I noticed that the Camera always takes HDR photos l, when the Camera app uses the default 'Photo' mode. I alwqys have to switch to 'Pro' when i don't want to use HDR.
You can clearly see the difference, when taking Photos of landscapes with clouds.
There is no way to turn it off, but why?
Did someone also noticed this behavior?
schreda said:
I noticed that the Camera always takes HDR photos l, when the Camera app uses the default 'Photo' mode. I alwqys have to switch to 'Pro' when i don't want to use HDR.
You can clearly see the difference, when taking Photos of landscapes with clouds.
There is no way to turn it off, but why?
Did someone also noticed this behavior?
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You can take non hdr photos. Just take focus at the darker point and it won't use hdr to take a picture.
So why is there a special hdr mode, when it takes hdr pictures by default? I don't get it
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So why is there a special hdr mode, when it takes hdr pictures by default? I don't get it
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i agree its a bad move on Huawei's part.
The HDR effect is too strong on a normal photo.
i think of it as:
Pro = no hdr
Normal Photo = hdr enabled to some extent depending on the dynamic range of the photo ( i.e. if its all a similar brightness then the HDR is very minimal - but if there are very dark and very lights areas it will be a bigger effect )
HDR mode = hyper-real HDR mode
schreda said:
I noticed that the Camera always takes HDR photos l, when the Camera app uses the default 'Photo' mode. I alwqys have to switch to 'Pro' when i don't want to use HDR.
You can clearly see the difference, when taking Photos of landscapes with clouds.
There is no way to turn it off, but why?
Did someone also noticed this behavior?
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Is Master AI off?
Is Master AI off?
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Sure
I find the HDR function excellent and have no reason to ever turn it off. But you're right. For those who want it off, they should provide a no HDR option. The dedicated HDR mode under the 'more' tab should be rebranded as HDR Plus of something.
Yes, I have master AI disabled and I still get to keep the HDR function without the silly suggestions. I really like that.
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I just suspected, HDR mode in camera app that it is a new technology in the hardware or just to take pictures and then adjust the picture brightness to brighten it up which others app it can be done.
It actually takes 3 quick pictures: one is properly exposed (well according to the software), one is over exposed, and one is underexposed. The 3 images are blended together to make one with more dynamic range than just a single photo from this camera can provide.
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jbdan said:
It actually takes 3 quick pictures: one is properly exposed (well according to the software), one is over exposed, and one is underexposed. The 3 images are blended together to make one with more dynamic range than just a single photo from this camera can provide.
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That is what a normal HDR mode is supposed to do. But then Google's HDR+ in the Nexus 5 isn't a normal HDR mode.
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That is what a normal HDR mode is supposed to do. But then Google's HDR+ in the Nexus 5 isn't a normal HDR mode.
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It is simulated HDR. True HDR shots are taken by bracketing the exposure (shutter speed) of an SLR camera (part time photographer here). A cheap little image sensor in a phone can't do this, so it simulates over exposure and under exposure by taking a longer or faster shot from the sensor. Then the camera software automatically combines the images. In a true HDR photo, you need some decent software to merge the bracketed images together, and this usually takes time to tweak everything by hand to make it not looks like ass (see /r/****tyhdr for plenty of examples on how NOT to do this).
Anything claiming to be HDR that is not taken from proper bracketing on an SLR camera is basically simulated HDR.
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It is simulated HDR. True HDR shots are taken by bracketing the exposure (shutter speed) of an SLR camera (part time photographer here). A cheap little image sensor in a phone can't do this, so it simulates over exposure and under exposure by taking a longer or faster shot from the sensor. Then the camera software automatically combines the images. In a true HDR photo, you need some decent software to merge the bracketed images together, and this usually takes time to tweak everything by hand to make it not looks like ass (see /r/****tyhdr for plenty of examples on how NOT to do this).
Anything claiming to be HDR that is not taken from proper bracketing on an SLR camera is basically simulated HDR.
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Well said. I gave the "layman version"
(photography enthusiast here too)
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So coming from a photographer-background i feel that the camera on the P30 Pro is a bit heavy on the HDR. Meaning that it doesn't recreate blacks very well, and in some shot's where shadows would be better left natural, it gives it too much HDR. (Sorry the bad English)
Is there a way to adjust/turn off HDR on this camera?
I believe if you turn off the AI and shoot in auto it shouldn't apply any HDR - but I don't know this to be true.
It's somewhat difficult to get away from the HDR look since when you shoot in Auto mode at 10mpix it utilizes pixelbinning which will kinda look like HDR where highlights are pulled down and shadows are lifted. The only way to get around this is to use a third party camera application or to shoot RAW, and i do recommend you shoot RAW anyways to get away from the heavy overprocessing, noisereduction and sharpening.
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Use pro mode.
Thanks for the reply guys. But I don't have the time to shoot pro and RAW all the time when it comes to smartphone-photos. The phone is for taking quick shots for Instagram-stories and such.
If I want to get a proper shot I pull out my Nikon D800. But there should be an option to adjust the level of HDR in photo mode, turning off "AI" doesn't change much, sadly.
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Thanks for the reply guys. But I don't have the time to shoot pro and RAW all the time when it comes to smartphone-photos. The phone is for taking quick shots for Instagram-stories and such.
If I want to get a proper shot I pull out my Nikon D800. But there should be an option to adjust the level of HDR in photo mode, turning off "AI" doesn't change much, sadly.
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Use pro mode without changing any setting you will be fine.
Just surfing comparisons online and this video shows it goes both ways. Sometimes the P30 Pro pulls out the shadow detail, other times the 6T does:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wevRTMspBIM
This is also bothering me, I turned off the AI on my previous P20 Pro, and this wasn't a problem. But now on the P30 Pro, even if I turn off the AI sometimes photos come out as horribly overprocessed to the extent that the photos can't even be fixed by post processing. The effect is very similar to heavy HDR (or glike going overboard with the Google Photos' Pop effect)
Why is there no burst or time-lapse photo mode?
Time-lapse workaround: The app Intervalometer hijacks the stock camera app and simulates touching the shutter buttons, so you get a programmable time-lapse in all modes, Raw, Night-mode, all the 3 cameras. Probably better than Huawei could ever make it.
As for burst mode: its there if you set the resolution to 10MP or lower, no burst mode for 40MP or with raw files.
Time lapse mode can be found on the last page of the camera options where slow motion , monochrome , moving picture is. To take pictures in burst mode you just press the camera button and it will take pictures in burst mode untill you release it.
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Time lapse mode can be found on the last page of the camera options where.
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No that's a crappy low-res time-lapse video, I'm talking about photos.
Found the burst mode though it has its limitations, that aren't mentioned (how should the user know). They only work in Photo Mode and only if you set the resolution to 10MP or less.
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No that's a crappy low-res time-lapse video, I'm talking about photos.
Found the burst mode though it has its limitations, that aren't mentioned (how should the user know). They only work in Photo Mode and only if you set the resolution to 10MP or less.
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Go in play store, ans download Framelaps application. It is very good. You have so much options. It is taking photos and you can make 4K video, not 720p like in original camera application. Too bad for Huawei that's is not so hard to do.
Only bad thing with Framelaps you cant you Suoer Wide Angle.
Probably can't do a lot of things, like the correct colors for the new sensor. And yes, kind of want that for the ultra wide.
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Probably can't do a lot of things, like the correct colors for the new sensor. And yes, kind of want that for the ultra wide.
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Yes I know but it helps more the p30 pro software camera (stupid 720p).
If you have DJI Osmo 2 you have good application for timelaps. But still no super wide-angle
Timelapse with the original camera app in high quality
Framelapse is not bad, but as mentioned, you can't use wide angle lens nor the quality of the original app. Solution:
Use "intervalometer"! This app is working together with any other camera app. It works as an overlay, means, it's running background and given impulse to the camera button with any desired interval while using the camera settings in the original camera app. You can not only use any interval with any resolution (40mp too) but choose a delay when shooting from day to night. The app costs here in Germany 1,89 €.
Grab a copy of Intervalometer from the Google Play store, then you can shoot your own timelapses with whatever camera application you want. That's what i do and it works great!
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With just one camera and no chance to select the other two, probably wrong colors and no raw files support, useless.
EDIT: Oh wait, this thing is actually useful, its no camera app instead it hijacks what ever is on the screen and simulates a touch in the timed intervall.
So it remote controls the manufactures app with whatever is set there.
Nice. Sorry I dismissed it so fast, I was just expecting another dumb comment but this is really useful.
Exactly, it is one of the best applications i have found on the Google Play store and for this purpose it's fantastic! you can shoot RAW timelapse sequences if you want to, the possibilities are infinite since it's not relying on it's own camera but let's you use any camera application you want. It's worth paying for it since it does such a great job with timelapse photography.
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Ok, the best timelaps is INTERVALOMETAR.
You can use every mode, normal, super wide angle, HDR, Night mode, zoom and etc...
The option for adjusting rear camera photo is missing in the default camera app. The highest setting reported from other camera app is 4096x3072. Any idea? Stock x30 Pro. Thank you.
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The option for adjusting rear camera photo is missing in the default camera app. The highest setting reported from other camera app is 4096x3072. Any idea? Stock x30 Pro. Thank you.
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there is not, only for front cam, depends on the mode and the ratio 4:3 is 200Mpx at ultra res mode for example
There is "Ultra-res" mode where you can shoot with 200MP. It is slow. I hope it will become better after some update.
The 50MP mode is a little tricky to find - it is called "Smart high resolution" in the setting of the Photo mode. It is turned on when there is "enough" light for it and you don't have any control over that mode.
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there is not, only for front cam, depends on the mode and the ratio 4:3 is 200Mpx at ultra res mode for example
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Thx all, I really missed out the Ultra Res mode. The interface is kind of counterintuitive, especially the drop down menu, I'd call it a hidden feature.
Hello,
I noticed that certain photos no longer seem to have any HDR applied. Is it when using certain lenses?
I'll see shots that have one part underexposed/too dark. Or, other shots will have blown out highlights too bright. That didn't happen before, because the phone would automatically apply HDR to get good exposure on the bright and dark spots.
Attached is the latest example, where the dark parts of the lighthouse are underexposed, because the camera set the exposure based on the bright clouds.
Anyone else notice that HDR never kicks in? What settings could cause this?
I'm running the Good Lock add-on called "Camera Assistant" so I wonder if that is interfering with HDR? The settings for Camera Assistant are turned off for Picture Softening and Auto lens switching, but I'm not sure why that would prevent auto HDR from kicking on?
In my Samsung camera app, the setting for "Auto HDR" is turned on.
For comparison, I've attached a wide-lens photo showing a more accurate exposure of the same lighthouse. I'm not sure why the normal 1x shot has proper exposure for the lighthouse, but the telephoto shot underexposes the lighthouse? Why didn't the telephoto use HDR like it normally would in earlier versions of the software?