Hello all,
I have the Note 8 from last year and the new Note 9 that came with the new Bixby 2.0 this year. I like how sleek and refined looking the new Bixby is this year, but it's seriously dumber than the older Bixby that's on my Note 8!
Some of the common commands I give that works on my Note 8:
Turn on/off Fast Charging
Turn on/off Fast Wireless Charging
Save my location as my home
Check for app updates in the Play Store
When I ask the note 9 to turn on/off Fast Charging, it instead goes to optimize my Battery. When I ask it to turn off my fast wireless charging, it turns off Wifi instead! It couldn't even understand anything about checking for updates in the Play Store, whereas the Note 8 could do it very well (sort of currently).
What gives Samsung? Technology and AI is supposed to be smarter, but this time it's pretty stupid to not understanding basic system commands.
Still trying to figure out which is dumber... Using bixby or posting about how dumb bixby button is. ???.
Ok, Google. Whup bixby's ass.
@rbiter said:
Still trying to figure out which is dumber... Using bixby or posting about how dumb bixby button is. ?.
Ok, Google. Whup bixby's ass.
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Bixby has its merits. I still use Google 95% of the time due to its smooth performance searching things as well as having 110% accuracy in understanding over Bixby. It's just for some of the specific functions of the phone itself that I want to see how Bixby does that made the Note 8 pretty well.
I really don't have a problem with the Bixby button since I rarely make the same mistake as the general population does with it. This post is really about the Bixby AI itself and how it became less functional than the older version.
Samsung is trying to force it on us. They know it will get better much slower, if at all, if people don't use it. Just look at Siri. Look how fast Alexa made a come up because... Well you gotta give up something to make progress orove forward.
Who would have thought 10 years ago people are paying a premium for the government to spy on them, Siri included. I could see using smart home stuff/IOT if setup properly to maximize the benefits. But most people do not and have not given thought to the many ways. (like very granular A/C and building a proper roof that doesn't trap heat or utilizing that heat to positive energy)
If Google gave up advertising I would use Google assistant more. Heck, I'd probably give in and pay something on a subscription for no ads all the way across my Google apps and Android. Not going to happen if people keep buying that dedicated stuff and putting up with ads and spying. Until then I wear an invisible tin foil hat.
guys dont bash Bixby. if they phase it out, we loose the button.
GigaSPX said:
Hello all,
I have the Note 8 from last year and the new Note 9 that came with the new Bixby 2.0 this year. I like how sleek and refined looking the new Bixby is this year, but it's seriously dumber than the older Bixby that's on my Note 8!
Some of the common commands I give that works on my Note 8:
Turn on/off Fast Charging
Save my location as my home
Check for app updates in the Play Store
When I ask the note 9 to turn on/off Fast Charging, it instead goes to optimize my Battery. When I ask it to turn off my fast wireless charging, it turns off Wifi instead! It couldn't even understand anything about checking for updates in the Play Store, whereas the Note 8 could do it very well (sort of currently).
What gives Samsung? Technology and AI is supposed to be smarter, but this time it's pretty stupid to not understanding basic system commands.
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I've still not set up Bixby. The main problem is it's inability to recognize your voice.
RaymondPJR said:
I've still not set up Bixby. The main problem is it's inability to recognize your voice.
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I trained box y on the note 9 to recognise my voice. I also have a note 8 in the same room. When saying hi bixby the note 8 responds but the note 9 doesn't. I think bixby 2.0 is still in its infancy whereas bixby 1.0 on the note 8 is refined. Pity we have to use bixby 2.0 on the note 9.
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I agree, I was so hoping it would be Bixby 1 but with improvements to speech recognition and a refinement. Instead, it's like a completely different, stripped out version
xMadMike said:
I agree, I was so hoping it would be Bixby 1 but with improvements to speech recognition and a refinement. Instead, it's like a completely different, stripped out version
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GigaSPX said:
Hello all,
I have the Note 8 from last year and the new Note 9 that came with the new Bixby 2.0 this year. I like how sleek and refined looking the new Bixby is this year, but it's seriously dumber than the older Bixby that's on my Note 8!
Some of the common commands I give that works on my Note 8:
Turn on/off Fast Charging
Turn on/off Fast Wireless Charging
Save my location as my home
Check for app updates in the Play Store
When I ask the note 9 to turn on/off Fast Charging, it instead goes to optimize my Battery. When I ask it to turn off my fast wireless charging, it turns off Wifi instead! It couldn't even understand anything about checking for updates in the Play Store, whereas the Note 8 could do it very well (sort of currently).
