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[Q] How to get this camera to make good pictures

Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days now. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.

Angelusz said:
Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days one. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
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What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.

z_harris said:
What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
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Thank you for your reply. I'm currently on the newest firmware. I'm running RomAur v3.2. I had the same problem on a different modified stock ROM of the latest firmware build.

I only know for good light condition, you set the ISO to as low as possible and 20mp manual and need a pair of steady hands. I still havent figure out low light condition, some ppl suggest twilight mode.

1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^

Caffeineshock said:
1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
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Yea iso to a lower value
Here is a picture with iso over 100
And one at 50 (if picture can't be attached then I'll post it next - having issue with xda app)
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Meh I'm not happy with xda app
Here is pic with 100 iso
U may need to adjust ev accordingly
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Colorful !
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This is with bad lighting (Sun was shining at the cam), a view from my window. Is this the quality I should expect from this phonecam?
Inside, it's never sharp. There simply seems to be too little light to make sharp pictures. The flash does nearly nothing. The low ISO setting makes it lag very much as well, reducing the screen fps to 3 or something like that. I guess it's difficult for the device to keep up.
http://aciai.me/i/uk0v.jpg

Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!

wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?

im not satisfied at all with z1 camera , am i missing something ??

Angelusz said:
I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)

Angelusz said:
Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can

wezzel98765 said:
I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
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Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
guybrush2099 said:
there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
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Okay, thanks for the tips.

wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Mmm, can you explain me better auto mode? Do you selected a scene? Do you select single focus point or multi point?
Metering? (Can you explain this)
HDR or image stabilizer?
Do you use the hardware button to take pictures or the software one? I noticed that using the hw one after you press focus and then more to shoot produce a little movement that can make your photo bad. Am I the only one that find the camera button too hard?
Thanks a lot!!!!
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Angelusz said:
Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
Okay, thanks for the tips.
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Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...

ganex said:
Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
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My advice: Contact the seller and have it exchanged. I think it's a hardware problem.

yes..nexus can't take better pictures than xz1..there's a problem
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what do you think?
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-21310660/DSC_0030.jpg.html
(sorry for the wrong rotation)
settings: manual, iso 200, light +0,7, 5284x3963.
what is wrong? what focus do you use?

P10 Plus Camera Thread

As there seems to not be a camera thread yet, here's one to get us started. I have had my P10 Plus in the UK from its release through carphone warehouse.
I had the p8, P9, p10 and this definitely is the model to get if you are interested in its camera capability.
I took this pic last night through my kitchen window (was very windy outside) propped up against the window pane using the light trails option. Not the best example but I am impressed by its potential for use in night photography.
Great camera phone both day and night.

And now compare it in .raw format with at least the P9, and when others with a Mate 9 join let's compare against those as well. The hardware isn't that much different from Mate 9, for a much higher price. So saying that this is the model to get would be a bit wrong IMHO.

I look to be getting one of these pretty soon if TWRP and ROOT is already available... So i'll reserve this spot and later edit with my pictures.

Swan Princess said:
And now compare it in .raw format with at least the P9, and when others with a Mate 9 join let's compare against hose as well. The hardware isn't that much different from Mate 9, for a much higher price. So saying that this is the model to get would be a bit wrong IMHO.
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I disagree... I was talking about the camera specifically. I had the mate 9 and I do rather prefer the p10 plus for sure. There's a distinct difference in quality especially in low light.
So on that note my comment still stands...in your eyes wrong but not in mine.

A couple of day shots from beamish museum at the weekend.

Just a random shot to see if it can handle the sky
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Here's a couple of shots in auto, both black and white then colour. Both focus and exposure smack in the middle of the light.

Again all untouched straight out of camera. Light was really bright and harsh today, plus handled it pretty well. Lots of detail to be had.

Scann69 said:
Just a random shot to see if it can handle the sky
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Nice Cu/Cb clouds! I'd like the .raw for it, if you have one. Storms are <3

Here's a couple I took last weekend. Not difficult lighting or anything but just nice sharp images.
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Swan Princess said:
Nice Cu/Cb clouds! I'd like the .raw for it, if you have one. Storms are <3
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Thanks but i don't have the .raw file as i did not enable it on my device.
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Scann69 said:
Thanks but i don't have the .raw file as i did not enable it on my device.
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What a shame! Whenever and wherever, please always try to shoot in raw. Such a great feature of the cameras shouldn't go wasted!

Swan Princess said:
What a shame! Whenever and wherever, please always try to shoot in raw. Such a great feature of the cameras shouldn't go wasted!
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Most people won't shoot in raw. However, I do agree raw is generally the way to go and the P10 series captures a lot of data with raw. This is a shot from my Mate 9 original taken in raw.
Frosty morning on Dartmoor #huaweimate9 by Gavin Fabiani-Laymond, on Flickr

stargate1000 said:
I disagree... I was talking about the camera specifically. I had the mate 9 and I do rather prefer the p10 plus for sure. There's a distinct difference in quality especially in low light.
So on that note my comment still stands...in your eyes wrong but not in mine.
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Hi what differences have "your eyes" observed? i curious cause i have a mate 9 and am about ready to pull the trigger on a p10 plus.

shanec2k3 said:
Hi what differences have "your eyes" observed? i curious cause i have a mate 9 and am about ready to pull the trigger on a p10 plus.
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The P10 plus definitely has cleaner, brighter and more detailed low light shots compared to the mate 9 (not saying the mate 9 is bad at all by the way).

Here are just a few of mine, I adore the camera on this phone.

gavinfabl said:
Most people won't shoot in raw. However, I do agree raw is generally the way to go and the P10 series captures a lot of data with raw. This is a shot from my Mate 9 original taken in raw.
Frosty morning on Dartmoor #huaweimate9 by Gavin Fabiani-Laymond, on Flickr
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That looks amazing!

how do i enable raw mode?..i dont see any option under camera...

doki81 said:
how do i enable raw mode?..i dont see any option under camera...
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When your in auto mode simply swipe up from the bottom of the screen - you will see a little solid line to pull up.

stargate1000 said:
When your in auto mode simply swipe up from the bottom of the screen - you will see a little solid line to pull up.
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ok..found this option...only accessible when in pro mode then swipe the right edge for option.. thx!

Better to take photos in 40 or 10mpx?

Sorry if someone already explained but I've not found an answer.
I would like to understand when is better to take pictures with 40mpx sensor and when is better with 10 mpx option.
Sorry but this huawei is new for me and I would like to understand how to make the best photos
Thank you for help

if the situation permits, then 40mp. the worse the conditions, the more compromises.

As far as I can tell 40mp is useful in Pro mode and i have posted the difference it makes on my insta. HDR and night mode revert to 10mp. You can have a look if you search my feed tag justaninstaguy there is a a few pics. I can't upload on the XDA app it keeps coming up with bad request.

you can post your Photos on Flickr with hashtag #huaweip20pro > https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/huaweip20pro

starbase64 said:
if the situation permits, then 40mp. the worse the conditions, the more compromises.
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Which are the conditions for the 40 mpx?

Socialnotworking said:
As far as I can tell 40mp is useful in Pro mode and i have posted the difference it makes on my insta. HDR and night mode revert to 10mp. You can have a look if you search my feed tag justaninstaguy there is a a few pics. I can't upload on the XDA app it keeps coming up with bad request.
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Thank you for your answer.
At the moment the photo I've taken are better in 10mpx. Anyway I can't see much difference with the s9 plus, to be honest many pics are better in s9 plus

marko68 said:
Thank you for your answer.
At the moment the photo I've taken are better in 10mpx. Anyway I can't see much difference with the s9 plus, to be honest many pics are better in s9 plus
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Quite possibly, I think the hardware in the P20 Pro is right up there but they just don't have the development refinement of Samsung or perhaps Google as yet. It was the same on the Mate 10 Pro, on paper it was perfect but niggles made it frustrating. That's the attraction with Apple, it may not be good value or offer but 99% of users can experience 99% of the capability of the phone whereas with the P20 Pro and Mate 10 Pro you really have to try hard to get the best out of it right now.

marko68 said:
Which are the conditions for the 40 mpx?
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a sunny day or tripod in low light

Socialnotworking said:
Quite possibly, I think the hardware in the P20 Pro is right up there but they just don't have the development refinement of Samsung or perhaps Google as yet. It was the same on the Mate 10 Pro, on paper it was perfect but niggles made it frustrating. That's the attraction with Apple, it may not be good value or offer but 99% of users can experience 99% of the capability of the phone whereas with the P20 Pro and Mate 10 Pro you really have to try hard to get the best out of it right now.
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I agree

after hundreds of shots...I prefer 10mpx. Details, sharpness , lights, everything is better
40mpx sensor is useful only for particular situations and to take compensated photos (night mode, ecc but this automatically happens)

40mp by far in daylight. In low light 10mp.
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This is a good explanation I found on another site "Now, you don't actually want to take 40MP pictures. Tap that image size in the settings menu and you won't get access to the other lenses. Instead, you want to leave it on the 10MP setting. This doesn't retire the 40MP lens. Here, it will oversample the picture and make it the best it can be when it's squeezed down to the lower, 10MP resolution. It also lends a hand when zooming beyond 3x. The 8MP camera takes great detailed images at that range, but bump it up to 5x and hybrid zoom will mix in the feed from the 40MP sensor to help improve overall clarity."

At least at daylight, taking 40MP and resized to 10MP, the result is much better than taking 10MP directly.
The main problem of 10MP is it's over-sharpen, 40MP resized to 10MP reduced the problem although still some.

marko68 said:
Sorry if someone already explained but I've not found an answer.
I would like to understand when is better to take pictures with 40mpx sensor and when is better with 10 mpx option.
Sorry but this huawei is new for me and I would like to understand how to make the best photos
Thank you for help
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If you need to change zoom then 10 is the way as you can't with 40..
If you're stationary and perhaps taking a wide angle image like a landscape or a city or sky or a large group of people, something you need detail for them 40 is the way.

Entire video made with Note 9 camera

Hi everyone.
I have spent last 4 weeks to make short video using Note 9 exclusively. The idea was to check how far I can get using mobile phone camera only and get result which would be satisfying for YT or even further. Note 9 seemed to me the best for the purpose. To do so, I sent my Note 9 120 meters to the sky attached to the drone, drowned it in a pond and finally travelled around Yorkshire in UK to get some footage. As a result I just published today video on YT and my main interest is to find out if people can really say difference. I have used Davinci Resolve in post production. Colours are changed slightly to make it look “film like”.
I didn't want to make just moving pictures so there is a story. Don't judge me too harsh however.. I am not an actor.
During the process of filming I have learnt a lot about note 9 camera and I believe I could make much better quality video now. It made me sure that it is possible to make quite serious production
with modern mobile phone if one wish to.
I hope everyone enjoy it.
Link didn't work so HERE is proper link

It's good. Well done you!

raul6 said:
It's good. Well done you!
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thanks

Was hoping to see some footage of Halifax.
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Limeybastard said:
Was hoping to see some footage of Halifax.
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to be honest I was thinking of Halifax a lot but unfortunately didn't manage to go there I thought about view from A58 road just when it enters to the town

Great video man!! Someone should contact Samsung they need to see this, possibly add you in their commercial. I have also noted amazing video quality, pic quality still feels to soft tho but its ok
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flak0 said:
Great video man!! Someone should contact Samsung they need to see this, possibly add you in their commercial. I have also noted amazing video quality, pic quality still feels to soft tho but its ok
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Thanks man I really appreciate your words. Comments like this is like getting the best possible award )) Thanks

Nice effort..lol
You really put it under water?
Hope it gets plenty of views on YT..

dgcruzing said:
Nice effort..lol
You really put it under water?
Hope it gets plenty of views on YT..
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well... I did. The water wasn't my biggest concern though... My biggest concern was when Note was attached to the drone 120 meters above me... This phone is huge... and made a huge resistance in the air... and because delicate suspension I had to construct and use to eliminate vibrations I was in constant fear it will detach from the drone and .... well ... I don't want even consider what would happen...
I am not very big on YT, so do not expect plenty of views but really appreciate your comment. Thanks

I've done a few videos with the Note 9 so far and have found it to be exceptional.
See here: https://youtu.be/k-15LfCyyNg Including use of all slow motion modes as well. (Gets real dramatic around 4 minutes)
My BIGGEST complaint is the algorithm used for choosing either the telephoto lens or if there's not enough light it uses the wide lens with a sensor crop/digital zoom. In great daylight the telephoto looks just as crisp as the wide, but even the slightest bit of darkness, even pointing it directly at a sunset (seen here: https://youtu.be/jmApdV_P6Hk) and it flips over to the wide with a crop ruining the consistency. As most have noted, this same crap happens in "pro" mode as well.
I really wish in at least pro mode, Samsung would let the creator choose. I can mitigate sensor noise, I can't really mitigate lack of resolution.
Very well done on the film above! I'm impressed. Did you use Filmic Pro or the stock camera app and get the anamorphic crop in post?

Vexamus said:
I've done a few videos with the Note 9 so far and have found it to be exceptional.
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Very nice videos of yours.
My idea was to make video with camera settings as they are. So I used original camera app at fully automatic. The only changes I have made were in post production
and I used Davinci Resolve 15 for both - adjusting colours and anamorphic crop.
I agree with you that "pro" mode should be fully pro I have not noticed the problem you described though. I need to check it.
My conclusion is that actually whatever we will say about mobile phone's cameras they are so good nowadays that with a bit of effort everyone can make videos like mine or yours ..

Google camera on Red Magic 3?

Is it possible to got the Google camera software on the Red Magic 3 WITHOUT ROOT?
I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I want to be able to take great photos.

Bandit1999X said:
Is it possible to got the Google camera software on the Red Magic 3 WITHOUT ROOT?
I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I want to be able to take great photos.
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You never need root for Google Cam. You only need someone to make it work with the device.
So far, no luck.
But, the camera is already great. It has the same sensor as Oneplus 7 pro and that phone is one of the highest on the dxomark list:
https://www.dxomark.com/category/smartphone-reviews/
I compared the camera to Galaxy S9, and it seems to take better photos than GS9.
But yeah, Google Cam would make it even better.

Yes. U can use gcam for Nubia red magic 3. But 3 features not working
Potrait
Night sight
Slow motion

sandeepkhatri said:
Yes. U can use gcam for Nubia red magic 3. But 3 features not working
Potrait
Night sight
Slow motion
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Which apk?

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I didn't have watsapp. Why don't you point it out from this website?
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/

I am using the xiaomi mi9 port that is in the google camera thread in XDA. It works well.
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mumboender said:
I am using the xiaomi mi9 port that is in the google camera thread in XDA. It works well.
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Do you happen to have the apk exact name? Also, are you using a config file?
EDIT: I tried both apks in the MI9 thread with two suggested config files.
I only shot in a dimly lit indoors scene, and the results were horrible (both 48 and 12 mpx.) Difficulties to focus. Noise was so bad, I've never seen anything like that before.
By comparison, the stock camera was like night and day, so much better.

I am using the following apk... GCam-6.2.030_Arnova8G2_Urnyx05-v1.8.apk
I also get better results with the stock camera, but I was assisting in the thread. Also if you look at the OnePlus 7 pro they have some exposure settings that do assist with the dark results.
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mumboender said:
I am using the following apk... GCam-6.2.030_Arnova8G2_Urnyx05-v1.8.apk
I also get better results with the stock camera, but I was assisting in the thread. Also if you look at the OnePlus 7 pro they have some exposure settings that do assist with the dark results.
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No fault of your own, thanks for the extra info.
What do you mean "they have some exposure settings" though? Some kind of a config file?
Also, it seems like unless someone buys the phone and sends it to Arnova, the Google Cam may not really come to fruition for this phone.
At the same time, I'm well satisfied with the stock camera app. It just doesn't have the same processing power as the Google Cam at preserving detail.