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[Q] i537/i9295 Differences

I have been an Active (i537) owner since the first day it came out. Along with others, I remember begging XDA for our own forum--separate from the regular S4 forum. Now, I am wondering if, perhaps, we should have been more specific. It seems like the differences between the i537 and the i9295 are great enough that we should have asked for two new forums instead of one. I don't follow the S4 thread, so maybe, these small differences exist in that forum also, but sometimes, it seems a little tedious to have our own forum and still have to carefully check for the model number that pertains to my phone. I don't intend this purely as a complaint, but am I the only one that thinks that the two should have been separated?
BTW, I do realize that it is very late in the game to reasonably ask for two separate forums. It would be a major pain to even attempt to make a split now. I am really just asking how similar are these two phones? Maybe, I am missing something.

dibeachdude said:
I have been an Active (i537) owner since the first day it came out. Along with others, I remember begging XDA for our own forum--separate from the regular S4 forum. Now, I am wondering if, perhaps, we should have been more specific. It seems like the differences between the i537 and the i9295 are great enough that we should have asked for two new forums instead of one. I don't follow the S4 thread, so maybe, these small differences exist in that forum also, but sometimes, it seems a little tedious to have our own forum and still have to carefully check for the model number that pertains to my phone. I don't intend this purely as a complaint, but am I the only one that thinks that the two should have been separated?
BTW, I do realize that it is very late in the game to reasonably ask for two separate forums. It would be a major pain to even attempt to make a split now. I am really just asking how similar are these two phones? Maybe, I am missing something.
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The only difference between the i537 and the i9295 is that the i537 has a locked bootloader, other than that they are the exact same phone. The only problem I see with having separate forums is what happens if/when they figure out a way to unlock the bootloader? Then you have identical phones in two different forums. I agree it takes a minute to figure out which phone people are talking about, but generally it's pretty easy to figure out.

[Q] Why is Moto Maxx discussion here?

I don't mean to be rude, but why is there Moto Maxx discussion here? I understand that these phones are nearly identical, but seeing as the thing that makes the Droid Turbo it's own device is that it is stuck inside the constraints of Verizon, I really don't want to come to this forum and see it blowing up with threads about the Moto Maxx and all of the updates and whatnot they are getting in Brazil. If I sound bitter.. I am a bit. You go to a device specific forum to not see things that irrelevant for your device.
TL;DR: Please don't talk about Moto Maxx things in this forum, it's a Droid Turbo Forum. Moderators, please enforce this.
Thanks.

jakeisabear said:
I don't mean to be rude, but why is there Moto Maxx discussion here? I understand that these phones are nearly identical, but seeing as the thing that makes the Droid Turbo it's own device is that it is stuck inside the constraints of Verizon, I really don't want to come to this forum and see it blowing up with threads about the Moto Maxx and all of the updates and whatnot they are getting in Brazil. If I sound bitter.. I am a bit. You go to a device specific forum to not see things that irrelevant for your device.
TL;DR: Please don't talk about Moto Maxx things in this forum, it's a Droid Turbo Forum. Moderators, please enforce this.
Thanks.
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This subject has already been addressed multiple times. Try browsing the forum a little bit and I'm sure that you'll be able to find the discussion. No need to start a new thread about it

IAreFlugruger said:
This subject has already been addressed multiple times. Try browsing the forum a little bit and I'm sure that you'll be able to find the discussion. No need to start a new thread about it
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While you are correct and I should have looked a little harder for that discussion, I would much rather blow up this forum wit multiple threads regarding this topic, than have this forum cluttered with discussion which is ultimately useless to members with the actual "Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo", the titular device of this forum.

Search next time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3032371

I post here because I thought this was the Moto Maxx forum and they misnamed it Droid Turbo on accident. I was just looking at my Moto Maxx by the way and was thinking "damn, that's one mighty fine device" right before I read this post.
In seriousness you might want to read one of the several threads where this has been hashed out at length. A few key takeaways from that are... while not ideal there are reasons why separating these forums would be detrimental to both device owner groups... this had already been posted both on the official thread where it was seconded a number of times along with the threads started here meaning the moderators and administration of this forum have already seen this complaint and chosen not to act on it either in creating a new separate forum or in stopping Maxx owners posting here.
I would suggest putting your vote in on the previous thread on this as well as visiting the official forum suggestion thread and seconding the request there. Who knows make the wheel squeaky enough and maybe you will hit paydirt.