What gives Samsung? Technology and AI is supposed to be smarter, but this time it's pretty stupid to not understanding basic system commands.
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Hello
I just bought a note 9, and the main reason I buy notes is s-pen and bixby. Now on note 9, none of my quick commands work, I cannot get bixby voice to recognize my voice, other than 'Hi Bixby'. What use the update, if it completely disables the app? The app is all the time trying to communicate to the network, cannot connect to the network and so cannot carry out any commands.
I am seriously thinking of returning the note 9 (I got it from samsung.com), and will keep my note 8.
thanks
thanks
tahrang said:
Hello
I just bought a note 9, and the main reason I buy notes is s-pen and bixby. Now on note 9, none of my quick commands work, I cannot get bixby voice to recognize my voice, other than 'Hi Bixby'. What use the update, if it completely disables the app? The app is all the time trying to communicate to the network, cannot connect to the network and so cannot carry out any commands.
I am seriously thinking of returning the note 9 (I got it from samsung.com), and will keep my note 8.
thanks
thanks
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Bixby is terrible, like the general public agrees on, but the phone itself is not. I have both the Note 8 and Note 9, and the Note 9 is a wonderful upgrade from the Note 8. Bigger battery, better camera, and a nicer "whiter" screen.
I mainly use Google Assistant anyways, and it's a much better assistant AI anyway. On both Bixbys, it doesn't really recognize the names I tell it to call unlike Google having utmost accuracy.
tahrang said:
Hello
I just bought a note 9, and the main reason I buy notes is s-pen and bixby. Now on note 9, none of my quick commands work, I cannot get bixby voice to recognize my voice, other than 'Hi Bixby'. What use the update, if it completely disables the app? The app is all the time trying to communicate to the network, cannot connect to the network and so cannot carry out any commands.
I am seriously thinking of returning the note 9 (I got it from samsung.com), and will keep my note 8.
thanks
thanks
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Returning a Note9 in favor of the Note8 due to Bixby being bad... When Google Assistant is readily available... Whoa. Brain cannot compute this...
PsiPhiDan said:
Returning a Note9 in favor of the Note8 due to Bixby being bad... When Google Assistant is readily available... Whoa. Brain cannot compute this...
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You think that's funny? Go read some of the reasons for returning and never "ever" buying Samsung again from the official Samsung forums . [emoji1787]
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You think that's funny? Go read some of the reasons for returning and never "ever" buying Samsung again from the official Samsung forums . [emoji1787]
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I concur. Returning this phone because Bixby sucks has to be the silliest reason I've ever heard, considering that Google Assistant is available and is light years ahead of Bixby. I haven't even set Bixby up on my phone and I don't see why I would ever want to.
And perhaps there are reasons to return this phone, but people hyperventilating on the official forums (or anywhere on the internet) have to be taken with a huge grain of salt.
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I concur. Returning this phone because Bixby sucks has to be the silliest reason I've ever heard, considering that Google Assistant is available and is light years ahead of Bixby. I haven't even set Bixby up on my phone and I don't see why I would ever want to.
And perhaps there are reasons to return this phone, but people hyperventilating on the official forums (or anywhere on the internet) have to be taken with a huge grain of salt.
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Returning a Note9 in favor of the Note8 due to Bixby being bad... When Google Assistant is readily available... Whoa. Brain cannot compute this...
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I am really sorry, you feel that I am hyperventilating. I was agreeing to the original post.
Secondly, whatever your reasons for not using Bixby or preferring one AI to another, that is not enough reason to make fun of others.
Thank you both for your very kind words.
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You think that's funny? Go read some of the reasons for returning and never "ever" buying Samsung again from the official Samsung forums . [emoji1787]
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tahrang said:
I am really sorry, you feel that I am hyperventilating. I was agreeing to the original post.
Secondly, whatever your reasons for not using Bixby or preferring one AI to another, that is not enough reason to make fun of others.
Thank you both for your very kind words.
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Regarding the hyperventilating comment, I wasn't talking about you, but rather the people who are hyperventilating on the official forums. That was in reference to your comment regarding people "never buying a Samsung again."
