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You may or may not have heard about this but if you live in a country where purchasing devices from google play isn't available(which is like 98% of the countries),you will have to pay a whopping 549 euros for the 16gb nexus 4(that's the pricing in Austria,dunno about the rest of the world but it will most likely be the same).I will actually have to pay more than double the original price of a phone that got 16gb non expandable storage.And if I bought it online,I will have to sacrifice local warranty.It just looks like google is doing their best to force me not to get their nexus devices.There's just a big hype about how cheap the nexus 4 is with cutting-edge hardware ignoring the fact that only people living in certain countries can get it for that price.Why can't google be fair ? Guess I might end up getting Gnote 2,at least it got a micro SD slot.
Wow. This sucks. Nice find! For that price, I'd definitely go for a Note II!
(My cousin is in the states so he'll order it for me and send it here to India through my uncle's shipping company - Win win for me!)
+1 Thats annyoing @OP
I'm from Germany ( and may buy 1 for you & send u )
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i am personally ready to be robbed by those retail stores. it sucks but then the price tag wasn't the deciding factor.
Maybe see if someone from another country can buy it from the play store and have them mail it to you? Providing the shipping cost is realistic?
I'll get one from Germany too.
If anyone wants to order for me send me a PM.
I am screwed, since I live in the Netherlands. No Playstore here. Hopefully the online shops will sell against Playstore prices, or less Sucks I can't order from European Playstores btw, so much for European 'shop integration'.
Yep, I can't but devices from the play store here either.... :/ just hope its at a reasonable price or else I'll have to ask someone to buy for me... its not there on expansys yet either
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I think we should wait official pricing for other countries. However, if in Italy the prices will be so high, I'll buy it online from another European country.
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I am screwed, since I live in the Netherlands. No Playstore here. Hopefully the online shops will sell against Playstore prices, or less Sucks I can't order from European Playstores btw, so much for European 'shop integration'.
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Well, it's worth a trip to Germany.
But I have doubts this will really happen. That would be pretty stupid of Google. Look at the price if the nexus tablet. That's also pretty cheap for what it has to offer.
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I completely agree, I live in Chile and the carriers here are just thieves, the galaxy nexus retails here for around 750 USD contract free.
Gladly my brother is going to USA on december and he might get one N4 for me there at a normal price.
Does anyone knows if you can buy a nexus product online? Becouse whenever I try to go to the website says its restricted to my country, I dont know if its possible to shop online outside the US. I wouldnt care not having warranty if I pay 300 box.
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I completely agree, I live in Chile and the carriers just are steal money, the galaxy nexus retails here for around 800 USD contract free.
Gladly my brother is going to USA on december and he might get one N4 for me there at a normal price.
Does anyone knows if you can buy a nexus product online? Becouse whenever I try to go to the website says its restricted to my country, I dont know if its possible to shop online outside the US. I wouldnt care not having warranty if I pay 300 box.
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Only selected countries can buy from Google Play Store online.
arzbhatia said:
Wow. This sucks. Nice find! For that price, I'd definitely go for a Note II!
(My cousin is in the states so he'll order it for me and send it here to India through my uncle's shipping company - Win win for me!)
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It's a relief that someone else agrees on getting GNote 2 if I will have to pay the same,thanks ^^ lol.
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+1 Thats annyoing @OP
I'm from Germany ( and may buy 1 for you & send u )
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Thanks for trying to help but as I mentioned,I won't have warranty this way.And if I discovered any factory defects,it will be impossible to return it back.
i hope it doesn't happen in italy.... i want it to the same price! WTF!
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I think we should wait official pricing for other countries. However, if in Italy the prices will be so high, I'll buy it online from another European country.
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I think that Google is selling the product below the MSRP because they expect people to post some of those saved euros into producst on the store.
It's 549€ here as well, and also in Sweden as far as i know.
Thank goodness my girlfriend lives in Germany.
It would be awesome if some XDA peeps located in Europe and have access to Playstores could help out their fellow European members
here in Israel i will be thank's full if it will Retail for 600$.
I'm sure it'll come in time. Do you have the N7 yet?
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I'm sure it'll come in time. Do you have the N7 yet?
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Nope,not yet but well LG said that the nexus 4 will be available in the middle east end of november so I assume Egypt is included.Nexus devices do take a long time to be available here.The galaxy nexus for example took freakin 6 months and it was exclusive to vodafone.Asus Egypt said that the nexus 7 should be available in mid october but so far nothing...
