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I have ordered an XT1058 for use by my wife on Straight Talk (ATT). She is currently using the service on a Samsung galaxy nexus (google play edition) . Occasionally when she is in a pinch she uses the wifi hotspot. I know this is not really permitted under straight talks terms but she keeps it very quick and only when necessary. It has not been a problem for the last two years. I am wondering she will be able to do the same thing on this new phone. Will the att rom allow for the hotspot or is this going to be an issue? Also while I'm at it, after looking things over I see some comments that the bootloader is unlockable and others saying that Motorola does not unlock the ATT phones other threads talk about some Chinese middleman that was doing it but it looks like the time has passed for that. Any info is appreciated.
Thanks
i have an unlocked xt1058, with ATT branding on the back and wifi tethering works for me right out of the box. phone not rooted or anything. i was pretty puzzled as to how, but im not complaining
NB- im not using it on AT&T ( i dont live in the US) .. so i dunno if its carrier related
I've been doing research for the past couple of days and I have seen that when the Nexus 6 came out that there were basically just 2 different models out. The International and the North American models. I'm coming from a Galaxy S4 from Verizon and I honestly can say that I just find TouchWiz ugly. I have rooted it but it was too late, the damage Verizon has done already left a huge enough impact that I am too afraid to put a rom on it in fear of the consequences. It was my first smartphone and I was happy with it when I first got it and now I am not to fond of it any longer. With the way Verizon's new plans are, I'm hoping of buying the Nexus 6 from them and slowly paying it off.
I apologize for long intro so i'll get to the point. I am curious about the differences of the Nexus 6 straight from Google and the Nexus 6 straight from the Verizon store if I buy it from them. I would prefer to buy straight from Verizon since I'm a college student and money is very tight and the slow payments seem to work out better in the long run even though I will be paying more if I buy it straight from Verizon. , but if getting the "clean" Nexus 6 is worth the better investment then i'll save up more money and pay for it all right then and there.
I've also read that there have been issues in the past where people have bought a Nexus 6 elsewhere and when they came to Verizon to activate it, that Verizon turned them away and that it wasn't possible. Is this still happening ?
Lastly, if any of you have a Nexus 6 straight from Verizon:
- How has it held up to this point ?
- What are the different things Verizon has done to the phone that weren't there in the past ?
and any other advice you can give to me to make a good purchase decision.
I just want a smartphone that I can root, put roms on, experiment with on XDA, has near-vanilla android but also works with Verizon.
I apologize for such a long post and this is my first ever thread on XDA and i'm new so I hope you may bear with me. I just want to make sure I am giving enough information to where some of you guys can help get my questions answered so I won't resent purchasing a Nexus 6 straight from Verizon if I do.
Thank you very much for reading and helping if you choose to.
P.S. I'm unsure whether to post this in the General Forum for the Nexus 6 or the Help and Troubleshooting forum of the Nexus 6 . I apologize if I posted this in the wrong forum.
Iandrew124 said:
I've been doing research for the past couple of days and I have seen that when the Nexus 6 came out that there were basically just 2 different models out. The International and the North American models. I'm coming from a Galaxy S4 from Verizon and I honestly can say that I just find TouchWiz ugly. I have rooted it but it was too late, the damage Verizon has done already left a huge enough impact that I am too afraid to put a rom on it in fear of the consequences. It was my first smartphone and I was happy with it when I first got it and now I am not to fond of it any longer. With the way Verizon's new plans are, I'm hoping of buying the Nexus 6 from them and slowly paying it off.
I apologize for long intro so i'll get to the point. I am curious about the differences of the Nexus 6 straight from Google and the Nexus 6 straight from the Verizon store if I buy it from them. I would prefer to buy straight from Verizon since I'm a college student and money is very tight and the slow payments seem to work out better in the long run even though I will be paying more if I buy it straight from Verizon. , but if getting the "clean" Nexus 6 is worth the better investment then i'll save up more money and pay for it all right then and there.
I've also read that there have been issues in the past where people have bought a Nexus 6 elsewhere and when they came to Verizon to activate it, that Verizon turned them away and that it wasn't possible. Is this still happening ?
Lastly, if any of you have a Nexus 6 straight from Verizon:
- How has it held up to this point ?
- What are the different things Verizon has done to the phone that weren't there in the past ?
and any other advice you can give to me to make a good purchase decision.
I just want a smartphone that I can root, put roms on, experiment with on XDA, has near-vanilla android but also works with Verizon.
I apologize for such a long post and this is my first ever thread on XDA and i'm new so I hope you may bear with me. I just want to make sure I am giving enough information to where some of you guys can help get my questions answered so I won't resent purchasing a Nexus 6 straight from Verizon if I do.
Thank you very much for reading and helping if you choose to.
P.S. I'm unsure whether to post this in the General Forum for the Nexus 6 or the Help and Troubleshooting forum of the Nexus 6 . I apologize if I posted this in the wrong forum.
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I have a N6 I bought in March from Verizon and I love it. Other than the small Verizon branding on the back, and two Verizon apps pre-installed (My Verizon Mobile and Verizon Visual Voicemail), I don't believe there is anything different between it and a Google bought Nexus.
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The preinstalled apps can likely be uninstalled as they were probably pulled in automatically based on your SIM card. From what I've read, the shipping firmware is the same as the Play Store/Motorola model.
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Othoric said:
I have a N6 I bought in March from Verizon and I love it. Other than the small Verizon branding on the back, and two Verizon apps pre-installed (My Verizon Mobile and Verizon Visual Voicemail), I don't believe there is anything different between it and a Google bought Nexus.
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That's great to hear honestly. If there is no difference other than two Verizon apps then this is officially my first choice for when I get a new device with Verizon. I'm hoping I am smart enough to root it, flash Pure Nexus and make it my own.
Thank you for the response.
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The preinstalled apps can likely be uninstalled as they were probably pulled in automatically based on your SIM card. From what I've read, the shipping firmware is the same as the Play Store/Motorola model.
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That's also great to hear. Definitely going to get the Nexus 6 soon then once I can get a new phone. Getting really tired of my Galaxy S4.
I just bought a new 32gb unlocked blue nexus 6 at best buy today for $350 + tax
It was the best deal I could find. I traded in some games and got the total down to $317. The phone is amazing, I came from a verizon S5 and it was well worth the purchase not to see that TouchWiz **** all over my phone
Thanks for starting this discussion. I have a GS5, and I'm fed up with the Verizon crap but it's the best network around where I live.
My question, can you root the N6 purchased from Verizon?
oneseeker said:
Thanks for starting this discussion. I have a GS5, and I'm fed up with the Verizon crap but it's the best network around where I live.
My question, can you root the N6 purchased from Verizon?
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Yup. One of the few on Verizon you can have your way with. Can get device from anywhere. They all the same. Get whichever the cheapest and best warranty.
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Thanks for starting this discussion. I have a GS5, and I'm fed up with the Verizon crap but it's the best network around where I live.
My question, can you root the N6 purchased from Verizon?
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Yep. 100% bootloader unlockable. I use wugs toolkit to unlock and flash custom recovery. Plus it's relockable if you need service.
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Yep. 100% bootloader unlockable. I use wugs toolkit to unlock and flash custom recovery. Plus it's relockable if you need service.
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What do you mean re-lockable if I need service?
Does anyone know if I can buy the Nexus 6 (unlocked) from Best Buy with the special they are having right now and use it on Verizon ? I was going to wait for 2 months to get an early upgrade by turning my phone in and getting the Nexus 6 but if I can buy it for 350 right now then I definitely want to jump on it. I am just curious if I can buy it from Best Buy and use it on Verizon without any issues. If I do buy it then what do I need to do in order to make it work with Verizon ?
I really want a phone I can root easily, flash roms and experiment with. The Nexus 6 seems like the perfect device and with it at $350 right now, its a steal !
Does anyone know if this is just a special and for how long ? Or is it indefinitely?
Iandrew124 said:
What do you mean re-lockable if I need service?
Does anyone know if I can buy the Nexus 6 (unlocked) from Best Buy with the special they are having right now and use it on Verizon ? I was going to wait for 2 months to get an early upgrade by turning my phone in and getting the Nexus 6 but if I can buy it for 350 right now then I definitely want to jump on it. I am just curious if I can buy it from Best Buy and use it on Verizon without any issues. If I do buy it then what do I need to do in order to make it work with Verizon ?
I really want a phone I can root easily, flash roms and experiment with. The Nexus 6 seems like the perfect device and with it at $350 right now, its a steal !
Does anyone know if this is just a special and for how long ? Or is it indefinitely?
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Service meaning repairs in case you have to send the phone in for some reason. It will work fine on Verizon. You can either activate it through Verizon and get a new SIM card or just switch an existing (already activated) nano SIM from an existing Verizon device into your new Nexus 6. Either method works fine.
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Service meaning repairs in case you have to send the phone in for some reason. It will work fine on Verizon. You can either activate it through Verizon and get a new SIM card or just switch an existing (already activated) nano SIM from an existing Verizon device into your new Nexus 6. Either method works fine.
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Oh ! Okay, I see. Thank you.
On the best buy website it says its doesnt support CDMA but thanks for telling me otherwise. It gives me hope that I can get a decent phone for cheap and love it.
Iandrew124 said:
What do you mean re-lockable if I need service?
Does anyone know if I can buy the Nexus 6 (unlocked) from Best Buy with the special they are having right now and use it on Verizon ? I was going to wait for 2 months to get an early upgrade by turning my phone in and getting the Nexus 6 but if I can buy it for 350 right now then I definitely want to jump on it. I am just curious if I can buy it from Best Buy and use it on Verizon without any issues. If I do buy it then what do I need to do in order to make it work with Verizon ?
I really want a phone I can root easily, flash roms and experiment with. The Nexus 6 seems like the perfect device and with it at $350 right now, its a steal !
Does anyone know if this is just a special and for how long ? Or is it indefinitely?
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$350-399 the going rate now. They on clearance for the new ones probably in November. Best Buy will match Internet price. So as long as Amazon and others have that price can just tell them and they will look it up on their PC. If you have a Verizon nano sim can just pop it in. They have the IEMIs now so they can activate for you. Shouldn't have a problem. I cut down my micro sim to fit before they would activate them.
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Forgot to address your first question. There are 2 unlocks. Carrier and bootloader. Previous poster was referring to bootloader unlock. They are all carrier unlocked except for ATT. ATT requires to pay for the device in full and be active on their service for 30 days before can use another sim. Bootloader unlock is for modding. We unlock the bootloader and if need to send for warranty we put back to stock and locked.
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Best Buy will match Internet price. So as long as Amazon and others have that price can just tell them and they will look it up on their PC. If you have a Verizon nano sim can just pop it in. They have the IEMIs now so they can activate for you. Shouldn't have a problem. I cut down my micro sim to fit before they would activate them.
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Forgot to address your first question. There are 2 unlocks. Carrier and bootloader. Previous poster was referring to bootloader unlock. They are all carrier unlocked except for ATT. ATT requires to pay for the device in full and be active on their service for 30 days before can use another sim. Bootloader unlock is for modding. We unlock the bootloader and if need to send for warranty we put back to stock and locked.
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This answers similar question I've had since I have Verizon as my carrier. I found some good deals on swappa, and wondered if I got one from there, if I'd be able use it on Verizon.
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Beej1970 said:
This answers similar question I've had since I have Verizon as my carrier. I found some good deals on swappa, and wondered if I got one from there, if I'd be able use it on Verizon.
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You can use any on any carrier unless it is the ATT carrier locked. Also has to be NA version. Not International. I got Google version on Verizon. Everything works including tether on my Unlimited Data Plan.
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You can use any on any carrier unless it is the ATT carrier locked. Also has to be NA version. Not International. I got Google version on Verizon. Everything works including tether on my Unlimited Data Plan.
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I'm sorry but what is "NA version"?
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Beej1970 said:
I'm sorry but what is "NA version"?
Sent from my SCH-I545 with stang5litre Edition 5.0 on stock OC1
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North American. US and Canada. I looked on Swappa. They need to adjust their prices as the Market price decreases. They too high if can get new in box with full warranty for $350.
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You can use any on any carrier unless it is the ATT carrier locked. Also has to be NA version. Not International. I got Google version on Verizon. Everything works including tether on my Unlimited Data Plan.
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Wait, so the International one's won't work with Verizon? The one Best Buy is selling on clearance is the GSM International model. So even though its an amazing deal, It won't work with Verizon because its the International model ?
Iandrew124 said:
Wait, so the International one's won't work with Verizon? The one Best Buy is selling on clearance is the GSM International model. So even though its an amazing deal, It won't work with Verizon because its the International model ?
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The US model is XT1103, which is what Best Buy should stock, and it will work on any US carrier. The XT1100 is the International model and would only work on AT&T/T-Mobile in the US (or any carrier that uses their network) as it doesn't have all the necessary bands for other carriers. Most places don't even carry the International model for sale in the US.
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The US model is XT1103, which is what Best Buy should stock, and it will work on any US carrier. The XT1100 is the International model and would only work on AT&T/T-Mobile in the US (or any carrier that uses their network) as it doesn't have all the necessary bands for other carriers. Most places don't even carry the International model for sale in the US.
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Okay, that helped clear up some questions I was having. Thank you. I guess its time to go buy that sweet Nexus 6 once I get my check. Ugh, i can't wait.
If you had to recommend a phone for a beginner who wants to root, put roms on his device and experiment with it, what would you recommend to them ?
I want to get a v40 to replace my Redmi Note 7
I use T-Mobile but know not to get the T-Mobile v40. So I was curious if it would be better for me to get a different one and unlock it or what should I do?
Any advice would be great because I don't want to put my self in a pickle where I have a nice paperweight
No need to get a TMo version.
A cross flashed Sprint V405UA to LG v405QA will work on TMo and get all TMo bands, plus TMo VoLTE and TMo VoWi-FI and TMo HD Voice. I know because that's the model I bought, cross flashed, and use on TMo.
I see no reason why a cross flashed Verizon or ATT wouldn't be equally good. But I can't speak there from personal experience.
But there's no cross-flashing possible on a TMo version. Once TMo, always TMo.
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NGOwner said:
No need to get a TMo version.
A cross flashed Sprint V405UA to LG v405QA will work on TMo and get all TMo bands, plus TMo VoLTE and TMo VoWi-FI and TMo HD Voice. I know because that's the model I bought, cross flashed, and use on TMo.
I see no reason why a cross flashed Verizon or ATT wouldn't be equally good. But I can't speak there from personal experience.
But there's no cross-flashing possible on a TMo version. Once TMo, always TMo.
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I saw you in some other posts and I was hoping to get you to respond to this. Thank you. I'll have to keep my eye out to see if I can find a sprint one. I like my redmi note 7, but there are many features that I want that it just simply doesn't have. But are there any other weird quirks I should know? Again, thank you.
Thanks for kind words. I seem to have a bit more time on my hands now ... I wonder why ....
The only weird quirks I think are worth mentioning is that it is not easy to root and install TWRP. Several have had issues doing so. It can be done, I and others are living proof, but it's not for the fainthearted. You'll have to bounce back and forth between several threads to get it right. There's no one comprehensive guide. If you're not looking to go that route, there really are no quirks.
As for sourcing one, I picked up mine, a mint condition device, off of eBay for $145. A steal for a phone of this caliber. They seemed to have upped the price in the meantime.
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Troubles with getting TWRP working don't bother me. I don't mind that. I love messing with things a little too much. Also, with that link that you sent, although the listing said you can't use third party software to unlock it, you still can. Correct? (Well the listing you sent said that it was sprint only, but not specifically unlocked. But it showed me a similar one that is $170 that says it's sprint locked)(also that because it technically isn't software that you're using to unlock the device.)
And I do wonder why you would have more free time on your hand, I could never tell why...
In many cases, these eBay vendors have no idea what they are selling or what "tethers" come with which phones. See here's the thing. If the device is paid off, it can't/shouldn't be carrier locked. You own it free and clear, and should be able to put it on any carrier with which the phone is compatible.
From reading these forums, I knew I could convert (cross-flash) a v405UA (Sprint) device over to a v405QA (US version) which would enable more bands (that I needed/wanted for my eventual migration to TMo). And if the device in that listing was somehow actually carrier locked to Sprint, I knew I could get Sprint to unlock it. I had Sprint, I knew I was going to use the v40 for a while on Sprint, so I could easily verify its carrier unlocked-ness, and could correct it if needed.
But I didn't need to. The v405ua (which was originally attached to Sprint at some time in the past by a different customer) came to me carrier unlocked. Three weeks later, I had that same device, crossflashed, rooted, with TWRP, on TMo happily making use of the extra TMo bands, VoLTE and VoWi-Fi, and HDVoice (none of which a non-crossflashed v405UA could).
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Ok, so if it isn't paid off then the seller is selling a bad phone, and they should list that in the description.
I'll buy the $170 mint condition v40 because it's a good price for the phone, and I'll have something to mess with. Thank you, again. I appreciate all the help.
It'll be nice to have a nicer phone again. I loved my S8 before I broke the screen, and after I had modded it.
NGOwner said:
In many cases, these eBay vendors have no idea what they are selling or what "tethers" come with which phones. See here's the thing. If the device is paid off, it can't/shouldn't be carrier locked. You own it free and clear, and should be able to put it on any carrier with which the phone is compatible.
From reading these forums, I knew I could convert (cross-flash) a v405UA (Sprint) device over to a v405QA (US version) which would enable more bands (that I needed/wanted for my eventual migration to TMo). And if the device in that listing was somehow actually carrier locked to Sprint, I knew I could get Sprint to unlock it. I had Sprint, I knew I was going to use the v40 for a while on Sprint, so I could easily verify its carrier unlocked-ness, and could correct it if needed.
But I didn't need to. The v405ua (which was originally attached to Sprint at some time in the past by a different customer) came to me carrier unlocked. Three weeks later, I had that same device, crossflashed, rooted, with TWRP, on TMo happily making use of the extra TMo bands, VoLTE and VoWi-Fi, and HDVoice (none of which a non-crossflashed v405UA could).
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I got my v40 yesterday and have been trying to mod it today. I have my t-mobile sim working in it but I can't get twrp working for the life of me.
Have any tips?
NoburtM said:
I got my v40 yesterday and have been trying to mod it today. I have my t-mobile sim working in it but I can't get twrp working for the life of me.
Have any tips?
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I have gotten twrp working along with being able to install linageos
Only issue is that it asks for a password and I don't know what to do from here. I need to sleep.... I've been at this for far too long
NoburtM said:
I have gotten twrp working along with being able to install linageos
Only issue is that it asks for a password and I don't know what to do from here. I need to sleep.... I've been at this for far too long
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Took me like 3 minutes of reading. After wiping data it is fixed. That was easy
I'm thinking about switching from T-Mobile to Verizon, but have zero experience with Verizon and would like to confirm that there won't be any problem using their network if the phone is rooted, modded, running a custom rom/kernal, etc. I can't get a straight answer from them.
Thanks
PhilipTD said:
I'm thinking about switching from T-Mobile to Verizon, but have zero experience with Verizon and would like to confirm that there won't be any problem using their network if the phone is rooted, modded, running a custom rom/kernal, etc. I can't get a straight answer from them.
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Should be fine but think they lock the bootloader I'm from UK so may be wrong lol
jaythenut said:
Should be fine but think they lock the bootloader I'm from UK so may be wrong lol
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Thanks for your reply. Yes, I've always heard it's impossible to unlock the bootloader on Verizon's own branded phones. I won't be buying from them, however, but directly from Google. Being able to unlock the bootloader is imperative for me. I have rooted and modded every one of the phones I've owned, starting in 2010 with my Nexus One
HTC GOOGLE NEXUS ONE PB99100
HBOOT: BLACKROSE 7.35.5017
ROM: CM10.1-20130403-VJ-6.0
KERNEL: 2.6.38.8-MSKU-KERNEL-JB
BASEBAND: 32.50.00.32U_5.1.2.00.08
RECOVERY: 4EXT-1.0.0.5 RC9
(that's how we made our signatures back then) and I'm not going to stop now. I can't even imagine using a phone that I can't root, mod, tweak, and run custom roms and kernels on.
Because I've been on T-Mobile since before it was even called T-Mobile (when there were only dumb phones), the only knowledge I have about Verizon is based on what I've read here over the years, mainly complaints that if you buy a phone from Verizon, it will be locked down, completely and forever, even once it's been paid off, and even if you buy it outright. Buying a Verizon-branded phone, therefore, is out of the question. But I do, unfortunately, need to switch to Verizon's network because T-Mobile's coverage is unacceptably spotty outside of urban areas. Yes, they are always building out their infrastructure and buying spectrum, and now they have acquired Sprint's, but I need reliable service, right now, in the suburbs of New York, where I visit my parents regularly now that they are getting on in years.
So, to make a long story short I am buying an unlocked Pixel 5 from Google and would like to make sure that it will work on Verizon's network once it's been rooted, modded, etc. If anyone recently has used an unlocked, rooted phone on Verizon, I'd greatly appreciate your advice.
Thanks
PhilipTD said:
So, to make a long story short I am buying an unlocked Pixel 5 from Google and would like to make sure that it will work on Verizon's network once it's been rooted, modded, etc. If anyone recently has used an unlocked, rooted phone on Verizon, I'd greatly appreciate your advice.
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There are a bunch of rooted phones on VZW network with the P4 line so I can't see why the P5 would be any different. Personally, I'd unlock it and leave it not rooted, then test it out. Then root it and test it. If any test fail then you still have a window to return it. And if it doesn't work (which I highly doubt) then it's a matter of priorities, coverage vs rooting. Dollars to doughnuts it will work rooted. G Pay might be another story but I presume you don't really care about that.
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Thanks for your reply. Yes, I've always heard it's impossible to unlock the bootloader on Verizon's own branded phones. I won't be buying from them, however, but directly from Google. Being able to unlock the bootloader is imperative for me. I have rooted and modded every one of the phones I've owned, starting in 2010 with my Nexus One
HTC GOOGLE NEXUS ONE PB99100
HBOOT: BLACKROSE 7.35.5017
ROM: CM10.1-20130403-VJ-6.0
KERNEL: 2.6.38.8-MSKU-KERNEL-JB
BASEBAND: 32.50.00.32U_5.1.2.00.08
RECOVERY: 4EXT-1.0.0.5 RC9
(that's how we made our signatures back then) and I'm not going to stop now. I can't even imagine using a phone that I can't root, mod, tweak, and run custom roms and kernels on.
Because I've been on T-Mobile since before it was even called T-Mobile (when there were only dumb phones), the only knowledge I have about Verizon is based on what I've read here over the years, mainly complaints that if you buy a phone from Verizon, it will be locked down, completely and forever, even once it's been paid off, and even if you buy it outright. Buying a Verizon-branded phone, therefore, is out of the question. But I do, unfortunately, need to switch to Verizon's network because T-Mobile's coverage is unacceptably spotty outside of urban areas. Yes, they are always building out their infrastructure and buying spectrum, and now they have acquired Sprint's, but I need reliable service, right now, in the suburbs of New York, where I visit my parents regularly now that they are getting on in years.
So, to make a long story short I am buying an unlocked Pixel 5 from Google and would like to make sure that it will work on Verizon's network once it's been rooted, modded, etc. If anyone recently has used an unlocked, rooted phone on Verizon, I'd greatly appreciate your advice.
Thanks
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Root will not make any difference at all only gpay maybe but like you I've rooted all my phone's on lots of networks in UK and all been fine so will be fine for you I'm sure
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There are a bunch of rooted phones on VZW network with the P4 line so I can't see why the P5 would be any different. Personally, I'd unlock it and leave it not rooted, then test it out. Then root it and test it. If any test fail then you still have a window to return it. And if it doesn't work (which I highly doubt) then it's a matter of priorities, coverage vs rooting. Dollars to doughnuts it will work rooted. G Pay might be another story but I presume you don't really care about that.
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Thanks for the encouraging info and the great idea of testing it out, which made me realize that I can get a prepaid sim from verizon and see if they can activate the Pixel 5 after I unlock and root it. Thanks
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Root will not make any difference at all only gpay maybe but like you I've rooted all my phone's on lots of networks in UK and all been fine so will be fine for you I'm sure
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Awesome, I really hope that's the case
I've just submitted an order to buy Pixel 5 from 'Visible' (a US carrier, Verizon based MVNO), and now i am kinda thinking... i should have asked about it here first. Visible's rep has promised (on chat) their phones are unlocked, so this shouldn't be an issue, but are they carrier-customized in any way or form? Anyone here got any experience? I am sure there is still some time window i can cancel this.
The reason i went on it is because of their "buy it, and get a free wireless charger at activation and a $200 gift card after 2 month of service" (Google it for more details), with a rather attractive plan (in US terms).
It's hard to know for sure. Some of the MVNO's have customized firmware on their phones and some don't. From what I've seen their phones are supposed to be unlocked. The only negative I've seen on them is than any streaming you do is only 480P.
Tel864 said:
It's hard to know for sure. Some of the MVNO's have customized firmware on their phones and some don't. From what I've seen their phones are supposed to be unlocked. The only negative I've seen on them is than any streaming you do is only 480P.
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I don't care all that much about streaming, also, if i really, REALLY want to stream something in high res, i can probably VPN from the phone into my home network (or into a commercial VPN server). Anyway, my current check list when the phone arrives is currently - check for SIM lock on both physical SIM and eSIM, check if OEM unlock available and not grayed out (unrelated to SIM locking, but there are some rare reports on this), check if the "gap" isn't too bad, test the proximity sensor, check if there is any carrier bloatware on it. Did i miss any important points/popular issues?
Sounds like a good deal.
Visible is NOT technically an MVNO. It is completely owned and operated by Verizon. I've heard good things from people that use it.
I would guess the phone you receive would be the Verizon variant, but that's completely a guess.
jsbeagle said:
Visible is NOT technically an MVNO. It is completely owned and operated by Verizon. I've heard good things from people that use it.
I would guess the phone you receive would be the Verizon variant, but that's completely a guess.
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I hope not, and the order confirmation does explicitly mentions "GA01316-US", which is an unlocked, non-Verizon model.
Is Visible an MVNO? I suppose, despite being owned by Verizon, its still a separate company, which doesn't operate its own mobile towers, so i guess it technically is an MVNO after all.
Anyway, will post here after i receive the device. Would be kinda disappointing if its a Verizon model (i may want to root at some point, not exactly a nice thing to have a bootloader you can't unlock). Would be a showstopper if its SIM-locked or even just eSIM locked, i am going to verify that by putting my old Cricket SIM in before activating theirs, and also loading a Ubigi profile onto an eSIM, and if its locked, and they can't unlock it for me, the device is going back. I've EXPLICITLY asked a rep about this after all.
BTW, judging by a Google search that produces mostly Reddit results, Visible sells mostly unlocked devices (seemingly all of them except Visible-exclusives).
It should not be a Verizon varient, it should be unlocked.
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It should not be a Verizon varient, it should be unlocked.
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I've already got it, see above. Its not a Verizon variant indeed, and it is unlocked.^H^H^H^H....
I was sure i've posted it here, i've got a device, its a unlocked variant, not Verizon, its fully unlocked (tested on physical SIM and eSIM), and got no carrier bloatware on it.
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I've already got it, see above. Its not a Verizon variant indeed, and it is unlocked.^H^H^H^H....
I was sure i've posted it here, i've got a device, its a unlocked variant, not Verizon, its fully unlocked (tested on physical SIM and eSIM), and got no carrier bloatware on it.
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I'm shortly switching to Verizon and I'm taking a look at Visible and Verizon prepaid after seeing your post and talking to my son who's a Verizon engineer, I haven't decided on which though.
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I've just submitted an order to buy Pixel 5 from 'Visible' (a US carrier, Verizon based MVNO), and now i am kinda thinking... i should have asked about it here first. Visible's rep has promised (on chat) their phones are unlocked, so this shouldn't be an issue, but are they carrier-customized in any way or form? Anyone here got any experience? I am sure there is still some time window i can cancel this.
The reason i went on it is because of their "buy it, and get a free wireless charger at activation and a $200 gift card after 2 month of service" (Google it for more details), with a rather attractive plan (in US terms).
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Actually just registered an account to answer your question. Got a pixel 5 from the "Visible" deal by porting a number in. The model number is identical to the the unlocked one sold from Google store. It bootloader unlockable, so already unlocked and put in magisk and stuff. (It is carrier unlocked as well) Enjoy the deal!
Mint says they only stream 480p too but I can simply select 720p on up on my Pixel 2 and I get a bump, no VPN required.
Visible has good offers but the service is no good. At least in my area. I cannot wait to go back to AT&T. Verizon has fast coverage but AT&T is more consistent. I tried it for the $100 promotional credit but I will be going back to my original provider.