As to your second comment, nobody was making fun of you, certainly not me. If you feel slighted, please point out where in my post you found offense. Life becomes very difficult when one is overly sensitive. Did I think your overall complaint was ridiculous? Absolutely. Nobody, and I really do mean nobody buys this phone because of Bixby. It offers no additional functionality over the built in Google assistant, and most people don't even set it up. I haven't seen a single review of this device that even mentioned Bixby and useful in the same paragraph. It is just like the old SVoice that Samsung forced on all of us on their older phones, and nobody ever used it. But by all means, feel free to never buy another Samsung device again. Just don't expect Bixby on anything else other than Samsung. With an apple phone you'll get siri and Google assistant, with Samsung you get Bixby and Google assistant, and every other phone comes with just Google assistant.
Look, I get it. Nobody showed you Google assistant, you set up Bixby and were used to using it. Do yourself a favor, set up Google assistant, turn on the "OK Google" voice command, and whenever you need something, say "OK Google" and tell it what you want. Works when the phone is locked, works when you're driving, works completely hands free, just works. And then metaphorically toss Bixby into the garbage where it belongs.
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I concur. Returning this phone because Bixby sucks has to be the silliest reason I've ever heard, considering that Google Assistant is available and is light years ahead of Bixby. I haven't even set Bixby up on my phone and I don't see why I would ever want to.
And perhaps there are reasons to return this phone, but people hyperventilating on the official forums (or anywhere on the internet) have to be taken with a huge grain of salt.
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Returning a Note9 in favor of the Note8 due to Bixby being bad... When Google Assistant is readily available... Whoa. Brain cannot compute this...
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Regarding the hyperventilating comment, I wasn't talking about you, but rather the people who are hyperventilating on the official forums. That was in reference to your comment regarding people "never buying a Samsung again."
As to your second comment, nobody was making fun of you, certainly not me. If you feel slighted, please point out where in my post you found offense. Life becomes very difficult when one is overly sensitive. Did I think your overall complaint was ridiculous? Absolutely. Nobody, and I really do mean nobody buys this phone because of Bixby. It offers no additional functionality over the built in Google assistant, and most people don't even set it up. I haven't seen a single review of this device that even mentioned Bixby and useful in the same paragraph. It is just like the old SVoice that Samsung forced on all of us on their older phones, and nobody ever used it. But by all means, feel free to never buy another Samsung device again. Just don't expect Bixby on anything else other than Samsung. With an apple phone you'll get siri and Google assistant, with Samsung you get Bixby and Google assistant, and every other phone comes with just Google assistant.
Look, I get it. Nobody showed you Google assistant, you set up Bixby and were used to using it. Do yourself a favor, set up Google assistant, turn on the "OK Google" voice command, and whenever you need something, say "OK Google" and tell it what you want. Works when the phone is locked, works when you're driving, works completely hands free, just works. And then metaphorically toss Bixby into the garbage where it belongs.
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I never commented on the "never buying samsung again" post.
As for bixby, I use it for device maintenance commands mostly. And I have setup google assistant, and use that for most internet related queries etc. So I use both on Note phones, but on my tablets, I use google assistant.
tahrang said:
I never commented on the "never buying samsung again" post.
As for bixby, I use it for device maintenance commands mostly. And I have setup google assistant, and use that for most internet related queries etc. So I use both on Note phones, but on my tablets, I use google assistant.
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Wait, so you took offense to a reply I made regarding a post that wasn't even yours? I guess I should have been more careful and checked that the person offended by what I wrote wasn't even the person whom I replied to, but you can surely understand my presumption. I mean, I even quoted the posted I was replying to.
But OK, I'll bite. What exactly do you need Bixby to do? What device maintenance commands does it help you with.
This is from the original post:
- Turn on/off Fast Charging
- Turn on/off Fast Wireless Charging
- Save my location as my home
- Check for app updates in the Play Store
For the first 2, my only question is why? How often do you need to toggle it? I've had a GS 7 Edge for 2 years and not once did I need to disable fast charging. No battery degradation either. The 3rd one needs to be done only once I presume. The last one updates automatically over wifi once you are charging. If you don't have it set up that way, you should. And just about everything else is quickly accessible through the notification menu. I am genuinely curious, maybe there is a compelling reason for me to set up Bixby instead of having that dedicated button be a nuisance that gets accidentally pressed all the time.