Because Moto maxx int version of turbo, i think this forum need be re-named or maxx have new área

And then there's the U.S. XT1250 Moto Maxx, which is identical to the Droid Turbo XT1254 (same FCC ID number), works on Verizon and has unlockable boot loader. It's basically the "Developer Edition" of the Droid Turbo.
If any development comes which will benefit the Quark XT1254 (Droid Turbo), it's going to come from the Quark XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx) or the Quark XT1225 (international Moto Maxx).
The Droid Turbo XT1254 is just Verizon's locked down XT1250 Moto Maxx.

ChazzMatt said:
And then there's the U.S. XT1250 Moto Maxx, which is identical to the Droid Turbo XT1254 (same FCC ID number), works on Verizon and has unlockable boot loader. It's basically the "Developer Edition" of the Droid Turbo.
If any development comes which will benefit the Quark XT1254 (Droid Turbo), it's going to come from the Quark XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx) or the Quark XT1225 (international Moto Maxx).
The Droid Turbo XT1254 is just Verizon's locked down XT1250 Moto Maxx.
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So what?
There are many phones with carrier versions and yet, they at the very least have their own sub forums. This is due to laxness on XDA's part and has nothing to do with FCC numbers or similarities.

adrynalyne said:
So what?
There are many phones with carrier versions and yet, they at the very least have their own sub forums. This is due to laxness on XDA's part and has nothing to do with FCC numbers or similarities.
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Look we can't do anything unless XDA chooses to... Moderators have been to these threads and it has also been posted in the forum request thread and nothing has been done... So until XDA desides to do something about this, we are stuck together!

Gundabolu SC said:
Look we can't do anything unless XDA chooses to... Moderators have been to these threads and it has also been posted in the forum request thread and nothing has been done... So until XDA desides to do something about this, we are stuck together!
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I'm aware, but there us no reason for anyone to justify it with FCC ids or anything else. Call it for what it is, indifference on the part of whoever sets up the forums.

adrynalyne said:
I'm aware, but there us no reason for anyone to justify it with FCC ids or anything else. Call it for what it is, indifference on the part of whoever sets up the forums.
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For this should be quark forum, for all variants

matheus_sc said:
For this should be quark forum, for all variants
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None of the other forums are structured that way...

Not true, there are several. The latest one I was on was the Find 7a forum which later had the Find 7 added to it making 4 total variants under the same roof since they each had both a Chinese and an international variant. Those handsets had more differences than these do. It isn't a big deal there and it isn't a big deal here. Frankly without the contributions of the entire group that forum would be dead making it ideal for no one. Which pretty much sums up the future of this one as well were it to be divided.
I'm not calling any of you out in particular but right now your "lets kick those pesky Maxx dudes out" thought lhas little logical substance. So far the only reason anyone has come up with for separating it is a segment of one ownership group who feels like they shouldn't have to actually think before clicking a thread. Yes, I'm saying it is obvious by looking at most thread titles whether that thread pertains to a particular device or not. It isn't like anyone would have a bunch of wasted clicks. Further anyone that cares to bother can read the previous threads to see how easy it is to mark thread titles by device if it pertains to only one variant.
Honestly gents, what is your preference, have your own dead forum which you wont bother visiting because to do so would be pointless or dropping the "waaa" line of reasoning and going with what isn't perfect but better than nothing?

krabman said:
Not true, there are several. The latest one I was on was the Find 7a forum which later had the Find 7 added to it making 4 total variants under the same roof since they each had both a Chinese and an international variant. Those handsets had more differences than these do. It isn't a big deal there and it isn't a big deal here. Frankly without the contributions of the entire group that forum would be dead making it ideal for no one. Which pretty much sums up the future of this one as well were it to be divided.
I'm not calling any of you out in particular but right now your "lets kick those pesky Maxx dudes out" thought lhas little logical substance. So far the only reason anyone has come up with for separating it is a segment of one ownership group who feels like they shouldn't have to actually think before clicking a thread. Yes, I'm saying it is obvious by looking at most thread titles whether that thread pertains to a particular device or not. It isn't like anyone would have a bunch of wasted clicks. Further anyone that cares to bother can read the previous threads to see how easy it is to mark thread titles by device if it pertains to only one variant.
Honestly gents, what is your preference, have your own dead forum which you wont bother visiting because to do so would be pointless or dropping the "waaa" line of reasoning and going with what isn't perfect but better than nothing?
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None of those variants were named by their internal name (like quark), so no they were not. It's not about kicking people out, its about logical organization and right now this forum is a catchall.