So far we've been left in the dark as to the release day and price of the Note 4 but here is all the information that I have so far.
Pre-order Info:
Samsung Stores (Brick and Mortar) are doing a "pre-order" where you can either stop in or call and leave your information and which color of phone you want. When they get either a demo model or the actual phones to sell (my guess is the former), they'll contact you so you can have a look and secure your pre-order. My guess is that at this point they may require a deposit but I'm not 100% sure on that, neither was the person I spoke with.
Best Buy and Future Shop are also doing a pre-order where you have to put $50 down and you can save 20% off an accessory when the phone comes in. This is in store only. Scroll down a bit to see the advert, and it doesn't mention the $50 deposit online however it said that in the flyer.
BB http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/categor...spx?path=b364a01690d452db534a54a7b0c62a26en01
FS http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/cate...spx?path=a432f45c3e0aad5c68a07dead707b842en01
Costco
I spoke with someone at Wireless Etc. which is located in Costco stores and he said that they had training on Oct. 7 for the Note 4 and that he presumed it would be an Oct. 17 launch day however nothing for the launch date had been confirmed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2888858
Expansys.ca will ship "no later than Thursday" of you want to give them all your money. Apparently.
Don't
Before giving them 1000$+ be sure the model # is sm-n910w8 or else you will be very disappointed.
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Ok, so I just confirmed that Expansys.ca ships the Exynos version.
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Ok, so I just confirmed that Expansys.ca ships the Exynos version.
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You'd better double-check, maybe triple-check, because they told me it was Exynos first, then said:
"Jorge is incorrect. The SnapDragon model is the one that we will be receiving "
My confidence in them is quickly fading
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Ok, so I just confirmed that Expansys.ca ships the Exynos version.
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Ok, just confirmed again, and it is the Exynos model they are getting - no Canadian LTE, so I'll be passing.
I don't understand why Samsung doesn't just sell unlocked phones. That would make things so much easier.
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I don't understand why Samsung doesn't just sell unlocked phones. That would make things so much easier.
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I know, I find it completely ridiculous that so many of us WANT to spend our money on their phones, but it's so god damn difficult. My brother wanted an iPhone 6, he got it no problem. Me? Wait several weeks after launch and still don't get a price or delivery date... then have to find loopholes to get an unlocked phone without selling my right arm in the process.
Yo, Sammy! I've got money, so let me spend it! :victory:
Well have you seen how the iphone 6 launch was rushed. All the iOS 8 problems and iphone 6 issues. Samsung want to keep those problems as minimal as possible. The wait is going to be worth it
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Well have you seen how the iphone 6 launch was rushed. All the iOS 8 problems and iphone 6 issues. Samsung want to keep those problems as minimal as possible. The wait is going to be worth it
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I don't mind a wait, but we don't even know how long we'll be waiting or how much we'll have to spend in the end. It's a really poor business practice.
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I don't understand why Samsung doesn't just sell unlocked phones. That would make things so much easier.
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I know, I find it completely ridiculous that so many of us WANT to spend our money on their phones, but it's so god damn difficult. My brother wanted an iPhone 6, he got it no problem. Me? Wait several weeks after launch and still don't get a price or delivery date... then have to find loopholes to get an unlocked phone without selling my right arm in the process.
Yo, Sammy! I've got money, so let me spend it! :victory:
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It sucks too because I am in the position where renewing on a 2 year contract and losing my amazingly cheap 6GB plan would cost me more in the long run then buying the phone out right.
So I will be buying mine in full (hopefully not outrageously priced).
I find it ridiculous that they don't allow us to buy an unlocked clean from carrier bloat version off their website, however there is way if you live in Vancouver lol. In the Metrotown mall there is our 1 and only Samsung store in Canada and you can get the phones from there and I believe they are unlocked but you half to walk in to get them >_<
However unlocking a carrier one isn't a big deal anymore, because of the new CRTC ruling the carriers half to give you unlock codes if you want them and its limited to a max price of $50, but you can simply go to one of those 3rd party cell unlocking sites and get the Samsung unlock codes for your phone for $30 which is what I've always done to unlock my phones from Bell.