Bixby use
sputnik767 said:
I concur. Returning this phone because Bixby sucks has to be the silliest reason I've ever heard, considering that Google Assistant is available and is light years ahead of Bixby. I haven't even set Bixby up on my phone and I don't see why I would ever want to.
And perhaps there are reasons to return this phone, but people hyperventilating on the official forums (or anywhere on the internet) have to be taken with a huge grain of salt.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Returning a Note9 in favor of the Note8 due to Bixby being bad... When Google Assistant is readily available... Whoa. Brain cannot compute this...
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sputnik767 said:
Wait, so you took offense to a reply I made regarding a post that wasn't even yours? I guess I should have been more careful and checked that the person offended by what I wrote wasn't even the person whom I replied to, but you can surely understand my presumption. I mean, I even quoted the posted I was replying to.
But OK, I'll bite. What exactly do you need Bixby to do? What device maintenance commands does it help you with.
This is from the original post:
- Turn on/off Fast Charging
- Turn on/off Fast Wireless Charging
- Save my location as my home
- Check for app updates in the Play Store
For the first 2, my only question is why? How often do you need to toggle it? I've had a GS 7 Edge for 2 years and not once did I need to disable fast charging. No battery degradation either. The 3rd one needs to be done only once I presume. The last one updates automatically over wifi once you are charging. If you don't have it set up that way, you should. And just about everything else is quickly accessible through the notification menu. I am genuinely curious, maybe there is a compelling reason for me to set up Bixby instead of having that dedicated button be a nuisance that gets accidentally pressed all the time.
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No, not any of the above maintenance tasks.
I use (used) bixby for - (at night time)
changing power saving to mid
lowering volumes
cleaning memory
clearing space
The thing is I could put all the above commands in one quick command, and with bixby wake-up with voice pwd, Bixby would perform these without me having to even touch the phone. Of course, now with samsung removing the wake-up with voice pwd, I have to physically unlock the phone.
Yes, I have activated the do not disturb (time-based), so maybe the volume command was not needed
Now, since bixby is no longer working as it was previously, I did find something else to replace that. I tried using IFTTT, but that didn't have the above commands, only completely mute the phone, which I don't want.
I am using routines, which is available through Good Lock on samsung app store (not in google play).
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Although some people have a use for Bixby, I'm not one of them. I tried to remap the button with BX Buttons (?), but it didn't work for me.
I was using Package Disabler Pro on two previous Samsung phones and tablets, so I thought I'd try it on the Note 9. As discussed elsewhere on this forum, that version of the app doesn't work on the Note 9. I bought the recommended Package Disabler Pro + from policedeveloper and it worked fine on the Note 9.
Using the new Package Disabler, I killed all the Bixby apps, which made the button totally inert. I wish I could have remapped it, but at least now I don't accidentally bring up Bixby all the time.
mojoehand said:
Although some people have a use for Bixby, I'm not one of them. I tried to remap the button with BX Buttons (?), but it didn't work for me.
I was using Package Disabler Pro on two previous Samsung phones and tablets, so I thought I'd try it on the Note 9. As discussed elsewhere on this forum, that version of the app doesn't work on the Note 9. I bought the recommended Package Disabler Pro + from policedeveloper and it worked fine on the Note 9.
Using the new Package Disabler, I killed all the Bixby apps, which made the button totally inert. I wish I could have remapped it, but at least now I don't accidentally bring up Bixby all the time.
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looking up the package disabler from policedeveloper now. thanks!
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I have Moto360 and it's supposed to keep the phone unlocked. Well, once in a while (at least once per day) it doesn't work so I decided to add a Trusted Location (my house). This made it worse because there seems to be some sort of "race condition" and I get a lot more issues at work now. Basically it seems like it's seeing that I'm not home and skips the check of Moto360 presence all-together. I also added an NFC tag (for my car in case I forget Moto360 at home). So having these 3 settings enabled at once makes this a worse experience than just with Moto360 (which isn't reliable to begin with)
Anyway, this unlocking mechanism is one big mess and hasn't been reliable for me. I understand that it's better to be safe than sorry but these are clear bugs.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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I have Moto360 and it's supposed to keep the phone unlocked. Well, once in a while (at least once per day) it doesn't work so I decided to add a Trusted Location (my house). This made it worse because there seems to be some sort of "race condition" and I get a lot more issues at work now. Basically it seems like it's seeing that I'm not home and skips the check of Moto360 presence all-together. I also added an NFC tag (for my car in case I forget Moto360 at home). So having these 3 settings enabled at once makes this a worse experience than just with Moto360 (which isn't reliable to begin with)
Anyway, this unlocking mechanism is one big mess and hasn't been reliable for me. I understand that it's better to be safe than sorry but these are clear bugs.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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That's strange. I have the same setup except my car's BT is a trusted pair also.