adrynalyne said:
None of those variants were named by their internal name (like quark), so no they were not. It's not about kicking people out, its about logical organization and right now this forum is a catchall.
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For over two years now, the Razr HD has had only one development forum for two variants,
XT926, which is the CDMA/Verizon variant, and XT925 , that is the GSM/international version.
The situation is very similar, if not identical than what we have here now with the Turbo/Maxx. The internals are almost exactly the same, save for radio.
Not saying it is ideal, but it has worked so far.

poncespr said:
For over two years now, the Razr HD has had only one development forum for two variants,
XT926, which is the CDMA/Verizon variant, and XT925 , that is the GSM/international version.
The situation is very similar, if not identical than what we have here now with the Turbo/Maxx. The internals are almost exactly the same, save for radio.
Not saying it is ideal, but it has worked so far.
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How many bricks?

adrynalyne said:
None of those variants were named by their internal name (like quark), so no they were not. It's not about kicking people out, its about logical organization and right now this forum is a catchall.
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Thats it? You're going to go with "internal names"? lol I have already seen you're incapable of admitting you're wrong and the reason I posted wasn't for your benefit, it was for others that might not be aware that there are reasons why it would be a bad idea. What weighs most important in their mind is up to them and I can respect their opinions just as I respect yours although I think it is short sighted, and poorly thought out.
You are BTW wrong about it being simply a matter of laziness, you used lax but I think I understanding on what you meant? The truth is they cannot administer, monitor, and moderate an unlimited number of forum sections and there can not be one section for every possible device. Go ahead and read up on why that is in the forum faqs as I am thinking you would rather read it from the horses mouth. This is why some devices get no forum at all and there are several that are multiple device combined forums. I've been on two since I've been here myself and another fellow just mentioned one he had been on. They exist and have existed no matter how much you don't want to admit it.
Again, I would suggest you go to the appropriate area up above and second the nomination to separate these devices by whatever means you see fit. I would also suggest you go to the Find 7 section and take a look at just how slow it is despite having the devices combined. While you do so keep in mind that they are less than one year from introduction and started out with developers on board up front and far more posters contributing in the beginning on a stellar device. Note that they added a separate development threads within the section so that people could go directly to their own device development where it was not generic between all of them. Note that people were encouraged to add the device to the thread title when the subject was device specific so that people could quickly skim through it looking for information that is of interest to them.
Split this up and this section dies sooner rather than whatever later ends up being if you keep them together. Maybe you care, maybe you don't. I do care because a perfect forum with no information has less value than an imperfect one that people are contributing in.
I was by the way on the other side last time. The new guys joined us and while I didn't like the arrangement it was better than nothing. There was also less complaining for reasons that I don't know but I am curious as to why this comes up over and over here but was hardly a blip there. Maybe it is the type of people. More US influence here obviously while that one is quite international in nature.

krabman said:
Thats it? You're going to go with "internal names"? lol I have already seen you're incapable of admitting you're wrong and the reason I posted wasn't for your benefit, it was for others that might not be aware that there are reasons why it would be a bad idea. What weighs most important in their mind is up to them and I can respect their opinions just as I respect yours although I think it is short sighted, and poorly thought out.
You are BTW wrong about it being simply a matter of laziness, you used lax but I think I understanding on what you meant? The truth is they cannot administer, monitor, and moderate an unlimited number of forum sections and there can not be one section for every possible device. Go ahead and read up on why that is in the forum faqs as I am thinking you would rather read it from the horses mouth. This is why some devices get no forum at all and there are several that are multiple device combined forums. I've been on two since I've been here myself and another fellow just mentioned one he had been on. They exist and have existed no matter how much you don't want to admit it.
Again, I would suggest you go to the appropriate area up above and second the nomination to separate these devices by whatever means you see fit. I would also suggest you go to the Find 7 section and take a look at just how slow it is despite having the devices combined. While you do so keep in mind that they are less than one year from introduction and started out with developers on board up front and far more posters contributing in the beginning on a stellar device. Note that they added a separate development threads within the section so that people could go directly to their own device development where it was not generic between all of them. Note that people were encouraged to add the device to the thread title when the subject was device specific so that people could quickly skim through it looking for information that is of interest to them.
Split this up and this section dies sooner rather than whatever later ends up being if you keep them together. Maybe you care, maybe you don't. I do care because a perfect forum with no information has less value than an imperfect one that people are contributing in.
I was by the way on the other side last time. The new guys joined us and while I didn't like the arrangement it was better than nothing. There was also less complaining for reasons that I don't know but I am curious as to why this comes up over and over here but was hardly a blip there. Maybe it is the type of people. More US influence here obviously while that one is quite international in nature.
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Incapable of admitting I am wrong? Of what? Quite the immature comment. Is this some sort of childish competition for you?
No phone here is referred to by internal name. In no situation will it make things clear. In no situation will someone less tech savvy end up in the right forum. I cannot tell you how many times I've seen bricks due to people flashing the wrong firmware for the wrong device. I have my PM inbox on this forum and several others where over the years people have bricked their devices with the wrong firmware and I happened to have a leak that would put them back on the right version. The ONLY reason it hasn't happened in here is that the Turbo is still locked down. If it ever is freed, we will see bricks here unless Maxx users get their own forums, mark my words. Why, you may ask? Well I am glad you did. Because its unlikely we will get a full firmware leak to restore from.
I am wrong about it being laziness? Yes I originally said laxness, for lack of a word to explain their lack of caring, rather than being lazy, LOL.
Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 4
AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Samsung Galaxy Note 4
All full forum sets. I can find other examples. Stop huffing and puffing because you think we want Maxx users kicked out. No, I rather the information be separated for logical reasons. It has nothing to do with your ego, nor mine.

adrynalyne said:
Incapable of admitting I am wrong? Of what? Quite the immature comment. Is this some sort of childish competition for you?
No phone here is referred to by internal name. In no situation will it make things clear. In no situation will someone less tech savvy end up in the right forum. I cannot tell you how many times I've seen bricks due to people flashing the wrong firmware for the wrong device. I have my PM inbox on this forum and several others where over the years people have bricked their devices with the wrong firmware and I happened to have a leak that would put them back on the right version. The ONLY reason it hasn't happened in here is that the Turbo is still locked down. If it ever is freed, we will see bricks here unless Maxx users get their own forums, mark my words. Why, you may ask? Well I am glad you did. Because its unlikely we will get a full firmware leak to restore from.
I am wrong about it being laziness? Yes I originally said laxness, for lack of a word to explain their lack of caring, rather than being lazy, LOL.
Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 4
AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Samsung Galaxy Note 4
All full forum sets. I can find other examples. Stop huffing and puffing because you think we want Maxx users kicked out. No, I rather the information be separated for logical reasons. It has nothing to do with your ego, nor mine.
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This is only for device with great sales

matheus_sc said:
This is only for device with great sales
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No it isn't.
This device sells as well as Nexus devices, easily.
Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506 if they want to compact it a bit, they could have. Each one has its own developer forum. Same with Nexus devices.
There is no excuse for it. The only other device treated this way is the HTC One M8 for Windows.

Note 8 has no root or custom firmwares?

Does it have, got my Note 8 a week ago but just wondering has I have not seen anykind of movement for the US variant.

all sorts of threads and posts answer your questions..

Just search, do not be lazy

Oh wow, thanks before posting I searched and found nothing only for older versions using SamFail. Thanks anyways loooool glad to see a gooood comunity

PLUS I said that I didn't saw any kind of movement

@atrix_noob What firmware are you running ?

Alek7 said:
@atrix_noob What firmware are you running ?
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It's on 8.0 May 1 security patch.

atrix_noob said:
It's on 8.0 May 1 security patch.
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For the US 950U and 950U1 snapdragon there is no root for the May update. That is bootloader revision 4 and has no root at this time. Your best bet is to keep a eye on the samfail thread for updates.

If your past U3 were sol for now. I think theres only one guy working on a possible partial root. There are lots of apps for theming. Substranium and Good lock are great.

atrix_noob said:
Oh wow, thanks before posting I searched and found nothing only for older versions using SamFail. Thanks anyways loooool glad to see a gooood comunity
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Dude.
Just search around.
Don't give us the 'lmao such a good community, how about you go and suck it because I don't want to research' attitude.
It's not our fault you couldn't be bothered to check for any activity and read around.
Plus people are tired of having others ask the same question hundreds of others have asked related to root, it's all about searching or reading.
Don't you think if someone found a way to root the newest firmware there would be a lot more sites talking about it?
Sarcasm aside, no, there is no root for Oreo Bootloaders (U4). Only Nougat with U3 or below.

luisramon17 said:
Dude.
Just search around.
Don't give us the 'lmao such a good community, how about you go and suck it because I don't want to research' attitude.
It's not our fault you couldn't be bothered to check for any activity and read around.
Plus people are tired of having others ask the same question hundreds of others have asked related to root, it's all about searching or reading.
Don't you think if someone found a way to root the newest firmware there would be a lot more sites talking about it?
Sarcasm aside, no, there is no root for Oreo Bootloaders (U4). Only Nougat with U3 or below.
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Before posting I always use the search feature cause it's very usefull. Has you know there are multiple threads and forums and specifically a T-Mobile Model one and its pretty much dead. If YOU read above I said that I didn't see any kind of activity. Another one is that if you read more down below, I stated that all I could find is a SamFail one but it's pretty outdated. So I came here to the Questions & Answers area and posted this thread here to see if anyone had an idea of whats happening with the US models
I don't need for someone to come here and tell me
"Oh don't be lazy and use the search funtion"
Already stated on the first post. Sheesh
And yeah, thanks for the bootloader part.

atrix_noob said:
Before posting I always use the search feature cause it's very usefull. Has you know there are multiple threads and forums and specifically a T-Mobile Model one. If YOU read above I said that I didn't see any kind of activity. Another one is that if you read more down below, I stated that all I could find is a SamFail one but it's pretty outdated. So I came here to the Questions & Answers area and posted this thread here to see if anyone had an idea of whats happenind with the US models
I don't need for someone to come here and tell me " Oh don't be lazy and use the search funtion"
Alrready stated on the first post. Sheesh
And yeah, thanks for the bootloader part.
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The thing is theres not much firmware differences between models. They might have slight baseband changes but they're all based on the same thing. So root that would work on a Verizon Note8 would work on a T-Mobile Note8.
And yes, the only one we have is sadly the V3 for those unlucky to update.
And I imagine people would check the last section of the thread to be on standby since apparently theres a new exploit that might (or might not) help.
This is why I assumed you didn't check first, but since you did (I didn't see that part), I apologize.

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If your past U3 were sol for now. I think theres only one guy working on a possible partial root. There are lots of apps for theming. Substranium and Good lock are great.
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Thanks for the heads up, I really like the root and all that stuff. Especially for getting rid of all T-Mobile crap on the phone. I'm a person that chages phone alot but I think I'll be giving this guy an exchange for another phone lol. I literally don't last a month with a phone has I like to test other brands and models

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The thing is theres not much firmware differences between models. They might have slight baseband changes but they're all based on the same thing. So root that would work on a Verizon Note8 would work on a T-Mobile Note8.
And yes, the only one we have is sadly the V3 for those unlucky to update.
And I imagine people would check the last section of the thread to be on standby since apparently theres a new exploit that might (or might not) help.
This is why I assumed you didn't check first, but since you did (I didn't see that part), I apologize.
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Don't worry, I searched everywhere but nothing found. Sometimes you know, people spread rumors or someone may know of something that's been on progress but it doesn't come up on public threads.
I been rooting my phones literally ever since I had an Android phone and always do my reaserch before posting on forums, cause you know there's always the people that come and say "Use the search feature" and always try to avoid that.
And yeah, all I read about was on Nougat. So I'll just asume it's dead.

atrix_noob said:
Don't worry, I searched everywhere but nothing found. Sometimes you know, people spread rumors or someone may know of something that's been on progress but it doesn't come up on public threads.
I been rooting my phones literally ever since I had an Android phone and always do my reaserch before posting on forums, cause you know there's always the people that come and say "Use the search feature" and always try to avoid that.
And yeah, all I read about was on Nougat. So I'll just asume it's dead.
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You switch phones a lot too? Same, heh. Went from having a Note 4 to iPhone 8 Plus, then Note 8, then iPX, then back to Note 8 (cause drawing), but to be fair, I do miss a little of Apple.
To be fair, it's not dead (yet) since the Oreo update landed pretty recently, plus the only tool we had for making it possible got executed pretty much, so I'd give it a little time.
And that search feature situation is a fair point.

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For the US 950U and 950U1 snapdragon there is no root for the May update. That is bootloader revision 4 and has no root at this time. Your best bet is to keep a eye on the samfail thread for updates.
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Thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye on it

luisramon17 said:
You switch phones a lot too? Same, heh. Went from having a Note 4 to iPhone 8 Plus, then Note 8, then iPX, then back to Note 8 (cause drawing), but to be fair, I do miss a little of Apple.
To be fair, it's not dead (yet) since the Oreo update landed pretty recently, plus the only tool we had for making it possible got executed pretty much, so I'd give it a little time.
And that search feature situation is a fair point.
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Yeah, I have had literally all flagship phones by now except for the Huawei P20.
Last Apple Device I had was the iPX, very good device but the atmosphere of the OS makes it pretty boring to me and get bored at it pretty quickly has you can't make any changes to the look of it.
I got this Note 8, exchanged it for my iPX. The guy that maked the deal with me gave me around 200 bucks and the Note for the iPhone lol.
I love the Note 8, super fast and love the big screen.

What to know before buying used note 8 specially for rooting and ulocking bootloader?

Hi, I recently bought a sony xperia z5 which i saw later that its bootlaoder cannot be unlocked.Now i am planing to go with samsung note 8 (used one) so i just wanted to know what model number should i buy ( I am in india ) or what should i check before buying note 8? which can be rooted and unlock bootloader too ( i am planing to buy it from dubai)
Please suggest Thanks.

The best would be, that you start looking in the appropriate Note 8 sub forums or use the xda search function or use Google search. It won't harm you if you educate yourself a bit on this matter. The phone is 10 months old now, plenty of info out there.
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you must buy exynos for root.

Basically for model numbers... anything that ISNT N950U or N950U1 model numbers. So ones that work are: N950F/FD N950N N9500(there might be others but as long as its not N950U or N950U1 it should be fine.

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Basically for model numbers... anything that ISNT N950U or N950U1 model numbers. So ones that work are: N950F/FD N950N N9500(there might be others but as long as its not N950U or N950U1 it should be fine.
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Thanks :good:

Don'r buy a phone with snapdragon if you want custom rom. I don't care for custom roms because Note 8 is already strong so I bought SD Version for gamecube/wii emulation.

Cool Person said:
Don'r buy a phone with snapdragon if you want custom rom. I don't care for custom roms because Note 8 is already strong so I bought SD Version for gamecube/wii emulation.
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You mean i should go for exynos, only.( no matter what model number it is)
And
In other words, No snapdragon can be rooted (Am I right?)

nicholes said:
You mean i should go for exynos, only.( no matter what model number it is)
And
In other words, No snapdragon can be rooted (Am I right?)
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Yep any SM-N950F and SM-N950F/DS and SM-N950N are exynos and have bootloaders unlocked
The snapdragons from USA/Canada SM-N950U and SM-N950U1 and SM-N950W are bootloader Locked. But can be rooted but this is a huge but if your on bootloader v4 and up you CAN NOT root your phone.
Bootloader v3 and below CAN BE rooted. But no twrp recovery.
But there are snapdragons that have unlock bootloaders SM-N9500 which comes from China and Hong Kong.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk

Something i don't see many people talk about but i regret myself doing.
If you are looking for the dual sim option it is possible to convert SM-N950F to dual sim or just buy a SM-N950FD.
But if you are trying to mod/convert SM-N950F to dual sim it is easier to do it with knox 0, trying to do it with knox 1 will get you into more troubles. I regret triping knox before converting to my note 8 into dual sim as i have brought the equipment and it doesn't work with knox 1. Modding this phone is a nightmare with binary 4 (SM-N950F), 7 day oem unlock wait every flash/factory reset. The date change to unlock may not always work due to patch.
Personally i think this is a great phone but is a nightmare to work with. If your interested in intensive modding with this phone may not be for u.

bluecub1st said:
Something i don't see many people talk about but i regret myself doing.
If you are looking for the dual sim option it is possible to convert SM-N950F to dual sim or just buy a SM-N950FD.
But if you are trying to mod/convert SM-N950F to dual sim it is easier to do it with knox 0, trying to do it with knox 1 will get you into more troubles. I regret triping knox before converting to my note 8 into dual sim as i have brought the equipment and it doesn't work with knox 1. Modding this phone is a nightmare with binary 4 (SM-N950F), 7 day oem unlock wait every flash/factory reset. The date change to unlock may not always work due to patch.
Personally i think this is a great phone but is a nightmare to work with. If your interested in intensive modding with this phone may not be for u.
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The 7 day timer has a workaround to skip the waiting period (posted as a sticky here), as well as a fix that can be flashed but it also now included in most custom roms. Aside from that people shouldn't have any issues rooting or modding the Exynos variants.
Trying to convert a single sim phone to dual sim would require copying the imei which is illegal. That type of modding isn't supposed to be easy or encouraged, by design.

BluePhnx said:
Yep any SM-N950F and SM-N950F/DS and SM-N950N are exynos and have bootloaders unlocked
The snapdragons from USA/Canada SM-N950U and SM-N950U1 and SM-N950W are bootloader Locked. But can be rooted but this is a huge but if your on bootloader v4 and up you CAN NOT root your phone.
Bootloader v3 and below CAN BE rooted. But no twrp recovery.
But there are snapdragons that have unlock bootloaders SM-N9500 which comes from China and Hong Kong.
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very good info/post. All what I wanted in one post.
Thanks! :good:

would my att sim card work in the exynos models? whats the downfall if it does work?

Granted, people can/should do their research before posting questions that have been answered many times over. Or easily searchable. There is nothing wrong with asking a question(s) pertaining to their individual circumstance. It's not just as simple as "educating" themselves when they are asking other's opinions and validating the information they have come across. This site is not a Wikipedia... It's also a community where people can go looking for help or advice. Your response neither helps or adds anything to this subject. There are people out there who don't even try or make an attempt to search before posting questions that have been asked a million times over. I don't feel that this is one of those posts. As for the "community" part I mentioned earlier, we are community that "should" be helping inform and educate people. I know the site has grown a lot over the years in popularity, increasing the number of lazy users making redundant and unnecessary threads. This too sadly has increased the amount of unhelpful, rude and egocentric users. I wish you could have been a little more constructive in your reply. Or, even if sarcastically, added some kind of relevant help. If only just to help any future users that don't even try before creating those unnecessary threads you/I see all the time.
Dejan Sathanas said:
The best would be, that you start looking in the appropriate Note 8 sub forums or use the xda search function or use Google search. It won't harm you if you educate yourself a bit on this matter. The phone is 10 months old now, plenty of info out there.
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wigglitz said:
Granted, people can/should do their research before posting questions that have been answered many times over. Or easily searchable. There is nothing wrong with asking a question(s) pertaining to their individual circumstance. It's not just as simple as "educating" themselves when they are asking other's opinions and validating the information they have come across. This site is not a Wikipedia... It's also a community where people can go looking for help or advice. Your response neither helps or adds anything to this subject. There are people out there who don't even try or make an attempt to search before posting questions that have been asked a million times over. I don't feel that this is one of those posts. As for the "community" part I mentioned earlier, we are community that "should" be helping inform and educate people. I know the site has grown a lot over the years in popularity, increasing the number of lazy users making redundant and unnecessary threads. This too sadly has increased the amount of unhelpful, rude and egocentric users. I wish you could have been a little more constructive in your reply. Or, even if sarcastically, added some kind of relevant help. If only just to help any future users that don't even try before creating those unnecessary threads you/I see all the time.
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Agree fully. if you are going to comment, save the snide remarks

US Varients (AT&T/T-MOBILE/VERIZON)root progress thread.

I have searched the forums and the web trying to find a thread for a "root progress" (like the one we had on the LG V30 side of the world) of our T-MOBILE/AT&T/VERIZON/SPRINT note 9, but didn't find any. If there is one already, please remove this thread and provide me a link to it if you may.
Anyway,
There are two reasons why I'm creating this thread:
1. We used to have forums that are carrier specific. It was very neat and organized. I'd never gotten confused on finding something related to my device. Now, it is just one and very very cluttered forum for all varients (to the point that I'm not sure which variant is rootable and which isn't. And that's why I left out the sprint varient because I'm honestly not sure). There are so many threads that makes it so hard to find what you're looking for.
2. I'd like to know if there are any devs out there that are working on root for this phone (on the carriers mentioned above) and whether they need help testing. If there is; I'm sure there are a ton of users who are willing to help, including me.
I'd love for some devs to chime in and give us some updates. Not asking for any ETAs, but would love to know if there is any work being done. If there is, then please consider this thread to share your progress with us
So, feel free to throw your comments on here. Also, if you're a user who's wondering about root, has thoughts about root, would like to chat about it, go ahead, vent it out.
Cheers
::good::
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I am also interest in US variant root progress. I am on Sprint though. Wish you had included us too in OP. I am willing to test out if anyone is developing.

Hi
Great idea, maybe if we show interest some of the dev's might take up the challenge.
We can hope.
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Wont ever happen thats why i returned it and got the 960f for tmobile i left sprijt

It's a pipe dream to get root on the US variants. Samsung has even blocked SamFail and similar root. The bootloaders cannot be unlocked and the snapdragon processor models are doomed.
Join @pbedard, myself, and others; return your snapdragon model and buy the 960F.
The Note 9 is great, but it's amazing with root. ??

K-alz said:
I have searched the forums and the web trying to find a thread for a "root progress" (like the one we had on the LG V30 side of the world) of our T-MOBILE/AT&T/VERIZON note 9, but didn't find any. If there is one already, please remove this thread and provide me a link to it if you may.
Anyway,
There are two reasons why I'm creating this thread:
1. We used to have forums that are carrier specific. It was very neat and organized. I'd never gotten confused on finding something related to my device. Now, it is just one and very very cluttered forum for all varients (to the point that I'm not sure which variant is rootable and which isn't. And that's why I left out the sprint varient because I'm honestly not sure). There are so many threads that makes it so hard to find what you're looking for.
2. I'd like to know if there are any devs out there that are working on root for this phone (on the carriers mentioned above) and whether they need help testing. If there is; I'm sure there are a ton of users who are willing to help, including me.
I'd love for some devs to chime in and give us some updates. Not asking for any ETAs, but would love to know if there is any work being done. If there is, then please consider this thread to share your progress with us
So, feel free to throw your comments on here. Also, if you're a user who's wondering about root, has thoughts about root, would like to chat about it, go ahead, vent it out.
Cheers
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carrier specific should be banned and never be implemented again.
it causes confusion and is just a waste of resources. people ask questions and get less visibility because 90% of all questions or releases are CPU based and not carrier related.
it's simply a less efficient way of going about things.
carrier related issues and questions should actually be discussed in that specific carriers website. what good is it to discuss or bring up carriers issues in xda when you actually want and need carriers support and visibility from their end to fix or correct their issues?
issues that are based on device type or general custom development should be kept on xda as is: by cpu. there are sections for general inquires and such that can easily be used for the 10% asking questions or support for a specific carrier.
BTW
extra extra read all about it:
no root for the n960 snapdragon. it's a moot point and progress is that there is no progress. I'd think if the people that were working and progressing getting root were actually getting somewhere they would have already posted info by now. speculative threads wishing for something is not progress and I don't think its gonna " attract " people to suddenly develope root because if it.
it will come when it does if it does.
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to prove my point for the carrier thing:
in Canada we also have the note 9 snapdragon.
960w Bell/rogers/telus/videotron/wind mobile...etc and so on.
should the forums be re-spliced for all of these too? lol no

Sorkovz said:
I am also interest in US variant root progress. I am on Sprint though. Wish you had included us too in OP. I am willing to test out if anyone is developing.
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Sorry, budd. Didn't know that you guys didn't have root either. I'll edit later.
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The way Samsung has been locking phones the past few years I'm starting to wonder why I shouldn't try an iPhone out.
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deh2002 said:
The way Samsung has been locking phones the past few years I'm starting to wonder why I shouldn't try an iPhone out.
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I was telling myself the same thing.. then snapped out of it and got an LG lol. Get a Pixel or any other brand if you value root.

deh2002 said:
The way Samsung has been locking phones the past few years I'm starting to wonder why I shouldn't try an iPhone out.
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its really the carriers imo.. well the US mainly haha.. most all other devices are unlockable outside of the US..
but agreed, especially with the RMM stuff they implemented recently even on unlockable devices..

Megaflop666 said:
It's a pipe dream to get root on the US variants. Samsung has even blocked SamFail and similar root. The bootloaders cannot be unlocked and the snapdragon processor models are doomed.
Join @pbedard, myself, and others; return your snapdragon model and buy the 960F.
The Note 9 is great, but it's amazing with root. [emoji1303]
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I honestly cant afford to pay for this phone outright. I wish I could. I would've gotten the exynos varient and called it a day, financing through tmobile was the only option I had to get my hands on this phone. Even without root, it's still a stellar phone.
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Is root even worth it anymore tbh ? What if we tried to get Volte and wifi calling working on the unbranded firmware ?

K-alz said:
I honestly cant afford to pay for this phone outright. I wish I could. I would've gotten the exynos varient and called it a day, financing through tmobile was the only option I had to get my hands on this phone. Even without root, it's still a stellar phone.
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You could have gotten one on ebay and pay it over six months with the PayPal Credit option. That's what I did to get Exynos model.
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daniel4653 said:
You could have gotten one on ebay and pay it over six months with the PayPal Credit option. That's what I did to get Exynos model.
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Didn't know that. Crap. I missed my chance :/
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