What bothers me too is that some places won't even sell a no term Note 4. I understand with the iPhone that Apple bars the selling of no term phones for 3 months because they want customers to come directly to them. However with Samsung it's different as there are not nearly as many Samsung stores as Apple stores and no matter what you can't buy the phone unlocked from Samsung it had to be liked to a carrier. They need to offer the phone through their online store and retail stores unlocked, it's as simple as that. Whether they ever smarten is another story.
The same goes for their launches, take a page out of Apple's book and have everything ready and 2 weeks out at most after the initial release party. Also they need to have prices when they do the unveiling. For all of us here it will be delayed gratification as we're getting the phone we know we want. But what about the how many other people out there that didn't want to wait and are now owning a new 6+. They may have the (imo) inferior device but they also didn't give Samsung a dime. People want things now at least in North America and are not willing to wait.
What does everyone think the Note 4 will cost? Same price as last year? I can't think off hand if the dollar has changed much in they last year which would bump our costs up. American pricing seems the same as last year I believe so maybe $750?
So it looks like it's Oct. 17 for Canada http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/10/01/samsungs-galaxy-note-4-to-arrive-in-canada-on-october-17/
It's funny because I had just talked to 2 Telus stores, and one said either the 4th or 14th and the other said their was a dealer forum happening on the 9th so it would be just before our after that.
Still no pricing yet.
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So it looks like it's Oct. 17 for Canada http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/10/01/samsungs-galaxy-note-4-to-arrive-in-canada-on-october-17/
It's funny because I had just talked to 2 Telus stores, and one said either the 4th or 14th and the other said their was a dealer forum happening on the 9th so it would be just before our after that.
Still no pricing yet.
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All the Canadian Note 4 firmware's have been released on Samsung's Kies firmware update servers, Sammobile has them downloaded already for anyone who wish to get them as well. This is good news for us as Samsung Canada has a habit of making sure the firmware's are pre-available close to a release date to make sure that things go smoothly and on the off chance something needs to be reinitialized the full firmware is there for repair/recovery.
So with this our version of the phone should be just around the corner ^_^ , lets hope for no delays!
i got tired of waiting and got myself the Exynos version. using on Bell now, loving it. Didnt even have to setup access point for data.
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i got tired of waiting and got myself the Exynos version. using on Bell now, loving it. Didnt even have to setup access point for data.
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What model from what region did you get? Most likely though you do not have the LTE access with the imported phone or only 2600MHz band in select few citys which isn't very good.
got the 910U...says 4G...im finding it way faster than my G3 that was on LTE???
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i got tired of waiting and got myself the Exynos version. using on Bell now, loving it. Didnt even have to setup access point for data.
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From where? What was the total price?
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got the 910U...says 4G...im finding it way faster than my G3 that was on LTE???
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Do a speed test and post a screen shot please
shollywood said:
got the 910U...says 4G...im finding it way faster than my G3 that was on LTE???
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Often outside of North America a lot of phones firmware's will use the term 4G for H+ (because of a technicality) and then for LTE they will show it as 4GLTE or just LTE.
You should be able to find more information on what the phone is using in the About section.
Thats not the case. It switches between 4G and H+. I use slingplayer everynight on my commute home. There is always minimum 4 spots where the video cuts out for at least 30 seconds each time. Tonight, my first with this device, never happened once. Also the clarity of the pictures and colour was bar far better than any other device ive used. My last 3 devices were Note 3, Z2 and LG G 3. Suggest somewhere for me to do a speed test and ill post results tomorrow.
Hope this info helps people.
Pre Orders gone live with Bell and Pricing revealed!
http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Galaxy-Note-4
$799 CAD Buyout not bad, glad it didn't explode past that point.
They also revealed that the official launch date is the 24th when you mouse over the Order button.
Is it worth paying $650 for the Nexus 6 now or waiting until November and paying $250 through my carrier? What are everyone's thoughts on this matter?
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Is it worth paying $650 for the Nexus 6 now or waiting until November and paying $250 through my carrier? What are everyone's thoughts on this matter?
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its not paying $250 if you are extending your contract. in reality you are paying the $650+. id rather pay the $650 and not go on a contract(pay less then with a contract, like with tmobile). anyways, thats 10 months away, you could probably get the next nexus by then.
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its not paying $250 if you are extending your contract. in reality you are paying the $650+. id rather pay the $650 and not go on a contract(pay less then with a contract, like with tmobile). anyways, thats 10 months away, you could probably get the next nexus by then.
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Funny thing, just checked the play store and they had the 64GB in stock so I bought it.
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Funny thing, just checked the play store and they had the 64GB in stock so I bought it.
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KelevrA_8 said:
Funny thing, just checked the play store and they had the 64GB in stock so I bought it.
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Same here! Just copped a white 64GB one from Motorola.com. Was gonna wait to see what diffs the VZW version had but my guess would be only external branding and preloaded VZW apps so I took the leap of faith.
By November, you'd be wanting to get the next Nexus device. If you are waiting for your contract, just get it from motorola.com through financing and it'll be somewhat a "contract" where you'll pay in 6/12/18 months. If you're on T-Mobile, they don't have contracts and you can do something similar with them as well.
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By November, you'd be wanting to get the next Nexus device. If you are waiting for your contract, just get it from motorola.com through financing and it'll be somewhat a "contract" where you'll pay in 6/12/18 months. If you're on T-Mobile, they don't have contracts and you can do something similar with them as well.
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Only would actually make sense if the next Nexus has a snapdragon 820. If it ends up being an 810, I'd skip it for sure.
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Only would actually make sense if the next Nexus has a snapdragon 820. If it ends up being an 810, I'd skip it for sure.
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I seriously doubt we would get a snapdragon 820. They can't even get 810 out for the masses and qualcomm is under fire by investigators right now by Europe and USA as well as South Korea and recently fined in China.
Besides, I'm at the point where hardware doesn't really matter. Regardless of what snap dragons we have, the hardware is great already.
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I seriously doubt we would get a snapdragon 820. They can't even get 810 out for the masses and qualcomm is under fire by investigators right now by Europe and USA as well as South Korea and recently fined in China.
Besides, I'm at the point where hardware doesn't really matter. Regardless of what snap dragons we have, the hardware is great already.
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The problem with the 810, is that it is a rushed product.
I wouldn't worry about the IP licensing investigations. This stuff was all triggered by China, which doesn't exactly inspire the kind of confidence you would want in the sense of business ethics. So likely, they are playing Chinese business practices against their Chinese competitors. Naturally, the Chinese government is going to want to stand up for their domestic chip makers, regardless of how UNethical they happen to be (and they are orders of magnitude worse than Qualcomm). European and American regulators probably don't have much choice but to launch investigations so that they don't appear to be "letting it slide".
Either way, as with all of this sort of investigations, the end result will be no more strict than a fine, after which, it will be business as usual.
You are right that it is great hardware already, but remember that the world is moving in the direction of having mobile hardware *replace* stationary hardware. 32bit ARM chips are simply not at a point where they can be a viable replacement for a middle-of-the-road x86. An 8-core ARM64? Yeah, now we are into the desktop zone.
I just got off the phone with a kind woman over at Samsung regarding my pre-order, placed on the 3rd of this month. I was simply asking her -- considering both t-mobile and verizon have begun charging/shipping phones -- whether or not I should stick with my order at Samsung directly, or cancel it and go through my provider (Verizon... I know).
She very warmly told me, that Samsung would not be shipping phones until mid-September... I got a little worked up at this point and said "excuse me? I ordered this on the pretense that it would be shipped AT THE LEAST by the 19th" to which she fumbled around for a bit and told me that, "No dear, all Samsung orders are going out mid-September."
Suffice to say - this was rather surprising news and I'm pretty damned upset about it. I think I'll be going ahead and cancelling my order and walking into a store on Friday.
Just a heads up to anyone else waiting (if anyone else is waiting) on Samsung direct.
ETA - I didn't mean to post this in the T-mobile section - my apologies!!
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I just got off the phone with a kind woman over at Samsung regarding my pre-order, placed on the 3rd of this month. I was simply asking her -- considering both t-mobile and verizon have begun charging/shipping phones -- whether or not I should stick with my order at Samsung directly, or cancel it and go through my provider (Verizon... I know).
She very warmly told me, that Samsung would not be shipping phones until mid-September... I got a little worked up at this point and said "excuse me? I ordered this on the pretense that it would be shipped AT THE LEAST by the 19th" to which she fumbled around for a bit and told me that, "No dear, all Samsung orders are going out mid-September."
Suffice to say - this was rather surprising news and I'm pretty damned upset about it. I think I'll be going ahead and cancelling my order and walking into a store on Friday.
Just a heads up to anyone else waiting (if anyone else is waiting) on Samsung direct.
ETA - I didn't mean to post this in the T-mobile section - my apologies!!
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I had also preordered the Coral Blue Note 7 directly from samsung.com and chose T-Mobile as the carrier. After reading your post, I called up samsung customer service too and they told me that those that preordered will be receiving the first batch before August 19th. I'm not sure if its just a T-Mobile thing though, since I see that you ordered from Verizon. Maybe you should try calling Verizon too to verify this information before you cancel.
I actually called back a couple of times to get some kind of statistical honesty... Yeah I know.
Finally I spoke to someone high enough up the ladder who said, "the only people who know when the phones from Samsung will ship, are the corporate execs. Despite what anyone tells you, only carriers can release early, as the manufacturer, we just wait. However, if you did preorder early, you will get your phone around the 19th as we've been told."
It only took me 5 phone calls to get some honesty... Albeit bizarre honesty. ALL I WANTED WAS TO HEAR 'Hey man, I'm gonna ship your phone on Monday!"
BTW I also went with coral blue, ordered on 8/3
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The difference is a carrier branded model vs an unlocked intl model...might be worth the wait to get an unlocked exynos next month than a carrier branded and bootloader locked device now (or within days...)
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The difference is a carrier branded model vs an unlocked intl model...might be worth the wait to get an unlocked exynos next month than a carrier branded and bootloader locked device now (or within days...)
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Yeah I'm realizing that now after I pre-ordered with a presumption that it would be unlocked. I cannot stand a locked bootloader with no root. Going to return it take a $50 hit for a restocking fee lick my wounds wait 2-3 weeks for the international version to come out.. they have them on Amazon already for $980 but you can't order until August 31st. I guess I'll play with this for 2 weeks before I return it cuz I'm getting charged $50 either way for a restocking fee whether I open the box or not... Plus China is getting a version with 6 gigabytes of RAM and 128 gigabytes of storage. That's what we were supposed to get the begin with from what I understand I've been waiting a year for this. I love the Note line..I have owned every Note ever made... in the last few years it feels like they add one thing and take away two! Samsung needs to be Samsung not copy or emulate Apple.. and also listen to the people because in the end it's us who spend our hard-earned money to buy these products they are now costing upwards to $1,000....if they don't... then I'll have to hit the lottery and start my own phone company with an S Pen...I'll call it Snapple....hahaha
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I actually called back a couple of times to get some kind of statistical honesty... Yeah I know.
Finally I spoke to someone high enough up the ladder who said, "the only people who know when the phones from Samsung will ship, are the corporate execs. Despite what anyone tells you, only carriers can release early, as the manufacturer, we just wait. However, if you did preorder early, you will get your phone around the 19th as we've been told."
It only took me 5 phone calls to get some honesty... Albeit bizarre honesty. ALL I WANTED WAS TO HEAR 'Hey man, I'm gonna ship your phone on Monday!"
BTW I also went with coral blue, ordered on 8/3
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Yeah I'm realizing that now after I pre-ordered with a presumption that it would be unlocked. I cannot stand a locked bootloader with no root. Going to return it take a $50 hit for a restocking fee lick my wounds wait 2-3 weeks for the international version to come out.. they have them on Amazon already for $980 but you can't order until August 31st. I guess I'll play with this for 2 weeks before I return it cuz I'm getting charged $50 either way for a restocking fee whether I open the box or not... Plus China is getting a version with 6 gigabytes of RAM and 128 gigabytes of storage. That's what we were supposed to get the begin with from what I understand I've been waiting a year for this. I love the Note line..I have owned every Note ever made... in the last few years it feels like they add one thing and take away two! Samsung needs to be Samsung not copy or emulate Apple.. and also listen to the people because in the end it's us who spend our hard-earned money to buy these products they are now costing upwards to $1,000....if they don't... then I'll have to hit the lottery and start my own phone company with an S Pen...I'll call it Snapple....hahaha
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Lol here's the deal- money talk and sh*t walks. Samsung will make WAY more money from idiots who haven't a clue what a bootloader even is thru samsung pay alone than what they'd lose if EVERY XDA member who's ever registered decided not to buy because of it...it's a no brainer for them. And as much as I've loved my Note devices (all of them since the N2) it's a real kick in the teeth smh makes me not want to buy one at all smh except I'll just wait on the 930F or get the Chinese 6gb model imported and activate on BYOD...
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It's one of the things that bugs me. I bought s8 plus when it came out and now you can buy it for $675, which means second hand value has plummeted. Contrast this with my iPhone 7+ which i recently sold for about $100 less than i bought it for when that came out. I think k Samsung does it on purpose as a way to make their older devices compete with newer LG, iPhone etc but it should be a consideration when purchasing.
Simple answer... because it is not an Apple. Any device that is not an Apple devalues quite fast. I noticed that Google phones hold their value quite well though. But they also only release one phone a year like apple does. Unlike other OEM's that release 2-3 phones a year. Just my opinion btw.
Because Samsung heavily discounts the devices very quickly. There are really only 3 phones should be able to hold value, Pixel, iPhone and Samsung's. If Samsung didn't make huge discounts so quick they would hold their value.
For instance look at the Pixel, Google didn't discount it and it has held well
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Not unique to Samsung. The LG V20 for example was £550 when released and now is £300 on ebay for a new device. This price drop will kill v20 prices. If you want to keep value of a commodity Android device, then buy a Vertu!
EDIT - how is this thread relevant to the Note8? Perhaps a troll thread.
Samsung devices devalue so quickly because Samsung pumps out so many phones in one year. And, they have 2 premium phones that release every year. This makes Samsung discount their newer phones after a few months, which causes the phones to devalue.
^this, supposedly they shipped 20 million S8's already... saturation!
Again, why this thread in a Note8 forum? If you can't justify cost of the Note8 then don't buy one.
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Again, why this thread in a Note8 forum? If you can't justify cost of the Note8 then don't buy one.
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This is a discussion forum. It's not a troll. Just a concern.
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This is a discussion forum. It's not a troll. Just a concern.
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This is a Note8 sub forum not a general have a go at Sammy forum. This thread should be entitled "Concern About Note8 Resale Value".
I always used to jump into the latest and pre-orde... For my s8+ Spent close to 600 $ and tied to a 2 year horrible plan...two month later they were selling it for 99 for the same plan.. Was so pissed off...
So I am going to wait it out for a few months and then get note 8...
So let it get devalued fast
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I always used to jump into the latest and pre-orde... For my s8+ Spent close to 600 $ and tied to a 2 year horrible plan...two month later they were selling it for 99 for the same plan.. Was so pissed off...
So I am going to wait it out for a few months and then get note 8...
So let it get devalued fast
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Maybe the devices lose value so quickly because they never were worth that much to begin with. Not saying they are cheap but they are taking in the dough at your expense. I mean do you think the cost price that mobile companies pay is almost a g? Only devices that sell close to cost are iphones. But iPhones bring subscribers so companies accept the cost of business.
If people didn't rush out to buy them and held on to devices longer we wouldn't see these high prices at release but we keep jumping on the hype train so we don't to ourselves.
Then the flip around is oh man it's time to upgrade, well I'm not gonna pay that much for the note but this s8 plus is close enough and cheaper. So now you get this wave of people seeing the note hype but not wanting to pay as much so you go buy the last s series.
On top of everything you guys said, the other problem about keeping value up is updates. They do not keep updating like Apple so if you buy last year's model chances are you will not get this year's Android version. I hope Note 8 continues to get updates but I won't hold my breath. For this reason I stopped buying Samsung devices, but I really want a note back.
The value of such devices is also highly linked to the country one lives. The USA always seems to get great deals.
In this country the consumer is identified as an inconvenience to the stores and not seen as their source of income.
Prices here hold very VERY well on all goods.
I only make certain purchases here that I need a fast response to if a problem arises otherwise I buy from another country.
Samsung, for instance, have given zero 'offers' to those who suffered the situation with both past iterations of the Note 7 despite great inconvenience to the customer. They simply have this attitude of 'who gives a crap about the customer'.
If I didn't need the S-pen I would be certainly buying the new LG V30. As it is Samsung have the monopoly on smart phones with a pen.
Ryland
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Ryland Johnson said:
Samsung, for instance, have given zero 'offers' to those who suffered the situation with both past iterations of the Note 7 despite great inconvenience to the customer. They simply have this attitude of 'who gives a crap about the customer'.