No issues here.
Dusty Rhodes said:
That's strange. I have the same setup except my car's BT is a trusted pair also.
No issues here.
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Is the BT in ur car capable to read your text msg? My note 4 use do it perfect but nexus is not option is grayed out on my car screen.
My home and work are "trusted places" and it works about 50% of the time. At work it barely works...My Nexus 5 was the same way. It is probably a thing on Google's end that they need to update.
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I have Moto360 and it's supposed to keep the phone unlocked. Well, once in a while (at least once per day) it doesn't work so I decided to add a Trusted Location (my house). This made it worse because there seems to be some sort of "race condition" and I get a lot more issues at work now. Basically it seems like it's seeing that I'm not home and skips the check of Moto360 presence all-together. I also added an NFC tag (for my car in case I forget Moto360 at home). So having these 3 settings enabled at once makes this a worse experience than just with Moto360 (which isn't reliable to begin with)
Anyway, this unlocking mechanism is one big mess and hasn't been reliable for me. I understand that it's better to be safe than sorry but these are clear bugs.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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i'm not experiencing this at all. i've had it working with my N5 flawlessly (before i got my N6) as well. if your phone isn't showing that you're at home, your location services might be turned off though.
worst case is that you back up your settings and try a clean wipe/reflash and see if it's working as expected.
*EDIT* are you sure that you're not accidentally hitting the little lock/unlock icon at the bottom of the screen? that will lock it regardless of the trusted devices/location settings.
NICEGYPT said:
Is the BT in ur car capable to read your text msg? My note 4 use do it perfect but nexus is not option is grayed out on my car screen.
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Mine could work but I use hangouts as my messaging app and THAT doesn't work.
So that you know what I'm working with, I have a 2012 Mustang GT with MyFordTouch.
Dusty Rhodes said:
Mine could work but I use hangouts as my messaging app and THAT doesn't work.
So that you know what I'm working with, I have a 2012 Mustang GT with MyFordTouch.
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I have a 2014 Charger with Uconnect
Lucke said:
*EDIT* are you sure that you're not accidentally hitting the little lock/unlock icon at the bottom of the screen? that will lock it regardless of the trusted devices/location settings.
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Wow, that could be it! I didn't even realize this icon is there and I often unlock from the very bottom (old habits). I will pay attention from now on and hopefully this is exactly what it was.
Thank you!
T-R said:
Wow, that could be it! I didn't even realize this icon is there and I often unlock from the very bottom (old habits). I will pay attention from now on and hopefully this is exactly what it was.
Thank you!
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Haha I had the same problem til I realized this
Like the title says. When the phone is screen off but plugged in, OK Google isn't recognized. Works fine if screen is on. In my Google / Voice settings I have turned on Say Ok Google Anytime and Trusted Voice to unlock.
It worked fine on my LG G3 previously before I came to the 3T.
Any ideas?
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For me also not works
This is proving to be very annoying.
I tried the Now Launcher to see if it would fix this problem (I was going to use it anyway since autorotate seems broken with stock Launcher).
Now launcher doesn't change the situation. Does anybody have a work-around? This is the first phone/os that I have had this problem with.
Help!
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When i tried, it says there is locked screen (i have fingerprinted lock screen), but when i recognized and accepted, it had no reaction. Do you tried only swiped lock screen?
Tried a bunch of things. When screen is off (but charging)I haven't found any combination of settings that work. I use a fingerprint but noticed problem before setting up the fingerprint. Also have set that my voice can be trusted to unlock; also in my car the phone is unlocked as a trusted Bluetooth device.
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For me sometimes it has vibration, sometimes it says that phone are locked. But still not works "ok google" on black screen
I guess what does it means. When you press unlcok button, if there is swipe or something, it unlocks device when you say "ok google"
I have the same problem..ok Google does not work when the screen is off..bt works fine when the screen is on
I've asked this question over in the OnePlus community forum on OnePlus.net. I don't think the readership there is as savvy as here though. I've already gotten some patently wrong answers. I'm still hoping someone can suggest a fix or at least work-around.
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I guess what does it means. When you press unlcok button, if there is swipe or something, it unlocks device when you say "ok google"
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I have that option checked and it still stops working for me if I haven't used my device for more than 5 minutes.
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I also would like to use OK Google with the screen off.
This has been driving me a bit crazy. I can't imagine what is blocking it from working. Glad to hear it isn't just me experiencing it... At least I am not alone.
I can't imagine it is a technology gap on the phone... That would only apply to screen off / not charging cases. Microphone certainly can work with screen off... For example talking on phone the screen shuts off in proximity to the head. And it's not a power issue, since this use case includes charging.
Somewhere there must be a hidden toggle for some feature set the wrong way.
Anybody have skills to investigate?
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you can't.
always listening isn't enabled on our phone (something about licensing with qualcomm).
I don't need always listening... I need listening while charging. Even phones from 5 years ago do this...
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again, you can't. IT IS NOT ENABLED ON OUR PHONE.
Yes, my nexus from years ago can do it.
but no, our 3T will NOT do it.
exb0 said:
again, you can't. IT IS NOT ENABLED ON OUR PHONE.
Yes, my nexus from years ago can do it.
but no, our 3T will NOT do it.
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This kind of makes hands-free driving and home voice actions pointless.
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again, you can't. IT IS NOT ENABLED ON OUR PHONE.
Yes, my nexus from years ago can do it.
but no, our 3T will NOT do it.
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Thanks for the reply. What exactly isn't enabled... or better asked, at what level is it not enabled? The SnapDragon 821 has support for it. So, perhaps this will come in an update or a custom ROM. Or is there some other layer which needs to be developed that OP currently hasn't?
It's beyond shocking that a major feature ... voice response while driving ... would be crippled in a recent model phone. And, I am ignorant of what exactly needs to work. The microphone works fine when the screen is off, and I have no concerns about battery performance when plugged in and charging, so an app should be able to be told to listen to the microphone under these circumstances.
Any further info about what's missing would be greatly appreciated!
It worked for a short time for me. I could say, "ok google" with the screen off, but I'm guessing the app updated or a rom changed one little thing and now it's a pain in the ass.
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cbwhat said:
This kind of makes hands-free driving and home voice actions pointless.
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Uhh, yeah. That's why you keep the screen on.
Frankenscript said:
Thanks for the reply. What exactly isn't enabled... or better asked, at what level is it not enabled? The SnapDragon 821 has support for it. So, perhaps this will come in an update or a custom ROM. Or is there some other layer which needs to be developed that OP currently hasn't?
It's beyond shocking that a major feature ... voice response while driving ... would be crippled in a recent model phone. And, I am ignorant of what exactly needs to work. The microphone works fine when the screen is off, and I have no concerns about battery performance when plugged in and charging, so an app should be able to be told to listen to the microphone under these circumstances.
Any further info about what's missing would be greatly appreciated!
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Yes, the 821 has support for always listening. However, the phone company (OnePlus) has to pay the SOC company (qualcomm) in order to use always listening (more on always listening later). Is it possible for a developer to somehow enable it? Yes. As seen with the Ok Snapdragon concept with the nexus 4, we can indeed enable it. However due to legal issues, that mod was never released.
Another reason is marketing. Motorola was able to promote their Moto X Pure so much because it had their custom "Ok Google" thingiemajig. If every phone had always listening, why buy a nexus / pixel / moto?
If you want the phone to listen and respond to your voice actions while the screen is off, regardless of whether or not it's plugged in, you need always listening. Unless you're in a call, of course.
I've heard that PA and/or CM managed to make a hackaround this for other OP phones, but I cannot confirm that it actually exists as I have never looked into it.
Great explanation. Thank you
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So I've just got my note 9 and was trying out Bixby voice and the voice wake up is not working. I can see that when I say hi Bixby it hears me because in the notifications something appears in the right corner for a brief moment but it doesn't do anything.
I had the same problem on my note 8 but was not using Bixby much. On the note 9 Bixby 2.0 seems much better and I would like to use it but this bug is really annoying especially because it's a new phone and new version of Bixby so I was hoping they would fix it.
Does anyone have any idea how to solve this?
I have the exact same issue. When I first turned on the phone it was working. After installing all the app's from my previous phone and synchronized with all accounts it started acting up like that. I suspect an app is the culprit....
I have the same problem as well on unlocked phone Bixby sometimes hears me and sometimes the Bixby will show in notification bar then disappear. Also same goes with saying ok Google or hey Google does not respond but when i press the microphone button to talk to her she hears my words ok without missing any.
Mpuljko said:
So I've just got my note 9 and was trying out Bixby voice and the voice wake up is not working. I can see that when I say hi Bixby it hears me because in the notifications something appears in the right corner for a brief moment but it doesn't do anything.
I had the same problem on my note 8 but was not using Bixby much. On the note 9 Bixby 2.0 seems much better and I would like to use it but this bug is really annoying especially because it's a new phone and new version of Bixby so I was hoping they would fix it.
Does anyone have any idea how to solve this?
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When i had this similar issues on my Note 8 ,
with Bixby and Google Assistant
I pinpointed it to the Edge lighting app. I stopped using Edge lighting and issues were fixed.
There's a topic of this issues, somewhere in Note 8 forum.
On my Note 9 i don't use Bixby and don't use Edge lighting.
So cannot comment on Bixby
Overall got no issues with Google Assistant
waking phone.
Yes, maybe it has happened once or twice that
Google Assistant does not respond.
Otherwise it's working fine.
I presumed Bixby should then also work
as on my old Note 8.
Hi people I've got unlocked note 9 on BTU but been having problems with Google assistant not constantly opening with my voice even thou I've redone the voice loads of time. Also when Dolby atmos is on when i say ok Google it will open up and then it will type *ok Google* again as if that's what i was saying to it. Anyone encountered those problems? And biometrics not always recognising me 100% of the time.
Also have GA not always hearing me and having to repeat the command. Biometrics, iris and face, again not being 100 % reliable so I just left the fingerprint active. Interesting about Dolby, with it off ok google not typed on screen?
raul6 said:
Also have GA not always hearing me and having to repeat the command. Biometrics, iris and face, again not being 100 % reliable so I just left the fingerprint active. Interesting about Dolby, with it off ok google not typed on screen?
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I'm hoping it's the 8.1 being a little buggy. No when its switched off it don't write ok Google on the screen.
I'm having the exact same issue, with it typing OK Google also. Wasn't aware this was connected to Dolby Atmos but will try and test with it on and off.
This is definitely a Note 9 issue as previously with my note 8, the Google assistant would respond quickly from across the room and accurately.
The Note 9 seems to have a 2 second delay and doesn't accurately pick up what I'm saying the majority of the time. Could this be a microphone issue?
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I'm having the exact same issue, with it typing OK Google also. Wasn't aware this was connected to Dolby Atmos but will try and test with it on and off.
This is definitely a Note 9 issue as previously with my note 8, the Google assistant would respond quickly from across the room and accurately.
The Note 9 seems to have a 2 second delay and doesn't accurately pick up what I'm saying the majority of the time. Could this be a microphone issue?
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Maybe it's a ploy of Samsung's, you get frustrated with Google Assistant and start using Bixby
Ok just another question as my assistant is installed why does Google play show install Google assistant?
Hi,
I'm new to the forum, but I have a problem that seems too specific to be able to look for advice anywhere else. I have a Samsung S10 5g with Exynos SoC.
I have ADHD that can severely hamper my ability to do focused work when I can't eliminate distractions. Life has changed to the point that I can't get around without a smart phone (I couldn't log into my work account without using 2FA on a mobile app as the only option, for example), but I recently discovered that the paid version of BlockSite actually did quite a good job of locking down my phone with the option to unlock it by a password known only to my wife whenever that's needed.
That worked well for me for several months, and productivity soared as did the quality of my relationship. The problem is, the app has to be airtight. When ADHD brain pain sets in, nothing else matters to me more than breaking into my phone to mindlessly browse and ease the pain. And after a few months I was regularly spam tapping on apps on my recently viewed apps screen to try and force it to stay open. It fell apart completely when I accidentally opened split screen mode and realised that the BlockSite block screen only takes up half the screen. Since then, the app has been useless and I tend to browse in those difficult times as much as I ever used to.
It doesn't matter how I accomplish it, rooting or otherwise, but id like to find a way to completely disable recent apps functionality to bring BlockSite back to being functional for me.
I'm currently seeking treatment through other means, but it would be a huge help to me regardless if this were possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated.