have a Verizon activated nano sim (or cut a micro down) you could just put it in the sprint nexus 6 and everything would work fine from what I've read. It will still show as an unknown device and no one knows what will happen for sure with volte yet, but it sounds like verizon will get it on the 12th. People speculate that play store and Motorola phones may eventually be recognized by Verizon, but a sprint version probably never will.
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The "sprint" version is the same version from the play store, that's how's it been for quite some time now, that's why it works on any carrier even if you got a contract
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Google play VS. Carrier branded

So I have never purchased a Google play version of a phone before so I am wondering something.
I always root and install ROMs on my phones and I have only had non-nexus devices and know that installing a sprint ROM on a Verizon phone makes it not work correctly... So if I buy a Google play version can I install Verizon ROMs since I'm on the Verizon network?

Both are the same. Roms work on all networks.
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So the only difference is that I will have different firmware files to use if I bootloop and such?

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So the only difference is that I will have different firmware files to use if I bootloop and such?
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No difference. All Google nexus 6 factory images can be flashed on any nexus 6. They are all identical.
Only thing with Verizon is that they will not add any other nexus 6 to their system. It will work, but you will see that you are using a non vzw device when you log into your account

Nickchapstick said:
So I have never purchased a Google play version of a phone before so I am wondering something.
I always root and install ROMs on my phones and I have only had non-nexus devices and know that installing a sprint ROM on a Verizon phone makes it not work correctly... So if I buy a Google play version can I install Verizon ROMs since I'm on the Verizon network?
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I bought mine from Motorola so that I could get the Motocare policy. The issues with buying a non-Verizon branded N6 are the following:
1) Verizon reps won't be able to activate a Verizon nano SIM in the device - so you would need to use an already activated SIM card to get the device active on your line - this can be done by activating a nano SIM in a Verizon branded phone that uses a nano SIM or by cutting down an existing micro SIM card;
2) If you deal with Verizon instead of Google or Motorola for warranty issues, you are going to get a Verizon branded 32GB Midnight Blue N6 as a replacement regardless of whether or not you have the light grey or the 64GB N6 - so IMO, dealing with Verizon is not an option;
3) Asurion insurance likely won't replace your device with a non-Verizon branded N6 should you need to use insurance coverage so again, you would be getting a 32GB Midnight Blue Verizon N6 as a replacement regardless of what device you actually have on the line if you pay for Asurion insurance;
4) Asurion insurance may not cover your device at all since your line will just show Non-Verizon Device on it - hence another the reason I bought from Motorola directly and bought the MotoCare policy;
5) To get HD Voice/Advance Calling/VoLTE active on your line, you would need to first put a Verizon branded device that is VoLTE eligible on your line to add it as a feature or search the forum for other ideas on how to do it; and
6) People with More Everything plans and the month-to-month or Edge discount on their lines are having trouble getting the discount to stick even after the reps add it to their lines.
I had a Moto X on my line, which uses a nano SIM card so I had no issues with #1. I bought the MotoCare policy so I have eliminated issues #2-#4 for myself. I used an iP6 to get VoLTE added to my line and have a legacy nationwide plan so issues #5 and #6 aren't problems for me.
I haven't yet flashed to 5.1 so I can't test the VoLTE yet but others say it works and I will do that soon and report back my results.

Nickchapstick said:
So I have never purchased a Google play version of a phone before so I am wondering something.
I always root and install ROMs on my phones and I have only had non-nexus devices and know that installing a sprint ROM on a Verizon phone makes it not work correctly... So if I buy a Google play version can I install Verizon ROMs since I'm on the Verizon network?
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There's no "carrier" version, there's a nexus 6 made by motorola, endorsed by Google, that's it, your particular carrier may sell said device on their network, but it's not their device or their variant, there are two variants, a US model and an international model and even then, there's literally only a band availability difference. All nexi are the same phone not matter who's providing the service for it
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Awesome I appreciate all the replies and I have the info I needed. Thanks for being educational.

Real Quick Question - Any Help is Appreciated

Hey guys, sorry to bug you - just in a pinch and could use some quick confirmation. I know you have probably answered this same question a million times, just want to clarify.
I currently have Verizon Service, using a Droid Turbo that has a Nano-Sim.
I am purchasing an Unlocked, Unbranded Nexus 6 via Amazon.
Specifically, this product:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Nexu...e=UTF8&qid=1443036647&sr=1-4&keywords=Nexus+6
Will this work on Verizons Network? This device will NOT be purchased through verizon, this will be a BYOP (bring your own phone) kind of thing im trying to do.
I know the Nexus 6 Uses a Nano-Sim, my Droid Turbo uses a Nano-Sim... is it as easy as just swapping the SIM into the new phone, or is there more to this?
I realize that the Nexus 6 is all the same, there is not a CDMA Version and a GSM Version, however i have heard of Verizon being a little strict if you dont purchase the device directly from them.
Normally I wouldnt question this, However per the Amazon Ad I listed above, it specifically has the following line item in the description... Is this Accurate?
"Unlocked cell phones are compatible with GSM carriers like AT&T and T-Mobile as well as with GSM SIM cards (e.g. H20, Straight Talk, and select prepaid carriers). Unlocked cell phones will not work with CDMA Carriers like Sprint, Verizon, Boost or Virgin."

Yes this phone will work.

Ordered, thanks dude

It will probably show up on your account as a non-Verizon device. Any discounts may be forfeited. And it will only be because you didn't buy from Verizon.