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If Verizon hadn't already shipped my Note 8, Samsung would have lost a customer over their poor handling of the Note 7 fiasco. After comparing the Note 8 to the V30 I had decided to cancel my pre-order but I was too late, it had already shipped. The V30 is a huge improvement over the V20 and costs so much less than the Note 8. I was also irritated at the lack of incentives for Note 7 customers other than trading in another device. I can't say without the V30 in hand but it seems to be almost identical build quality and specs for a much lower price. Better watch your back Samsung.
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On top of everything you guys said, the other problem about keeping value up is updates. They do not keep updating like Apple so if you buy last year's model chances are you will not get this year's Android version. I hope Note 8 continues to get updates but I won't hold my breath. For this reason I stopped buying Samsung devices, but I really want a note back.
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No chance of updates after 18 months after initial release. Google only require their vendors to support the Android OS updates for a short period. I agree, in that respect, Apple is better until they issue an update that takes-up too much of your memory!
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jellyhead said:
phones as well as other electronic devices are not investments.
If Verizon hadn't already shipped my Note 8, Samsung would have lost a customer over their poor handling of the Note 7 fiasco. After comparing the Note 8 to the V30 I had decided to cancel my pre-order but I was too late, it had already shipped. The V30 is a huge improvement over the V20 and costs so much less than the Note 8. I was also irritated at the lack of incentives for Note 7 customers other than trading in another device. I can't say without the V30 in hand but it seems to be almost identical build quality and specs for a much lower price. Better watch your back Samsung.
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I agree the V30 looks great. But, the V20 was selling well below MRP after 6 months. I got my dua SIM 64GB version of the V20 for only £300!! Half the price of the V30. Poor value after 6 months is what happens to most Android phones now given that ZTE and OnePlus make great value devices now.
jellyhead said:
phones as well as other electronic devices are not investments.
If Verizon hadn't already shipped my Note 8, Samsung would have lost a customer over their poor handling of the Note 7 fiasco. After comparing the Note 8 to the V30 I had decided to cancel my pre-order but I was too late, it had already shipped. The V30 is a huge improvement over the V20 and costs so much less than the Note 8. I was also irritated at the lack of incentives for Note 7 customers other than trading in another device. I can't say without the V30 in hand but it seems to be almost identical build quality and specs for a much lower price. Better watch your back Samsung.
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I entirely agree with your first sentence.
You mention your Note 8 has "Shipped"!? I was under the impression we would not receive the Note 8 until at least the 15th of this month. In this country I will be very fortunate to see it until October!
You can always refuse delivery and get your money back.
To me the V30 is strong opposition and competition for the SGS8 not the Note 8, they are two different animals.
If we think about the comparisons being downloaded on Youtube so many compare the note 8 with the fruity iPhone 7? they is zero comparison as they are two two different devices. The iPhone 7 (if one MUST make a comparison) could be debated along side the SGS8 but even then the differences in cost, OS and so many other factors make such comparisons rather false.
So many are waiting to compare the iPhone 8 with the Note 8? Why? If one wants to pay 1200€ for a mobile running IOS then buy the fruity brand, its going to be a superb mobile but unless it comes with a pen and Android ........I am off topic, sorry.
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You mention your Note 8 has "Shipped"!? I was under the impression we would not receive the Note 8 until at least the 15th of this month. In this country I will be very fortunate to see it until October!
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Supposed to arrive Tuesday, Sept 5
jellyhead said:
Supposed to arrive Tuesday, Sept 5
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Please don't answer if you feel it inappropriate. What country are you in? You lucky chap. :good:
Ryland
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Please don't answer if you feel it inappropriate. What country are you in? You lucky chap. :good:
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US West coast
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US West coast
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On the 5th. That's tomorrow! You lucky devil. :good::good::good:
If you want the LG V30 can't you simply refuse delivery of the Note 8 at the door and get a full refund?
With the exception of the fruity brand we have up to 20 days to accept or reject a purchase with or without reason. I assume you have similar protection in the USA? Don't ask how the fruity brand avoid this, once one opens that plastic wrap consider the iPhone yours! There is even a notice in the stores by the fruity brand stand stating this. Grrrr.
I hope things work out for you there is nothing worse than buyers remorse especially at these prices. Let us know what you do in the end.
Ryland :highfive: