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Doesn't the note 4 have a 16mp camera?? Why are they making a lower resolution for a 850.00 phone ?
I think it's because of it being water resistant? I'm not sure.
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I think it's because of it being water resistant? I'm not sure.
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I was thinking about getting one due to an upgraded camera from the note 4 because my phone is my only camera and the note 4 takes some really great pictures but jeeez downgrading 4mp doesnt sound like much of an upgrade :/
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I was thinking about getting one due to an upgraded camera from the note 4 because my phone is my only camera and the note 4 takes some really great pictures but jeeez downgrading 4mp doesnt sound like much of an upgrade :/
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The pixels are much bigger, it has better low light, and better focusing. There is no doubt it is a better camera, just a lower resolution.
jasamaha8 said:
The pixels are much bigger, it has better low light, and better focusing. There is no doubt it is a better camera, just a lower resolution.
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jasamaha8 said:
The pixels are much bigger, it has better low light, and better focusing. There is no doubt it is a better camera, just a lower resolution.
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See , I figured it had to be something like that . I couldnt imagine theyd be putting a worse camera in a freakin damn near 900 phone.
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Doesn't the note 4 have a 16mp camera?? Why are they making a lower resolution for a 850.00 phone ?
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High mega pixels are over rated, for one. Simply not necessary. Just a selling ploy from way back. "Bigger/more is better" Not!
No one prints these out, so simply viewing them on the phone or pc does not require such a HUGE image file. And if you did print them out, at 16MP, they should be poster size. LOL. Many users don't understand this, so they fill their SD cards up quickly with these huge image files and need more SD cards, and larger hard drives. I've wondered for years when the madness would end.
I turn my settings to midway at best. Usually lower, unless I plan to print.
I am disipointing about the chanhe samsung made regarding to aspect ratio on max resolution. Note 4 had 16/9 and now note 7 has 4/3. I dont understand why samsung bad to change a good thing. 4/3 is awefull on the wide screen on a laptop on a slideplay cause is onlu show 75% of screen.
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smentoma said:
I am disipointing about the chanhe samsung made regarding to aspect ratio on max resolution. Note 4 had 16/9 and now note 7 has 4/3. I dont understand why samsung bad to change a good thing. 4/3 is awefull on the wide screen on a laptop on a slideplay cause is onlu show 75% of screen.
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16:9 is cropped 4:3 when it comes to photography.
Yea them sony phones have 21 mega pixel and they suck.. the note 7 has same camera as s7 which is the best camera phone u can buy, the apature is higher therfore no need for more than 12mp, note 4 has 1.3 or 1.4 lens apature I think. Note 7 is 1.7 aperture dual pixel auto focus.. but I don't take a lot of pics, I'm disappointed in the processor.. it's just a s7 with an spend and dual edge screen.. should of had 6gb ram too! BOO!
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This thread does not belong here. It belongs in the Note 7 forum not the Note 4!
This has nothing to do with the note 4 other than you are comparing it to the note 4.
TL;DR Incorrect forum.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-note-7/help
Moved to T-mo Note 7 forum as it compares against Note 4.
From the specs, the resolution of Note 7 camera is lower, but the performance of the camera has improved. Galaxy Note 7 used the same camera sensor as Galaxy S7 edge, and just optimize the camera app operation.
And an FYI, although it is 12 MP, it is also dual pixel so it will get better low light and about double pixels (think 24 mp)
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I had the S7 Edge for a few weeks and the camera is better than the Note 5 I have. The big difference is in low light settings and that is where you really see the difference. The one thing I did not like as much was the aspect ratio. It just doesn't seem right to take the pictures full screen but when viewing them they are not full screen. That is the only thing that I wish was different with the camera but now we just have to crop the pics to use them as backgrounds on widescreen devices. I would rather have the better picture quality over aspect ratio but it would have been nice if we could have had both.
More pixels doesnt equal better photos. For years iphone out shot tons of android phone with 12 and 16 mp and never had to break 8mp to do it
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samsung knows that there doing.
I had the note 3, note 4 edge and s7 edge. The s7 edge has the best camera and the note 7 is suppose to use the same camera.
So there is no doubt that the note 7 camera will be better then the note 4.
and more pixels dont always mean a better picture.
I learn this long time ago. I had big megapixel camera that took flat wash out photos. While my lower pixel cameras took way better photos.
My wife just bought a Sony Camera for $200. The point is its 22MPs...The Note 4 takes better pics and is less and the Note 7 is less than that ans takes even better. ... there's a lot more variables than the number of megapixels
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taken from my 12mp S7 camera
Is there any zoom feature on the Note 7? I've looked at all the you tube videos and haven't been able to find anything.
Can someone please tel me what camera sensor Note 8 have? I mean, for Qualcomm and Exynos versions. Are they again Samsung for Exynos and Sony for Qualcomm? I like more the Sony one, for me looks better than Samsung one. You can get this info with Aida64.
I have Samsung sensors on my S8 (Exynos) and Sony on S8 Active, and for me Sony is way better than Samsung one. Also the signal seems better with Qualcomm...
Thank You!
The Qualcomm is Sony, not sure about the other.
For exynos version is SLSI_S5K2L2_FIMC_IS ( a.k.a Samsung made)
P.s. Just like in S8 / 8+ versions
Oh, that's really great news. Thank You!!!
So how much of a difference is there between the Sony and Samsung modules in the real world (if any)?
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So how much of a difference is there between the Sony and Samsung modules in the real world (if any)?
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Well, Sony is much ponderate on mega sharping the images, more natural colors and look, better quality. On S7 was the same problem. Sony sensor better and more natural than Samsung one. Also Samsung sensor use more agressive "beauty face"...
I have S8 Active and S8 with Exynos and I will never buy again a Samsung Phone with Samsung photo sensor Simply sucks vs Sony one on Qualcomm versions. I will take some comparos and put them online soon to see the differences.
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Well, Sony is much ponderate on mega sharping the images, more natural colors and look, better quality. On S7 was the same problem. Sony sensor better and more natural than Samsung one. Also Samsung sensor use more agressive "beauty face"...
I have S8 Active and S8 with Exynos and I will never buy again a Samsung Phone with Samsung photo sensor Simply sucks vs Sony one on Qualcomm versions. I will take some comparos and put them online soon to see the differences.
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Thanks for the explanation. I have only ever owned Exynos versions of Sammy devices, always loved the way my photos turn out, so I guess I never had much to compare them with. I would be very interested to see real world examples of the difference.
How do we know what sensors are in our devices?
Aida64 is free. Look at "Devices", Front-Facing Camera and you will see SONY_IMX333 (depends on the phone) or SLSI_S5K2L2 etc. wich is Samsung sensor.
https://imgur.com/a/u4zFm
One quick example in low office light.
i do not think that the differences are THAT BIG as in those pictures ... i mean the detail, the dynamic range are totaly different
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i do not think that the differences are THAT BIG as in those pictures ... i mean the detail, the dynamic range are totaly different
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Same place, same time, same light etc. But not in all conditions are so different. That's true. Anyway, that beauty effect on the face it's present all the time when the light is not perfect. (on Samsung senzor)
also focused area is different ...
So I went to Samsung store today, tried to find out the camera sensor and my country(Singapore) got a Samsung sensor. Wonder if it's a mix of both Sony and Samsung sensors like they've been for years or all Samsung this time around. Has anyone seen S9s/S9+s with Sony for their country?
I dont think there is a sony... could be wrong...
misiokicio said:
I dont think there is a sony... could be wrong...
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Yea.. I Googled it, but no mention on any Sony sensors on S9/S9+. Hmm...
Exynos = Samsung sensor. Snapdragon = Sony sensor. This is a given.
The questions are which models of sensors are they? and whether they are upgraded or 2017 ones?
Emerald Core said:
Exynos = Samsung sensor. Snapdragon = Sony sensor. This is a given.
The questions are which models of sensors are they? and whether they are upgraded or 2017 ones?
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On my Exynos S8+ it's S5K2L2, while in the case of the S9 Exynos variant, it's SAK2L3. So yea.. it's an upgraded sensor. While front facing camera *seems* to be the same one as one on S8.
All versions of the S9, S9+ should be using the 3-stack ISOCELL Fast 2L3 image sensor with an integrated DRAM to be able to perform the touted Super Slow Mo feature.
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All versions of the S9, S9+ should be using the 3-stack ISOCELL Fast 2L3 image sensor with an integrated DRAM to be able to perform the touted Super Slow Mo feature.
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If this is the case, I guess in a way, a good thing then. To keep consistency. As I remember Samsung was using either ISOCELL and Sony IMX240 on the S6 regardless of chipset or region and quality were superior on one over the other.
So, i have been doing some research for my youtube channel lately about the s10 cameras. I own the European S10 with exynos 9820 cipset and Isocell camera sensors. I know that Samsung used dual sourcing again with their phones, and some models out there use Sony sensors,, most probably snapdragon 855 variants. The question is, what sony sensors do they use? Is it the same imx 345 from the s9? My s10 uses the SLSI_SAK2L4 isocell main sensor, opposed to the SLSI_SAK2L3 sensor i had on my note 9. I am asking this because i get very good photos, even compared to the pixel 3 and mate 20 pro but i know many of you are unhappy with the s10 cameras. So, what sony sensor does your s10 have? (Use aida64 and go to devices to find out)
U.S. S10 unlocked sm- g973u1
SD-855
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U.S. S10 unlocked sm- g973u1
SD-855
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So, on the US variant you have (maybe) the same back camera sensors, but a sony selfie camera. But from what i heard, there are phones with sony main back sensors too. How is your experience with the camera?
BTW, here are the screenshots from my exynos variant.
I have Exynos S10+ and photo quality is noticeably worse than my Note 9 Exynos. Photos come out overexposed(too bright) with inaccurate colors(black looks gray), the sharpness is terrible as well which makes picture look blurry. It can all be fixed by Google's GCam APK camera software, but unfortunately GCam does not fully work on Exynos models, it works fine on Snapdragon model S10s.
I have ISOCell sensors for both front and back camera, just like my Note 9.
with gcam the photos are so much better, full sun light samsung cam app is fine.
SONY_IMX374 Front Camera
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I have Exynos S10+ and photo quality is noticeably worse than my Note 9 Exynos. Photos come out overexposed(too bright) with inaccurate colors(black looks gray), the sharpness is terrible as well which makes picture look blurry. It can all be fixed by Google's GCam APK camera software, but unfortunately GCam does not fully work on Exynos models, it works fine on Snapdragon model S10s.
I have ISOCell sensors for both front and back camera, just like my Note 9.
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Well, i have pretty much the opposite experience with my camera. Made some tests VS my European Note 9, both with scene optimizer ON, and s10 photos are as sharp, but much better dynamic range and colors
Both Samsung iso cameras on my s10e exynos
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Well, i have pretty much the opposite experience with my camera. Made some tests VS my European Note 9, both with scene optimizer ON, and s10 photos are as sharp, but much better dynamic range and colors
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In my experience, in bright lights, S10 does capture more vibrant colors than Note9/S9, but when there is low light environment like bar or a room in night time, the sharpness goes haywire and colors look washed out. I can post a couple comparison pics.
Check out this Anandtech review from yesterday, they found the Snapdragon S10 camera images superior to Exynos. Even the DAC for audio 3.5mm jack is screwed up on Exynos. I may just get the stupid US locked Bootloader S10 until Samsung fixes these problems on Exynos.
Link to Anandtech review below, it is all accurate from my experience. The battery issue on Exynos is resolved however and now it meets or beats Snapdragon on battery front.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review/17
You speak right of my soul. The post processing is a disaster. Just take a normal picture from, idk, a landscape. When you then go into gallery to view the image, it needs like 2-3 seconds to "optimize" it. After this, the image seems to be good at first sight, but if you just slightly zoom into the photo, you can see how unbelievable blurred and unsharp it is. At least unbelievable for a ~1000€ smartphone. My OnePlus 6 made way better pictures. I'm very dissapointed.
Why samsung why?
Ok, Im terrified by my s10 camera. I have the SD S10 with sony IMX374 front camera and the Isocell back cameras, and the pictures are just stupid. My iphone 7 and Google pixel used to take better photos... Photos have less details, less sharpness and they look grainy and soft. The worst part: when I try to take a photo, they look nice before I shoot, in the preview, but then I check the gallery and there...ITS NOTHING LIKE WHAT I SAW IN THE PREVIEW... The photo becomes blurred and lose details.
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SONY_IMX374 Front Camera
SLSI_SAK2L4SX Rear Cameras
SD855 Version of S10, Unlocked
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How are the photos? Mine has the same camera sensors but the photos I get are terrible.
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Ok, Im terrified by my s10 camera. I have the SD S10 with sony IMX374 front camera and the Isocell back cameras, and the pictures are just stupid. My iphone 7 and Google pixel used to take better photos... Photos have less details, less sharpness and they look grainy and soft. The worst part: when I try to take a photo, they look nice before I shoot, in the preview, but then I check the gallery and there...ITS NOTHING LIKE WHAT I SAW IN THE PREVIEW... The photo becomes blurred and lose details.
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How are the photos? Mine has the same camera sensors but the photos I get are terrible.
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Excellent for me.
Examples
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_CMOS Look the notes
The Galaxy S10 family utilizes either one of two sensors: the Samsung S5K3J1 or the Sony IMX374. They are regarded as nearly identical sensors.
11: The Galaxy S10 family utilizes either one of two sensors: the Samsung S5K2L4 or the Sony SAK2L4. They are regarded as nearly identical sensors.
You are wrong.
S10 with exynos has Sony sensor SAK2L4. NOT isocell. Next time do proper research ?
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So, i have been doing some research for my youtube channel lately about the s10 cameras. I own the European S10 with exynos 9820 cipset and Isocell camera sensors. I know that Samsung used dual sourcing again with their phones, and some models out there use Sony sensors,, most probably snapdragon 855 variants. The question is, what sony sensors do they use? Is it the same imx 345 from the s9? My s10 uses the SLSI_SAK2L4 isocell main sensor, opposed to the SLSI_SAK2L3 sensor i had on my note 9. I am asking this because i get very good photos, even compared to the pixel 3 and mate 20 pro but i know many of you are unhappy with the s10 cameras. So, what sony sensor does your s10 have? (Use aida64 and go to devices to find out)
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S10 with exynos has Sony sensor SAK2L4. NOT isocell. Next time do proper research ?
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So in AIDA64 "SLSI_SAK2L4SX" and "SLSI_SAK2L4_FIMC_IS" are identical sensors from Sony?
Another topic, does your AIDA list the Sensor of the tele camera? Mine does not. (Most likely the "S5K3M3")
I don't know why samsung didn't use gn2 sensor on s21 ultra , but I think xiaomi's mi 11 ultra GN2 gonna crush the s21 ultra's hm3 sensor ..
What do you guys think?
If it is true, I dont think so.
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I don't know why samsung didn't use gn2 sensor on s21 ultra , but I think xiaomi's mi 11 ultra GN2 gonna crush the s21 ultra's hm3 sensor ..
What do you guys think?
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Xiaomi is essentially beta testers for Samsung's newest sensor tech. Xiaomi got the 108MP HMX and the 64MP GW1 sensor before any Samsung phones. It is a little annoying though since Samsung isn't planning on a Note 21 Ultra this year, so Xiaomi would have the better camera tech until at least the S22 Ultra presumably.
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Xiaomi is essentially beta testers for Samsung's newest sensor tech. Xiaomi got the 108MP HMX and the 64MP GW1 sensor before any Samsung phones. It is a little annoying though since Samsung isn't planning on a Note 21 Ultra this year, so Xiaomi would have the better camera tech until at least the S22 Ultra presumably.
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They are planning , but it's a bit delayed ,
Note lineup is something they can't skip even though they introduced spen in s series, but that's optional
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They are planning , but it's a bit delayed ,
Note lineup is something they can't skip even though they introduced spen in s series, but that's optional
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Normally yes, but they likely can due to chip shortages (or at least using it as an excuse to): https://wccftech.com/galaxy-note-21-series-skipped-chip-shortages/
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Normally yes, but they likely can due to chip shortages (or at least using it as an excuse to): https://wccftech.com/galaxy-note-21-series-skipped-chip-shortages/
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And if their focus is gonna be on s series only , then I think they can beat the sd888 with their exynos 2100 this time , because Exynos has that capabilities.
Sd888 was also built by samsung so their own chipset just lacks optimization I think .
My black 21Ultra will totally destroy that Mi 11 and crush it into tiny little pieces and then eat it for lunch #yeahman #f
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GoldPunch said:
If it is true, I dont think so.
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Fake comparison video, with fake pictures! What is wrong with you?
This one is real, by Han's Tech Talk
jericho246 said:
Fake comparison video, with fake pictures! What is wrong with you?
This one is real, by Han's Tech Talk
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What is wrong with you? Keep clam. I said If it is true. Although, they are pretty similar.
I think even GN1 in Vivo x50 pro plus can easily beat HM3 tbh.
Why can't Samsung just use GN series in their flagship and stop ridiculous 108mp gimmick.
Samsung know how to get the best out of its sensor, thats why you won't notice a big different between both phones.
I still wished, that samsung didn't not care for numbers and gave us the newest sensor...
As I said above, our phone is better in terms of photo. Although some of us don't believe it.
Not a fan of extremely narrow plane of focus.
Virgo_Guy said:
Not a fan of extremely narrow plane of focus.
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Its there in the s21 ultra's 108 mp as well.
It uses focus enhancer mode and switches to ultrawide lens zoomed to 1x to capture
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Its there in the s21 ultra's 108 mp as well.
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Have not been a fan of it since S20 Ultra.